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The result was redirect to List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks#Pre-1900. Sandstein 06:36, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rehoboth, Massachusetts tornado and Cambridge, Massachusetts tornado

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These pages have little content and appear to be on non-notable subjects, but do not seem to fit any of the Criteria for Speedy Deletion. RunningOnBrains^(talk) 08:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's also rather confusing that tornadoes that are supposed to have occurred in 1671 and 1680 are sourced to weather reports from January 2009. Uncle G (talk) 11:28, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect both to List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks#Pre-1900. Articles establishing notability could possibly be produced but at present neither has any content beyond that in the list article. These topics could be spun out again should material be made available. Thincat (talk) 11:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:09, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:09, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete - appear to be WP:MADEUP. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:37, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I wondered about that. However, I am trying to stop the speedies because Tornado records notes the events with with plausible references (I am checking). Anyway a discussion is needed. Thincat (talk) 21:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - No, it's not a hoax; these events happened (they are listed in "Significant Tornadoes 1680–1991" by Tom Grazulis) but they are not notable for their own articles. Maybe if I ever get around to making List of Massachusetts tornadoes, but certainly not as their own articles. -RunningOnBrains^(talk) 21:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - I am finding references elsewhere.[1][2] Thincat (talk) 21:35, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fair enough, but these likely should still be WP:BLOWNUP, hence still delete. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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-These pages have little content and appear to be on non-notable subjects, but do not seem to fit any of the Criteria for Speedy Deletion. <b>[[User:Runningonbrains|<font color="#000">Running</font><font color="#00F">On</font><font color="#080">Brains</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Runningonbrains|talk]])</sup></b> 08:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
+These pages have little content and appear to be on non-notable subjects, but do not seem to fit any of the Criteria for Speedy Deletion. <b>[[User:Runningonbrains|<span style="color:#000;">Running</span><span style="color:#00F;">On</span><span style="color:#080;">Brains</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Runningonbrains|talk]])</sup></b> 08:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 *It's also rather confusing that tornadoes that are supposed to have occurred in 1671 and 1680 are sourced to weather reports from January 2009. [[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 11:28, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 *'''Redirect''' both to [[List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks#Pre-1900]]. Articles establishing notability could possibly be produced but at present neither has any content beyond that in the list article. These topics could be spun out again should material be made available. [[User:Thincat|Thincat]] ([[User talk:Thincat|talk]]) 11:44, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Massachusetts|list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Events|list of Events-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 19:09, 7 July 2012 (UTC)</small>
+*<s>'''Speedy delete''' - appear to be [[WP:MADEUP]].</s> - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|<span style="color:maroon;">One ping only</span>]]</sub> 20:37, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
+**'''Comment''' I wondered about that. However, I am trying to stop the speedies because [[Tornado records]] notes the events with with plausible references (I am checking). Anyway a discussion is needed. [[User:Thincat|Thincat]] ([[User talk:Thincat|talk]]) 21:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
+***No, it's not a hoax; these events happened (they are listed in "Significant Tornadoes 1680–1991" by Tom Grazulis) but they are not notable for their own articles. Maybe if I ever get around to making [[List of Massachusetts tornadoes]], but certainly not as their own articles. -<b>[[User:Runningonbrains|<span style="color:#000;">Running</span><span style="color:#00F;">On</span><span style="color:#080;">Brains</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Runningonbrains|talk]])</sup></b> 21:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
+***I am finding references elsewhere.[http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/watorhty.htm][http://www.tornadochaser.net/history.html] [[User:Thincat|Thincat]] ([[User talk:Thincat|talk]]) 21:35, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
+****Fair enough, but these likely should still be [[WP:BLOWNUP]], hence still '''delete'''. - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|<span style="color:maroon;">One ping only</span>]]</sub> 00:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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