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Also, in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Epic_Meal_Time&action=historysubmit&diff=424938383&oldid=424937888 this edit], you said ""hip hop slang" is debatable and WP:OR without a source". I've re-added "hip-hop slang" and fixed the ref. It seems that either myself or someone else accidentally added information about the camera used before the ref, which confused things a bit. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 07:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
Also, in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Epic_Meal_Time&action=historysubmit&diff=424938383&oldid=424937888 this edit], you said ""hip hop slang" is debatable and WP:OR without a source". I've re-added "hip-hop slang" and fixed the ref. It seems that either myself or someone else accidentally added information about the camera used before the ref, which confused things a bit. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 07:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:"Hip Hop Slang" was sourced, I removed it by error - the source was indeed there, it was just placed in the wrong spot. Whoops. ;) |
:"Hip Hop Slang" was sourced, I removed it by error - the source was indeed there, it was just placed in the wrong spot. Whoops. ;) |
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:With regards to the addition of what merchandise they've started selling - how is that ''not'' original research? It's not really even encyclopedic, and considering most websites sell something, not really notable for an encyclopedia either. There are no reliable sources reporting what specific shirts and slogans/logos they're selling - it references the website which is subject to change. While the cookbook and the iphone app are attributable to a [[WP:RS]], the post about the t-shirts is not, therefore it's [[WP:OR]] until referenced with a reliable source. It's the same as posting about the contest section on the site (post your own Epic meal and win a shirt) or commenting on what Harley's facial hair is like, and using their website as a reference. Interesting, but ultimately not encyclopedic. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
:With regards to the addition of what merchandise they've started selling - how is that ''not'' original research? It's not really even encyclopedic, and considering most websites sell something, not really notable for an encyclopedia either. There are no reliable sources reporting what specific shirts and slogans/logos they're selling - it references the website which is subject to change. While the cookbook and the iphone app are attributable to a [[WP:RS]], the post about the t-shirts is not, therefore it's [[WP:OR]] until referenced with a reliable source. It's the same as posting about the contest section on the site (post your own Epic meal and win a shirt) or commenting on what Harley's facial hair is like, and using their website as a reference. Interesting, but ultimately not encyclopedic. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 15:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::I think that it is important to include information regarding the t-shirts. From what I've gathered, you're not against the entire merchandising section, and clearly their store is an important aspect of merchandising. Considering their store seems to sell ''only'' t-shirts, it strikes me as deserving of at least a passing mention. I'm not sure why you think it's original research to say the store sells t-shirts, though, or to mention some of the slogans. The information is definitely verifiable, falling under the acceptable uses of [[WP:SELFPUB]]. There is no synthesis here, and no doubts have been raised over whether or not the store is actually selling those t-shirts. I don't view it as being unencyclopedic and, as I explained above, I think it's notable enough for inclusion. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 16:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
::I think that it is important to include information regarding the t-shirts. From what I've gathered, you're not against the entire merchandising section, and clearly their store is an important aspect of merchandising. Considering their store seems to sell ''only'' t-shirts, it strikes me as deserving of at least a passing mention. I'm not sure why you think it's original research to say the store sells t-shirts, though, or to mention some of the slogans. The information is definitely verifiable, falling under the acceptable uses of [[WP:SELFPUB]]. There is no synthesis here, and no doubts have been raised over whether or not the store is actually selling those t-shirts. I don't view it as being unencyclopedic and, as I explained above, I think it's notable enough for inclusion. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 16:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I disagree, merely being true, or even verifiable (self published or not), does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I realize that this article will have it's fair share of editors who are fans of Epic Meal Time and will add alot of indiscriminate, but ultimately unencyclopedic information to it. That's fine as it's bound to happen - the [[Trailer Park Boys]] article suffered the same fate when that show was popular. This is just one instance where that has happened here - I haven't gone through the article history to see what other nonsense was added. |
:::I disagree, merely being true, or even verifiable (self published or not), does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I realize that this article will have it's fair share of editors who are fans of Epic Meal Time and will add alot of indiscriminate, but ultimately unencyclopedic information to it. That's fine as it's bound to happen - the [[Trailer Park Boys]] article suffered the same fate when that show was popular. This is just one instance where that has happened here - I haven't gone through the article history to see what other nonsense was added. |
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:::Ultimately a popular show, whether it's TV or internet based, selling t-shirts is hardly worthy of a mention in an encyclopedia. ''[[The Big Bang Theory]]'' has shirts for sale on it's website - should we mention that in the article for that show too and link to the CBS website? Perhaps {{or}} was the wrong tag - the section should probably have an <nowiki>{{Unencyclopedic}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{fancruft}}</nowiki> tag instead. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
:::Ultimately a popular show, whether it's TV or internet based, selling t-shirts is hardly worthy of a mention in an encyclopedia. ''[[The Big Bang Theory]]'' has shirts for sale on it's website - should we mention that in the article for that show too and link to the CBS website? Perhaps {{or}} was the wrong tag - the section should probably have an <nowiki>{{Unencyclopedic}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{fancruft}}</nowiki> tag instead. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 18:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::I guess I'm a bit confused as to why you've accepted the iPhone app and the cookbook for inclusion, but not the t-shirts. Have you looked at the ref for the iPhone app/cookbook? It mentions the t-shirts there as well. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 18:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
::::I guess I'm a bit confused as to why you've accepted the iPhone app and the cookbook for inclusion, but not the t-shirts. Have you looked at the ref for the iPhone app/cookbook? It mentions the t-shirts there as well. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 18:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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''In interviews Mortenstein and Toth have discussed the creation of a [[cookbook]], and an [[iPhone app]] to go along with their other merchandising efforts that include branded T-Shirts.<ref name=Eater>{{cite web|last=Forbes|first=Paula|title=Epic Meal Time: A Bunch of Dudes, Just Making it Happen|url=http://eater.com/archives/2011/01/20/epic-meal-time-a-bunch-of-dudes-just-making-it-happen.php|work=Eater National|accessdate=17 February 2011}}</ref>'' |
''In interviews Mortenstein and Toth have discussed the creation of a [[cookbook]], and an [[iPhone app]] to go along with their other merchandising efforts that include branded T-Shirts.<ref name=Eater>{{cite web|last=Forbes|first=Paula|title=Epic Meal Time: A Bunch of Dudes, Just Making it Happen|url=http://eater.com/archives/2011/01/20/epic-meal-time-a-bunch-of-dudes-just-making-it-happen.php|work=Eater National|accessdate=17 February 2011}}</ref>'' |
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--<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
--<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 18:45, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:''Epic Meal Time currently sells a line of branded [[t-shirts]]. In interviews, Mortenstein and Toth have also discussed the creation of a [[cookbook]] and an [[iPhone app]].'' |
:''Epic Meal Time currently sells a line of branded [[t-shirts]]. In interviews, Mortenstein and Toth have also discussed the creation of a [[cookbook]] and an [[iPhone app]].'' |
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:I feel like it flows a little better, and is more clear that the t-shirts are currently being sold, while the app and cookbook are still in the works. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 18:59, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
:I feel like it flows a little better, and is more clear that the t-shirts are currently being sold, while the app and cookbook are still in the works. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 18:59, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::I'd be fine with that. I think the removal of the slogans helps and will prevent the paragraph from growing everytime the group releases a new shirt (ie: Sauce Boss), and being rewritten every time they sell out etc. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
::I'd be fine with that. I think the removal of the slogans helps and will prevent the paragraph from growing everytime the group releases a new shirt (ie: Sauce Boss), and being rewritten every time they sell out etc. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 19:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Great, I've replaced it. Thanks for working with me on this. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 19:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
:::Great, I've replaced it. Thanks for working with me on this. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 19:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== "Likens" vs. "describes" == |
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I know this is ''incredibly'' nitpicky, but wouldn't MadSammyboy's [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Epic_Meal_Time&action=historysubmit&diff=426448285&oldid=426447821 edit] changing "Morenstein likens his show as "''[[Jackass (TV series)|Jackass]]'' in the kitchen"" to "Morenstein describes his show as "''[[Jackass (TV series)|Jackass]]'' in the kitchen"" be better? "Likens as" sounds odd to me. Usually I only hear "liken to", but "Morenstein likens his show to "''[[Jackass (TV series)|Jackass]]'' in the kitchen"" sounds bizarre as well. I'm just checking to avoid any edit wars, etc. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 23:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC) |
I know this is ''incredibly'' nitpicky, but wouldn't MadSammyboy's [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Epic_Meal_Time&action=historysubmit&diff=426448285&oldid=426447821 edit] changing "Morenstein likens his show as "''[[Jackass (TV series)|Jackass]]'' in the kitchen"" to "Morenstein describes his show as "''[[Jackass (TV series)|Jackass]]'' in the kitchen"" be better? "Likens as" sounds odd to me. Usually I only hear "liken to", but "Morenstein likens his show to "''[[Jackass (TV series)|Jackass]]'' in the kitchen"" sounds bizarre as well. I'm just checking to avoid any edit wars, etc. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 23:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:Yes, it's incredibly nitpicky. By definition likens means "''to see or represent as the same or similar; compare''", that's exactly what the reliable source does[http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/gone+wild+with+food/4130755/story.html] It didn't "describe" them as Jackass in the kitchen, it says ''it is, Morenstein admits, Jackass in the Kitchen, right down to the logo: a skull with a pot on its head, and two kitchen knives forming the crossbones.'' Therefore - "to see or represent as the same" or "likens" Likens them to or likens them as would probably require weigh in by someone with a bit more formal copyediting training. The article for [[Maxis]] uses "likens them as" in the lead. |
:Yes, it's incredibly nitpicky. By definition likens means "''to see or represent as the same or similar; compare''", that's exactly what the reliable source does[http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/gone+wild+with+food/4130755/story.html] It didn't "describe" them as Jackass in the kitchen, it says ''it is, Morenstein admits, Jackass in the Kitchen, right down to the logo: a skull with a pot on its head, and two kitchen knives forming the crossbones.'' Therefore - "to see or represent as the same" or "likens" Likens them to or likens them as would probably require weigh in by someone with a bit more formal copyediting training. The article for [[Maxis]] uses "likens them as" in the lead. |
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:BTW - Am I going to have to defend every edit I make to this article to you on the talk page? If so, let me know, and I'll start a thread for each one to get your approval first so I don't waste more time making the edits in the first place. This is becoming tedious, and considering the triviality of the content that is being discussed and challenged on here (and some of the major and well sourced information that was missing from the article previously while such non-notable topics were being discussed), I suspect that both of our time could probably be spent on more important issues than T-shirt sales and one word edits. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
:BTW - Am I going to have to defend every edit I make to this article to you on the talk page? If so, let me know, and I'll start a thread for each one to get your approval first so I don't waste more time making the edits in the first place. This is becoming tedious, and considering the triviality of the content that is being discussed and challenged on here (and some of the major and well sourced information that was missing from the article previously while such non-notable topics were being discussed), I suspect that both of our time could probably be spent on more important issues than T-shirt sales and one word edits. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 12:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::In order to avoid a further 10 or 15 post discussion, I've changed the copy to reflect the the exact text from the Montreal Gazette.--<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
::In order to avoid a further 10 or 15 post discussion, I've changed the copy to reflect the the exact text from the Montreal Gazette.--<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 13:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::The new wording seems fine to me. I'm not sure if the question here is whether or not you'll have to defend your edits to me, or if others will have to defend theirs to you. I don't understand why you reverted the edit by MadSammyboy when, in my opinion, it made the article flow better. I know this was a nitpicky point to bring up, and I apologize if you feel it's a waste of your time. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 13:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC) |
:::The new wording seems fine to me. I'm not sure if the question here is whether or not you'll have to defend your edits to me, or if others will have to defend theirs to you. I don't understand why you reverted the edit by MadSammyboy when, in my opinion, it made the article flow better. I know this was a nitpicky point to bring up, and I apologize if you feel it's a waste of your time. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 13:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::::I think the explanation above as to the definition of the word "likens" explains the rationale behind the revert quite well. Not every non-vandalism edit is an improvement. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
::::I think the explanation above as to the definition of the word "likens" explains the rationale behind the revert quite well. Not every non-vandalism edit is an improvement. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Wow- I didn't mean to stir anything up here. I was just reading the article and thought the wording 'likens as' was a little awkward. The essential definition of 'liken' is 'compare', and the preposition 'to' works better with 'compare' than does 'as' (which carries a meaning similar to 'like'- 'likens like' is awkward). However, it doesn't hurt my feelings if that doesn't work for everyone, and the way the article reads now seems pretty good. Sorry for the trouble! - MadSammyboy |
:::::Wow- I didn't mean to stir anything up here. I was just reading the article and thought the wording 'likens as' was a little awkward. The essential definition of 'liken' is 'compare', and the preposition 'to' works better with 'compare' than does 'as' (which carries a meaning similar to 'like'- 'likens like' is awkward). However, it doesn't hurt my feelings if that doesn't work for everyone, and the way the article reads now seems pretty good. Sorry for the trouble! - MadSammyboy |
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I know he's gotten a bit of attention lately but come on...I knew the guy when he was "just a substitute high school teacher"...it wasn't that long ago, and he'll probably go back to doing something like that when this fizzles out. [[User:Jmajeremy|Jmajeremy]] ([[User talk:Jmajeremy|talk]]) 21:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC) |
I know he's gotten a bit of attention lately but come on...I knew the guy when he was "just a substitute high school teacher"...it wasn't that long ago, and he'll probably go back to doing something like that when this fizzles out. [[User:Jmajeremy|Jmajeremy]] ([[User talk:Jmajeremy|talk]]) 21:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:This article meets the notability requirements. Epic Meal Time has been covered in many reliable sources, including being featured on Leno. It has also won a [[Shorty Award]], a well-known award. (See [[WP:WEB]].) Also, [[WP:NTEMP|notability is not temporary]]. Regardless of who he was or may be in the future, the subject is notable enough. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 03:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
:This article meets the notability requirements. Epic Meal Time has been covered in many reliable sources, including being featured on Leno. It has also won a [[Shorty Award]], a well-known award. (See [[WP:WEB]].) Also, [[WP:NTEMP|notability is not temporary]]. Regardless of who he was or may be in the future, the subject is notable enough. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 03:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::[[User:Jmajeremy|Jmajeremy]] - this isn't an article about just one individual. This is an article about a [[Internet Phenomenon]] that meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines under [[WP:WEB]]. Even if it "fizzles out" as was noted, notability is not temporary. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
::[[User:Jmajeremy|Jmajeremy]] - this isn't an article about just one individual. This is an article about a [[Internet Phenomenon]] that meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines under [[WP:WEB]]. Even if it "fizzles out" as was noted, notability is not temporary. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 16:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== "Muscles Glasses" vs. "MusclesGlasses" == |
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:::Well, the four sources I mentioned above all refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space. I agree that the EMT crew referring to him as "MusclesGlasses" in that YouTube description could be a source to support it as one word, but I'm finding no reliable mention other than that. Furthermore, two of the sources that refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space are interviews with the EMT guys. I feel like they would be especially careful to get the name right in an interview, since the guys would be right there with them. Also, Muscles Glasses' own YouTube channel uses the space: [http://www.youtube.com/user/MusclesGlasses]. I'll add some inline citations from the existing sources to support "Muscles Glasses" with a space, unless some other, better sources turn up. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 14:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
:::Well, the four sources I mentioned above all refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space. I agree that the EMT crew referring to him as "MusclesGlasses" in that YouTube description could be a source to support it as one word, but I'm finding no reliable mention other than that. Furthermore, two of the sources that refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space are interviews with the EMT guys. I feel like they would be especially careful to get the name right in an interview, since the guys would be right there with them. Also, Muscles Glasses' own YouTube channel uses the space: [http://www.youtube.com/user/MusclesGlasses]. I'll add some inline citations from the existing sources to support "Muscles Glasses" with a space, unless some other, better sources turn up. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <sup>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GorillaWarfare|contribs]]</sup></span> 14:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Alright, sounds good. I didn't even know he had his own channel - I just remembered the one video and assumed that the spelling in the article was the result of all the different misspellings being so prevalent. I could have avoided causing extra work by not being such a lazy wiki user, but alas, my editing is pretty much limited to drive-by grammar/spelling fixes and removal of blatantly NPOV material that irks me. "Muscles Glasses" definitely sounds like the right way to go. [[Special:Contributions/216.165.20.98|216.165.20.98]] ([[User talk:216.165.20.98|talk]]) 22:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
::::Alright, sounds good. I didn't even know he had his own channel - I just remembered the one video and assumed that the spelling in the article was the result of all the different misspellings being so prevalent. I could have avoided causing extra work by not being such a lazy wiki user, but alas, my editing is pretty much limited to drive-by grammar/spelling fixes and removal of blatantly NPOV material that irks me. "Muscles Glasses" definitely sounds like the right way to go. [[Special:Contributions/216.165.20.98|216.165.20.98]] ([[User talk:216.165.20.98|talk]]) 22:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::His Facebook account[http://www.facebook.com/musclesglasses?sk=wall&filter=2] does not use the space, but his Twitter account does [[http://twitter.com/#!/musclesglasses]]. I think at this point, just go with how it is printed in reliable sources. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees< |
::::::His Facebook account[http://www.facebook.com/musclesglasses?sk=wall&filter=2] does not use the space, but his Twitter account does [[http://twitter.com/#!/musclesglasses]]. I think at this point, just go with how it is printed in reliable sources. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== List of EpicMealTime episodes? == |
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Do you think we should add a list of Epic Meal Time episodes to the main article or create a separate article? Any feedback would be appreciated. '''[[User:Lukep913|<span style="text-shadow:red -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em;">Lukep913</span>]]''' 16:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:If you do add a list of episodes, it should not be added to the main article. I've removed attempts to do this several times (partly because they were copyvios), but I suppose I'm not firmly opposed to the idea. I just think that, because it's a weekly show, it will take some effort to keep the list up-to-date. I also don't really know how much value it will add. <span style="font-family: Georgia">– [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small></span> 22:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC) |
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Why not include the link to the episode list next to the number of episodes in the summary box on the main page? This is a format that is consistent with every other TV show's page. [[User:1000headshots|1000headshots]] ([[User talk:1000headshots|talk]]) 17:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== Another Appearance == |
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The guys appear in the new Ken Block video GYM4 as well as a promo for the vid. I think its Harley, MusclesGlasses, Tyler and Ameer Atari [[Special:Contributions/86.175.112.17|86.175.112.17]] ([[User talk:86.175.112.17|talk]]) 20:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Dear Ryan == |
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I've noticed no one mentioned the episode of dear ryan where he was asked to do epic meal time. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.2.105.166|99.2.105.166]] ([[User talk:99.2.105.166|talk]]) 18:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Wrong number of calories == |
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The number of calories sometimes displayed at the bottom right corner of the screen is a 1000 times to small. |
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Just one glass of beer contains about 125000 cal or 125 kcal, so you can easily see that the number should be a 1000 times larger. |
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It's a common mistake: people often confuse cal with kcal (=1000 cal). |
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I hope this is at least mentioned on the page. [[User:Nmachiels|Nmachiels]] ([[User talk:Nmachiels|talk]]) 22:54, 19 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:Common usage in North America (the show is from Canada) is that a calorie is the same as a kcal and when discussiong food, the word "calorie", capitalized or not is always a kilocalorie. [[Nutrition facts label|Nutritional Labels]] from both countries reference calories, not kcal as they do in Europe. Since the show is North American, they're technically not wrong. --<b>[[User:Yankees76|Yankees<span style="color:darkblue;">76</span>]] [[User talk:Yankees76|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 23:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== Edit request on 9 March 2012 == |
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Near the end of the format section, where it mentions why they call the coloured candy bacon gay, I was just going change it a bit and put and say something like it's called gay bacon due to it's resemblance to the rainbow flag and link this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag_(LGBT_movement) |
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[[Special:Contributions/184.171.204.226|184.171.204.226]] ([[User talk:184.171.204.226|talk]]) 04:05, 9 March 2012 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> — [[User:Bility|Bility]] ([[User talk:Bility|talk]]) 18:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC) |
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WHY AM I NOT ON THE EPIC MEAL TIME PAGE AS A CAST MEMBER, IT BOTHERS ME BIG TIME!!! |
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IM LEMME KNO, |
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@lemme_kno on twitter |
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/LemmeKno-EpicMealTime/201901956518011 |
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HERES AN ARTICLE TO PROVE IT http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Epic+Meal+Time+serves+treat+Tonight+Show/5306738/story.html |
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THANKS |
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LK <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lemmekno|Lemmekno]] ([[User talk:Lemmekno|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lemmekno|contribs]]) 01:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Harley Morenstein== |
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Hi folks, very new around here, but thought that Harley deserved his own page even though epic meal time is his major product. I've done my best to create a page here and am wondering if we could discuss why his section was merged and if this article looks good to submit? There is some over lap, but i tried to get into more of his personal story from the articles. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Harley_Morenstein |
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[[User:Geek4gurl|Geek4gurl]] ([[User talk:Geek4gurl|talk]]) 16:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC) |
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== Merge of EpicMealTime (video game) == |
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It has been proposed that [[EpicMealTime (video game)]] be merged into this article - does that make sense, or is it felt that that article can stand on its own? [[User:AdventurousSquirrel|AdventurousSquirrel]] ([[User talk:AdventurousSquirrel|talk]]) 02:54, 18 May 2013 (UTC) |
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== Just Dance 4 == |
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Harley Morenstein also appeared in the Just Dance 4 advert, eating a large sandwich/baquette, along with other YouTube stars such as Shane Dawson. As I cannot edit the article, could someone please mention this on Appearances? Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.232.241.8|92.232.241.8]] ([[User talk:92.232.241.8|talk]]) 15:26, 10 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== TV adaptation == |
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Epic Meal Time is having a TV series called Epic Meal Empire which will air on July 26th on [[Fyi (TV channel)|Fyi]].<ref>http://www.fyi.tv/shows/epic-meal-empire</ref> |
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[[Special:Contributions/86.43.171.113|86.43.171.113]] ([[User talk:86.43.171.113|talk]]) 08:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC) |
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== TV series == |
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Epic Meal Time is adapting into a TV series called Epic Meal Empire which will air on July 26th on [[Fyi (TV channel)|Fyi]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTFL9c0p6JU</ref><ref>http://www.fyi.tv/shows/epic-meal-empire</ref> |
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== The women in the show? == |
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There are women doing... stuff... in the show, which seems like something worth mentioning. I'm guessing they are hired actors? [[User:Yel D'ohan|Yel D'ohan]] ([[User talk:Yel D'ohan|talk]]) 04:59, 8 December 2015 (UTC) |
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== Adding cast member == |
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Harley Morenstein made a request to add a Adam lemco aka Lemekno (sp?) to the current cast listing. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cainrok|Cainrok]] ([[User talk:Cainrok|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cainrok|contribs]]) 01:40, 11 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2016 == |
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On the right, where it states the "starring" cast, |
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Adam Lemco aka Lemme Kno can now be replaced by [[Adam Lemco aka Lemme Kno]] |
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as a wiki page now exists for him. Sources: his twitter and the actual epic meal time page (both linked below) |
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http://www.epicmealtime.com/bio/ |
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http://twitter.com/lemme_kno |
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[[User:Epicwikitemps|Epicwikitemps]] ([[User talk:Epicwikitemps|talk]]) 19:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC) |
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The contents of the Harley Morenstein page were merged into Epic Meal Time on 16th June 2012. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
Original research
[edit]Can you explain to me why you added the original research tag in this edit? I don't see the issue there.
Also, in this edit, you said ""hip hop slang" is debatable and WP:OR without a source". I've re-added "hip-hop slang" and fixed the ref. It seems that either myself or someone else accidentally added information about the camera used before the ref, which confused things a bit. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 07:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- "Hip Hop Slang" was sourced, I removed it by error - the source was indeed there, it was just placed in the wrong spot. Whoops. ;)
- With regards to the addition of what merchandise they've started selling - how is that not original research? It's not really even encyclopedic, and considering most websites sell something, not really notable for an encyclopedia either. There are no reliable sources reporting what specific shirts and slogans/logos they're selling - it references the website which is subject to change. While the cookbook and the iphone app are attributable to a WP:RS, the post about the t-shirts is not, therefore it's WP:OR until referenced with a reliable source. It's the same as posting about the contest section on the site (post your own Epic meal and win a shirt) or commenting on what Harley's facial hair is like, and using their website as a reference. Interesting, but ultimately not encyclopedic. --Yankees76 Talk 15:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think that it is important to include information regarding the t-shirts. From what I've gathered, you're not against the entire merchandising section, and clearly their store is an important aspect of merchandising. Considering their store seems to sell only t-shirts, it strikes me as deserving of at least a passing mention. I'm not sure why you think it's original research to say the store sells t-shirts, though, or to mention some of the slogans. The information is definitely verifiable, falling under the acceptable uses of WP:SELFPUB. There is no synthesis here, and no doubts have been raised over whether or not the store is actually selling those t-shirts. I don't view it as being unencyclopedic and, as I explained above, I think it's notable enough for inclusion. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 16:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree, merely being true, or even verifiable (self published or not), does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I realize that this article will have it's fair share of editors who are fans of Epic Meal Time and will add alot of indiscriminate, but ultimately unencyclopedic information to it. That's fine as it's bound to happen - the Trailer Park Boys article suffered the same fate when that show was popular. This is just one instance where that has happened here - I haven't gone through the article history to see what other nonsense was added.
- Ultimately a popular show, whether it's TV or internet based, selling t-shirts is hardly worthy of a mention in an encyclopedia. The Big Bang Theory has shirts for sale on it's website - should we mention that in the article for that show too and link to the CBS website? Perhaps [original research?] was the wrong tag - the section should probably have an {{Unencyclopedic}} or {{fancruft}} tag instead. --Yankees76 Talk 18:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think that it is important to include information regarding the t-shirts. From what I've gathered, you're not against the entire merchandising section, and clearly their store is an important aspect of merchandising. Considering their store seems to sell only t-shirts, it strikes me as deserving of at least a passing mention. I'm not sure why you think it's original research to say the store sells t-shirts, though, or to mention some of the slogans. The information is definitely verifiable, falling under the acceptable uses of WP:SELFPUB. There is no synthesis here, and no doubts have been raised over whether or not the store is actually selling those t-shirts. I don't view it as being unencyclopedic and, as I explained above, I think it's notable enough for inclusion. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 16:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- I guess I'm a bit confused as to why you've accepted the iPhone app and the cookbook for inclusion, but not the t-shirts. Have you looked at the ref for the iPhone app/cookbook? It mentions the t-shirts there as well. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 18:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, and they also mention EMT toilet paper too. I'm surprised that hasn't made the article.
- I think we both can tell quite easily that "No, but seriously" designates that as a joke. I'm not trying to add frivolous or joke information to this article, I'm simply trying to cover important aspects of what they do. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 19:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Knowing how some people argue on Wikipedia, one could say that he was just joking about the edible and cheese part of the toilet paper. I think the important aspect of what they do and the reason this article is considered notable is their weekly show. T-shirts, sunglasses, slogans and whatnot is frivolous and ultimately not encyclopedic.
- I think we both can tell quite easily that "No, but seriously" designates that as a joke. I'm not trying to add frivolous or joke information to this article, I'm simply trying to cover important aspects of what they do. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 19:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, and they also mention EMT toilet paper too. I'm surprised that hasn't made the article.
- I guess I'm a bit confused as to why you've accepted the iPhone app and the cookbook for inclusion, but not the t-shirts. Have you looked at the ref for the iPhone app/cookbook? It mentions the t-shirts there as well. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 18:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I would propose the section be re-written to be a little more in line with the quality that is expected for Good Articles on this site.
In interviews Mortenstein and Toth have discussed the creation of a cookbook, and an iPhone app to go along with their other merchandising efforts that include branded T-Shirts.[1] --Yankees76 Talk 18:45, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Would you be okay with:
- Epic Meal Time currently sells a line of branded t-shirts. In interviews, Mortenstein and Toth have also discussed the creation of a cookbook and an iPhone app.
- I feel like it flows a little better, and is more clear that the t-shirts are currently being sold, while the app and cookbook are still in the works. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 18:59, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with that. I think the removal of the slogans helps and will prevent the paragraph from growing everytime the group releases a new shirt (ie: Sauce Boss), and being rewritten every time they sell out etc. --Yankees76 Talk 19:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Great, I've replaced it. Thanks for working with me on this. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 19:19, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with that. I think the removal of the slogans helps and will prevent the paragraph from growing everytime the group releases a new shirt (ie: Sauce Boss), and being rewritten every time they sell out etc. --Yankees76 Talk 19:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
References
- ^ Forbes, Paula. "Epic Meal Time: A Bunch of Dudes, Just Making it Happen". Eater National. Retrieved 17 February 2011.
"Likens" vs. "describes"
[edit]I know this is incredibly nitpicky, but wouldn't MadSammyboy's edit changing "Morenstein likens his show as "Jackass in the kitchen"" to "Morenstein describes his show as "Jackass in the kitchen"" be better? "Likens as" sounds odd to me. Usually I only hear "liken to", but "Morenstein likens his show to "Jackass in the kitchen"" sounds bizarre as well. I'm just checking to avoid any edit wars, etc. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 23:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it's incredibly nitpicky. By definition likens means "to see or represent as the same or similar; compare", that's exactly what the reliable source does[1] It didn't "describe" them as Jackass in the kitchen, it says it is, Morenstein admits, Jackass in the Kitchen, right down to the logo: a skull with a pot on its head, and two kitchen knives forming the crossbones. Therefore - "to see or represent as the same" or "likens" Likens them to or likens them as would probably require weigh in by someone with a bit more formal copyediting training. The article for Maxis uses "likens them as" in the lead.
- BTW - Am I going to have to defend every edit I make to this article to you on the talk page? If so, let me know, and I'll start a thread for each one to get your approval first so I don't waste more time making the edits in the first place. This is becoming tedious, and considering the triviality of the content that is being discussed and challenged on here (and some of the major and well sourced information that was missing from the article previously while such non-notable topics were being discussed), I suspect that both of our time could probably be spent on more important issues than T-shirt sales and one word edits. --Yankees76 Talk 12:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- In order to avoid a further 10 or 15 post discussion, I've changed the copy to reflect the the exact text from the Montreal Gazette.--Yankees76 Talk 13:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- The new wording seems fine to me. I'm not sure if the question here is whether or not you'll have to defend your edits to me, or if others will have to defend theirs to you. I don't understand why you reverted the edit by MadSammyboy when, in my opinion, it made the article flow better. I know this was a nitpicky point to bring up, and I apologize if you feel it's a waste of your time. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 13:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the explanation above as to the definition of the word "likens" explains the rationale behind the revert quite well. Not every non-vandalism edit is an improvement. --Yankees76 Talk 14:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wow- I didn't mean to stir anything up here. I was just reading the article and thought the wording 'likens as' was a little awkward. The essential definition of 'liken' is 'compare', and the preposition 'to' works better with 'compare' than does 'as' (which carries a meaning similar to 'like'- 'likens like' is awkward). However, it doesn't hurt my feelings if that doesn't work for everyone, and the way the article reads now seems pretty good. Sorry for the trouble! - MadSammyboy
- I think the explanation above as to the definition of the word "likens" explains the rationale behind the revert quite well. Not every non-vandalism edit is an improvement. --Yankees76 Talk 14:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- The new wording seems fine to me. I'm not sure if the question here is whether or not you'll have to defend your edits to me, or if others will have to defend theirs to you. I don't understand why you reverted the edit by MadSammyboy when, in my opinion, it made the article flow better. I know this was a nitpicky point to bring up, and I apologize if you feel it's a waste of your time. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 13:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- In order to avoid a further 10 or 15 post discussion, I've changed the copy to reflect the the exact text from the Montreal Gazette.--Yankees76 Talk 13:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Notability
[edit]I know he's gotten a bit of attention lately but come on...I knew the guy when he was "just a substitute high school teacher"...it wasn't that long ago, and he'll probably go back to doing something like that when this fizzles out. Jmajeremy (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- This article meets the notability requirements. Epic Meal Time has been covered in many reliable sources, including being featured on Leno. It has also won a Shorty Award, a well-known award. (See WP:WEB.) Also, notability is not temporary. Regardless of who he was or may be in the future, the subject is notable enough. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 03:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- Jmajeremy - this isn't an article about just one individual. This is an article about a Internet Phenomenon that meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines under WP:WEB. Even if it "fizzles out" as was noted, notability is not temporary. --Yankees76 Talk 16:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
"Muscles Glasses" vs. "MusclesGlasses"
[edit]I believe I've reverted the change from "Muscles Glasses" to "MusclesGlasses" three times now. I looked through every single one of the existing references, and all of the ones that mention him refer to him as "Muscles Glasses", including the space: [2], [3], [4], [5]. I tried to look for a source that used "MusclesGlasses", but found little. I couldn't find a mention of him on the official site, and other sources using that appear to be mostly unreliable. If there's a good reason to change from "Muscles Glasses" to "MusclesGlasses" (i.e. one supported by reliable sources), do let me know. Otherwise, it should stay as it is. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 21:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, I didn't realize it was a point of contention here. "MusclesGlasses" is used in the youtube video description for the episode "Sugar Shack." I haven't seen it written anywhere else by the EMT crew. 216.165.20.98 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:19, 23 May 2011 (UTC).
- But by all means, if you have a good source that differs, keep it reverted. The Epic Meal Time youtube description I mentioned is ungrammatical itself: "We head to MusclesGlasses birthplace... and eat." However, the video does also state: "Somewhere deep in Quebec... lies the birthplaces of MusclesGlasses." Normally I don't think it'd matter all that much, but fans seem to get the name wrong far more often than they get it right, with most of the youtube comments I've seen using some variant of "muscle glasses" instead of the plural. He is a main character, so it'd be helpful for the wiki page to get it straight. Maybe a footnote? 216.165.20.98 (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the four sources I mentioned above all refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space. I agree that the EMT crew referring to him as "MusclesGlasses" in that YouTube description could be a source to support it as one word, but I'm finding no reliable mention other than that. Furthermore, two of the sources that refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space are interviews with the EMT guys. I feel like they would be especially careful to get the name right in an interview, since the guys would be right there with them. Also, Muscles Glasses' own YouTube channel uses the space: [6]. I'll add some inline citations from the existing sources to support "Muscles Glasses" with a space, unless some other, better sources turn up. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 14:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, sounds good. I didn't even know he had his own channel - I just remembered the one video and assumed that the spelling in the article was the result of all the different misspellings being so prevalent. I could have avoided causing extra work by not being such a lazy wiki user, but alas, my editing is pretty much limited to drive-by grammar/spelling fixes and removal of blatantly NPOV material that irks me. "Muscles Glasses" definitely sounds like the right way to go. 216.165.20.98 (talk) 22:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- His Facebook account[7] does not use the space, but his Twitter account does [[8]]. I think at this point, just go with how it is printed in reliable sources. --Yankees76 Talk 14:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, sounds good. I didn't even know he had his own channel - I just remembered the one video and assumed that the spelling in the article was the result of all the different misspellings being so prevalent. I could have avoided causing extra work by not being such a lazy wiki user, but alas, my editing is pretty much limited to drive-by grammar/spelling fixes and removal of blatantly NPOV material that irks me. "Muscles Glasses" definitely sounds like the right way to go. 216.165.20.98 (talk) 22:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the four sources I mentioned above all refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space. I agree that the EMT crew referring to him as "MusclesGlasses" in that YouTube description could be a source to support it as one word, but I'm finding no reliable mention other than that. Furthermore, two of the sources that refer to him as "Muscles Glasses" with the space are interviews with the EMT guys. I feel like they would be especially careful to get the name right in an interview, since the guys would be right there with them. Also, Muscles Glasses' own YouTube channel uses the space: [6]. I'll add some inline citations from the existing sources to support "Muscles Glasses" with a space, unless some other, better sources turn up. – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 14:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- But by all means, if you have a good source that differs, keep it reverted. The Epic Meal Time youtube description I mentioned is ungrammatical itself: "We head to MusclesGlasses birthplace... and eat." However, the video does also state: "Somewhere deep in Quebec... lies the birthplaces of MusclesGlasses." Normally I don't think it'd matter all that much, but fans seem to get the name wrong far more often than they get it right, with most of the youtube comments I've seen using some variant of "muscle glasses" instead of the plural. He is a main character, so it'd be helpful for the wiki page to get it straight. Maybe a footnote? 216.165.20.98 (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
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Epic Review Time
[edit]Hater what you know about Good Article criteria!
Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality: Clear and readable
- B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists: Yes
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources: Yes
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary: Yes, but this link is dead, as well as the "Epic Deals" link.
- C. No original research: As far as I can tell, there isn't any.
Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects: I'm comparing this to other TV show GAs, which are more comprehensive but on the other hand are frankly more significant. For what has been said and done about this show, this article covers the bases.
- B. Focused: Yes, goes into sufficient detail.
Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias: Yes
Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc: Vandalism seems to be reverted pretty swiftly, but watch out. This article is the kind of thing people would love to screw around with, whether to lambaste them for their latest episode (in which they did not cook at all!) or to just say "HATER WHILE YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION IN CLASS I WAS EDITING WIKIPEDIA." Make sure nothing bad stays in the article for too long and semi-protect the article if necessary. As for edit wars, decide whether it's "MusclesGlasses" or "Muscles Glasses" in case that crops up again.
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales: Yes
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions: Yes
Overall: Pass or Fail: Please address the issues I have raised.
hare j 09:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have fixed the two dead links. As for the vandalism, I have the page on my watchlist, as do other people (perhaps Yankees76?). Like you said, vandalism that isn't picked up by Hugglers is caught pretty swiftly. I don't think semi-protection is necessary, purely because the volume of vandalism is pretty low. As for the Muscles Glasses issue, the IP, Yankees76, and I seem to have agreed to follow what is in the sources: "Muscles Glasses" with a space. Thank you. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- On second thought, I've semi-protected. The amount of vandalism seems to be increasing, so I think this will be helpful in the long run. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I have fixed the two dead links. As for the vandalism, I have the page on my watchlist, as do other people (perhaps Yankees76?). Like you said, vandalism that isn't picked up by Hugglers is caught pretty swiftly. I don't think semi-protection is necessary, purely because the volume of vandalism is pretty low. As for the Muscles Glasses issue, the IP, Yankees76, and I seem to have agreed to follow what is in the sources: "Muscles Glasses" with a space. Thank you. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Article passed. hare j 02:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
List of EpicMealTime episodes?
[edit]Do you think we should add a list of Epic Meal Time episodes to the main article or create a separate article? Any feedback would be appreciated. Lukep913 16:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- If you do add a list of episodes, it should not be added to the main article. I've removed attempts to do this several times (partly because they were copyvios), but I suppose I'm not firmly opposed to the idea. I just think that, because it's a weekly show, it will take some effort to keep the list up-to-date. I also don't really know how much value it will add. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Why not include the link to the episode list next to the number of episodes in the summary box on the main page? This is a format that is consistent with every other TV show's page. 1000headshots (talk) 17:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Another Appearance
[edit]The guys appear in the new Ken Block video GYM4 as well as a promo for the vid. I think its Harley, MusclesGlasses, Tyler and Ameer Atari 86.175.112.17 (talk) 20:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Dear Ryan
[edit]I've noticed no one mentioned the episode of dear ryan where he was asked to do epic meal time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.2.105.166 (talk) 18:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Wrong number of calories
[edit]The number of calories sometimes displayed at the bottom right corner of the screen is a 1000 times to small. Just one glass of beer contains about 125000 cal or 125 kcal, so you can easily see that the number should be a 1000 times larger. It's a common mistake: people often confuse cal with kcal (=1000 cal). I hope this is at least mentioned on the page. Nmachiels (talk) 22:54, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Common usage in North America (the show is from Canada) is that a calorie is the same as a kcal and when discussiong food, the word "calorie", capitalized or not is always a kilocalorie. Nutritional Labels from both countries reference calories, not kcal as they do in Europe. Since the show is North American, they're technically not wrong. --Yankees76 Talk 23:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 9 March 2012
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Near the end of the format section, where it mentions why they call the coloured candy bacon gay, I was just going change it a bit and put and say something like it's called gay bacon due to it's resemblance to the rainbow flag and link this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag_(LGBT_movement)
Thank you 184.171.204.226 (talk) 04:05, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Done — Bility (talk) 18:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
WHY AM I NOT ON THE EPIC MEAL TIME PAGE AS A CAST MEMBER, IT BOTHERS ME BIG TIME!!! IM LEMME KNO, @lemme_kno on twitter https://www.facebook.com/pages/LemmeKno-EpicMealTime/201901956518011 HERES AN ARTICLE TO PROVE IT http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Epic+Meal+Time+serves+treat+Tonight+Show/5306738/story.html
THANKS
LK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemmekno (talk • contribs) 01:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Harley Morenstein
[edit]Hi folks, very new around here, but thought that Harley deserved his own page even though epic meal time is his major product. I've done my best to create a page here and am wondering if we could discuss why his section was merged and if this article looks good to submit? There is some over lap, but i tried to get into more of his personal story from the articles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Harley_Morenstein Geek4gurl (talk) 16:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Merge of EpicMealTime (video game)
[edit]It has been proposed that EpicMealTime (video game) be merged into this article - does that make sense, or is it felt that that article can stand on its own? AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 02:54, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Just Dance 4
[edit]Harley Morenstein also appeared in the Just Dance 4 advert, eating a large sandwich/baquette, along with other YouTube stars such as Shane Dawson. As I cannot edit the article, could someone please mention this on Appearances? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.241.8 (talk) 15:26, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
TV adaptation
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Epic Meal Time is having a TV series called Epic Meal Empire which will air on July 26th on Fyi.[1] 86.43.171.113 (talk) 08:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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TV series
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Epic Meal Time is adapting into a TV series called Epic Meal Empire which will air on July 26th on Fyi.[1][2] 86.42.118.16 (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Done —cyberpower ChatOnline 08:55, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The women in the show?
[edit]There are women doing... stuff... in the show, which seems like something worth mentioning. I'm guessing they are hired actors? Yel D'ohan (talk) 04:59, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Adding cast member
[edit]Harley Morenstein made a request to add a Adam lemco aka Lemekno (sp?) to the current cast listing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cainrok (talk • contribs) 01:40, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2016
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On the right, where it states the "starring" cast,
Adam Lemco aka Lemme Kno can now be replaced by Adam Lemco aka Lemme Kno
as a wiki page now exists for him. Sources: his twitter and the actual epic meal time page (both linked below)
http://www.epicmealtime.com/bio/
Thanks! Epicwikitemps (talk) 19:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Done Along with other fixes -- The Voidwalker Discuss 01:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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