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==The Nigerian Ǝ's Orientation== |
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:Yeah. [[User:Gupdoo3|Gupdoo3]] ([[User talk:Gupdoo3|talk]]) 17:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC) |
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In the article it is said that "a similar letter with identical minuscule ǝ is used in the Pan-Nigerian alphabet, but has the capital form majuscule Ǝ, based on a horizontally flipped majuscule E." Is there any good source that can be cited in order to back up the statement that the letter is based on a '''horizontally flipped''' E as opposed to an E that's been '''rotated''' just like the little e is? Since any object having a horizontal axis of symmetry will look the same when it is flipped horizontally as it does when rotated 180 degrees around its center, and since the lower-case e is rotated 180 degrees around its center, why should the upper-case Pan-Nigerian letter be described as having a different transformation applied to it than the lower-case? |
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:: Did you try a leading zero, i.e. {{key|Alt|0 3 9 9}} and {{key|Alt|0 6 0 1}}? — [[User:Crissov|Christoph]] [[User talk:Crissov|Päper]] 10:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
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-- [[User:SidShakal|SidShakal]] 08:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:Because it is. A rotated majuscule E would look different; the middle bar would be lower than center and the top bar would be longer than the bottom bar, which would be ugly. Then again, a well-designed serif font wouldn't just use a horizontally flipped majuscule E either, since the serifs would have to be adjusted (many fonts have asymmetric serifs on e.g. the upper case letter T), but "flipped" still describes it better than "rotated". :-) - [[User:I do not exist|<span style="color:teal">∅</span>]] ([[User talk:I do not exist|<span style="color: gold; font-weight: bold;">∅</span>]]), 22:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== proposed split == |
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::Ah! Good point. I read using a sans serif font which places the middle line directly in the center and the top and bottom lines the same length. -- [[User:SidShakal|SidShakal]] ([[User talk:SidShakal|talk]]) 05:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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So let's discuss it. How would you divide the content between ''Ə'' and ''Ǝ''? —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 15:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC) |
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:I agree that this should be changed to '''rotated''' rather than flipped. The argument that technically were an ''E'' character flipped, its middle bar would have slightly differently placement, is irrelevant. The statement is regarding the character's origin. It is '''based''' on a rotated ''E'', though it well may now more accurately match a flipped ''E''. Were its origin based on a flipped ''E'' character, would not its lowercase look flipped (not rotated, as it does) as well? —[[User:Startswithj|Startswithj]] ([[User talk:Startswithj|talk]]) 05:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:That is a great question. I would relocate the capitalized schwa content to either [[Schwa]] or [[Mid central vowel]]. As for the “Ǝ”, I could only think of it as a redirect for the Eminem video stylized as such.—Bde1982 17:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC) |
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== Superscript ᵊ == |
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[[ᵊ]] redirects here, but its use ([[IPA]]: [[mid central vowel|mid-central vowel release]]) is not covered in the prose and it’s also not mentioned in the [[schwa]] article. — [[User:Crissov|Christoph]] [[User talk:Crissov|Päper]] 09:53, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
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: I have now added some information on the superscript variant. Alas, the subscript [[ₔ]] redirects to [[Unicode subscripts and superscripts]] instead. How should we deal with this? — [[User:Crissov|Christoph]] [[User talk:Crissov|Päper]] 10:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
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== MacOS == |
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Əə — yep, the method I described still works, provided (as I said) that the “Extended” keymap is selected. —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 01:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== "[[:Ǝ́]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] == |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=%C6%8E%CC%81&redirect=no Ǝ́]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect guidelines]]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 23#Ǝ́}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer]][[User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4|1234qwer]][[Special:Contribs/1234qwer1234qwer4|4]] 22:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Alt codes
[edit]The article's suggested alt codes of ALT 399 and ALT 601 give Å and Y for me. Anyone else find the same thing? Mglovesfun (talk) 11:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah. Gupdoo3 (talk) 17:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- Did you try a leading zero, i.e. Alt+0 3 9 9 and Alt+0 6 0 1? — Christoph Päper 10:04, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
proposed split
[edit]So let's discuss it. How would you divide the content between Ə and Ǝ? —Tamfang (talk) 15:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
- That is a great question. I would relocate the capitalized schwa content to either Schwa or Mid central vowel. As for the “Ǝ”, I could only think of it as a redirect for the Eminem video stylized as such.—Bde1982 17:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Superscript ᵊ
[edit]ᵊ redirects here, but its use (IPA: mid-central vowel release) is not covered in the prose and it’s also not mentioned in the schwa article. — Christoph Päper 09:53, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have now added some information on the superscript variant. Alas, the subscript ₔ redirects to Unicode subscripts and superscripts instead. How should we deal with this? — Christoph Päper 10:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
MacOS
[edit]Əə — yep, the method I described still works, provided (as I said) that the “Extended” keymap is selected. —Tamfang (talk) 01:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
"Ǝ́" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]The redirect Ǝ́ has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 23 § Ǝ́ until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)