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Please stop deleting the UFC event pages. Making "UFC Events for 2012" makes it difficult to easily find the information I come to Wikipedia looking for, and therefore is a bad idea. It's convenient having each UFC event have it's own wiki page in chronological order, and we've all gotten used to it. So please delete "UFC event for 2012" and let the UFC community on wikipedia continue to create individual event pages in chronological order. I don't see the point in making a resource more difficult to use and would appreciate if you stopped carrying this on, whether you find it easier, or it's to inflate your own ego. Thank you for listening 68.14.159.6 (talk) 18:14, 11 November 2012 (UTC)TheMikeMan , Die hard UFC fan, Wikipedia user[reply]

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Please add a <noinclude></noinclude> to {{pp-protected|reason=The AfD has closed but people persist in adding comments to it.|expiry=14 November 2013|small=yes}}, like this: <noinclude>{{pp-protected|reason=The AfD has closed but people persist in adding comments to it.|expiry=14 November 2013|small=yes}}</noinclude>. One page it is transcluded to appears at Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. Thank you. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:31, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done.—Kww(talk) 02:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, the delete argument was not thoroughly demonstrated. The problem folks, is that your arguments point to Wiki policy pages for justification but fail to point out the actual conflict. The funniest, but sad, point is that the Wiki policy for deletion clearly supports keeping the page(s).173.168.140.188 (talk) 01:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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-Please stop deleting the UFC event pages. Making "UFC Events for 2012" makes it difficult to easily find the information I come to Wikipedia looking for, and therefore is a bad idea. It's convenient having each UFC event have it's own wiki page in chronological order, and we've all gotten used to it. So please delete "UFC event for 2012" and let the UFC community on wikipedia continue to create individual event pages in chronological order. I don't see the point in making a resource more difficult to use and would appreciate if you stopped carrying this on, whether you find it easier, or it's to inflate your own ego. Thank you for listening [[Special:Contributions/68.14.159.6|68.14.159.6]] ([[User talk:68.14.159.6|talk]]) 18:14, 11 November 2012 (UTC)TheMikeMan , Die hard UFC fan, Wikipedia user
+Please stop deleting the UFC event pages. Making "UFC Events for 2012" makes it difficult to easily find the information I come to Wikipedia looking for, and therefore is a bad idea. It's convenient having each UFC event have it's own wiki page in chronological order, and we've all gotten used to it. So please delete "UFC event for 2012" and let the UFC community on wikipedia continue to create individual event pages in chronological order. I don't see the point in making a resource more difficult to use and would appreciate if you stopped carrying this on, whether you find it easier, or it's to inflate your own ego. Thank you for listening [[Special:Contributions/68.14.159.6|68.14.159.6]] ([[User talk:68.14.159.6|talk]]) 18:14, 11 November 2012 (UTC)TheMikeMan , Die hard UFC fan, Wikipedia user
-== UFC 155 Deserves Its Place on Wikipedia ==
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-UFC 155 is an event. Like all other events, it has its beginnings, its developments, its culmination to the spectacle we witness on its projected date. Its date. This is an important piece of information in establishing an event, as all of its intertwining threads must be sewn by this day. If these details that emerge to hallmark the ongoing timeline of the creation of the event aren't of merit to document as all other facts are documented on Wikipedia, then why do we treat other ongoing events like Hurricane Sandy and the 2012 Presidential Election in such a way? Just as Wikipedia notes damage reported by Sandy, Wikipedia, as it sensibly has been, may document that both Junior Dos Santos and Cain Velasquez had agreed to a proposed bout offered by the UFC for this noted event, in its noted venue, on its noted date. And should anyone argue that such a detail has no belonging on Wikipedia, then why should there remain an existence to the UFC 151 article? That article contains nothing more than plans the UFC had for an event that has not taken place, just like UFC 155. And while that thought lingers in your thinking box, might I bring to light the existence of a poster I possess that had been given to me following a screening of a UFC Pay-Per-View at a bar. This poster is for UFC 119: Mir vs Nogueira II; however, Mir and Nogueira did not meet each other for the second time at that event. The poster represents what was planned, and at one time was what we, the fans, thought we would be watching on September 25th, 2010. The poster is a documentation of the development of UFC 119, on a physical medium that can referenced to this day, no differently than the poster of the phantom UFC 151 sitting in the top right of Wikipedia's UFC 151 article. Should the Dos Santos-Velasquez fight fall through, then Wikipedia can document that the proposed bout was scrapped, as well as any other changes in the event's development, similarly to Wikipedia documenting the numbers of lives taken in an ongoing disaster even though the number changes as each day passes.
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+Please add a <nowiki><noinclude></noinclude></nowiki> to <nowiki>{{pp-protected|reason=The AfD has closed but people persist in adding comments to it.|expiry=14 November 2013|small=yes}}</nowiki>, like this: <nowiki><noinclude>{{pp-protected|reason=The AfD has closed but people persist in adding comments to it.|expiry=14 November 2013|small=yes}}</noinclude></nowiki>. One page it is transcluded to appears at [[:Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates]]. Thank you. [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]].<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#6B8E23;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> Grammatically incorrect? '''Correct it!''' [[User:Tbhotch/EN|<u>See terms and conditions.</u>]] 02:31, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
+:Done.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 02:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
+Obviously, the delete argument was not thoroughly demonstrated. The problem folks, is that your arguments point to Wiki policy pages for justification but fail to point out the actual conflict. The funniest, but sad, point is that the Wiki policy for deletion clearly supports keeping the page(s).[[Special:Contributions/173.168.140.188|173.168.140.188]] ([[User talk:173.168.140.188|talk]]) 01:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
-There is a community who cares for this information, thereby validating its use on Wikipedia, and here has been the popular choice, if not only choice, for the compilation of all advancements made in creating these UFC events we anticipate with fervor. The facts these details are subject to change does not undermine Wikipedia's vision. The documentation of these details is not journalism. Any journalistic endeavors are done by journalists for their respective format, whether it be magazine or website. Their collected information, sometimes labeled as rumor, generally comes from the mouths of either UFC executives, fighters who are participating on the card, or other businessmen involved. These individuals make their statements, they are reported by journalists, and these facts are noted on Wikipedia. Once the night of the event comes to pass, none of this documented information is subject to change. It has its place of permanence on Wikipedia because none of it was wrong. It belongs here.