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On 11 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to The Emperor (tarot card). The result of the discussion was moved to "tarot" ( 'small t' ).

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I removed the "Examples" section since it was entirely Original Research which Wikipedia does not allow. I left the "mythopoeteic interpretation" section because that may have come from a reputable source but it seems to be something based on personal interpretation like the "Examples" section. - DNewhall

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The article is just personal opinions from an occult enthusiast about the nature and meaning of a particular tarot card. No peer reviewed books or journal articles are cited. No references or footnotes are given. When a new statement is added, the source needs to be cited, and the source needs to be verifiable, and reliable. Waite is not an unbiased, factual source on the history or evolution of tarot cards. The work can be cited properly, however: "Waite's opinion in his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot ... etc" The other sources are definitely of questionable academic weight.

The card in question has a history of over 500 years in European card games in which it is used as trump card (see Tarocchi). The article is unbalanced in that it only features the recent uses of the card for divination. This makes the article biased due to its recentism. Since the article ignores use of the card for game play in Europe and other parts of the world, it offers an anglo-american perspective that raises NPOV issues. There are academic sources and sources from international organizations discussing the history and evolution of the "Emperor" card as well as its use in games. These need to be utilized. - Parsa 07:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:The Fool (Tarot card) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 I removed the "Examples" section since it was entirely [[WP:OR|Original Research]] which Wikipedia does not allow. I left the "mythopoeteic interpretation" section because that may have come from a reputable source but it seems to be something based on personal interpretation like the "Examples" section. - [[User:DNewhall|DNewhall]]
+== Unverifiable and unbalanced content ==
+The article is just personal opinions from an occult enthusiast about the nature and meaning of a particular tarot card. No peer reviewed books or journal articles are cited. No references or footnotes are given. When a new statement is added, the source needs to be [[WP:CITE|cited]], and the source needs to be [[WP:V|verifiable]], and [[WP:RS|reliable]]. Waite is not an unbiased, factual source on the history or evolution of tarot cards. The work can be cited properly, however: "Waite's opinion in his book ''The Pictorial Key to the Tarot'' ... etc" The other sources are definitely of questionable academic weight.
+The card in question has a history of over 500 years in European card games in which it is used as trump card (see [[Tarocchi]]). The article is unbalanced in that it only features the recent uses of the card for [[divination]]. This makes the article biased due to its [[WP:RECENT|recentism]]. Since the article ignores use of the card for game play in Europe and other parts of the world, it offers an anglo-american perspective that raises [[WP:NPOV|NPOV]] issues. There are academic sources and sources from international organizations discussing the history and evolution of the "Emperor" card as well as its use in games. These need to be utilized. - [[User:Parsa|Parsa]] 07:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
+== Move discussion in progress ==
+There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:The Fool (Tarot card)#Requested move 11 August 2022|Talk:The Fool (Tarot card)]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:The Fool (Tarot card)#Requested move 11 August 2022 crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 13:33, 11 August 2022 (UTC)