Talk:Assessment of suicide risk

Introduction

the introductory paragraphy, which refers to the research/recommendations of an individual author (Cutliffe) needs to be re-written in the interest of objectivity-- unless Cutliffe is the pre-eminent authority on all things related to suicide risk assessment, in which case that needs to be stated. while this style of writing is considered appropriate in most kinds of academic writing, it is not appropriate for intro to enclyopedia article. (will edit when time provides). Rasko99 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC).

Please update your references as they are incomplete/incorrect. You have many cases where you have specified the author and year but nothing else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.112.78 (talk) 15:29, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Article Evaluation

• New term is completing suicide
• "imminent risk of suicide"?
• Instead of just stating "...intrusion into patients' civil liberties" it may be better to explain what is at risk of being taken away if the patient discloses imminent risk of suicide. This will be different for children as opposed to adults.
• reference number three is almost 30 years old and should be updated to include the most accurate and up to date information about suicide assessment.
• There is no explanation of why we should "abandon suicide risk assessment" other than it is "inaccurate". This should be expanded to include why and statistics about it being inaccurate.
• It is important to discuss the suicidal thoughts with the client and help keep them safe. The article leans in a direction that suicide assessment is not good and should be avoided.
• Citation 6 is not full
• "On a clinical and individual level the LOI is not practical" - this needs to have a citation following it. This seems like an opinion. Same with "suicidal people aren't rational..." this doesn't seem appropriate.
• There are several neurological statements in the article that don't have anything to do with the rest of the section. Please consider removing these (since they do not have a citation) or moving to another section of the article
• "the constant thread is depression and stress" citation is needed here
• "The more detailed and specific the suicide plan, the greater the level of risk" citation needed
• "Depressed people" - people who have a diagnosis of depression
• This article has a lot of issues with not using proper terms to not stigmatize people who suffer from a mental health disorder, bias in the introductory paragraph about suicide assessment, lack of appropriate citation, and random neurological information with no sources cited at all.

Kayleighwatters (talk) 23:04, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Re-started

I've re-started this article with a new structure. If you want to contribute, here are some articles you can look at.

Herbert Hendin 1992 The psychodynamics of suicide International Review of PsychiatryVolume 4, Issue 2 , pages 157 - 167 DOI: 10.3109/09540269209066313

Nadine J. Kaslow Susan Riviere Suan Chance et al 1998 An Empirical Study of the Psychodynamics of Suicide Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, Vol. 46, No. 3, 777-796 DOI: 10.1177/00030651980460030701

N. Heim D. Lester 1975 Do suicides who write notes differ from those who do not? A study of suicides in West Berlin Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica Volume 82 Issue 5, Pages 372 - 373 DOI 10.1111/j.1600-0447.1990.tb01403.x

BC Youth suicide guidelines Ashworth, Joanna (2001). Practice principles : a guide for mental health clinicians working with suicidal children and youth (PDF). British Columbia. Ministry of Children and Family Development. ISBN 0-7726-4567-1. Retrieved 2008-08-02.

Do SSRIs cause suicide in children? The evidence is underwhelming (p 235-241) John Michael Bostwick Published Online: Dec 9 2005 7:40PM DOI: 10.1002/jclp.20226

Fawcett J, Scheftner WA, Fogg L, et al: Time-related predictors of suicide in major affective disorder. Am J Psychiatry 147:1189–94, 1990

Harris EC, Barraclough B: Suicide as an outcome for mental disorders: a meta-analysis. Br J Psychiatry 170:205–28, 1997

Warman DM, Forman E, Henriques GR, et al: Suicidality and psychosis: beyond depression and hopelessness. Suicide Life Threat Behav 34:77–99, 2003

Suicide Risk Assessment: Is Clinical Experience Enough? Robert I. Simon, MD J Am Acad Psychiatry Law 34:276–8, 2006

Linehan MM, Goodstein JL, Nielsen SL, et al: Reasons for staying alive when you are thinking of killing yourself: the reasons for living inventory. J Consult Clin Psychol 51:276–86, 1983

Mitchell AJ, Dennis M; Self harm and attempted suicide in adults: 10 practical questions and answers for emergency department staff.; Emerg Med J. 2006 Apr;23(4):251-5.

Suominen K, Isometsa E, Ostamo A, et al; Level of suicidal intent predicts overall mortality and suicide after attempted suicide: a 12-year follow-up study.; BMC Psychiatry. 2004 Apr 20;4:11.

Harriss L, Hawton K, Zahl D; Value of measuring suicidal intent in the assessment of people attending hospital following self-poisoning or self-injury.; Br J Psychiatry. 2005 Jan;186:60-6

Mehlum L. Suicidal behaviour and personality disorder. Current Opinion in Psychiatry, 2001; 14(2):131-135.

Paris JC. Chronic suicidality among patients with borderline personality disorder. Psychiatric Services, 2002; 53:738-742.

K Hawton, K van Heeringen, eds. The international handbook of suicide and attempted suicide. Chichester: Wiley & Sons Publishers, 2000.

Goldacre M, Seagroatt V, Hawton K. Suicide after discharge from psychiatric in-patient care. The Lancet, 1993; 342:283-286.

http://www.med.umich.edu/depression/suicide_assessment/

Very useful: http://library.sprc.org/

I've made minor grammatical changes throughout your article that needed to be fixed. Additionally, I think that some of your section could use a significant amount of work such as: martial status, sexual orientation, suicidal ideation, motivation to die, reasons to live, and sex. You've clearly established a solid amount of detail for the remaining areas but these, in particular, might have a little more informative data behind them. Other than that, this article appears sound and neatly constructed. Keep up the good work! DavidlawsonND (talk) 23:48, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

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