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== Firefox OS == |
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There is a mistake in the smartphone market in Q1 2008 as the sum does not add up to 100 in this quarter but is only 87.7%. There is 12.3% missing. Where do they go to? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Umaluagr|Umaluagr]] ([[User talk:Umaluagr|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Umaluagr|contribs]]) 09:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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There is some repetitive material pertaining to Firefox OS that should be condensed. Some of this material is listed under Current OS's despite having been discontinued. |
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==Untitled== |
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Desktop computers mostly rely on three major operating systems, inclduing Windows, Mac OS and Linuz(Linux). Mobile computing, curently focused on multimedia phones, will see more treelike branching into emerging segments. Big corporatins and small start-ups as well are striving to carve out the best possible share of the mobile market, which is expanding but is confronted with technological limitations, including battery life, battery safety and the growing legal bans on the use of mobile handsets at the wheel, particularly when driving. Legal bans on the use of handsets by pedestrians are likely to grow globally. Out of the global total of mobile handsets in use, Internet-enabled handsets account for 10% as of the end dof 2007, which is another bottleneck lying ahead of 'mobile platform' developers and apps developers. Technological insights are mission critical to head off costly mobile format wars, and it was about time we had to pay attention to vehicular dashtop mobile equipment to harness vehicle traffic for environmental protection purposes as well as resouces-saving benefits. [[User:Chmyr|Chmyr]] ([[User talk:Chmyr|talk]]) 20:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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[[User:Nemoanon|Nemoanon]] ([[User talk:Nemoanon|talk]]) 03:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC) |
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== Renamed from "Mobile platform" to "Mobile operating system". == |
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: Merged section header to get started in that direction. [[User:Ph7five|- phi]] ([[User talk:Ph7five|talk]]) 09:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC) |
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Hi, there Chmyr : ) |
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Nice job getting this page started! |
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== future? == |
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The term "platform" can be used to refer a device's hardware, operating system, software, or all three together. And given that there's a separate article called "Mobile device", It seemed that the term "operating system" would be more specific to the subject of this article. |
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I can't understand what happened to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mobile_operating_system&diff=prev&oldid=781123317 this edit]. Did text get lost by mistake? thanks, [[User:Ph7five|- phi]] ([[User talk:Ph7five|talk]]) 13:07, 24 May 2017 (UTC) |
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Btw, I temporarily named the article "Handheld operating system", which was a mistake. |
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== UBports == |
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[[User:InternetMeme|InternetMeme]] ([[User talk:InternetMeme|talk]]) 12:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC) |
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there are no mentions to UBports yet - it’s based on Ubuntu Touch <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2001:8A0:ECAB:9E01:94C0:27BA:4F4E:5D04|2001:8A0:ECAB:9E01:94C0:27BA:4F4E:5D04]] ([[User talk:2001:8A0:ECAB:9E01:94C0:27BA:4F4E:5D04#top|talk]]) 19:47, 14 September 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Other mobile operating systems not currently listed. == |
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== Shouldn't Replicant be listed? == |
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[[Mobilinux]] |
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[[GPE]] |
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[[Nucleus RTOS]] |
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[[OpenZaurus]] |
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[[OPIE user interface]] |
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It's actually based on LineageOS. From their own site: "Replicant uses LineageOS's source code as a base. It is rebranded to provide the Replicant look and feel (wallpapers, logos) and parts of the code are reworked to remove anti-features that can spy on the user. Most importantly, Replicant does not include any of LineageOS's proprietary components (programs, libraries, firmwares) and instead provides free software replacements for some of these. The rest of the system is also adapted so that the free software replacements can run correctly." |
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[[User:InternetMeme|InternetMeme]] ([[User talk:InternetMeme|talk]]) 16:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC) |
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<ref>{{cite web|title=Replicant|url=https://www.replicant.us/about.php#faq|website=Replicant}}</ref> |
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[[User:Etrapani|Etrapani]] ([[User talk:Etrapani|talk]]) 17:53, 25 October 2017 (UTC) |
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{{reflist-talk}} |
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== Android? == |
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== External links modified (February 2018) == |
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Is there any reason why android is not listed under "linux"? [[Special:Contributions/129.105.14.237|129.105.14.237]] ([[User talk:129.105.14.237|talk]]) 21:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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"Cult following among programmers eager to develop apps for its flexible, Open Source, back end." |
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"Android promises to give developers access to every aspect of the phone's operation." |
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"This lends many to foresee the promise of further growth for the Android platform" |
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Is this android ad or what? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.101.194.216|79.101.194.216]] ([[User talk:79.101.194.216|talk]]) 21:09, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Linux is just the kernel and this page is about full OSs--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 21:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Can someone please provide more up-to-date information on the market share of individual operating systems? Q3 2008 is now a bit too old in my opinion. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.171.149.72|58.171.149.72]] ([[User talk:58.171.149.72|talk]]) 05:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::As is Q2 2009 now... <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PerthMod|PerthMod]] ([[User talk:PerthMod|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PerthMod|contribs]]) 01:03, 7 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::Q2 2010 data now available [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone#Operating_systems|shown here]]. I've not got time at the moment (or skills!) to do it [[User:MikesPlant|MikesPlant]] ([[User talk:MikesPlant|talk]]) 18:35, 13 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> |
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Broken link on source No. 9 - http://www.symbian.com/about/overview/ownership/ownership.html |
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== By Q1 2018, over 383 million smartphones were sold with 86.2 percent running percent running iOS.[1] == |
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==Requirements== |
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I think the article should expand more on the specific requirements for mobile Operating systems. Now too much emphasis is given to market share discussions. [[User:Andries|Andries]] ([[User talk:Andries|talk]]) 09:00, 13 May 2010 (UTC) |
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Is that correct? That seems backwards and the source that it is linking to is invalid. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.231.170.7|207.231.170.7]] ([[User talk:207.231.170.7#top|talk]]) 20:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Timeline not “better as prose” == |
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Suggest moving the table to another wikipedia page: [[Mobile_operating_system_comparison]] <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cenora|Cenora]] ([[User talk:Cenora|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cenora|contribs]]) 21:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The section Timeline was tagged on 2020-04-13 at 05:11:10 by {{ping|RJFJR}} with a box saying it may read better as prose. I think that would only make it worse. There is indeed a lot of information there, but the list format at least makes it easier to pick out information by month and year. If one wished to make it easier to pick out developments by other criteria, a sortable table would be better. The example at [[MOS:PROSE]] shows how a list of skyscrapers may be improved by adding other information in prose format. In this section, however, there is little information beyond dates (months), phone brands, OSes, companies and features, and that is probably just as well: otherwise there would be even more to wade through to find what one wants to know. [[User:PJTraill|PJTraill]] ([[User talk:PJTraill|talk]]) 23:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
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== Operating systems feature comparison cleaning == |
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:{{done}}. I agree with your reasoning so I have removed this template. [[User:Anton.bersh|Anton.bersh]] ([[User talk:Anton.bersh|talk]]) 15:29, 5 June 2021 (UTC) |
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== Split info about Android "skins" or "launchers" into a separate article == |
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An inquiry into the "Voice Recognition" on Android. Although the app is cloud based and requires a data connection, is it not still a part of Android. It is also available from the Android SDK, and comes preinstalled on many phones. |
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The majority of content by prose length in this article is just a listing of Android "skins" or "launchers" shipped by default by some phone manufacturers. These are not actually operating systems, they are just glorified wallpapers. Users can easily install custom launchers from app stores, so it makes no sense to list all launchers in this article. Also, the article is over 150K long, well above recommended 100K article size recommended by [[Wikipedia:Article size]]. [[User:Anton.bersh|Anton.bersh]] ([[User talk:Anton.bersh|talk]]) 07:55, 30 May 2021 (UTC) |
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I recently added "official SDK plattform(s) and didn't put a reference to every source because the table becomes harder to edit that way. |
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IMO some feature comparison lacks importance like the Skype, Facebook and OpenVPN. I'm to afraid to remove them myself though. Anyone else agrees on that these should be removed? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Immunmotbluescreen|contribs]]) 11:31, 20 August 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Yes, I agree. Also I don't think so much emphasis should be made on features that can be added trough processes such as "jailbreaking". If I made a comparison between cars (let say price, max speed, engine power, wheels, transmission, etc.), and car X is limited to 250 km/h, I don't care if some people successfully remove the limit. For the average user, 250 km/h is the maximum speed of the car and that should be in the table. In one word let's keep the comparison table simple and clean. --[[User:Zorxd|zorxd]] ([[User talk:Zorxd|talk]]) 20:29, 14 December 2010 (UTC) |
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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —[[User:Community Tech bot|Community Tech bot]] ([[User talk:Community Tech bot|talk]]) 07:51, 6 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Feature like OpenVPN, ssh, Remote Frame Buffer protocols, are important, as the article speak about a "Mobile Operating System" (was "Mobile Platform"), something that control a communication device, more than a simple telephone or a computer like device. A such device should support as most as possible standard communication protocols, so remain always connected with other people, computers and networks. [[User:Efa|Efa]] ([[User talk:Efa|talk]]) 21:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> |
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About the removing of features that could be added trough "jailbreaking", I'm in favour to removal, or at least in a separate table--[[User:Efa|Efa]] ([[User talk:Efa|talk]]) 19:34, 18 January 2011 (UTC) |
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== Microsoft Launcher?? == |
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Also agree, surely features that are not "intrinsic" to the OS should not be mentioned. They are irrelevant in this context. |
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Micorsoft Launcher is a launcher and not an operating system?? [[User:ZalnaRs|ZalnaRs]] ([[User talk:ZalnaRs|talk]]) 11:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC) |
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Deleted some categories but [[79.151.154.146]] undid it. Anyone agree with him/her? These are the categories which I removed and reasons why I did it: |
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#Public issues list - Not a real feature just a way to get rid of bugs. |
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#Phone number linking to dialer - Refers to some kind of number recognition I think. Maybe we should keep this but the table gets out of hand |
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#Browser text reflow - web-browser comparison |
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#Call Recorder - Isn't this a software thing? |
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#Picture corp -||-(same as above symbol, dont know if it is international) |
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#integrated hardware keyboard - Sounds like hardware to me. |
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#Can share images via Bluetooth with all mobile. Refers to bluethooth file transfer. Could be kept but renamed in that case. (removed by [[Special:Contributions/TheWikiAuthor|TheWikiAuthor]]?) |
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I also moved Facebook IM and Skype to a separate table but I suggest we delete them. If you could come up with some arguments why these should be kept we could end this edit war.[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 22:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the [[commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Beitarjerusalem234|nomination page]]. —[[User:Community Tech bot|Community Tech bot]] ([[User talk:Community Tech bot|talk]]) 18:10, 24 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Table unintentionally continued to bottom of page is poorly formatted == |
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:In my honest opinion we should not censor any information. But you guys have the last word. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.218.251.72|87.218.251.72]] ([[User talk:87.218.251.72|talk]]) 23:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The table that lists Finnish Lakes as name of operating systems. [[Special:Contributions/103.94.135.14|103.94.135.14]] ([[User talk:103.94.135.14|talk]]) 07:24, 17 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:I want to know about all features. Why would you remove features from the comparison? [[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]], Do you have a hidden agenda? Do you work for a phone manufacturer? (Yes, I want to know if the phone has Skype support and call recoding is not allowed in USA so some phones have this limited) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/195.235.227.10|195.235.227.10]] ([[User talk:195.235.227.10|talk]]) 07:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Worldwide smartphone sales (thousands of units) == |
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::@[[Special:Contributions/87.218.251.72|87.218.251.72]] - It's not about censoring information. We should aim to create the best article possible. |
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::@[[Special:Contributions/195.235.227.10|195.235.227.10]] k, I see your point but isn't call recording is just software? At least in Symbian² it is. This is an OS comparison, I don't think that should be included at all. Quality over quantity. As for Skype can you at least agree on moving it to a separate table? |
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The table called "Worldwide smartphone sales (thousands of units)" is obviously there only to advertise BharOS. |
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::: The problem is that some operating systems like iOS and Android prevent call recording even for 3rd party software. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.9.174.35|88.9.174.35]] ([[User talk:88.9.174.35|talk]]) 17:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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They didn't even bother matching the fake BharOS numbers with the years in which this "operating system" actually existed on this planet. |
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::::k, would have been easier to understand if it was written in the table. But I won't delete it any more [[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 21:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't this joke of a table be removed? [[Special:Contributions/94.177.32.157|94.177.32.157]] ([[User talk:94.177.32.157|talk]]) 14:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Can I delete those categories which you didn't mention?[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 08:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::: No, information should not be removed or censored. There are people that care about those. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.9.174.35|88.9.174.35]] ([[User talk:88.9.174.35|talk]]) 17:47, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::::Then they can use phonearena or something. This article is about operating systems. There is no way that we could make this page cover every application aspect so we should not even try.[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 21:49, 19 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::These features are important to people if not they would not be implemented on the operating system. Please, do not remove content. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.30.231.205|80.30.231.205]] ([[User talk:80.30.231.205|talk]]) 23:33, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::Having the Issues list publicly available allows people to know if the issue is already know and allow people to decide what phone to buy. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.30.231.205|80.30.231.205]] ([[User talk:80.30.231.205|talk]]) 23:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::If you do not want to contribute to wikipedia you do not have to. But, please, do not remove other people content. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.19.254.188|88.19.254.188]] ([[User talk:88.19.254.188|talk]]) 22:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Facebook IM and Skype are NOT operating system features. They are just apps. [[User:Illegal Operation|Illegal Operation]] ([[User talk:Illegal Operation|talk]]) 17:58, 19 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::: I agree with you, but I do not like removing useful feature comparisons. I really do not care much about those apps but I care about censorship. If anyone else also cares about these features, please revert [[User:Illegal Operation|Illegal Operation]] ([[User talk:Illegal Operation|talk]]) edit. I will support you. |
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::::I love Windows Live Messenger and I know others live Google Voice, but that doesn't mean they belong on the table. [[User:Illegal Operation|Illegal Operation]] ([[User talk:Illegal Operation|talk]]) 18:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC) |
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'''Removals of July 27, 2011''' |
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Some of my suggestions for removal last time was not that well thought out, but this time I'm 100% that they don't belong here. I took the liberty of removing them(let the edit war begin) and here are my explanations: |
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#Multi-user - According to the wikipage it is linked to "Multi-user is a term that defines an operating system or application software that allows ''concurrent'' (simultaneous) access by multiple users of a computer." Why on earth should anyone want to have this feature in their handheld? Even if it referred to multiple user account it would still be a pointless feature on a handheld device, may it be tablet or phone |
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#Non english languages support - Translations to major languages are standard and if "Search is not diacritical mark insensitive" does not really matter enough to make it suitable for this table |
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#Turn off shutter sound - seriously? |
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#Videoconference front video camera - Hardware |
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#Video out - Hardware? |
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--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 17:58, 27 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:I completely agree with all of the proposed deletions and I think "Media Player Fine Scrubbing" as it seems extremely specific to iOS. Other mobile OS's have a similar feature, though it wouldn't qualify as "fine scrubbing". I think it's the same thing as having a category called "Retina Display support", which is a vendor specific proprietary marketing term. [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 04:15, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Please, do not censor contents. As you can see from the references there are people that care about them. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.158.109.42|79.158.109.42]] ([[User talk:79.158.109.42|talk]]) 18:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:: I could think of lots of other topics and find reference to them. For example: Used by the current President of the United States of America. However that doesn't make it less stupid to include. Despite that the references don't say anything about the relevance, the sources mentioned are just hyperlinks to some support forum or to Apple's marketing brochures. They're not really any quality stuff. You have to explain why [[multi-user]] is a feature important enough since it will imo NEVER happen and none of them have it included.--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 07:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::: About the [[Multi-user]] requirement: Some people buy a tablet and want to be able to be used by many people like their partner or children so they want to have separate data, like contacts, messages, bookmarks, ... Please understand that while you may not have a requirement there are other people that may have it. Please feel free to ask about any other requirement you do not understand yet. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/188.87.130.27|188.87.130.27]] ([[User talk:188.87.130.27|talk]]) 08:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== What does "Example" mean? (Push Notifications and Voice Recognition features) == |
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'''Yes, what exactly does "Example" mean?''' [[User:PXUmais|<font color="purple">PXUmais</font>]]<font color="green"> == </font>[[User talk:PXUmais|<font color="red">Talk</font>]] 22:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC) |
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I do not know what does "Example" mean. If you do not make it clear I will remove it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.218.250.230|87.218.250.230]] ([[User talk:87.218.250.230|talk]]) 22:56, 11 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: I have replaced all "Example" with proper references <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.9.174.35|88.9.174.35]] ([[User talk:88.9.174.35|talk]]) 18:06, 19 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Jailbreaking == |
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I feel that there is some bias towards iOS by mentioning that a particular feature can be provided only if it is jailbroken. For example, SSH is not officially enabled on the iphone, it can only be activated by jailbreaking the device, which obviously voids the warranty. Likewise with tethering. If we are comparing mobile operating systems, then we should only take in to account the official features provided by the OS, not custom mods or hacks. |
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:As long as it is clearly stated as "jailbreak" I do not see any problem. |
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Another example, the table says that video trimming is available on iOS, but not Android. Whilst this is true, video trimming can be enabled by installing 3rd-party apps or custom roms. Why can't that be mentioned in the video trim row, whilst SSH is mentioned as possible in the iOS section? |
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[[User:Hypon888|Hypon888]] ([[User talk:Hypon888|talk]]) 12:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:If you add a reference to the third party application that provides the feature you can include it, but mark it as "3rd party" |
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== Feature Multitasking == |
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I want to replace the Multitasking feature with a set of user visible features, since Multitasking is an internal implementation detail. |
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iOS Multitasking is said to be limited but, for example, Android cannot record audio in the background while iOS can.<ref>[http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14462 Android Issue 14462: Sound Recorder does not work on background]</ref> |
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I am going to add such features just bellow the current Multitasking feature and when most know use cases are covered I will remove the Multitasking feature. |
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If you guys know user visible features that are currently included in Multitasking, do not hesitate to add them. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.218.250.144|87.218.250.144]] ([[User talk:87.218.250.144|talk]]) 16:41, 10 June 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: You got reverted? Anyway don't you think that's a bit detailed for a table? That seems imo to belong on the OS wikipage. --[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 16:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:: I still could not find a good list of user visible features to replace multitasking so it can stay as it is. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.158.109.42|79.158.109.42]] ([[User talk:79.158.109.42|talk]]) 17:09, 27 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== The renaming some of features in the table == |
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I feel that some of the features in the "Smartphone OS comparison" table should be renamed if you won't allow me to remove them(see Operating systems feature comparison cleaning down below) |
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'''Non english languages support''' - What exactly is meant by this? This name is very cryptic and languages are often written with a capital letter (eg English) |
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:There are other languages spoken and written other than English like Spanish, Japanese, ... Some operating systems have poor support for languages with non [[ASCII]] characters. |
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'''Search multiple internal applications at once''' - Refers to a lack of the ability to search trough both emails, installed application and contacts. Could be replaced with universal search? |
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:Universal search seems like searching the Internet. The current text seems much unambiguous. |
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'''Wireless firmware updates''' - Replace with Wireless system updates? Less specific than firmware thus more useful. |
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:Yes, it seems much more generic. |
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'''Package Manger''' Only exists within Linux and Unix? Consider renaming?--[[User:Immunmotbluescreen|Immunmotbluescreen]] ([[User talk:Immunmotbluescreen|talk]]) 19:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:I do not know a better name. Do you know one? |
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== Stricter multitasking requirements == |
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Currently iOS and Android are listed as a "Yes" for multitasking while Windows Phone is listed as "Tombstoning" even though all three work almost the same. As far as I know, webOS and QNX (blackberry) are the only mobile OS's with true multitasking, meaning they can run multiple apps at once and switch between them at any time without closing the current application (for all apps, not just music). iOS and Android can only run one active app at a time (excluding a few rare expections such as music player). |
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In my opinion, this should be the break down: |
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*Yes: The OS can run multiple apps. Each app still runs even if it isn't the active app. This MUST apply to all apps, not just music. |
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*Limited: The OS can run multiple apps. Apps may or may not run if they aren't the active app. |
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*No: The OS cannot run multiple apps. |
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For now, as all the mobile OSs listed are either "Yes" or "tombstoning" (though many of the yes's should be tombstoning). I've switched everything except for webOS (and QNX if it were listed) to "Limited". |
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[[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 04:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
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: This page is not about implementation details, but about user visible features. Could you please let us know what user visible feature is possible in webOS but not in other OS? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/193.127.207.152|193.127.207.152]] ([[User talk:193.127.207.152|talk]]) 08:21, 11 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:: Or is just webOS the fastest battery drainer out there? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/193.127.207.152|193.127.207.152]] ([[User talk:193.127.207.152|talk]]) 08:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::: It's very user visible. You can download a file, load up google maps and do a search and send a text message all at the same time and switch between them with a swipe. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeT7yWa3Lcw This marketing video] explains it better. Cards in webOS are the essentially the same thing as windows in desktop OSs where each card (app) can process at the same time and you switch between them by simply tapping on a different card. Other platforms put the app to sleep (for the vast majority of apps) when it's not the active app so on other platforms (except QNX) you would have to go back to the home screen, open the app, do whatever it is you're trying to do, go back to the homescreen, open the next one, etc. I believe iOS and WP7 are adopting this feature in future updates and it may be possible on android with homebrew. Also, a few of the existing items in the table are definitely not user visible e.g. GPU Accelerated UI, Programmed in, and OS family. [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 21:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::: Also, [[multitasking]] is defined as "a method where multiple tasks, also known as processes, share common processing resources such as a CPU." Putting an app to sleep and not sharing processing resources with it is not multitasking. [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 21:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::: Here is an example: iOS cannot run multiple full applications (thus limited multitasking) at the same time. "On the other hand, iOS4 lets apps keep certain features running in the background (but not full apps; for example, you'll be able continue a Skype call or keep listening to your Pandora station while using another app, but the full app isn't running)..." - [http://www.pcworld.com/article/199891/geek_101_android_and_ios_multitasking_compared.html PC World] [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 22:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::: With Android I am able to download a file while using other applications. And with Android and iOS I am able to switch applications without going to the home screen. Please, could you let us know about something user visible only possible in [[webOS]] but not possible on other OS? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.153.245|2.137.153.245]] ([[User talk:2.137.153.245|talk]]) 18:17, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::::: Is [[webOS]] able to play a movie in half of the screen while I browse email on the other half of the screen? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.153.245|2.137.153.245]] ([[User talk:2.137.153.245|talk]]) 19:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::: Now that HP has killed the Touchpad project, it seems like [[Windows 8]] will be the only OS that will support true multitasking by being able to see and use more than one application at the same time.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I Building "Windows 8" - Video #1]</ref> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.153.245|2.137.153.245]] ([[User talk:2.137.153.245|talk]]) 21:28, 30 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::::::: webOS 3.x does support email and video in one window at the same time (up to 5 widgets) through a third party app.<ref>[http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/glimpse-for-hp-touchpad-multi-tasking-within-a-single-app/3297]</ref> webOS software is still supported and updated by HP, only the hardware part has been killed.<ref>[http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/08/the-next-chapter-for-webos/]</ref> (This isn't verifiable at all, but if you're curious, according to rumor, HP is looking to license/sell webOS to some hardware OEM i.e. HTC). Anyway, this is the type of multitasking I'm talking about (on iOS): [http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/ios-5s-new-multitasking-showed-off-on-a-white-iphone-20110419]. I think it would be helpful to have a distinction between this type of multitasking, where you can have multiple apps open and switch between them quickly, versus the other type, where you can have tasks open in the background but only one truly active app. What do you think? [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 04:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::: But it seems like you cannot run two native webOS apps at the same time (only a native app and the rest must be widgets). I think we should document user visible features (not internal implementation details) If as a user you can make a distinction between multitasking of different OSes. As a user, I do not see any difference between the multitasking provided by iOS, Android or webOS. We should make perfectly clear what a user can and cannot do in each operating system. User visible features are like [[VoIP]] calling while using another app. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.24.186.1|88.24.186.1]] ([[User talk:88.24.186.1|talk]]) 07:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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As far as I know, Symbian can do full multitasking~, not just limited. [[User:Andries|Andries]] ([[User talk:Andries|talk]]) 06:48, 12 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Comparison: First version where a feature appeared == |
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It seems [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system?diff=444189397 does not understand the 5+ notation to specify the first version a feature appeared or is going to appear]. I prefer the 5+ notation (rather than "Yes (in version 5 or higher)") because it is shorter. I have seen this notation in other Wikipedia pages like [[Comparison of JavaScript frameworks]]. I am going to revert his change if nobody disagrees. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.153.245|2.137.153.245]] ([[User talk:2.137.153.245|talk]]) 17:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Android is and will continue to be Open Source. == |
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Few days ago I made an IP edit to clarify that as it currently stands Android is and will continue to be open source, except for the version 3 Honeycomb. The pages, prior to my edit, said: "Free and open source prior to version 3 and closed source from version 3" implying that Android from version 3 onwards will no longer be open source. Google has multiple times reaffirmed its commitment to maintain Android as an open source project under Apache licence. For example, [http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/04/i-think-im-having-gene-amdahl-moment.html this is the official Android blog post] that says: "Finally, we continue to be an open source platform and will continue releasing source code when it is ready. As I write this the Android team is still hard at work to bring all the new Honeycomb features to phones. As soon as this work is completed, we’ll publish the code. This temporary delay does not represent a change in strategy. We remain firmly committed to providing Android as an open source platform across many device types." |
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My edit has since been reverted by another IP and I will proceed to revert the edit which undid my addition. If anyone has any problems with this change, please discuss it here before making any edits. Thanks. --'''[[user:Melmann|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:#1C86EE">Melmann</span></font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Melmann|<font size="1"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FE2712">(talk)</span></font>]]</sup>''' 15:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC) |
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It's hard to communicate succinctly the current state of Android's licence. The most recent version (3.x) is not open source, and it never will be. The next major version is planned to be open source, but it's not out yet, and details regarding it are close to non-existent (unlike iOS 5.0, where the feature set has been extensively detailed and multiple beta versions have been released). It's not even been officially announced that the Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android will have a version number of 4.0. If the text weren't so long, I'd suggest something like this: "Versions prior to 3.0 are free and open source. 3.x versions are closed source. Versions post 3.x are planned to be free and open source." Maybe that could be summed up like so: "1.0-2.x: Free and open source; 3.0: Closed source; 4.0+: Planned to be free and open source." This is admittedly making an assumption that Ice Cream Sandwich is going to have a version number of 4.0, but this assumption is already being made on the [[Android (operating system)]] page. Opinions? ([[User:Lun Esex|Lun Esex]] ([[User talk:Lun Esex|talk]]) 02:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)) |
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:I think we can keep [[user:Melmann]] ([[User talk:Melmann]]) change as it is objective and we do not want to bother any contributor. When the next Android version is released make the statement more clear. If, at that time, Android 3 is open sourced but the next version is kept closed source, then we should make clear that Android current version is closed source but past versions are open source. Wikipedia do not like keeping speculations, so, maybe we should never put something like Android will always be open source. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.22.76.254|88.22.76.254]] ([[User talk:88.22.76.254|talk]]) 10:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::It has been stated explicitly by Andy Rubin at Google that Android 3.x versions (Honeycomb) would not be released as open source. The next version of Android that is planned to be open source is Ice Cream Sandwich. See: Holly, Russel. [http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/from-io-2011-confirmed-honeycomb-source-will-never-exist-on-its-own-20110510/ "From I/O 2011 – Confirmed: Honeycomb source will never exist on its own"]. geek.com. Retrieved 11 May 2011. What is speculative is the version number for Ice Cream Sandwich, and the supposition that Android will always continue to be open source (prior to v3.0 it could have easily been claimed that Android would ''always'' be open source, yet v3.0 is closed source!). The fact that the most recent version of Android is closed source means that the current status of the project as it is now is ''closed source'', but it is ''planned'' to be returned to an open source status. Thus its current state is difficult to communicate succinctly. Here is a slight modification of my previous suggestion for Android's licensing text, removing the "4.0+" version number speculation: "1.0-2.x: Free and open source; 3.x: Closed source; Post-3.x: Planned to be free and open source." This can include appropriate references for the status of the 3.x release and the plans for the post-3.x release (Ice Cream Sandwich). ([[User:Lun Esex|Lun Esex]] ([[User talk:Lun Esex|talk]]) 23:39, 8 September 2011 (UTC)) |
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:::Android 4.0 SDK has been released. Do you guys know where the source code is available? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.148.94|2.137.148.94]] ([[User talk:2.137.148.94|talk]]) 05:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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This discussion can be archived as Android 3 and 4 source code was released. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.175.250|2.137.175.250]] ([[User talk:2.137.175.250|talk]]) 08:55, 4 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Separation of the Comparison to a new page == |
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Some people have intended to remove features from the comparison stating that the page is too long. Maybe to prevent features from being removed from the comparison we should split the comparison to [[Comparison of mobile operating systems]] (like it was done with pages like [[Comparison of operating systems]] or [[Comparison of operating system kernels]]). This will prevent the page from "growing too much" and will also make the comparison easier to find. If you guys agree and can create the page any of you should split the comparison to a new page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.22.76.77|88.22.76.77]] ([[User talk:88.22.76.77|talk]]) 12:30, 8 September 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I completely agree. As is the table takes up about half the page. I think it's grown at least 5 rows since the last time I saw it and I'm sure the trend will continue. The light green for yes and light red for no on the pages you linked looks good; That should be added as well. [[User:WinampLlama|WinampLlama]] ([[User talk:WinampLlama|talk]]) 01:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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::So, anyone that can create pages, please, move the table. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.24.186.1|88.24.186.1]] ([[User talk:88.24.186.1|talk]]) 07:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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How about adding information of supported OpenGL version(s)? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/91.153.158.254|91.153.158.254]] ([[User talk:91.153.158.254|talk]]) 14:07, 26 March 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Amazon's Kindle Fire == |
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Amazon just introduced their new Kindle Fire device. While this device runs on Google Android 2.3, its relation to that OS is roughly equivalent to the relation between various Linux-based mobile operating systems (Android itself included) and the Linux kernel at their cores. A large number of features that Google has added to Android are not currently available on the Kindle Fire, and are likely to never be available, with many of them having been replaced by Amazon. Additionally the Kindle Fire will almost certainly never run Android 3.x Honeycomb or subsequent releases like Ice Cream Sandwich, since those are mainly adding features that Amazon would be replacing anyway. Amazon will instead probably continue to develop their own version of the OS based on Android 2.3. Applications for the Kindle Fire will be available through Amazon's Android Appstore, but they will need to be modifed to be able to run on the device, and indications point to it not being able to run stock Android apps out of the box. With all that in mind, should there be a new entry made that is specific to the Kindle Fire OS, as a fork of Android? [[User:Lun Esex|Lun Esex]] ([[User talk:Lun Esex|talk]]) 04:42, 30 September 2011 (UTC) |
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: I am currently keeping Android forks like [[TouchWiz]] or [[HTC Sense]] in the same column as they only seem to add features. But as you say Kindle File will remove many features as it is designed to be a cash machine for Amazon. Maybe we can try to keep it in the same column and say the feature is present on Android but not on Kindle Fire. What features do you know removed or added to the Kindle Fire? |
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:: A complete list won't be available until the Kindle Fire is actually available in the market. It's clearly a radical departure from Android, though. Much moreso than TouchWiz, HTC Sense, MotoBlur, etc. It's also not just a skin like those are, on top of an Android version with all the basic functions and apps from that version underneath. On the Kindle Fire ALL of the stock Android apps from Google have been left out or replaced by Amazon's versions. I think it would be unwieldy to try to lump it together with Android. [[User:Lun Esex|Lun Esex]] ([[User talk:Lun Esex|talk]]) 08:40, 19 October 2011 (UTC) |
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: Sense, TouchWiz, etc are called "Launcher" (same as Go Launcher Ex, Launcher Pro, etc), the Kindle Fire one is similar to custom rom/firmware, Amazon block the android market and use their own market, but however it is still Android, just a modification version. i prefer calling it Custom Rom than a new OS.--[[User:A tumiwa|A tumiwa]] ([[User talk:A tumiwa|talk]]) 04:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC) |
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== Far too much jargon == |
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My problem with the article is that it makes too many assumptions about the readers understanding of architectures, operating systems, licence agreements, etc. Particularly the comparison section. I've tried to add some links for better context, but much more needs to be done. Not everyone is familiar with these things. --[[User:EvenGreenerFish|EvenGreenerFish]] ([[User talk:EvenGreenerFish|talk]]) 01:54, 5 October 2011 (UTC) |
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: Yes, some people only wants some features on their mobile device but for the most exigent people we list all demanded features. As you say they should just be linked so people can investigate further. They also can read the references to gain insight. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.148.94|2.137.148.94]] ([[User talk:2.137.148.94|talk]]) 20:57, 5 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Search in multiple applications at once == |
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[[Special:Contributions/Lprd2007|Lprd2007]] ([[User talk:Lprd2007|talk]]) states that Windows Phone can search at multiple applications at once (aka Universal Search). I do not see the feature and the references provided state it is not available. Could you explain why you say so? Maybe you can provide a better reference or video showing this feature. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.175.250|2.137.175.250]] ([[User talk:2.137.175.250|talk]]) 16:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Source for market share for 2012 Q1 == |
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What is the source for market share for 2012 Q1? Both given references don't mention numbers and they can't as they are from February. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.73.65.46|89.73.65.46]] ([[User talk:89.73.65.46|talk]]) 17:56, 11 April 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Current market share and outlook == |
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The predictions made by IDC are obsolete as they do not match current market share. I am going to remove current IDC predictions until there are updated predictions, if no one disagrees. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2.137.182.208|2.137.182.208]] ([[User talk:2.137.182.208|talk]]) 12:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Non English languages support Android== |
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Android has advanced language support (Asian, Arabic and Hebrew and 'weird' characters. The given references are out of date. See for example the Internationalization part: http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/ <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PieterDeBruijn|PieterDeBruijn]] ([[User talk:PieterDeBruijn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PieterDeBruijn|contribs]]) 08:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Just have a look at the first issue to see that Android internal search continues to not be diacritical mark insensitive unlike iOS. |
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Firefox OS
[edit]There is some repetitive material pertaining to Firefox OS that should be condensed. Some of this material is listed under Current OS's despite having been discontinued.
Nemoanon (talk) 03:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Merged section header to get started in that direction. - phi (talk) 09:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
future?
[edit]I can't understand what happened to this edit. Did text get lost by mistake? thanks, - phi (talk) 13:07, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
UBports
[edit]there are no mentions to UBports yet - it’s based on Ubuntu Touch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:ECAB:9E01:94C0:27BA:4F4E:5D04 (talk) 19:47, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't Replicant be listed?
[edit]It's actually based on LineageOS. From their own site: "Replicant uses LineageOS's source code as a base. It is rebranded to provide the Replicant look and feel (wallpapers, logos) and parts of the code are reworked to remove anti-features that can spy on the user. Most importantly, Replicant does not include any of LineageOS's proprietary components (programs, libraries, firmwares) and instead provides free software replacements for some of these. The rest of the system is also adapted so that the free software replacements can run correctly." [1] Etrapani (talk) 17:53, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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By Q1 2018, over 383 million smartphones were sold with 86.2 percent running percent running iOS.[1]
[edit]Is that correct? That seems backwards and the source that it is linking to is invalid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.231.170.7 (talk) 20:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Timeline not “better as prose”
[edit]The section Timeline was tagged on 2020-04-13 at 05:11:10 by @RJFJR: with a box saying it may read better as prose. I think that would only make it worse. There is indeed a lot of information there, but the list format at least makes it easier to pick out information by month and year. If one wished to make it easier to pick out developments by other criteria, a sortable table would be better. The example at MOS:PROSE shows how a list of skyscrapers may be improved by adding other information in prose format. In this section, however, there is little information beyond dates (months), phone brands, OSes, companies and features, and that is probably just as well: otherwise there would be even more to wade through to find what one wants to know. PJTraill (talk) 23:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Done. I agree with your reasoning so I have removed this template. Anton.bersh (talk) 15:29, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Split info about Android "skins" or "launchers" into a separate article
[edit]The majority of content by prose length in this article is just a listing of Android "skins" or "launchers" shipped by default by some phone manufacturers. These are not actually operating systems, they are just glorified wallpapers. Users can easily install custom launchers from app stores, so it makes no sense to list all launchers in this article. Also, the article is over 150K long, well above recommended 100K article size recommended by Wikipedia:Article size. Anton.bersh (talk) 07:55, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Microsoft Launcher??
[edit]Micorsoft Launcher is a launcher and not an operating system?? ZalnaRs (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
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Table unintentionally continued to bottom of page is poorly formatted
[edit]The table that lists Finnish Lakes as name of operating systems. 103.94.135.14 (talk) 07:24, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Worldwide smartphone sales (thousands of units)
[edit]The table called "Worldwide smartphone sales (thousands of units)" is obviously there only to advertise BharOS. They didn't even bother matching the fake BharOS numbers with the years in which this "operating system" actually existed on this planet. Shouldn't this joke of a table be removed? 94.177.32.157 (talk) 14:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)