Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Katt

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 03:54, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

George Katt

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Non-notable minor actor Orange Mike | Talk 17:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

• Delete - per nom, no evidence that subject meets WP:BIO guidelines. ukexpat (talk) 18:11, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
• delete at this time. i did find a primary source verification that he won the LA Film award, but there does not appear to be any third party coverage of that award or any of the other awards or nominations to show they are significant; nor any coverage of his appearance in films other than basic credit lising. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:27, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

• Comment Whoever made this page has his age wrong. He was born in 1975 or even before. Like most actors, it is likely he made the page to gain notoriety and have producers think he is younger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.172.25.138 (talk) 07:29, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

"He made the page to gain notoriety"? Presumably a malapropism, unless you think he deliberately tries to get a bad reputation. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

• Comment. The article is problematic because the subject of the article is in an editing conflict over content and is currently blocked. The subject has significant coverage in one reliable source: Interview in Greek Reporter. Looking at other coverage, it tends to be mentions in passing in film or theatre reviews, blog interviews, or comments in other non-reliable sources. He has an interview on Time Warner's "On the Beat", which appears to be a cable show. I'm not sure how important that show is, but we don't have an article on it, and there's little information available on the internet. I did note that at the start of the "On the Beat" interview he is described as "not a household name" - however, the interview appears to have been done in 2009. His films do not appear to be notable - the most recent is "In Montauk", made by an unknown independent film company, and directed by the little known Jonathan Spottiswoode. The film has not gathered reviews by any reliable or noteworthy sources. I think the subject is just bubbling under as regards notability, but he is not yet at the stage where a significant number of readers would be looking for an encyclopedia entry on him. The traffic to the article has been very minimal until the recent edit conflict. I don't think there is sufficient evidence to say that this is a definite keep, but neither is there a sufficient lack of evidence to say this is a definite delete. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 11:10, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
• Delete SilkTork, you are normally a very reliable and careful editor, but I think you have slipped up on this occasion. You describe the piece in Greek Reporter as "significant coverage in one reliable source". However, Greek Reporter's self-professed purpose is to serve as a medium for people of Greek background to publish self-promotional material. Just to quote one sentence from the "about" page on its website: "However, we will try to promote your name and reports as much as we can", and there is a lot more conveying the same message. By no stretch of the imagination is it either a reliable source or an independent source. That is the one source that you seem to regard as clearly good, but I'm afraid you are mistaken. The rest of your post seems to say, in effect, that there are various mentions in sources, but that you are unsure how much they are worth. My own searches, once I had filtered out hits for other people called "George Katt", turned up, apart from the "On the Beat" interview that you mentioned, the inevitable georgekatt.com, IMDb, FaceBook, YouTube, vimeo, and Twitter, and some clearly promotional sites, such as independentfilmnow.com, which says of itself "IndependentFilmNow is a new website dedicated to providing independent filmmakers a unique, comprehensive space to promote their work". So we seem to be left with the one interview in "On the Beat", the value of which you are doubtful about. My searches about "On the Beat" have failed to turn up anything to suggest that it's a particularly significant source, but even if we give it the benefit of the doubt, that one source comes nowhere near the substantial coverage in multiple sources that we need. My conclusion is that there really is no evidence anywhere of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

re the Greek Reporter and reliability -when I look at this page on the bottom right hand column, the submission portal is identified by the banner "YOU WRITE! WE DON'T EDIT" -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I didn't notice that, but it gives even more support to what I wrote. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:17, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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