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this section should be removed. It links to a main page which is the article that you are already on. Redundancy at it's finest. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/134.129.144.241|134.129.144.241]] ([[User talk:134.129.144.241|talk]]) 22:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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I have restored the [[Elton John Band]] section for the time being but added a merge into Elton John tag if this section is removed part of the information should be merged into the main article. --[[User:Lloyd rm|Lloyd rm]] ([[User talk:Lloyd rm|talk]]) 14:57, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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==Genre==
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his genre should not include glam rock but instead glam pop <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.64.100.242|24.64.100.242]] ([[User talk:24.64.100.242|talk]]) 02:34, 24 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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==Vocal Range Limited Due to Drug Abuse==
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I head an interview with Elton rather recently in which he talked a bit about his vocal range limitations. He admitted that, although his well known operation was the reason for his inability to sing in falsetto, the main culprit was years of drug abuse. He warned of the seductive power of drugs, especially during particularly stressful times in our lives, and said that he's lucky he was able to return to singing at all. I think that's an important part of Elton's life, especially since it's related both to his musical career and to his history of willingness to be open about his life in order to help others. Perhaps someone with better research skills than mine can find a reference to this and add it to the article? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.126.226.142|76.126.226.142]] ([[User talk:76.126.226.142|talk]]) 21:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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==Sourcing priority==
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I am concerned that such a high profile article on a living person is so poorly sourced. It is a matter of priority that statements are sourced. See [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons]]. Quotations from Elton John or any other person must be closely cited, as per [[Wikipedia:Quotations]]. I will notify the WikiProjects listed above. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 10:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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:I got one of SilkTork's pings on the state of the article. I was surprised to see that I'm still the #1 editor by frequency, despite not having touched it for several years. The work done in 2005–2006 was long before the footnote-after-every-sentence requirement emerged, and was mostly focused on filling in chronological gaps and arguing about two alternate versions of the 1970s biographical text. I don't have the bandwidth to do much of anything on this article now, but giving it one quick read I think the article is for the most part reasonably balanced and not the BLP emergency that SilkTork seems to imply. Regardless though, a sourcing push is of course warranted. However, I see that those now doing that are mass-citing books without using page numbers, e.g. "^ abcdefghijkl His Song: The Musical Journey of Elton John, Elizabeth Rosenthal, Billboard Books, 2001". This is better than nothing, but not very good for anyone trying to validate particular statements. It would also flunk GAN/FAC immediately. I'd strongly recommend doing a little more work and citing with page numbers. [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 01:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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::The BLP concerns are that the article talked quite a lot (without sourcing) about Elton John's sexual habits, his mental health, his baldness, his eating problems, keeping pornographic photographs, etc; rather personal issues that we need to ensure are reliably sourced.
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::I agree that Wikipedia was not so concerned with sourcing a few years ago, and many of my first additions to Wikipedia are unsourced (and probably remain so!), but this isn't about blaming anyone, this is about sorting out an issue right now. Bland articles about low profile actors and poets have been deleted from Wikipedia with the support and encouragement of Jimbo simply because the one or two sentences in those articles were unsourced. This is a high profile article on a very high profile person which contains many contentious statements which are unsourced. I contend that our attention should be directed to such articles as this as a matter of urgency. People are encouraged to insert unsubstantiated gossip when they see a lot of unsourced statements. When cleaned up, it will be easier to maintain and ensure that no genuinely inappropriate statement gets inserted. Without the appropriate sourcing we don't know what is true from what is false.
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::And I agree that page numbers is needed. Without page numbers it is very hard to check the accuracy of the statement. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 10:13, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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So you bin the only section that describes Elton's ''music'', which just happens to be the most important thing about him, and leave in how much money he spends on flowers!? WTF! [[Special:Contributions/70.88.44.174|70.88.44.174]] ([[User talk:70.88.44.174|talk]]) 13:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
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:Sort of. I removed the section which had some opinion about Elton John's music, but we didn't know whose opinion it was because the material was unsourced. It could have been the opinion of a music expert, but it could also have been an opinion from a narrow focus fan website. The section opened with "In the 1970s, John's sound immediately set him apart from most others by being piano-based in a rock 'n' roll world dominated by guitars." The early 1970s was a peak period for singer-songwriters, a good number of whom played piano, such as [[Randy Newman]], [[Tom Waits]], [[Gordon Lightfoot]], [[Gilbert O'Sullivan]], etc, so the statement seems rather odd and inaccurate. It is better for us to not have any information rather than incorrect and misleading information. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 20:38, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
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::I really shouldn't get into this, but since you've banished mention of both the significance of the piano and of Paul Buckmaster from the body of the article, by your logic you should remove the mentions of them from the lead section (where they still are) as well. But the idea that the article shouldn't say anything about how the piano made Elton different from most other rock artists seems silly to me. And virtually every bio or survey of Elton talks about the effect that Buckmaster's string arrangements had on Elton's early sound. Try [http://books.google.com/books?id=eJGcZSyBflwC&pg=PA117 here] or [http://books.google.com/books?id=Bgn9SGmA4dkC&pg=PA596 here] or [http://books.google.com/books?id=haEfq-nKqjgC&pg=RA1-PA277 here] or [http://books.google.com/books?id=1wkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA44 here] or a bunch of others. Way back when I tried to add a focus on Buckmaster's importance to this article, and now there's nothing of it left. But that's the way WP works: take it off your watchlist, kiss it goodbye. [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 01:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::Just cite the sources and put it back.--[[User:Ishtar456|Ishtar456]] ([[User talk:Ishtar456|talk]]) 00:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::Thanks for the links, I'll take a look and see if they can be incorporated into the article. You could also do as Ishtar suggests, and edit the article yourself. I am not at all knowledgable about Elton John, but I am concerned that this article was (and to an extent still is) saying some strong things without appropriate sourcing. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 09:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I think the article has been both trimmed back and sourced to an extent that it is no longer a major concern in terms of inaccurate and possibly libelous statements, though it still needs a considerable amount of work to be done to make it more usefully encyclopedic and reliable. Currently it is a collection of statements about Elton John poorly organised and presented, and tending toward trivial puffery. What it needs is a bunch of people who know a bit about Elton John to spend some time working on it so that it does become a useful reference guide of the important highlights of his life. We don't need (or want) to know everything - just the important stuff. I am taking this off my watchlist, but I will pop back now and again to see how it is developing. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 12:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

==Religion==
Religious skeptic? could we get a quote, is he an atheist? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.17.163.70|174.17.163.70]] ([[User talk:174.17.163.70|talk]]) 10:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I don't know to be honest if he is or isn't, but it would seem rather bizarre for a religious skeptic to wear such a large Christian cross as Elton does in the picture on his main page if he is, that's not to say he is or isn't though <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.45.128.254|86.45.128.254]] ([[User talk:86.45.128.254|talk]]) 17:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

More info. needed on how his gay lifestyle and position as a gay parent go against Christian values and teachings. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.218.71.183|121.218.71.183]] ([[User talk:121.218.71.183|talk]]) 05:55, 28 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Why? I do not think his "gay lifestyle" goes against Christian teaching at all. Perhaps only against the teaching of some "Christian" groups. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/165.228.5.61|165.228.5.61]] ([[User talk:165.228.5.61|talk]]) 05:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

IT'S A SIN!!! REMEMBER SODOM AND GOMORRAH???? HOW CAN ANYONE CONDONE THIS???? HE WILL BURN IN HELL IF HE DOESN'T REPENT, so no,he's obviusly, NOT a Christian, because he doesn't live the Christ life!!!!! You turn gay, then say you're religious? Yeah, right!! NO CHRISTIANS ARE GAY- YOU CAN NOT BE!!!!!! LOOK IT UP THE BIBLE SAYS SO- YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOR YOUR SINS!!!!!! REPENT AND DO WHAT GOD MADE YOU FOR- A WOMAN AND A MAN, NOT A MAN AND A MAN!!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.220.95.238|76.220.95.238]] ([[User talk:76.220.95.238|talk]]) 02:19, 23 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: So much for an unbiased, neutral opinion. [[User:Salvidrim|Salvidrim]] ([[User talk:Salvidrim|talk]]) 02:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

:: I would like to note that having read the entire New Testament more times than I care to count, I am unable to find in it any text where Jesus condemns homosexuality. [[User:Carmaskid|Carmaskid]] ([[User talk:Carmaskid|talk]]) 05:52, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request from 122.108.146.58, 17 May 2010 ==

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You could (and probably won't, haha) change the headline of the discography section of this article to "The Greatest Discography", in reference to the Elton John song, "The Greatest Discovery" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Discovery) from the album, "Elton John" (1970) [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elton_John_(album)].

As most people looking at the page will be fans, they would understand the reference. And also, the word "discography" is still there so even if you didn't get it, you'd still be able to find this section.

Alternatively, you could change the name of the main article: "Elton John Discography" to "The Greatest Discography" with "Elton John Discography" redirecting there.

Anyway! Thanks a bunch. :))))) I've always loved your work, wiki staff. Love it. :)
Jeremy LR Smith.

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[[Special:Contributions/122.108.146.58|122.108.146.58]] ([[User talk:122.108.146.58|talk]]) 06:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, but no - that wouldn't be appropriate, because it would not be a [[WP:NPOV|neutral]] heading. We remain factual and to a certain extent 'boring' in our editorial content - the guidelines on titles of sections (and many other matters) are in [[Wikipedia:MOSHEAD]]. Similarly for the title - the article [[Elton John discography]] is a discography of the chap, and changing the title may lead to confusion. I hope you understand.

:I suggest you [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|get an account]], then you can help us improve articles. If you have any questions at all, do not hesitate to ask me on [[user talk:Chzz|my talk page]]. Best, <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 08:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Edit request from 93.0.136.183, 19 May 2010 ==

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One french sentence is incorrect : it's not "Le Presbytere N'a Rien Perdu De Son Charme Ni Le Jardin Du Son Éclat" but instead "Le Presbytère N'a Rien Perdu De Son Charme Ni Le Jardin De Son Éclat" ; it's also the exact (and correct !) title of this show.

Thanks,

Marc

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:{{done}} [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 16:04, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== [Category:Gay musicians] ==

Elton John was homosexual, and was a musician, so I believe he should be added to the Gay Musicians Category. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Crisy20|Crisy20]] ([[User talk:Crisy20|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Crisy20|contribs]]) 13:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Elton John's sexual orientation doesn't change the fact that his music relates to everyone, gay or or otherwise. just because he's gay doesn't mean i should look for a son in the gay listing. Just like it is in life there are homosexuals in all forms of the arts. Life shouldn't be pigeon holed into gay or strait, black or white, Catholic or Mormon... etc. Lets just enjoy what comes our way. TwoTripn Dec. 1, 2010

::The category was deleted last month. [[User:Jim Michael|Jim Michael]] ([[User talk:Jim Michael|talk]]) 08:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== 2010 concert ==

His concert in which he performed with Leon Russel in support of their new CD "The Union" which was broadcasted on FUSE and FUSE HD (a music channel) on October 19, 2010 at New York Cities Beacon Theater. Both sang their individual songs hits as well as the complete abulm. They later performed some songs the following morning (October 20th, 2010) for the ABC networks Good Morning America. As more people see the special we could add the songs performed and expand this page, the show will be on repeat this week.--Cooly123 11:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Married ==
He is in a civil partnership with [[David Furnish]], a fact which is in the info box of David but it isn't in Elton John's info box. Nor is it mentioned in the summary of his life at the top of the page. Considering this is a rather significant fact about him you'd think the info would be more prominent than it is. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.102.116.66|77.102.116.66]] ([[User talk:77.102.116.66|talk]]) 21:28, 30 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The civil partnership is mentioned in the lead of this article. It is not in the infobox because it is not a field in the [[Template:Infobox musical artist|musical artist infobox]]. [[David Furnish|Furnish's article]] uses the [[Template:Infobox person| person infobox]], which includes spouse as a field, hence it is included there. [[User:Jim Michael|Jim Michael]] ([[User talk:Jim Michael|talk]]) 08:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

::This title is incorrect. In the past thousand years of UK law, and as of current UK law, Elton is in a civil partnership. Marriage is in the UK between a woman and a man, hence it is impossible for Elton to marry and why it is impossible that this title should be tolerated. This is no comment on his situation, purely a fact. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/93.96.221.208|93.96.221.208]] ([[User talk:93.96.221.208|talk]]) 02:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::Depending on the laws in your locality, marriage can be between two persons of any gender. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.151.28.222|99.151.28.222]] ([[User talk:99.151.28.222|talk]]) 19:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== The Union ==

It would be nice to note that ''The Union'' debuted at #3 on the Billboard album chart, the first time Elton has done that since 1976's ''Blue Moves''. So much for not making "pop records"! [[User:Howieroarke|Howieroarke]] ([[User talk:Howieroarke|talk]]) 21:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

== Elton John and Lady Gaga ==

Elton also associated with Lady Gaga right? But it isnt included in his infobox..

:Do you have any kinda of source? [[User:Salvidrim|Salvidrim]] ([[User talk:Salvidrim|talk]]) 02:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

::Elton and Lady Gaga recorded a duet for the movie Gnomeo and Juliet. It was in the movie, but not released on the soundtrack. http://www.billboard.com/news/lady-gaga-elton-john-duet-won-t-appear-on-1005017032.story#/news/lady-gaga-elton-john-duet-won-t-appear-on-1005017032.story Elton also performed with Lady Gaga on the 2010 Grammys http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/25/elton-john-lady-gaga-duet [[User:Accurastic|Accurastic]] ([[User talk:Accurastic|talk]]) 19:24, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

== Live with Regis/Kelly ==

Something to add to "2010s" section after the portion about the new album with Leon (several sources can be found doing a web search; ie. from the actual show, Elton's blog, etc.): Elton and Leon Russell performed songs to promote their new album (The Union) on Live with Regis & Kelly on Thanksgiving Eve (11.24.10). [http://abcdgrowth.com/tv-shows/live-with-regis-and-kelly/colin-firth-michael-eisner-elton-john-leon-russell-live-with-regis-and-kelly-24-nov-2010.html] Songs performed on the show were: "When Love is Dying" and "Never Too Old (To Hold Somebody)". [[Special:Contributions/63.131.4.149|63.131.4.149]] ([[User talk:63.131.4.149|talk]]) 14:50, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request from Xpto1318, 11 December 2010 ==

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elton has won 6 grammys, instead of 5 - he as won the GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD in 2001

{{ESp|d}} I changed the numbers to 6, and added the award to the Grammy List (with 1999, the correct year as you note below). [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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[[User:Xpto1318|Xpto1318]] ([[User talk:Xpto1318|talk]]) 18:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

== Elton John has won 6 grammys! Not 5 ==

Elton John has won 6 Grammys instead of 5, has it is said in the article. He as won the GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD in 1999 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xpto1318|Xpto1318]] ([[User talk:Xpto1318|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xpto1318|contribs]]) 18:35, 11 December 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Done, see above

== Uh, glasses? ==

Over 14,000 words in this article and not one of them is glasses or frame. WTF? Elton John has something like 40,000 different frames. Its his signature. -- [[User:Suso|Suso]] ([[User talk:Suso|talk]]) 02:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

==Unnatural predisposition (C4P)==
Just to be clear, I meant baldness! [[User:IMeantBaldness|IMeantBaldness]] ([[User talk:IMeantBaldness|talk]]) 14:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

==Factual error==
Who Wrote that elton john is dead? because this article is the only place that says that he is <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/110.175.9.128|110.175.9.128]] ([[User talk:110.175.9.128|talk]]) 23:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It was vandalism, which has now been removed. [[User:Jim Michael|Jim Michael]] ([[User talk:Jim Michael|talk]]) 20:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

== Great songwriting example ==

Maybe this can be used:
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxlDya8o6VM&feature=related] --[[User:Leahtwosaints|Leahtwosaints]] ([[User talk:Leahtwosaints|talk]]) 22:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

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I would like to request a addition to the "Personal Life" section. Recently Sir Elton John and his partner appeared in the news with their new son which sparked much controversy. The following is a summary of the news events that took place early this year:

:"In early 2011, a U.S supermarket, Harps Food store, covered a family portrait of Elton John, his partner David Furnish and their new son Zachary on the cover of “US weekly” in a bid to “protect” shoppers. A local resident came across the “family shield” and was so surprised she uploaded a picture onto her Twitter account. The controversy sparked an investigation by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation.

Spokespersons for the company say that the shield was put in place as a reaction to "several" customer complaints at that particular store. The corporate office then evaluated the situation and made a decision to remove the shield and allow the magazine to the displayed as is. They also made it clear this situation in no way reflects their own views and has since issued an apology. "

Thank you for your consideration.<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kimk16|Kimk16]] ([[User talk:Kimk16|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kimk16|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:{{ESp|n}} Please provide a reference for the changes you wish to make. Even with a reliable source for this, I'm not sure it would merit mention in an encyclopedia. -[[User:Atmoz|Atmoz]] ([[User talk:Atmoz|talk]]) 21:01, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


References: http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2011/01/27/17050656.html
http://www.styleite.com/media/elton-john-us-weekly-cover-censored/
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2011/01/27/arkansas_store_censors_elton_john_us_w <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kimk16|Kimk16]] ([[User talk:Kimk16|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kimk16|contribs]]) 18:08, 12 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Elton won the Grammy for Best Musical Show (Aida) in 2001, not in 2000 ==

I guess the tilte says it all. Sir Elton John won the Grammy Award for Best Musical Show, the Aida musical, in 2001. In the page says it was in 2000, it is incorrect. Please change it. Thank you <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xpto1318|Xpto1318]] ([[User talk:Xpto1318|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xpto1318|contribs]]) 00:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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As per [[Grammy Award for Best Musical Show Album]], it is 2001. [[User:Salvidrim|Salvidrim]] ([[User talk:Salvidrim|talk]]) 02:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

== Is he actually entitled to be called "Sir"? ==

The rank he was awarder in the [[Order of the British Empire]] is "commander" (CBE), which is not a [[knighthood]] and does not allow the use of the prefix "Sir" in his name. [[User:Tdunsky|Tdunsky]] ([[User talk:Tdunsky|talk]]) 19:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
:Also, it seems that the reference provided for the award, being only a single page from the London Gazette (Supplement), without any heading, does not provide adequate support for any title? [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 19:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
:: Is that a statement or a question? In any case, I agree that it's separated from what makes it a good source. It is nevertheless the gazettal of his CBE in 1995.
:: You're confusing two things: his title, and his postnominal letters. Sometimes these are related. In EJ's case, they're not.
::* He was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire in 1995. That gave him the postnominal CBE, but no title.
::* He was made a Knight Bachelor in 1998. That gave him the title of Sir, but no additional postnominals (because Knight Bachelor does not come with a postnominal).
:: It is perfectly correct to call him Sir Elton John. In formal contexts, it would be Sir Elton John CBE. -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<font face="Papyrus">[your turn]</font>]] 10:46, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

:::Many thanks for the explanation. I was trying to suggest, in my question, that as it stands the Gazette page is not a good source. There is no evidence of the award title - it could be a list of any awards, only the date is direct support. There is already a source for the knighthood, although would the London Gazette be better? (thats a question). But I think the existing one for the CBE could be better (that's a statement). [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 11:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
:::: Agree. It's from the right document, it just needs to show more of it to reveal which document it's from. -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<font face="Papyrus">[your turn]</font>]] 19:49, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

==Religious skepticism==
The article talks about his sexuality, and even mentions his alcoholism, but his religion beliefs -or lack thereof- is only in a category with "Religious skeptics". Most of the people with that category, [[Mark Twain]] for instance, goes into more detail. But there's nothing on it on the actual article. [[User:TheListUpdater|TheListUpdater]] ([[User talk:TheListUpdater|talk]]) 23:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

== Tantrums & Tiaras ==

Add ''[[Elton John: Tantrums & Tiaras]]'' under "Films" &/or "1990-1999" section (or reference in "2000-present" [2008] when it was released on dvd, although filmed from 1995 with exception of John's/Furnish's commentary). This "documentary" film takes a look at his tour, awards, album and personal life during the mid-to-late 90s, including his hatred for making videos which is why he doesn't appear in videos anymore, the death of his grandmother, his relationship with his partner, his mother and other additional footage of his music career and collaborations in 1995.[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124158/][http://www.amazon.com/Elton-John-Tantrums-Tiaras/dp/B001GM6C3K] Also, ''[[The Big Picture (Elton John album)|The Big Picture]]'' isn't mentioned in the "1990-1999" section (aka "The '90s"). It is listed in discography however, but overlooked when the "Candle in the Wind" (1997) is mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/67.52.24.141|67.52.24.141]] ([[User talk:67.52.24.141|talk]]) 12:51, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

==SNL==
Elton John made an appearance on [[Saturday Night Live]]. Can someone mention that? Peace and love, [[User:Bradymonty|Bradymonty]] ([[User talk:Bradymonty|talk]]) 01:39, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Link to "Knighthood" ==

In the third sentence: "''John received a knighthood from...''", Knighthood directs literally and will bring you to the "[[Knight]]" page. This link should be changed to instead go to "[[Orders,_decorations,_and_medals_of_the_United_Kingdom#Knighthood]]". Unfortunately I cannot do it myself, as I am a new user and the page is semi-protected... [[User:Itskafei|Itskafei]] ([[User talk:Itskafei|talk]]) 19:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

{{done}} Already done when I checked. [[User:Salvidrim|Salvidrim]] ([[User talk:Salvidrim|talk]]) 02:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

== Activism section ==

I can't edit, so can someone please fix this line:

"The campaign is to bring straight people to stand up with the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered community and stop the discrimination."

"Transgender" doesn't have an "ed" on the end. It's always just "transgender." [[Special:Contributions/174.58.138.200|174.58.138.200]] ([[User talk:174.58.138.200|talk]]) 19:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

:In this case I would say it is used as an adjective to describe the noun "community", thus would be correct, but I'm no grammar genius. [[User:Salvidrim|Salvidrim]] ([[User talk:Salvidrim|talk]]) 02:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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== Edit request ==

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The merge tag for [[Elton John Band]] has been there for well over six months. Please tip the entirity of [[Elton John Band]] into [[Elton John#Elton John Band]] or temporarily unprotect the page so I can. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.204.123.40|90.204.123.40]] ([[User talk:90.204.123.40|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->
:Hello?--[[Special:Contributions/94.0.97.40|94.0.97.40]] ([[User talk:94.0.97.40|talk]]) 11:47, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

{{EP|d}}: Redirected [[Elton John Band]] to [[Elton John]]. — [[User:Status|<font color="000">''Status''</font>]] &#x7B;<sup>[[User talk:Status|talk]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-3.5ex;">[[Special:Contributions/Status|contribs]]</sub>&nbsp; 09:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

:: The idea was to merge [[Elton John Band]] into [[Elton John]], not delete the material altogether. I've restored the [[Elton John#Elton John Band]] section and moved the content there. [[User:Prayer for the wild at heart|Prayer for the wild at heart]] ([[User talk:Prayer for the wild at heart|talk]]) 13:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

== Edit Request ==

{{tn|edit semi-protected}} In the sectioned titled 'The 90s: "Sacrifice" to Aida (1990–1999)', there is some incorrect information. Specifically, the line: 'The following year, he released Duets, a collaboration with 15 artists including Tammy Wynette and RuPaul. This also included a new collaboration with Kiki Dee, entitled "True Love", which reached the Top 10 of the UK charts, and a duet with Eric Clapton on "Runaway Train", which also charted.[55]'

The song 'Runaway Train' does not appear at all on the 1993 album 'Duets'. It can only be found on the 1992 album 'The One'. The portion of the sentence mentioning 'Runaway Train' in relation to Duets should be deleted, or at least moved to an earlier part of the paragraph where 'The One' is discussed.

This is easily verified by looking up the wiki articles for both Duets and The one.

:Please supply a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for requests like this, and re-request. Wikipedia itself is NOT a reliable source. Thanks. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 00:57, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
:Later correction: I've removed the text {{xt|, and a duet with [[Eric Clapton]] on "Runaway Train", which also charted}} from the sentence - sorry, I see what you mean (that it wasn't on that album). Maybe it should be added elsewhere (with a suitable reference). <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:07, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request from an IP user, 29 October 2011 ==

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Please replace {{tld|Kennedy Center Honorees}} with {{tld|2004 Kennedy Center Honorees}}, which is more specific and not so incredibly large in size.
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[[Special:Contributions/64.134.125.128|64.134.125.128]] ([[User talk:64.134.125.128|talk]]) 17:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
: Okay, seems non-controversial. Thanks! [[User:Plastikspork|Plastikspork]] [[User talk:Plastikspork|<sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ</sub><sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)</sup>]] 01:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

== Wikiproject LGBT studies ==

I'm glad that the Wikiproject LGBT studies didn't edit this article.
I'm pro LGBT especially the transgender recognition fight but what they are doing is not good.
Elton is an activist and he is the one who is supposed to say what does he think and not be co-opted by a so called "studies project".
They did a terrible work at Cassia Eller's biography because as Cassia is Brazilian there is not too much to search.
Sorry to be discussing it here.
Maybe Wikipedia should have Gender as a feature at the right box with the descriptions of the person. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Justana|Justana]] ([[User talk:Justana|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Justana|contribs]]) 08:22, 1 November 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Photo change ==
== Edit request on 8 December 2011 ==


can the photo be changed, the current one just looks a bit awkward and unnatural. I think [[:File:Elton John 2023.jpg|this]] one feels a bit more natural. [[User:Mewhen123|Mewhen123]] ([[User talk:Mewhen123|talk]]) 19:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please change the description of Elton's visit to the USSR. He was NOT the first western pop star to tour that country. Cliff Richard opened in Leningrad on August 16, 1976, going on to play 12 concerts over 10 days in that city. He then moved to Moscow, beginning his run there on August 28 and playing eight concerts over six days.
Thankyou


:The 2023 Glastonbury photo was used in the infobox a while back, as was the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20240320SM2925_(Elton_John_2024_Gershwin_Prize_for_Popular_Song_portrait_crop).jpg 2024 Gershwin Prize] photo. I'm not too bothered about which one to use, but there should be a consensus.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 13:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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[[Special:Contributions/86.166.13.173|86.166.13.173]] ([[User talk:86.166.13.173|talk]]) 13:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


== Eyesight ==
* - {{done}} - changed .. the first.. to ... '''one of the first''' .. as per edit request on talk and search returns and some wiki returns such as detail in [[1976 in music]] - [[User:Youreallycan|Youreallycan]] ([[User talk:Youreallycan|talk]]) 16:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


Where is the best location for this? I added it as a separate topic, not realising it was already present in the "Other" sub-section of "Personal life". I think it's a bit hidden there. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 19:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
== Edit request on 8 December 2011 ==


:Should this be mentioned in the lead section? [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 22:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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Please change "In 1979, accompanied by Ray Cooper, John became the first Western solo artist to tour the Soviet Union (as well as one of the first in Israel), then mounted a two-man comeback tour of the US in small halls."
to "In 1979, accompanied by Ray Cooper, John became one of the few Western artists to tour the Soviet Union (as well as one of the first in Israel), then mounted a two-man comeback tour of the US in small halls.
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[[Special:Contributions/86.166.13.173|86.166.13.173]] ([[User talk:86.166.13.173|talk]]) 13:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


::I think a light mention in the lead and then a detailed section in the body is fine. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 22:36, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
* - This seems a duplicated request of the above post, only with more detail (which is always a good idea for an edit request) which I have completed. Thanks - [[User:Youreallycan|Youreallycan]] ([[User talk:Youreallycan|talk]]) 16:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


:::Or instead of a section, it can go in personal life section. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:FlightTime|<span style="color:#800000">'''FlightTime'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:FlightTime|<span style="color:#1C0978">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 22:41, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
== Adult contemporary? ==
:@[[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] Sources say he's healing and "there's hope", so it could be only temporary and not a significant event worth mentioning in the lead. He's 77, health issues that become protracted aren't unusual. I'd say it's only worth a mention if it turns out to be permanent. [[User:Escape_Orbit|<span style="color: green;">Escape Orbit</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Escape_Orbit|(Talk)]]</sup> 22:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
::It's not suitable for the lead because it has some problems with [[WP:NOTNEWS]]. It's ok later on in the article.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
:::OK. I'll try to keep an eye on it. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 08:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Some might argue that the 2024 premiere of the musical "[[The Devil Wears Prada (musical)|The Devil Wears Prada]]", at the [[Dominion Theatre]] in London, is quite a public venue to announce that one has lost one's vision? But I guess "[[There's No Business Like Show Business|that's showbiz]]", folks! [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 19:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)


== ‘Clean’ from addiction ==
Isn't E.J. Adult contemporary also? Because of the very touching songs, just like "Can you feel the love tonight?"? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.181.235.45|82.181.235.45]] ([[User talk:82.181.235.45|talk]]) 21:21, 27 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


The word clean is not used anymore to describe someone who is drug free, as it suggests that drug addiction (and the addict themselves) is dirty. In substance misuse we simply use abstinent from drugs (or in this case, drugs and alcohol). Or sober would work for both too. [[Special:Contributions/86.22.150.89|86.22.150.89]] ([[User talk:86.22.150.89|talk]]) 21:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
== Candle In The Wind 97 ==


== Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2024 ==
This song was actually performed TWICE.
Elton John performed it at the funeral, and then again on a BBC show hosted by Sir Terry Wogan (NOT The Wogan Show the following Monday evening.. and it was after the second performnace that he vowed never to perform that version again.


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Thanks!
A reference included in the section ''[[Elton John#1962–1969: Pub pianist to staff songwriter|§ 1962–1969: Pub pianist to staff songwriter]]'' cites a ''[[The Late Show with Stephen Colbert|Late Show]]'' segment entitled 'Elton John Takes Stephen Through His Entire Catalogue.' All the details of the reference are correct (date, timestamp, and relevance to the article material it supports), but both the original and archived links erroneously point to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nblf7Yw4jys an unrelated segment] on ''[[The Late Late Show with James Corden]]''. The links should be corrected to point to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHjxxMJLaQ4 the correct YouTube video] instead. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/104.246.217.149|104.246.217.149]] ([[User talk:104.246.217.149|talk]]) 10:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} Link now corrected, but not yet archived. Many thanks. [[User:Martinevans123|Martinevans123]] ([[User talk:Martinevans123|talk]]) 10:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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Photo change

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can the photo be changed, the current one just looks a bit awkward and unnatural. I think this one feels a bit more natural. Mewhen123 (talk) 19:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2023 Glastonbury photo was used in the infobox a while back, as was the 2024 Gershwin Prize photo. I'm not too bothered about which one to use, but there should be a consensus.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eyesight

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Where is the best location for this? I added it as a separate topic, not realising it was already present in the "Other" sub-section of "Personal life". I think it's a bit hidden there. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:20, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be mentioned in the lead section? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think a light mention in the lead and then a detailed section in the body is fine. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:36, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or instead of a section, it can go in personal life section. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:41, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Martinevans123 Sources say he's healing and "there's hope", so it could be only temporary and not a significant event worth mentioning in the lead. He's 77, health issues that become protracted aren't unusual. I'd say it's only worth a mention if it turns out to be permanent. Escape Orbit (Talk) 22:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not suitable for the lead because it has some problems with WP:NOTNEWS. It's ok later on in the article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I'll try to keep an eye on it. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some might argue that the 2024 premiere of the musical "The Devil Wears Prada", at the Dominion Theatre in London, is quite a public venue to announce that one has lost one's vision? But I guess "that's showbiz", folks! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‘Clean’ from addiction

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The word clean is not used anymore to describe someone who is drug free, as it suggests that drug addiction (and the addict themselves) is dirty. In substance misuse we simply use abstinent from drugs (or in this case, drugs and alcohol). Or sober would work for both too. 86.22.150.89 (talk) 21:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2024

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A reference included in the section § 1962–1969: Pub pianist to staff songwriter cites a Late Show segment entitled 'Elton John Takes Stephen Through His Entire Catalogue.' All the details of the reference are correct (date, timestamp, and relevance to the article material it supports), but both the original and archived links erroneously point to an unrelated segment on The Late Late Show with James Corden. The links should be corrected to point to the correct YouTube video instead. Thank you. 104.246.217.149 (talk) 10:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Link now corrected, but not yet archived. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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