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==Is this you?== |
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Hello there, thanks for participating in editing [[List of tallest buildings in the world]]. Is this IP [[Special:Contributions/114.229.252.36]] also you? You seem to be making the same edits and come from the same IP range. I hope you would register an account so that we can have a coherent discussion about the article's content. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 21:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_tallest_buildings_in_the_world&action=historysubmit&diff=477077803&oldid=477077377] Everyone? The article [[country]] does not seem to agree. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 21:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=|link=]] Your recent editing history at [[:List of tallest buildings in the world]] shows that you are in danger of breaking the [[WP:3RR|three-revert rule]], or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. '''Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a [[WP:BLOCK|block]].''' |
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:''The reason the user Deryck Chan is bringing this to issue is that [[Hong Kong]] by itself is not a country. If you look at the list of buildings the category specifically states "Country" and each other building is listed under it's parent country and not for example "Houston, Texas" which would be equivalent to "Hong Kong" by itself which is just a [[Special Administrative Region]] of [[China]]. The category listing specifically states "Country" and following the convention of the other countries listed, Hong Kong should be listed under it's parent country of [[China]]. Although listing it as Hong Kong, China would also be acceptable. [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187|talk]]) 21:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC)'' |
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::No, the reason I took it to the noticeboard is that you (or someone with the IP 114.229.252.36 if that really isn't you) are rather insistent on the addition, and have exceeded [[WP:3RR]]. For starters, the list did not have "China" behind "Hong Kong" before you started the edit war. Also, the dispute resolution noticeboard is not an appropriate place to discuss the issue, please do so on the article's talk page instead. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 22:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region of China, it is NOT a country and as such it must be listed under it's parent country in the list of countries on this article. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 22:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:I disagree. With all due respect [[country]] isn't necessarily defined as such, and Hong Kong is often listed as a separate country on international bodies for the sake of disambiguation because of separate jurisdiction, customs and border. Anyway I've requested third-party input to look at the issue. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 22:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::That is just your personal opinion, here on Wikipedia we are concerned with accurate facts. If we are to follow your strange form of logic, then would buildings located in [[Houston]] be labeled under your thinking as [[Houston]] or maybe [[Houston]], [[Texas]] all of which would be inaccurate. The buildings located in [[Houston]] are all labeled under the country category as being in the [[United States]]. And as such [[Hong Kong]] is a [[Special Administrative Region]] of [[China]], not a country by itself. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 22:19, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::As [[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]] also stated, the link to [[Hong Kong]] will give them the detail they need, should they ever be confused. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 22:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::Unfortunately that is not sufficient, as stated before the category is country and Hong Kong is the only the city on this article that is being mislabeled as a "Country" when it should be properly labeled under Hong Kong's parent country of [[China]]. [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 22:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::::I guess we simply have to disagree on what a [[country]] should entail. Anyway you also need to convince the numerous other editors who reverted your edit if you insist on adding China after all instance of Hong Kong. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 22:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::Actually the definition of a country is firmly set, it is you that is trying to play around with semantics and warp the word "country" to fit Hong Kong when in reality, as stated multiple times before, is just a regional territory, a [[Special Administrative Region]] of the {{flagicon|PRC}} [[People's Republic of China|People's Republic of China (PRC)]]. All articles are being improved to make sure they are as accurate as possible and it is not accurate to label Hong Kong as a country despite the fact that it has autonomous privileges granted to them by their parent country of the [[People's Republic of China]]. The category in this article specifically states "Country" and Hong Kong is just a city within the country of [[China]], indisputable. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 22:42, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::Wikipedia is a work built on [[WP:consensus]], not sweeping claims of "truth" as individual editors see it. We are all entitled to our own opinion on what truth is, but that doesn't mean we can push other editors who disagree out of the way. See [[Wikipedia:Truth]]. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 22:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::::Yes, the consensus is that Hong Kong is NOT a country and only a Special Administrative Region of China. You are the one pushing your personal opinions and illogical fantasy that Hong Kong is somehow a "Country." You just keep dreaming because that is not reality and will never happen. Hong Kong will always just be a territory and city of the country of [[China]]. Face the true facts! You might as well go read the article about [[Hong Kong]] here and educate yourself about it's true status as a [[Special Administrative Region]] of [[China]]. [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 22:58, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::The article on [[Hong Kong]]? I [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hong_Kong&offset=20070318061028&limit=500&action=history wrote it] (along with many other dedicated editors). Practise what you preach and face the true facts before you make [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]]. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 23:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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[[User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900">'''Ks0stm'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Email|E]])</sup> 23:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Let's gear this conversation down and let it chill for a while...we don't need further issues out of this dispute. I suggest letting it rest for a while. [[User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900">'''Ks0stm'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Email|E]])</sup> 23:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::If you understand that [[Hong Kong]] is a [[Special Administrative Region]] of [[China]], then stop claiming that it is a country! It seems you are from Hong Kong, well, you are part of us in China now, face the facts! Hong Kong is not an independent country! You are given privileges of autonomy because your government submits to the rule of the [[Communist Party of China]], so stop trying to put false information on this article and submit to the indisputable fact: Hong Kong is NOT a Country, it is just a part of [[China]]!!!! :) [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 23:07, 15 February 201 |
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::::::And you I would suggest chill from feeding the flames unless you want me revoking your talk page access. [[User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900">'''Ks0stm'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Email|E]])</sup> 23:10, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Are you threatening my [[Freedom of Speech]], what, so Wikipedia is now controlled by this gang of yours??? Stop threatening me and contribute positively to our discussion. You know very well that I'm right, Hong Kong is NOT a country and only a territory of China so we need to revise the article to reflect reality. [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 23:14, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:I couldn't care less about whether Hong Kong is a country or not, I just want y'all to behave if you're going to discuss it. There's no need to get all up and riled about it, just stay calm and disengage if you're getting angry...it won't hurt the discussion any to drop it and pick it up later on when you've calmed down. [[User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900">'''Ks0stm'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Email|E]])</sup> 23:17, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Why don't you go threaten user [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] for spreading erroneous lies that "[[Hong Kong]] is country" or is he one of your friends, perhaps a member of your gang that you are trying to protect. Everyone here on Wikipedia can see what you doing, you will be held liable for misconduct and misusage of your Wikipedia privileges if you continue protecting someone who is obviously pushing a false point of view, that Hong Kong is a "Country" when it is not! [[Special:Contributions/114.229.251.187|114.229.251.187]] ([[User talk:114.229.251.187#top|talk]]) 23:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== February 2012 == |
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<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=|link=]] You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''48 hours''' for [[WP:Edit warring|edit warring]]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you would like to be unblocked, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|appeal this block]] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx" argument. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}, but you should read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] first.<p>During a dispute, you should first try to [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|discuss controversial changes]] and seek [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]]. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request [[Wikipedia:Page protection|page protection]]. [[User:Ks0stm|<font color="009900">'''Ks0stm'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Ks0stm|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ks0stm|C]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Guestbook|G]]•[[User:Ks0stm/Email|E]])</sup> 22:17, 15 February 2012 (UTC)</p></div><!-- Template:uw-ewblock --> |
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