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The event at October 4 is not for announcing the iphone 2 they just send as message "Lets Talk iPhone"
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Maybe they can release a 64GB version for iPhone 4 dont you think? (Sorry for my bad english im spanish) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/189.146.212.189|189.146.212.189]] ([[User talk:189.146.212.189|talk]]) 21:50, 28 September 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:That is the name of the event, which should surely talk about the next-iPhone which is long overdue. By the way the name is well, named, I think Apple is going to integrate the Nuance/Siri voice recognition system. <span style="color:white; background:black; border:2px solid black; font-weight: bold; padding: 2px 2px 0px; -moz-border-radius:4px; -webkit-border-radius::4px; -o-border-radius:4px; border-radius:4px;">[[ User:JohnHWiki|<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font color=#FFFFF>JohnHWiki</font> ]]</span>[[ User_talk:JohnHWiki|<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font color=00000><b>talk</b></font></font> ]] - 10:46, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
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::Clearly the speculation suggests a new iPhone 5. Yes Apple inc. has not "officially" made an announcement on the device, but many reliable sources are confirming that it will be an iPhone 5. We got to go with the sources as long as we quote them correctly as saying that Apple is "expected" to release the iPhone 5.--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 13:00, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
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== [[iPhone 4S]] ==

I reckon this article should be moved to [[iPhone 4S]], based on the latest news: [http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/01/apple-outs-iphone-4s-name-in-latest-itunes-beta/ Apple Outs "iPhone 4S" Name in Latest iTunes Beta] <small><span style="border:1px solid #20406F;padding:1px 3px;">[[User talk:Alex.muller|<font color="#20406F">Alex Muller</font>]]</span></small> 22:33, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
:The Apple rumor-mongering sites are considered unreliable by some... --[[User:Cybercobra|<b><font color="3773A5">Cyber</font></b><font color="FFB521">cobra</font>]] [[User talk:Cybercobra|(talk)]] 22:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
::This whole article relies on those same sites for its reliable sources. My take is that they tend to go back and forth on the 5 or 4s. As for now, leave it as is.--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 23:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

== One of the Worst articles on wikipedia ==

those stats about the number of blackberry or android users planning to buy an iPhone 5 have no place in an article of this brevity. It's just self indulgent apple propaganda. the article should be locked. it's only 4 lines long and is edited around 15 times a day. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.105.212.184|78.105.212.184]] ([[User talk:78.105.212.184|talk]]) 13:57, 2 October 2011 (UTC)</span>
:Be bold, remove the stats with a good reason listed if you don't believe it belongs in the article. [[WP:BOLD]] {{unsigned|YuMaNuMa}}
I bet you own and android or blackberry, facts dont lie, and those stats most DEFINETLEY belong in this article. {{unsigned|67.215.138.7}}
:: The stats do belong in the article but definitely not in the lead. I don't want to go into depth about bias reports here but there is absolutely no detail on the research that was done by InMobi, usually a report of such controversy should come with a few extra pointers in explaining how the survey was conducted but its sourced so there is not really any reason to take it out of the article. The market share for InMobi is pretty much only the iOS platform as Android has its own advertising system(Google Ads) so that would be another reason to assume bias. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 14:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
::Multiple reliable sources confirm the stats. -- '''[[User:Lukep913|<span style="color:#DC143C"><span style="font-family:Palatino">Luke</span></span>]] [[User_talk:Lukep913|<span style="color:#191970"><span style="font-family:Palatino">(Talk)</span></span>]]''' 20:30, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
:::Multiple reliable sources? It's one source that doesn't say anything about the sample size, their testing methods, OR their sampling bias (how they chose who they chose). Personally, I think that "andorid leak" that was posted on 4chan is more trustworthy than this. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.236.136.206|99.236.136.206]] ([[User talk:99.236.136.206|talk]]) 14:23, 4 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> edit: not to mention that the page says that they had "24 billion mobile ad impressions on the InMobi network over the past quarter" and "Monthly Impressions : 47.3 Billion", which are kinda contradictory.

Oh just shutup.
:Multiple people make the same comment and you (67.215.138.7) tell them to "just shutup"? That is very disrespectful, and as you have not provided a reason for it being in the article aside from "I bet you own and [sic] android", I am now removing said numbers. [[User:Charwinger21|Charwinger21]] ([[User talk:Charwinger21|talk]]) 02:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Does it look like I care...? One person made the comment because he's and android fan boy, same as you.

== The iPhone 4S announced. ==

The iPhone 4S has officially been announced by Apple at the "Let's talk iPhone" event on October 4th.
The device will feature the same design as the current iPhone 4, but will see interior upgrades.
List of changes:
A5 Dual Core proccesor (2x faster)
Dual core graphics card (7x faster)
New dual antenna design (2x faster download speed)
8MP Camera
Full HD 1080p Video Recording
Speech to text translation
The device will be released on October 14th
*all speed increases are compared to the current iPhone 4 and have been obtained from the iPhone event on October 4th 2011.

:I don't know about you guys, but just better specs and no 4G is not worth a 16 month wait, but eh, I'm, glad we got this stuff anyway. :) [[User:Giggett|Giggett]] ([[User talk:Giggett|talk]]) 21:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
::Of all the [[iPhone]]-related articles in this site, I can say that editors did not take much time to edit the page. It seems like they were too lazy to do it, because of the disappointment with the newly-announced product. I'm not an [[Apple]] fanboy, but come on, that's just unfair. [[Special:Contributions/112.205.9.99|112.205.9.99]] ([[User talk:112.205.9.99|talk]]) 15:23, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

== Fifth generation? ==

Is this really the fifth generation of the phone? I think it's more the 3.5 gen.<br>
Original - 1st<br>
3G/3GS - 2/2.5<br>
4/4S 3/3.5<br>

Right? [[User:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:green">DanielDPeterson</span>]] ([[User_talk:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]) 19:07, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

:I disagree. Send your personal complaints to Tim Cook instead. —[[User:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''stay'''</span>]] <big>([[User talk:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''sic'''</span>]])</big>! 19:41, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

::Well it's no doubt the fifth PHONE, but I don't believe that Tim Cook actually used the term "generation". [[User:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:green">DanielDPeterson</span>]] ([[User_talk:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]) 20:53, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

:::For sure it's the fifth generation, it's the 5th phone of course. I can see the next phone called the iPhone 6 or iPhone 4G, if they finally decide to use 4G. [[User:Giggett|Giggett]] ([[User talk:Giggett|talk]]) 21:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
::::There is no such thing as a half of a generation.--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 21:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

:::::Okay, then maybe 3rd gen (1st revision) as they changed it to on the iPods. A new phone doesn't always constitute a new generation. This was, IMO, a minor spec bump, as was the 3GS, and not worthy of a new generation. [[User:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:green">DanielDPeterson</span>]] ([[User_talk:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]) 03:34, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::What I observed is that the only time when Apple ups a generation is when the external design changes as with iPhone 2G, 3 and 4. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 03:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Iteration rather than generation? [[User:danno uk|<font color="#339900">'''d'''</font><font color="#009900">'''a'''</font><font color="#006600">'''n'''</font><font color="#336633">'''n'''</font><font color="#003300">'''o'''</font>]] 10:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

::::::::Stop making up your own definitions for the word generation. It ''is'' the fifth-generation iPhone, period. There are enough technological differences between the iPhone 4 and the 4S to distinguish the two models. [http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/ Compare iPhones.] All disappointed Apple fanboys should protest/complain somewhere else. —[[User:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''stay'''</span>]] <big>([[User talk:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''sic'''</span>]])</big>! 21:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

== Edit request from 109.148.107.47, 4 October 2011 ==

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apple iphone 4s has dual apple a5 processor rear 8mp camera 1080p video hspda+ 14.4mbps available 14th october
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:I've unprotected the article, so you should be able to make this change yourself. Hope this helps, <small><span style="border:1px solid #20406F;padding:1px 3px;">[[User talk:Alex.muller|<font color="#20406F">Alex Muller</font>]]</span></small> 19:19, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

== iPhone 4S and the iphone 4s ==

I have noticed at least one instance where the plural of the iPhone 4 is written as iPhone 4s. This could be a potential confusion problem across the project. Any suggestions on a fix?--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 18:14, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
:The official name used by Apple for the 5th-generation iPhone is the '''iPhone 4S'''. "iPhone 4S" is ''not'' the same as "iPhone 4s", the latter would imply more than one [[iPhone 4]]. —[[User:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''stay'''</span>]] <big>([[User talk:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''sic'''</span>]])</big>! 03:34, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

== does ''iPhone 4S = iPhone 4 Steve Jobs''? ==
i heard some rumours, that iPhone 4S could be the original iPhone 5. But because Apple konwn [[Steve Jobs|Jobs]] would not be long with us, so named this one to '''iPhone 4 Steve Jobs'''. is it real?--[[Special:Contributions/83.189.35.235|83.189.35.235]] ([[User talk:83.189.35.235|talk]]) 01:54, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
:As of October 6, all the rumors are past and obsolete; there is no iPhone 5. While Steve Jobs is unfortunately dead, his name has nothing to do with the iPhone 4S. If I remember correctly, [[iPhone 3GS|the "S" stands for ''speed'']]. —[[User:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''stay'''</span>]] <big>([[User talk:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''sic'''</span>]])</big>! 03:39, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
::It could also stand for "Speech" <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.79.211.193|72.79.211.193]] ([[User talk:72.79.211.193|talk]]) 18:14, 6 October 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::It could also stand for "Sprint", but I'm pretty sure that since the "S" on "3GS" stood for speed, it's a safe bet that it stands for Speed again. [[User:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:green">DanielDPeterson</span>]] ([[User_talk:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]) 04:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
::::I doubt that. The iPhone is also available on AT&T and Verizon, who were around longer with Apple than Sprint was. Apple hasn't accurately specified what the "S" stands for in the iPhone 4S. My guess it could be speed, due to the new high-speed 14.4 Mbps HSDPA data download, which has been described by [http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/04/iphone_4s_new_14_4_mbps_hsdpa_4g_speeds_wont_help_americans.html some] [http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/07/att_wants_apple_to_add_4g_indicator_to_iphone_4s_status_bar.html observers] to be "4G-like" download speeds, or due to the A5 processor in the iPhone 4S. Another wild guess could be the "S" is short for [[Siri (software)|Siri]]. —[[User:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''stay'''</span>]] <big>([[User talk:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''sic'''</span>]])</big>! 22:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::Or iPhone 3GSecond Generation (3GS) or iPhone 4Second generation (4S) [[User:Macedoniarulez|Makedonija]] ([[User talk:Macedoniarulez|talk]]) 07:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I think that all of you guys could be right. They might of not said the official meaning of the "S", so they can leave it out as a mystery. Making everyone think that it can mean ''anything''. For example: '''S'''teve (Jobs), '''S'''peed, '''S'''print, '''S'''iri, '''S'''peech (voice control) or '''S'''econd (generation). While some people use the "S" for negative reviews. [[User:Giggett|Giggett]] ([[User talk:Giggett|talk]]) 23:04, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::: Another could be Four-s -> Force. [[Special:Contributions/80.167.128.27|80.167.128.27]] ([[User talk:80.167.128.27|talk]]) 23:12, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


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== RAM Confirmation ==

Is the RAM amount confirmed? Otherwise we should just treat it as speculation and delete it from the article. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tsujimasen|Tsujimasen]] ([[User talk:Tsujimasen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tsujimasen|contribs]]) 17:13, 7 October 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Multiple sources point out that the iPhone 4S has 512MB of RAM, the same amount as the iPhone 4. [http://www.tipb.com/2011/10/06/iphone-4s-512mb-ram-iphone-4/ ] [http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/10/07/iphone-4s-only-has-512mb-ram-more-than-enough/ ] [http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/10/apples-iphone-4s-has-512-megabytes-of-ram-just-like-iphone-4-and-ipad-2 ] [http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-512mb-ram-specs/ ] [http://myona.com/2011/10/07/iphone-4s-ram-spotted-512mb/ ] —[[User:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''stay'''</span>]] <big>([[User talk:A7x|<span style="color:black">'''sic'''</span>]])</big>! 22:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

::But all of those links are based on one quote? [[Special:Contributions/65.41.8.29|65.41.8.29]] ([[User talk:65.41.8.29|talk]]) 18:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

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== Do sources say that the iPhone 4S is the iPhone 5? ==

Just wondering if this is the iPhone 5 and if there are sources that confirm it.--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 23:57, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
:Well it is the fifth generation, it's just not called that way. :P [[User:Giggett|Giggett]] ([[User talk:Giggett|talk]]) 20:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
::I know its the 5th generation, but its not the iphone 5.--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 00:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
:::Technically it is. It has all the features the iPhone 5 was rumored to have, just not the larger screen and slimmer design. But I can see why Apple does not like to make their phones larger. So yes, its the fifth generation, it has all the iPhone 5's features. It's just not called the iPhone 5, but some may call it that way anyway, just how I call the iPhone 3G the iPhone 2. :P [[User:Giggett|Giggett]] ([[User talk:Giggett|talk]]) 04:09, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
::::Are there [[WP:V|verifiable sources]] saying that people are calling it the iPhone 5? I have seen some that explicitly state that it is not the iPhone 5. Verifiable sources must be used in order to make the leap that people still call it the iPhone 5. Otherwise it is [[WP:OR|original research]] to call it the "iPhone 5".--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 12:02, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

== Spelling of the Word Colour*** in the Camera section ==

Wikipedia dictates that when talking about Commonwealth topics to use British spelling and when talking about American subjects to use American English and spelling. Please change this since Apple Inc. is an American company, and the iPhone 4s therefore an American topic. The word is spelled colour instead of color.
:{{fixed}} <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Baseball Watcher|<span style="color:red;">'''Baseball'''</span>]][[User talk:Baseball Watcher|<span style="color:blue;">''' Watcher'''</span>]]</font> 22:27, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

== ". The SGX is the same GPU used in the iPhone 4S’ predecessor, the iPhone 4. However, the iPhone 4S uses a dual-core model, the SGX543," ==

hardly same! (. The SGX is the same GPU used in the iPhone 4S’ predecessor, the iPhone 4. However, the iPhone 4S uses a dual-core model, the SGX543,)

we can say that is from the same family SGX, but is not the same. since this one is dual core and the other one is single core GPU. Hence not the same.

[[Special:Contributions/50.9.109.170|50.9.109.170]] ([[User talk:50.9.109.170|talk]]) 07:52, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

:agreed --[[User:Danbob999|Danbob999]] ([[User talk:Danbob999|talk]]) 16:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


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== C Spire Wireless ==
== Move ==

C Spire Wireless (formerly Cellular South) is getting the iPhone 4S soon as well. http://www.cspire.com/shop_and_learn/iphone/coming/?WT.mc_id=email_iPhone4SComing <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bluedragon1971|Bluedragon1971]] ([[User talk:Bluedragon1971|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bluedragon1971|contribs]]) 20:56, 19 October 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Done. [[User:Zach.vega1|Zach Vega]] ([[User talk:Zach.vega1|talk]]) 23:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

== [[Siri (software)]] [[security]] resource ==

[http://www.pcworld.com/article/242253/siris_security_hole_the_passcode_is_the_problem.html Siri's Security Hole: The Passcode Is the Problem] by Jared Newman, [[PCWorld]] Oct 20, 2011 12:50 PM [[Special:Contributions/97.87.29.188|97.87.29.188]] ([[User talk:97.87.29.188|talk]]) 23:27, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

== 1GHz Dual-core Apple A5, underclocked to 800 MHz ==

Could some one remove the reference to 1 GHz? It's a 800 MHz CPU. Whether a faster clocked version exists in an other device or not is irrelevant for the left side specs sheet. --[[User:Danbob999|Danbob999]] ([[User talk:Danbob999|talk]]) 16:57, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
:It is relevant as the Apple A5 was intended and manufactured to be ran at 1ghz. It was underclocked possibly to conserve battery. From what I understand, it is ''exactly'' the same CPU that is used in the iPad 2 and not another 'verison'. Also information should retained to maintain consistency with other articles. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 00:53, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
::When you buy a 3 GHz CPU from Intel, it's the same as the 2.8 GHz CPU. Intel doesn't sell the 2.8 GHz CPU as an "underclocked 3GHz". We can't even know if the CPU is capable of 1 GHz. Maybe Apple used its bad chips for the iPhone and that 800 MHz was the maximum stable speed. Or maybe that the intended speed was 2 GHz but that the iPad is underclocked to 1 GHz? Who knows? Saying otherwise would be pure speculation anyway, as Apple never reviled the speed of the CPU. --[[User:Danbob999|Danbob999]] ([[User talk:Danbob999|talk]]) 12:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
::: I have widely heard Amd employing this technique on its gpu and CPU but plausible nonetheless. No company will be willing to market a CPU as an 'underclock' but you do have a point about this being an assumed speculation from the media at large. But it's unlikely that iPhone 4s chips are defective, there can simply not be enough to go around. '''Agree''' that the information about underclocked cpu should be removed unless provided with a direct source quoted by manufacturer(Samsung/Foxconn) or Apple. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 14:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

== Front Camera ==

On the wiki, the camera for the 4S is listed as 0.9 MP, which from what I can tell is only confirmed by a handful of news/blog sites previous to the actual release of the 4S.

The Apple site still lists the camera as VGA and my own testing indicates that the camera on the 4S is the same as that on the 4. Both still pictures and video taken with the front camera have a 640x480 resolution, rather than the 1280x720 resolution expected of a 0.9 MP camera.

[[User:SnickySnacks|SnickySnacks]] ([[User talk:SnickySnacks|talk]]) 23:22, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

== Help! ==

Can one of the main contributors here help me on[[MyTouch 4G Slide]]. It seems I'm the only main contributor.[[User:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#800020">'''Greg'''</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#CFB53B">'''Heffley'''</font>]]</small> 21:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
:Sorry, I don't touch Android phones. LOL. Just Kidding. I'll help take look.--[[User:Jojhutton|<font color="#A81933">JOJ</font>]] [[User talk:Jojhutton|<font color="#CC9900"><sup>Hutton</sup>]]</font> 21:54, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

==Battery life issues - Batterygate?==
There are many reports regarding battery life issues for 4S. Below are some of them. I think it is worth mentioning in the article.

* New iPhone Faces Battery Complaints - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/new-iphone-faces-battery-complaints/
* 'Batterygate': Apple's latest iPhone controversy? - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/batterygate-apples-latest-iphone-controversy/62165
* Apple's iPhone 4S runs out of power too soon, users say - http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19234280
* 4 Fixes For iPhone 4S Battery Woes - http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/231901930
* iPhone 4S users charged up over battery life - http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/31/8565630-iphone-4s-users-charged-up-over-battery-life
* BatteryGate? iPhone 4S Battery Issue Causes Apple to Investigate - http://technorati.com/technology/gadgets/article/batterygate-iphone-4s-battery-issue-causes/
* http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Apples-Newest-iPhone-Is-Good-but-402010/ [[User:Abhishikt|Abhishikt]] ([[User talk:Abhishikt|talk]]) 23:23, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

== "Slate" is not a proper form factor for this phone. ==

Please remove the references to the "slate" form factor. Not only does this not qualify, but in fact that's a term used by HP et al. for tablet computers. Please correct this big mistake immediately. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.23.54|174.253.23.54]] ([[User talk:174.253.23.54|talk]]) 07:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
:By definition the iPhone is the epitome of slate. Minimal buttons with a large touch screen as primary input, no slider, no hinge just one single slab of metal and electronic circuits. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 08:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
::The iPhone isn't described as a slate by anyone with industry knowledge and shouldn't be here. This has clearly been added without cause. In fact, [[iPhone_4]] continues not to be described this way. Please check your facts. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.23.54|174.253.23.54]] ([[User talk:174.253.23.54|talk]]) 16:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
:::I'll reiterate this to you, the iPhone is a slate and there is no doubt about it. In fact most brands don't market their phones as a slate but the form factor is there and the phone perfectly matches this definition. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 22:15, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
::::Please read this carefully and slowly so that you can try to understand: meeting some arbitrary definition define by amateurs does not make it an appropriate term for the Wikipedia page. Apparently this is a difficult concept for you to understand. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.24.15|174.253.24.15]] ([[User talk:174.253.24.15|talk]]) 15:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well 174.253.24.15, you're wrong! The iPhone 4S is a slate. If you disagree, please give proof.[[User:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#800020">'''Greg'''</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#CFB53B">'''Heffley'''</font>]]</small> 20:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::Wow, great and useful contribution Greg. You've really moved the ball forward on your Side of the argument by simply declaring your opinion to be fact. Fantastic job. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.24.15|174.253.24.15]] ([[User talk:174.253.24.15|talk]]) 20:41, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::::See [http://www.theverge.com/products/iphone-4s/2783 here][[User:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#800020">'''Greg'''</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#CFB53B">'''Heffley'''</font>]]</small> 20:55, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::::That says slab, not slate. And having the form factor be described that way on one website does not make it correct--no matter how badly you may want it to be. Nice try. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.24.15|174.253.24.15]] ([[User talk:174.253.24.15|talk]]) 20:58, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::[https://plus.google.com/108628989269984953458/posts/FvWfn8CajuM Here][http://www.thephonedatabase.com/Apple_iPhone_4S_799_vs_Apple_iPhone_4_Verizon_393_Compare_Phones Here]and [http://www.whistleout.com/blog/page/2 Here][[User:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#800020">'''Greg'''</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Gregory Heffley|<font color="#CFB53B">'''Heffley'''</font>]]</small> 21:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::You just keep using the same stable of fallacious arguments and unreliable sources, Greg. You've offered nothing of value whatsoever to this discussion. Please feel free to read Wikipedia guidelines more carefully before making any further changes. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.24.15|174.253.24.15]] ([[User talk:174.253.24.15|talk]]) 21:07, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::You have provided no source at all, so who are you to make claims ? The term slate has been relatively new but it has been define by those in the industry not amateurs.. [[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]] ([[User talk:YuMaNuMa|talk]]) 23:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
:And again, this term isn't even used on the iPhone 4 page in such a prominent place. It's inappropriate and arbitrary. [[Special:Contributions/174.253.24.15|174.253.24.15]] ([[User talk:174.253.24.15|talk]]) 21:31, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
::I see it on there.[[User:Mike28968|<font color="gold">Mike</font>]] [[User talk:Mike28968|<font color="green">2</font>]][[User:mike28968/sandbox|<font color="maroon">8</font>]][[User:mike28968/Guestbook|<font color="blue">9</font>]](click on 9)! 21:36, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know who's right about this question, but I do know that y'all are about to be blocked for edit-warring over the hat tag. Please stop. If you want to be done with a discussion, then be done - just walk away. Or, you could [[WP:RFC|request additional comment]], if that's your thing. Either way, please - both of you - calm down. [[User:Ultraexactzz|UltraExactZZ]] <sup> [[User_talk:Ultraexactzz|Said]] </sup>~<small> [[Special:Contributions/Ultraexactzz|Did]] </small> 21:40, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
:I also condemn the edit warring. Secondarily, I support the use of the term "slate". I noticed that the other iPhone articles do not reference the form factor in the infobox, but do not take that as precedent. Instead, I insist that whatever conclusion is reached be applied uniformly. [[User:HereToHelp|HereToHelp]] <sup>([[User talk:HereToHelp|''talk to me'']])</sup> 21:58, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have 2 points about this. Firstly "'slate' sized" doesn't actually mean anything if "slate" refers to a form factor (you can have large or small candybar phones - all candybar because of their shape, not their size). Therefore I believe the author was attempting to equate the iPhone's 3.5" screen as sized like a "slate". "Slate" is a marketing term for a tablet computer, first coined by Microsoft and HP for their Windows 7 tablet computer [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8444672.stm Here]. It has since gained a little traction with people referring to Tablet Computers in general as "Slates" (but this is still not in general usage; "Tablet" is the standard definition, iPad is a "Tablet", not a "Slate" - [http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/top-21-best-ipad-alternatives-690596 Here] has 3 mentions of "Slate" and 111 mentions of "Tablet"). Some newer phones with larger screens are seen as crossover devices and the term "Phablet" has been coined to describe them: [http://www.engadget.com/tag/phablet/ Here]. These all have 5" and larger screens.

Therefore at the very least the word "sized" should be deleted.

If the author was intending to refer purely to the form factor of the phone as a "slate" then this is also wrong. There is no such mobile phone form factor. I can find no external references to this form factor that were not influenced by the original Wikipedia entry for "Slate Phone" (since changed). I can't find any reputable sources before that entry was made. None of the tech press use that description of form factor. As previously mentioned above, "Slate" was the name for one product. It is very hard to cite sources to prove something that doesn't exist and prove that a term that isn't used, isn't used! Apple certainly don't use this term in any of their marketing material. So I would ask that unless a good source can be found to back up this use of the word "Slate" it should also be deleted.[[User:X4n63r|X4n63r]] ([[User talk:X4n63r|talk]]) 09:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

== Edit request from , 15 November 2011 ==

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iPhone 4s is available in iran (islamic republic of) from October 28, 2011
these are some of online stores in iran that delivered iPhone 4s from october 28
http://www.gooshi-bazar.com/products/mobile/apple/593.html
http://www.digikala.com/?Products=Mobile&Product=Mobile-Apple-iPhone4S-32GB
http://www.digikala.com/?Products=Mobile&Product=Mobile-Apple-iPhone4S-16GB
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[[User:Shba|Shba]] ([[User talk:Shba|talk]]) 15:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
:I'm sorry, I can't add that now; we need a better [[WP:IRS|reference]] - such as a newspaper reporting ''about'' the launch. If you can find something like that, please ask again. Thanks! <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white">&nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

== IPHONE 4 ==

Can i buy the above i phone in the U.S and be able to use it anywhere i travel in the globe? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/166.181.3.74|166.181.3.74]] ([[User talk:166.181.3.74|talk]]) 03:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

This is not the proper place to ask such a question, but, yes, the iPhone 4S is a world phone. [[User:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:green">DanielDPeterson</span>]] ([[User_talk:DanielDPeterson|<span style="color:teal">talk</span>]]) 07:31, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

== Front Camera spec ==

Hi, I find the Front Camera specifications have been changed by some unregistered version. I googled and found the Front camera is VGA but i don't know whether its 0.3 or 0.9 MP so somebody please check it and update it with correct data. [[User:Abdul raja|Abdul raja]] ([[User talk:Abdul raja|talk]]) 05:53, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:I have also scoured the internet and didn't find much help on that besides the fact that it is VGA. I poked around a little and took two photos (granted, I have an iPhone 4S), one with the front camera and one with the 8MP rear. Analyzing the two photos' data, the rear camera had a resolution of 3,264x2,448 which translates to 8MP via [http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp this Megapixel Calculator], while the front camera's image resolution of 640x480 resulted in a 0.3MP image via that same tool. It would be great to find a true source which states that the iPhone 4S (and also 4) has a 0.3MP camera, but I'm sure that would discourage customers from buying the phone because they only really care [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/technology/08pogue.html about the number]. —[[User:DDima|ddima]] ([[User talk:DDima|talk]]) 08:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
::Oh! That's great! You've iPhone 4S! So we are good with the data of Front Camera as 0.3 MP. Thanks for your effort! [[User:Abdul raja|Abdul raja]] ([[User talk:Abdul raja|talk]]) 09:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
:::No problem, glad I can help out! Cheers, —[[User:DDima|ddima]] ([[User talk:DDima|talk]]) 19:49, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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==Peer Review==
'''The following text has been directly copied from the peer review request'''


; Comments from Jappalang

* I envision such an article about a device to tell me:
** What is the product?
** Features
*** What are its features/capabilities?
*** Any unique ones?
** Development/production
*** How was it conceived?
*** Where was it manufactured and for how much?
*** What was its performance/reliability?
** Release
*** How many did it sell?
*** What awards did it receive?
** Impact
*** How did society/consumers receive it?
*** What was its impact on the company?
*** What was its impact on the industry?
*: This article failed to do so for me. Information is scattered here and there and interrupted by spiels of irrelevant information. The Impact section has nothing about the impact of the device at all. I do not need a price/contract/service provider guide. This sort of things are ephemeral and trivial unless the phone only works with one service provider out of several (as per the first iPhone in the US for a time). Thus the Availability section is entirely unencyclopaedic in my opinion.

* The piecemeal sentences (several paragraphs simply comprise a single sentence) in this article does not reach the standard of prose requested for Featured Articles. Furthermore, sentences like "Its not clear what the impact of Siri speaking in public will be, but it does not have to speak out loud and can be used with headphones" have grammatical errors ("Its" is the possessive form of "it"; I doubt it is Siri that "[has] to speak out loud") and an unencyclopaedic tone (the intent is to use the contraction "it's", which is not encyclopaedic; neither is the proposition of stating "We do not know what the item is like, but ..."). In short, heavy copy-editing is required to phrase the sentences properly and to cast them in an encyclopaedic light (just reporting the facts).

* There are uncited items like "One unique aspect was that the whole management team of several people took turns discussing the new products" (frankly, that is not unique at all), the Design section, and various other sentences in the following sections.

* This ultimately is supposed to be an article about a common handheld electronic device, almost integral to everyone's life. Hence, its contents are supposed to be accessible to everyone who wants to learn more about it. It is not a DNA centrifuge nor a neutrino generator. It does not need to be phrased thoroughly in "tech speak" or full of little stuff that makes the technically-inclined happy but confuses the majority of the readers.

* In my opinion, the lede is already an overwhelming mass of "tech speak", as illustrated by the first sentence itself&mdash;"The '''iPhone 4S''' is a touchscreen slate smartphone developed by Apple Inc." While most likely know of touchscreen, what the heck is a "slate smartphone"? The "smartphone" is a marketing jargon and serves nothing except to obfuscate ("so the phone can think?"). Much more can be done with the simpler "The iPhone 4S is a mobile phone with a touchscreen interface. It was developed by Apple Inc and released to the public in October 2011." Readers readily comprehend what this sentence is saying without having to deal with technical jargon. Wiki-linking is no justification. Forcing readers to go to some other article to learn what a term means and losing them there (either because the article is more interesting or they gave up because it is the same mess of technical confusion) is a disservice to both the readers and the project. Wiki-links are supposed to provide extra information for the readers, not as links of convenience for article builders. Either cast the technical terms into context (such that the meaning can be easily guessed at) or provide a brief explanation of the term. Above all, write in a clear and concise manner.

* What makes the following reliable sources per [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-28/Dispatches]]?
** http://www.ifixit.com/
** http://tideart.com/?id=4e9dc842
** http://www.keynoodle.com/iphone-4s-sells-1-million-in-under-24-hours/
** http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/13/survey-29-of-smartphone-owners-47-of-iphone-4-owners-disappointed-in-iphone-4s/
** http://www.appleinsider.com/
** http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s-what-can-you-say-to-siri/
** http://live.theverge.com/Event/Apple_iPhone_5_event_live_blog?Page=7
** http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apple_announces_iphone_4s_new_antenna_better_battery/
** http://cellphones.about.com/od/smartphonebasics/f/iphone_cost.htm
** http://www.skoolboyz.in/
** http://www.mukamo.com/apple-iphone-4s-price-philippines-2011/
** http://gadgetronica.com/blog/iphone-4s-preorder-aircel-airtel-price.html
** http://gizmodo.com/5847627/these-are-the-unlocked-iphone-4s-prices
** http://iphonephilippines.com/2011/11/iphone-4s-heading-smart-communications.html
** http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/17/iphone-4-confirmed-to-have-512mb-of-ram-twice-the-ipad-and-3gs/
** http://toucharcade.com/2008/07/07/under-the-hood-the-iphones-gaming-mettle/
** http://www.saudimac.com/2011/10/reserve-an-iphone-4s-from-jarir-book-store/
** http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/375314
** http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/10/apples-iphone-4s-has-512-megabytes-of-ram-just-like-iphone-4-and-ipad-2
** http://www.pretenseofknowledge.com/2011/11/02/whats-up-with-the-iphone-4s-and-ios-5-battery-woes/
** http://live.thisismynext.com/
** http://www.yugatech.com/blog/telecoms/globe-ceo-ernest-cu-confirms-arrival-of-iphone-4s/

All in all, it is time to clean out the house in this article if one aspires it to be of better quality. Take what is presented in reliable sources and present data that informs the reader clearly on what the phone is and its impact. After that, ask someone who is experienced in the English language (and, preferably, not a "tech nut", so he or she can spot any stumbling point in the sentences) to go through and brush up the prose. [[User:Jappalang|Jappalang]] ([[User talk:Jappalang|talk]]) 07:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

===Comments from contributors===
I strongly support the removal of '''all''' availability content on '''all''' mobile phone articles, it has been debated before on various mobile phone article talk pages that the availability section is nothing more than promotional material disguised as encyclopedic content. The only possible reason I see the need for the availability section is if there are variants of the phones that may be limited to an area or carrier or if there is a significant shortage of supply in a specific area. ''[[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMaNuMa]]'' <sup> [[User talk:YuMaNuMa|Talk]] [[w:Special:Contributions/YuMaNuMa|Contributions]] </sup> 12:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
:Well, take a look at Windows Phone and [[Nokia Lumia 800]], and you'll find the article to contain only "problems" and "issues".--[[User:Caygill|Caygill]] ([[User talk:Caygill|talk]]) 16:04, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[User:Zach Vega|Zach Vega]] ([[User talk:Zach Vega|talk to me]]) 14:46, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

== Accessibility ==

My understanding is that the accessibility features in iOS 5 on the 4S are somewhat of a breakthrough for people with disabilities, with competitors like Microsoft dropping the ball entirely. We should probably have a statement on these features and their usage on the 4S, which in combination consist of AssistiveTouch and Siri. Right now, this statement is in the iMessage section instead of a section named "Accessibility" or "Assistive technology". [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 11:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

:Siri is unfortunately available only in 3-4 languages, where the device is available in tens of languages.--[[User:Caygill|Caygill]] ([[User talk:Caygill|talk]]) 16:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

== Siri class act lawsuit ==

'''Where''' should this [http://mashable.com/2012/03/13/apple-siri-lawsuit/ law suit] be included? Under "reported problems" or under the Siri -section?--[[User:Caygill|Caygill]] ([[User talk:Caygill|talk]]) 19:04, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

:That should probably go into the [[Siri (software)|Siri]] article. [[User:Zach Vega|Zach Vega]] ([[User talk:Zach Vega|talk to me]]) 14:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

== iPhone 5 ==

The iPhone 5 ''is'' scheduled to come out next year. And this article seems to more or less dance around the fact that the iPhone 4S is the '''Siri''', and all it's functions. This should definitely be fixed, as I shall do. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/198.228.235.188|198.228.235.188]] ([[User talk:198.228.235.188|talk]]) 18:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:iPhone5.com is now terminated and iPhone 5 is now cancelled, sorry.

{{Talk:IPhone 4S/GA1}}


What was the rationale behind moving this page [[Talk:iPhone 6s#Requested move 3 May 2023|along with the rest of the iPhone "s" articles]]? Unlike the other ones, the iPhone 4S was originally named with an uppercase "S"; switching to lowercase was a retroactive, stylistic name change. Wikipedia doesn't generally conform to retroactive name changes (emphasis on this being {{em|retroactive}}) or branding stylizations, especially when the original name continues to be [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=iPhone+4s%2CiPhone+4S&year_start=1880&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 widely preferred] (its usage declined after the name change but remained more popular nonetheless). See also [[WP:NAMECHANGES]], which isn't exactly about retroactive changes, but it's the same logic. It also doesn't seem appropriate for the closer to say {{tqq|A small amount of opposition did emerge around the 4s title [...] but this opinion does not seem to have swayed the consensus.}} If there was opposition to this article in particular that was firmly grounded in policy ([[WP:COMMONNAME]]), the closer should have concluded that there was consensus to move [[iPhone 5s]], [[iPhone 5c]], and [[iPhone 6s]], but {{em|not}} [[iPhone 4s]]. RMs are not all-or-nothing and do not have to end with consensus to move or not move all the articles listed. [[User:InfiniteNexus|InfiniteNexus]] ([[User talk:InfiniteNexus|talk]]) 01:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
== iPhone 4S CPU frequency ==
Can someone PLEASE find an actual reliable source for it, the one that does NOT use a "GeekBench" benchmark results? I do not believe the "GeekBench" is a reliable enough program to use it as a reliable source of CPU frequency in mobile devices - for example, it produces different performance results from each run on the same exact hardware: compare [http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1032717 this] with [http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1032724 this], also note that "GeekBench" detects the CPU in iPhone 4S as "ARMv6" architecture, which is incorrect, same goes for the amount of RAM which this program detects. Also, [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/2 other unofficial sources] identify the A5 CPU inside the iPhone 4S as "1GHz", and I don't really see why they should be considered "less reliable" than random approximation generated by "GeekBench" program.[[Special:Contributions/98.113.47.15|98.113.47.15]] ([[User talk:98.113.47.15|talk]]) 00:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, I see what you mean, initial Huffington Post articles suggest that the iPhone 4S has a 1ghz processor whereas Anandtech which is relying on Geekbench suggest that it's clocked at 800mhz. I guess you can use inference and compare the iPad 2 benchmarks to the iPhone 4S to estimate the clock speed but that would constitute original research and inconsistencies may exist. How do you suggest we fix this? ''[[User:YuMaNuMa|YuMa]][[User talk:YuMaNuMa|NuMa]]'' <sup>[[w:Special:Contributions/YuMaNuMa|Contrib]] </sup> 08:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
::Well, since no reliable information seem to exist so far (aside from "random data"-generating GeekBench), then perhaps same should be indicated in an article, for example instead of using the "800" number we can use something like "variable frequency" or something like "approximately 800". Even Anandtech's own article (which uses GeekBench) has graphs where the CPU is labeled as "~800" because even he is not sure of precise frequency...

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I am an inexperienced Wikipedia editor but I read articles a lot but I would like to show here that iBookstore is also an online services in the summary info box. Thank you!

Motorola Xoom Comparison

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The Motorola Xoom uses an NVIDIA Tegra 2 T20 Dual Core processor at 1Ghz, as opposed to the Dual Core A5 mentioned. So, I deleted that information.

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References

  1. ^ "Motorola Xoom Specifications Table".

GLONASS

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Please, add information about new GLONASS signal reception (adio-based satellite navigation system operated for the Russian government by the Russian Space Forces; it is an alternative and complement to the United States' Global Positioning System (GPS)). S0me1 (talk)

Move

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What was the rationale behind moving this page along with the rest of the iPhone "s" articles? Unlike the other ones, the iPhone 4S was originally named with an uppercase "S"; switching to lowercase was a retroactive, stylistic name change. Wikipedia doesn't generally conform to retroactive name changes (emphasis on this being retroactive) or branding stylizations, especially when the original name continues to be widely preferred (its usage declined after the name change but remained more popular nonetheless). See also WP:NAMECHANGES, which isn't exactly about retroactive changes, but it's the same logic. It also doesn't seem appropriate for the closer to say A small amount of opposition did emerge around the 4s title [...] but this opinion does not seem to have swayed the consensus. If there was opposition to this article in particular that was firmly grounded in policy (WP:COMMONNAME), the closer should have concluded that there was consensus to move iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, and iPhone 6s, but not iPhone 4s. RMs are not all-or-nothing and do not have to end with consensus to move or not move all the articles listed. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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