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== Hitler's scull? ==
==Untitled==
This Article is false...
The very most important reason that you know that Hitler didn't care about animals is because he killed, tortured, and made so many people suffer. Humans are animals, mammals and Hitler did not show any love or emotion to any human except to the ones who were fighting by his side. Oh and he eats pork making him not a vegetarian..


How can tests from Hitlers scull be a thing when there is no existing remains from Hitler? The scull the russians claimed to have was not of Hitler according to subsequent analysis. This article seems misleading. [[Special:Contributions/80.167.96.4|80.167.96.4]] ([[User talk:80.167.96.4|talk]]) 09:09, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
== Bree Wilson reference ==


== [[Eiernockerl]], etc ==
May I suggest the reference be removed along with it all statements from it? The author clearly doesn't read German on a level that would make the text a reliable source, as indicated by the title of the text. Couldawouldashoulda hearsay through translations or unqualified attempts at one's own translation don't make a reliable source. --[[User:OliverH|OliverH]] ([[User talk:OliverH|talk]]) 09:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


I added information about one more Hitler myth, this one about his food preferences, but the info was deleted by [[User talk:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] with the following edit summary : "1) Vegetarians can eat egg dumplings ; and 2) if the claim is untrue why are we even adding it here?"
==Why the first only ever vegetarian politician who was openly advocating vegetarianism get's attacked by his enemies, full of hate ==
Someone here wrote, that because his enemies blame him, after death and unable (and illegal) to defend himself, of atrocities, therefore he could have never do anything good, and must hav evil reasons for doing everything in his life...


Response: Vegetarians may eat egg dumplings alright but the added information brings into relief the myth built around Hitler's dumplings, i.e. that he was fond of them, as cooked in Austria (''Eiernockerl''), while in fact he liked ''liver dumplings'', which evidently no vegetarian would touch. The myth about Hitler's fondness for egg dumplings gave birth to yet another [[Nazi_symbolism#Usages_by_neo-Nazi_groups|neofascist code symbol]]. It's entirely appropriate to include this information here since the article deals, and quite rightly too, with both fact and myth about Hitler's food habits and his ostensible vegetarianism. -[[User:The Gnome|The Gnome]] ([[User talk:The Gnome|talk]]) 12:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I could say the same, a man who ordered ration cards for dogs, who stop the torture of animals could not have ordered that which their enemies accused him.
:The section is dealing with his fondness for liver dumplings, which have nothing to do with egg dumplings. Rynn Berry specifically discusses liver dumplings, not egg dumplings. You are conflating the two and misrepresenting what Berry actually says. It is also not relevant to the article: it specifically addresses whether Hitler was vegetarian or not; just because a neo-Nazi started an urban legend about Hitler's favourite dish being egg dumplings does not imply anything one way or the other in relation to Hitler's vegetarianism. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 13:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
:I have added the claim onto the end of the section. I hope this will be an acceptable compromise. It is plausible that the two types of dumpling have become conflated over the years so upon reflection I think it is ok to include it, but I think it is wrong to incorporate it into Berry's claim when Berry himself is very specific that Hitler's favourite dish was liver dumplings. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 13:58, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
::The information I added is, of course, not of major importance but it ''is'' important, especially due to its current, ''significant'' relevance. The way it is now presented is perfectly acceptable. As a side note, myths started about aspects of the Nazi regime by acolytes of the regime are not "[[urban legend]]s," which pertains to something else entirely. -[[User:The Gnome|The Gnome]] ([[User talk:The Gnome|talk]]) 16:20, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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== Why no German page? ==
We both can play this card.


Is there a reason this page does not exist in German? Is there really nobody willing/able to translate it to German? Or has it been tried before and was censored because "Hitler a vegetarian" would give him some touch of humanity, which would, of course, be verboten in Germany. Honest question. I'd be willing to translate it to German, but don't want to do it as wasted effort if it gets deleted anyway. [[User:Cainoom|Cainoom]] ([[User talk:Cainoom|talk]]) 23:05, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
And I win because my point can be proven without doubt, there is no discussion about the official published laws protecting animals, stopping vivisection and forcing a better treatment of animals.
While you, only have doubted documents, obtained through torture, by the soviets, confession written in English by German officials who didn't speak English, and information proven false and exagerated by the so called Nuremberg trials, which the US Supreme Court considered an insult to law, a joke and a dishonor.


:This is the English WP. Any questions about the German WP should be asked there as it is a separate project with its own guidelines. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#034503">MB</b>]] 02:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
He calmed his Navy Chief of Staff saying he couldn't implement vegetarianism, YET.


== Eva Braun and cosmetics? ==
Why doesn't this article talked about how the situation of animals changed with the "Liberation"? What happened? I tell you, laboratories were allowed to torture again. With Hitler's laws, mistreatment of animals did end with people in jail, for years, 3 years for killing a pig in unhuman ways.


I removed this statement {{tq|Hitler also disapproved of cosmetics, since they contained animal by-products, and he frequently teased Eva Braun about her habit of wearing makeup.}}. It cited Hitler's [https://ia800203.us.archive.org/24/items/HitlerTableTalk/Hitler%20TableTalk.pdf table talks ]. However, I was unable to find this in the document (no page was given). The search function can be a little unreliable on this PDF. If anybody can find it, they can include it again, however I was unable to find references to cosmetics/Eva. [[User:Zenomonoz|Zenomonoz]] ([[User talk:Zenomonoz|talk]]) 00:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
So, run away from here, you lying cowards! You should be ashamed, all the fake vegetarians and fake nature lovers, grow testicles and accept the facts, free yourself from the war propaganda of the winners (the winner who won because they trully were brutal, merciless and didn't give a damn about animals or humans). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.16.9.203|95.16.9.203]] ([[User talk:95.16.9.203|talk]]) 19:56, 20 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Please don't use wikipedia discussions for propagating inane conspiracy theories. The comment you most likely wanted to contend to was just as useless, but it would be better if neither instead of both of you "play this card". And for replying to other comments, please do so within the corresponding section instead of starting a new one.[[User:Makrom|Makrom]] ([[User talk:Makrom|talk]]) 01:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


:It's not that important. The article is, essentially, about his diet. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 07:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
==Article has been Highjacked and pushes a POV agenda==
::Good point, thanks. [[User:Zenomonoz|Zenomonoz]] ([[User talk:Zenomonoz|talk]]) 11:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
I agree, this article has been highjacked long ago by people with an agenda, reffing any old talking head, regardless of expertise.
:There is an 1999 interview with the house manager of the Berghof, Herbert Döhring, posted on Youtube in 2013. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNa9X92CmvM) It is 2.5 hours long and contains many aspects of Hitler's private details. His wife was the cook at the Berghof and the interviewer askes many details about mean prep. One of those details was the meal preparation, and how the menu was discussed. Its all very interesting. start the video at 35:00. Döhring goes into detail how his wife got started cooking and ended up working for Hitler. The reason for Hitler's vegetarianism is explained starting at 38:50. Hitler suffered gas poisoning in WWI and it affected his taste ever-after:
:38:48 -- Döhring, "... when the kitchen was still very small [Hitler] often went to my wife whom he always called Anna even when we were married and said 'oh Anna, I have a terrible taste again and it always returns. I have it since my gas posioning in the war. I can't smell meat and sauce.' "
:39:13 -- Döhring, "That was also the reason why he switched to a vegetarian diet. I'm firmly conviced of that. Everything else that was talked and written after the war does not apply at all. His personal statements are decisive and only those are relevant." [[Special:Contributions/162.206.218.8|162.206.218.8]] ([[User talk:162.206.218.8|talk]]) 11:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)


== Was this study about the fake skull found by sowejt soldiers? ==
Bree wilson for a start is completely unsuitable, and Robert Payne is heavily criticised for his broad assumptions and complete lack of any credibility as an authority on Hitler. Just google him and see. I half expect to see a quote from 'some drunk guy I met once'.


An examination carried out by French scientists on a fragment of Hitler's skull in 2018 found no traces of meat fibre in the tartar on Hitler's teeth. [[Special:Contributions/92.19.103.57|92.19.103.57]] ([[User talk:92.19.103.57|talk]]) 18:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Also, the MASSIVE refs at the bottom of the page are entirely inappropriate for wikipedia. Refs are supposed to be REFS, that is, a reference that people can go check to read more. NOT a gigantic extension of the article.
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== Potential GA Promotion ==
The whole article has become a systematic collection of any duffer who backs up the notion that 'Hitler wasn't reallllllllly a veggie', for an obvious and yet very silly, agenda.


Someone sort this out, I have tried but the revert monkeys are in town. [[Special:Contributions/87.114.2.169|87.114.2.169]] ([[User talk:87.114.2.169|talk]]) 13:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there anything that needs major improvement? [[User:Okmrman|Okmrman]] ([[User talk:Okmrman|talk]]) 04:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

:Well, you talk a lot from "agendas", maybe you have your own. [[Bee Wilson]] (in the section "'Hitler was reallllllllly a veggie'", as you would say), seems and expert historian, according to his article, and expert in Hitler's diets. [[Robert Payne]] is an important and recognised writer and historian, and an expert in the life of Adolf Hitler. Criticized? As everywhere, but if you want to make a critic from his writings, make it in his own article, and using good and reliable sources. I really don't think either that be appropriate compare Payne with "'some drunk guy I met once'."

:And the REFs can be used also as notes, according to a lot of articles from this Wikipedia, but in that point, maybe you have a little reason: some of the notes would be better more short (now I am thinking in the "Proctor 1999, p. 136 ...", the "Arluke & Sanders 1996, pp. 144, 150 ..." and the "Rudacille 2001, p. 88 ..." notes). But I don't believe these notes would simply dissapear, only would be more shorts, showing only the essential information. [[User:Akhran|Akhran]] ([[User talk:Akhran|talk]]) 14:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


BUT where has Bee Wilson gotten her opinion on Hitlers vegetarianism from?

This statement of hers;
"For a start, his distaste for meat knew no pity of animals."

Flies quite blatantly in the face of the actual facts of Hitler's concern for Animal welfare.

Germany's [[Animal welfare in Nazi Germany|Animal welfare laws]] were the strictest laws in the world at that time and were a direct result of Hitler's distaste for the use of animals for testing, kosher slaughtering and general abuse of animals. This is of obvious importance when considering Hitler's beliefs and directly gives a possible insight into his vegetarian diet.

I added a small section on this (Animal welfare in Nazi Germany), to be improved later, so why has this section been removed by you?

Bee wilson is simply attributing what she thinks Hitler must have been like (bad, evil, madman etc.) rather than actually talking from any scholarly insight into his character. She is a poor source. Hugh Trevor-Roper Alan Bullock or Ian Kershaw are proper historian sources.

And yes the refs should be shortened to the basics, then anyone who wants can look them up.[[Special:Contributions/87.114.2.169|87.114.2.169]] ([[User talk:87.114.2.169|talk]]) 15:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry for delete the section about "Animal welfare" you introduced, I only reverted the big quantity of changes you made, by the causes I have said before. But in any way, that section fits more in an article about [[Animal welfare in Nazi Germany|the article]] you linked or in a article as [[Animal welfare]]. Animal welfarism or environmentalism has really little to do with "vegetarianism". Most of the activist in these movements eat meat (because animal welfare say that can be acceptable kill an animal for food if any unnecessary suffering is avoided and environmentalism say that is OK if is done in a sustainable manner).

:About Bee Wilson, I think she is more expert in Hitler that we are, so I will not question his knowledge. You question that, but I think we aren't experts historians. Maybe his cite included in the article isn't really good and could be rewrited (maintaining the meaning of this affirmation of the sentence), but I don't agree his work isn't a reliable source for this article. [[User:Akhran|Akhran]] ([[User talk:Akhran|talk]]) 16:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Obviously the legitimacy of the references are a POV in themselves, but generally if the references come from published works (books/journal articles) then they are acceptable. It's up to the readers to decide their veracity. However I agree that the referencing is being abused. Some of them are miniature essays that are irrelevant to the subject. Notes are supposed to clarify information in the article, not to extend it. For instance the reference which includes a min-essay on Wagner's anti-Semitic theories are irrelevant to Hitler's vegetarianism. They only warrant mention to the extent that some of Hitler's views are linked to them. As for the section on animal welfare, I don't see why that can't be brought into the article, but it should be restricted to legislation and policies that were brought in under Hitler to illuminate his compassion for animals, and it should be brief. After all like an editor pointed out the article isn't about animal welfare in Nazi Germnay, but Hitler's involvement in animal welfare in Germany is relevant to a possible vegetarian lifestyle. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 12:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree in the point that the "min-essay on Wagner's anti-Semitic theories" is too long and includes information not linked to the article, but I disagree that is any link between the Nazi animal welfare policies and the vegetarianism of his leader and that section fits in this article. If he would promoted [[animal rights]] and vegetarianism, then a section of this type would be neccesarily, but Nazis (and his leader) promoted only [[animal welfare]], position that points that "''is morally acceptable for humans to use nonhuman animals for food, in animal research, as clothing, and in entertainment, so long as unnecessary suffering is avoided''". An that's not a vegetarian position, referring to food. Referring to "animal research" the Nazi laws that ban vivisection (August 1933) only were running three weeks, after which Nazis permit again vivisection under regulation. So I don't see connection with Hitler vegetarianism. [[User:Akhran|Akhran]] ([[User talk:Akhran|talk]]) 13:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
::The animal rights section is relevant to the extent that Hitler's vegetariansm is being questioned. There generally is a strong correlation between a person's vegetarian dietary practice and their views on animal rights, so it's relevant in that it may provide motivation for Hitler's private dietary practices. I don't advocate a whole section on it, but I can see a legitimate argument for including a brief overview in regards to Hitler's general views on animal welfare because it provides a context for the pro arguments, and demonstartes consisten behaviour in other areas of his life. If an editor wants to add a brief overview of Hitler's participation in animal welfare to the article I wouldn't have any problem with that. Maybe they can write it up here first so we don't have any edit warring on the main article. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 14:44, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
:::But the the matter is that there isn't an "Animal rights section", is a "Animal welfare section". And "Animal rights" and "Animal welfare" is really a different thing. You say "''There generally is a strong correlation between a person's vegetarian dietary practice and their views on animal rights''", and that's true, but Nazis didn't have animal rights policies and laws, they have animal welfare policies and laws, and usually for reason different from the reason that makes "ethical vegetarians": to avoid what they called "Jewish science". [[User:Akhran|Akhran]] ([[User talk:Akhran|talk]]) 14:56, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Do we actually need an article on such a specialized topic? Why isn't it simply included under "Hitler" or "vegetarianism"? --[[User:Maybellyne|Maybellyne]] ([[User talk:Maybellyne|talk]]) 06:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Akhran by his own profile is an animal rights activist and therefore by POV rules should be excluded from editing this article.[[Special:Contributions/64.167.16.142|64.167.16.142]] ([[User talk:64.167.16.142|talk]]) 20:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bee Wilson's opinion ==


I don't see why this person's opinion should feature so prominently (in a special paragraph, no less), especially considering s/he clearly misinterpreted H.'s words (whether wittingly or not, I don't know). It is not clear (and it should be, considering this is a supposedly encylopedic site) where this person got the impression that H. "knew no pity for animals", but what is certain - to those who have taken care to actually read extensive texts about this topic, including entire dinner-table conversations - is that he did not "boast" about visiting slaughterhouses. He usually closed his graphic descriptions of animal slaughtering - aimed at his blissfully oblivious meat-eating guests - by commenting on their (the guests') "hypocrisy".


Not good table manners, I agree.
But it's not the same as "boasting".
And it certainly doesn't equal "no pity for animals".


EVERYBODY deserves a fair and intellectually honest treatment.
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== Change to the intro==
The intro starts off by saying; 'Hitler is said to have practised some form of vegetarianism' Countless of the reliabe sources support that he was a vegetarian, so I think it could be said with certainity that he was indeed a vegetarian, instead of this uncertain and 'guessing' opening to the article, a second thing we need to change is the postfix, the 'some form of vegetarianism', again its a vague, imprecise formulation. I believe the intro of the article should, as according to all the sources, settle straightaway that hitler was a vegetarian. Which form of vegetarianism he practiced seems a bit to pedantic and unimportant for the intro. I think we should elaborate later on in the article, which 'form' of vegetarianism he practiced. So to include these 2 changes, I vote we change the beforementioned sentence from the opening to: "Hiter was a vegetarian" -its simple straight to the point and very accurate. Anyone in favour?[[User:Averagejoedev|Averagejoedev]] ([[User talk:Averagejoedev|talk]]) 14:38, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
:I agree that the opening sentence is loaded; it's unquestionable he practised vegetarianism, the question is to what extent, so I support your revision. The problem with the lead though is that it's too short to adequately summarise the issues that the article covers, but in the absence of a properly written lead I support removing the bias. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 01:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
::Okay I have now changed the lead. I think there are a other problems in this article. For instance; The statement that Hitler he was not an 'Ethical vegetarian' and in fact the entire use of Rynn Berry(a vegetarian activist, with no historical expertise)as a source in the "Questoning Hitler's Vegetarianism" section, needs to be questioned, and possibly removed. I'll open a new talk section to handle this.[[User:Averagejoedev|Averagejoedev]] ([[User talk:Averagejoedev|talk]]) 07:35, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

"It's unquestionable he practised vegetarianism, the question is to what extent." Vegetarians dont eat meat. Not a little meat or every once in a while but no meat at all, hence the term. Hitler ate meat. Whether he ate it rarely or not is irrelevant. He was an omnivore (ate meat and non meat to various extent). This is a little like saying Hitler practiced sexual abstinence but had sex every once in a while. The only people being pedantic here are those writing that hitler was a vegetarian. The intro should be reverted from stating an absolute to at the very least stating that there is dispute on the matter. august 2011

:There is no hard definition. Vegetarian societies might like to think there is and have their own unambiguous definitions, but in common usage there are plenty of people who eat meat who identify themselves as vegetarian in some capacity. That's why we have phrases such as "strict vegetarian", or "pesco-vegetarian", "semi-vegetarian" or "flexitarian" which is basically a vegetarian based diet with a meat component. Wikipedia can't adopt a single rigid definition since it would violate [[WP:NPOV]]. Even the disputers generally agree that his diet was vegetarian based or geared to a reduced meat-intake, so the dispute is really only over his level of adherence i.e. was Hitler a strict vegetarian or a flexitarian. [[User:Betty Logan|Betty Logan]] ([[User talk:Betty Logan|talk]]) 20:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

:"Vegetarian societies"? They still have those? The Oxford English dictionary defines vegetarianism as:"a person who does not eat meat, and sometimes other animal products, especially for moral, religious, or health reasons." Websters dictionary defines vegetarianism as :"1 n. one who believes in or practices vegetarianism. 2 adj. consisting wholly of vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, and sometimes eggs or dairy products" Thats a pretty "hard definition." Common usage varies from place to place (ive never heard your line of argument before) and belongs in urban dictionary dot com. You say "Wikipedia can't adopt a single rigid definition since it would violate NPOV" then why does the heading say that hitler was a vegetarian when he wasnt? Diets cant be "vegetarian based", they can be vegetable/fruit based and supplemented with meat. Until the modern era most Europeans, excluding the ruling classes, ate mostly a non meat diet based on one or two basic staples which they supplemented with meat whenever they could rarely afford to buy it (or illegally hunt it on rich peoples preserves). This was because meat was expensive and dangerous to poach. This doens't make them vegetarians and they certainly didnt consider themselves as such. Looking at the citations of the "flexitarians" wiki page it seems to me its something made up a few years ago for no reason whats so ever. If you want to write that Hitler was a "flexitarian" whatever. But from i understand he went on diets because he was was in poor health and that's what his doctors recommended to him. august 2011
::Well, the whole article should be delelted as this only concerns a very minor aspect of Hitler's life, unless one considers that his long and boring discussion about vegetarianism are one of his most prominent activities. The way the sources are chosen and presented laos raise questions. For instance, the sentence "In his post-war reminiscence The Enigma of Hitler, Belgian SS General, and friend of Hitler's, Léon Degrelle wrote: "He could not bear to eat meat, because it meant the death of a living creature. He refused to have so much as a rabbit or a trout sacrificed to provide his food. He would allow only eggs on his table, because egg-laying meant that the hen had been spared rather than killed."[13] contains several factual inaccuracies. To start with Degrelle never became SS general, but was Standartenführer, i.e. Colonel. How can one furthermore write that Degrelle was Hitler's friend when he did not meet him more that two times (and maybe only once). Thinking that Degrelle - who is furthermore known to have been a liar all his lige long - could have first hand information on Hitler's eating habits is just as ridiculous as taking Degrelle as source. --[[User:Lebob|Lebob]] ([[User talk:Lebob|talk]]) 15:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Adolf Hitler was a self-proclaimed vegetarian and had a large greenhouse built to keep him supplied with fresh fruits and vegetables throughout World War II?


Hitler's scull?

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How can tests from Hitlers scull be a thing when there is no existing remains from Hitler? The scull the russians claimed to have was not of Hitler according to subsequent analysis. This article seems misleading. 80.167.96.4 (talk) 09:09, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eiernockerl, etc

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I added information about one more Hitler myth, this one about his food preferences, but the info was deleted by Betty Logan with the following edit summary : "1) Vegetarians can eat egg dumplings ; and 2) if the claim is untrue why are we even adding it here?"

Response: Vegetarians may eat egg dumplings alright but the added information brings into relief the myth built around Hitler's dumplings, i.e. that he was fond of them, as cooked in Austria (Eiernockerl), while in fact he liked liver dumplings, which evidently no vegetarian would touch. The myth about Hitler's fondness for egg dumplings gave birth to yet another neofascist code symbol. It's entirely appropriate to include this information here since the article deals, and quite rightly too, with both fact and myth about Hitler's food habits and his ostensible vegetarianism. -The Gnome (talk) 12:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The section is dealing with his fondness for liver dumplings, which have nothing to do with egg dumplings. Rynn Berry specifically discusses liver dumplings, not egg dumplings. You are conflating the two and misrepresenting what Berry actually says. It is also not relevant to the article: it specifically addresses whether Hitler was vegetarian or not; just because a neo-Nazi started an urban legend about Hitler's favourite dish being egg dumplings does not imply anything one way or the other in relation to Hitler's vegetarianism. Betty Logan (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have added the claim onto the end of the section. I hope this will be an acceptable compromise. It is plausible that the two types of dumpling have become conflated over the years so upon reflection I think it is ok to include it, but I think it is wrong to incorporate it into Berry's claim when Berry himself is very specific that Hitler's favourite dish was liver dumplings. Betty Logan (talk) 13:58, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The information I added is, of course, not of major importance but it is important, especially due to its current, significant relevance. The way it is now presented is perfectly acceptable. As a side note, myths started about aspects of the Nazi regime by acolytes of the regime are not "urban legends," which pertains to something else entirely. -The Gnome (talk) 16:20, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Hitler's dinner" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Hitler's dinner and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 16#Hitler's dinner until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 03:21, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why no German page?

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Is there a reason this page does not exist in German? Is there really nobody willing/able to translate it to German? Or has it been tried before and was censored because "Hitler a vegetarian" would give him some touch of humanity, which would, of course, be verboten in Germany. Honest question. I'd be willing to translate it to German, but don't want to do it as wasted effort if it gets deleted anyway. Cainoom (talk) 23:05, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English WP. Any questions about the German WP should be asked there as it is a separate project with its own guidelines. MB 02:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eva Braun and cosmetics?

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I removed this statement Hitler also disapproved of cosmetics, since they contained animal by-products, and he frequently teased Eva Braun about her habit of wearing makeup.. It cited Hitler's table talks . However, I was unable to find this in the document (no page was given). The search function can be a little unreliable on this PDF. If anybody can find it, they can include it again, however I was unable to find references to cosmetics/Eva. Zenomonoz (talk) 00:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that important. The article is, essentially, about his diet. Betty Logan (talk) 07:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, thanks. Zenomonoz (talk) 11:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is an 1999 interview with the house manager of the Berghof, Herbert Döhring, posted on Youtube in 2013. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNa9X92CmvM) It is 2.5 hours long and contains many aspects of Hitler's private details. His wife was the cook at the Berghof and the interviewer askes many details about mean prep. One of those details was the meal preparation, and how the menu was discussed. Its all very interesting. start the video at 35:00. Döhring goes into detail how his wife got started cooking and ended up working for Hitler. The reason for Hitler's vegetarianism is explained starting at 38:50. Hitler suffered gas poisoning in WWI and it affected his taste ever-after:
38:48 -- Döhring, "... when the kitchen was still very small [Hitler] often went to my wife whom he always called Anna even when we were married and said 'oh Anna, I have a terrible taste again and it always returns. I have it since my gas posioning in the war. I can't smell meat and sauce.' "
39:13 -- Döhring, "That was also the reason why he switched to a vegetarian diet. I'm firmly conviced of that. Everything else that was talked and written after the war does not apply at all. His personal statements are decisive and only those are relevant." 162.206.218.8 (talk) 11:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was this study about the fake skull found by sowejt soldiers?

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An examination carried out by French scientists on a fragment of Hitler's skull in 2018 found no traces of meat fibre in the tartar on Hitler's teeth. 92.19.103.57 (talk) 18:44, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Hitler's cuisine" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Hitler's cuisine has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 24 § Hitler's cuisine until a consensus is reached. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 19:09, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Potential GA Promotion

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Is there anything that needs major improvement? Okmrman (talk) 04:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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