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{{Short description|English rock band (1982–1987)}}
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| caption = The Smiths in 1984. From left to right: [[Andy Rourke]], [[Morrissey]], [[Johnny Marr]] and [[w:Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]].
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[[Indie pop]]<ref>{{cite web |last1=Monroe |first1=Jazz |title=The Smiths Bassist Andy Rourke Dies at 59 |url=https://pitchfork.com/news/the-smiths-bassist-andy-rourke-dies-at-59/amp/ |website=Pitchfork |date=19 May 2023 |access-date=23 May 2023}}</ref>|[[indie rock]]<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-smiths-mn0000899530/biography|title=The Smiths {{!}} Biography & History|last=Erlewine|first=Stephen Thomas|author-link=Stephen Thomas Erlewine|website=[[AllMusic]]|access-date=25 February 2020|archive-date=15 December 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181215175459/https://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-smiths-mn0000899530/biography|url-status=live}}</ref>|[[jangle pop]]<ref>{{cite book|last=Bannister|first=Matthew|title=White Boys, White Noise: Masculinities and 1980s Indie Guitar Rock|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Lt2hAgAAQBAJ|year=2013|publisher=Ashgate Publishing, Ltd.|isbn=978-1-4094-9374-7|pages=71–72, 87, 124–125|author-link=Matthew Bannister (musician)}}</ref>|[[post-punk]]<ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/articles/review/5915487/the-smiths-at-30-classic-track-by-track-review|title='The Smiths' at 30: Classic Track-By-Track Review|last=Payne|first=Chris|date=20 February 2014|magazine=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]|access-date=25 February 2020|archive-date=23 November 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201123225148/https://www.billboard.com/articles/review/5915487/the-smiths-at-30-classic-track-by-track-review|url-status=live}}</ref>|[[alternative rock]]<ref name="Ref-1"/>}}
|genre = [[Indie pop]], [[Alternative rock]]
| discography = {{hlist|[[The Smiths discography|Albums and singles]]|[[List of songs recorded by the Smiths|songs]]}}
|years_active = 1982–1987
| years_active = 1982–1987
|label = [[Rough Trade Records|Rough Trade]], [[Sire Records|Sire]], [[Warner Bros. Records|Warner Bros.]]
| label = {{hlist|[[Rough Trade Records|Rough Trade]]|[[Sire Records|Sire]]}}
|associated_acts = [[The Adult Net]], [[Moondog One]]
| website = {{URL|officialsmiths.co.uk}}
|past_members = <!--DO NOT CHANGE. MEMBERS ARE LISTED IN ORDER REQUIRED UNDER WIKIPEDIA GUIDELINES.-->[[Morrissey]]<br />[[Johnny Marr]]<br />[[Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]]<br />Dale Hibbert<br />[[Andy Rourke]]<br />[[Craig Gannon]]
| past_members = {{plainlist|
* [[Morrissey]]
* [[Johnny Marr]]
* [[Andy Rourke]]
* [[Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]]
* (see [[#Members|Members]] for others)
}}
}}
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'''The Smiths''' were an English [[indie pop]] band, formed in [[Manchester]] in 1982. Based on the song writing partnership of vocalist [[Morrissey]] and guitarist [[Johnny Marr]], the band also included bassist [[Andy Rourke]] and drummer [[Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]]. Critics have called them the most important alternative rock band to emerge from the British [[independent music]] scene of the 1980s.<ref>Simon Reynolds, ''Rip It Up and Start Again: Postpunk 1978–1984'' (London: Penguin, 2005), p. 392; and Stephen Thomas Erlewine, [http://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-smiths-p5466/biography "The Smiths: Biography",] ''Allmusic''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
'''The Smiths''' were<!--not "was". In British English bands are plural.--> an English [[Rock music|rock]] band formed in [[Manchester]] in 1982, composed of [[Morrissey]] (vocals), [[Johnny Marr]] (guitar), [[Andy Rourke]] (bass) and [[Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]] (drums). Morrissey and Marr formed the band’s songwriting partnership. The Smiths are regarded as one of the most important acts to emerge from 1980s British [[independent music]].
The group was signed to the independent record label [[Rough Trade Records]], on which they released four studio albums, several compilations, and numerous non-LP singles. Although they had limited commercial success outside the UK while they were still together, and never released a single that charted higher than number 10 in their home country, The Smiths won a significant following, and remain cult and commercial favourites. The band broke up in 1987 and have turned down several offers to reunite.

The Smiths signed to the independent label [[Rough Trade Records]] in 1983 and released their debut album, ''[[The Smiths (album)|The Smiths]]'', in 1984. Their focus on a guitar, bass and drum sound, fusing 1960s rock and [[post-punk]], was a rejection of the [[synth-pop]] sound predominant at the time. Several Smiths singles reached the top 20 of the [[UK Singles Chart]], and all their studio albums reached the top five of the [[UK Albums Chart]], including the number-one album ''[[Meat Is Murder]]'' (1985).

The band achieved mainstream success in Europe with ''[[The Queen Is Dead]]'' (1986) and ''[[Strangeways, Here We Come]]'' (1987), which both entered the top 20 of the [[European Albums Chart]].<ref>{{cite magazine|title=European Hot 100 Albums Chart|magazine=Music & Media|date=26 July 1986|url=https://www.americanradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/80s/1986/M&M-1986-07-26.pdf|access-date=14 Oct 2019|page=26|archive-date=10 January 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210110024750/https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/80s/1986/M&M-1986-07-26.pdf|url-status=live}}<br />{{cite magazine|title=European Hot 100 Albums Chart|magazine=Music & Media|date=31 October 1987|url=https://www.americanradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/80s/1987/M&M-1987-10-31.pdf|access-date=14 Oct 2019|page=26|archive-date=10 January 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210110024751/https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/80s/1987/M&M-1987-10-31.pdf|url-status=live}}</ref> In 1986, the band briefly became a five-piece with the addition of guitarist [[Craig Gannon]].

Internal tensions led to the Smiths' breakup in 1987, followed by public lawsuits over royalties. The members each said that the band would never reunite and refused all offers to do so. Rourke died in 2023.


==History==
==History==
===1982: Formation and early performances===
In May 1982, [[Johnny Marr]] and his friend Steve Pomfret went to the home of [[Steven Morrissey]] in [[Stretford]] to invite him to form a band.<ref name=":0">{{cite book|author=Simon Goddard|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ImK_BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT16|title=Songs That Saved Your Life|date=1 February 2013|publisher=Titan Books|isbn=9781781162590|page=16|access-date=27 September 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210110024753/https://books.google.com/books?id=ImK_BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT16|archive-date=10 January 2021|url-status=live}}</ref> Marr and Morrissey had met at a [[Patti Smith]] gig at Manchester's [[O2 Apollo Manchester|Apollo Theatre]] on 31 August 1978, when Marr was 14 and Morrissey was 19.<ref name=":0" /> They bonded through their love of poetry and literature.{{sfnm|1a1=Bret|1y=2004|1p=32|2a1=Goddard|2y=2006|2pp=16–17}} A fan of the [[New York Dolls]], Marr had been impressed that Morrissey had written a book on the band and was inspired to turn up on his doorstep following the example of [[Jerry Leiber]], who had formed his working partnership with [[Mike Stoller]] after turning up at Stoller's door.{{sfnm|1a1=Bret|1y=2004|1p=32|2a1=Goddard|2y=2006|2p=16}} According to Morrissey: "We got on absolutely famously. We were very similar in drive."<ref name="DIDiscs">{{cite episode |title=Desert Island Discs with Morrissey |url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/d8176a1c#b00p068y |series=Desert Island Discs |series-link=Desert Island Discs |network=[[BBC]] |station=[[BBC Radio 4|Radio 4]] |airdate=29 November 2009 |access-date=25 December 2019 |archive-date=3 April 2019 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190403045222/http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/d8176a1c#b00p068y |url-status=live }}</ref> The two found that they were fans of many of the same bands.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=17}} When Marr looked through Morrissey's singles collection, he found [[the Monochrome Set]], a band they both admired.<ref>{{Cite news |last=Robb |first=John |date=2009-01-09 |title=The Monochrome Set: Remembering the band that history forgot |work=The Guardian |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2009/jan/09/the-monochrome-set-remembered |access-date=2023-04-23 |issn=0261-3077}}</ref> The next day, Morrissey phoned Marr to confirm that he would be interested in forming a band with him.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=17}}


A few days later, Morrissey and Marr held their first rehearsal in Marr's rented attic room in [[Bowdon, Greater Manchester|Bowdon]]. Morrissey provided the lyrics for "Don't Blow Your Own Horn", the first song that they worked on; however, they decided against retaining the song, with Marr commenting that "neither of us liked it very much".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=17}} The next song that they worked on was "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle", which again was based on lyrics produced by Morrissey. Marr based the tempo on the Patti Smith song "Kimberly", and they recorded it on Marr's TEAC four-track cassette recorder. The third track that the duo worked on was "[[Suffer Little Children]]".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=18}} Alongside these original compositions, Morrissey suggested that the band produce a cover of "I Want a Boy for My Birthday", a song by the 1960s American girl band [[the Cookies]]; although he had never heard of the song before, Marr agreed, enjoying the subversive element of having a male vocalist sing it, and the song was recorded on his TEAC machine.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=22}}
===Formation and early singles===
The Smiths were formed in early 1982 by [[Morrissey|Steven Patrick Morrissey]], a writer who had briefly fronted [[punk rock]] band [[The Nosebleeds]]; and [[Johnny Marr|John Maher]], a guitarist and songwriter. Maher changed his name to Johnny Marr to avoid confusion with [[Buzzcocks]] drummer [[John Maher (Buzzcocks drummer)|John Maher]], and Morrissey performed under his surname alone. After recording several demo tapes with Simon Wolstencroft (later of [[The Fall (band)|The Fall]]) on drums, Morrissey and Marr recruited drummer Mike Joyce in the autumn of 1982. Joyce had formerly been a member of punk bands The Hoax and Victim. They also added bass player Dale Hibbert, who provided the group with demo recording facilities at the studio where he worked as a [[recording engineer]].<ref>Colin Larkin (ed.), ''The Encyclopedia of Popular Music'', 4th edn. (New York: Oxford UP, 2006), vol. VII, p. 570.</ref> Hibbert was replaced after one gig by Marr's friend Andy Rourke, because Marr felt that neither Hibbert's bass playing nor his personality fitted the group.


{{Quote box|width=25em|align=right|quote="It's still really clear. It was a sunny day, about one o'clock. There was no advance phone call or anything. I just knocked and he opened the door. As soon as the door opened, Pommy [Pomfret] took two very firm steps back. Which is one of the things that got me to talk so fast, it was just plain exuberance."|source=— Marr, on arriving at Morrissey's door{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=17}} }}
The band picked their name in part as a reaction against those used by [[synthpop]] bands of the early 1980s, such as [[Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark]] and [[Spandau Ballet]], which they considered pretentious. In a 1984 interview Morrissey said that he chose The Smiths "because it was the most ordinary name" and because he thought that it was "time that the ordinary folk of the world showed their faces."<ref>The interview was broadcast on the [[TV-am]] youth program, ''Data Run''. There is a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rolR4Ou8t8w vidcap] at YouTube, and a [http://web.archive.org/web/20061102082332/http://www.hiddenbyrags.com/mminterview1984.html transcript] at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, where it is unaccountably identified as "MM Interview 1984". Both retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Signing to indie label [[Rough Trade Records]], they released their first single, "[[Hand in Glove]]", in May 1983. The record was championed by DJ [[John Peel]], as were all of their later singles, but failed to chart. The follow-up singles "[[This Charming Man]]" and "[[What Difference Does It Make?]]" fared better when they reached numbers 25 and 12 respectively on the [[UK Singles Chart]].<ref name=single>[http://www.theofficialcharts.com/artist/_/smiths/#singles The Smiths Uk Charts]</ref>


By late 1982, Morrissey had chosen the band name the Smiths.{{sfnm|1a1=Bret|1y=2004|1p=34|2a1=Goddard|2y=2006|2p=20}} He said later that "it was the most ordinary name and I thought it was time that the ordinary folk of the world showed their faces".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=20}} Around the time of the band's formation, Morrissey decided that he would be publicly known only by his surname,{{sfnm|1a1=Bret|1y=2004|1p=34|2a1=Simpson|2y=2004|2p=42}} with Marr referring to him as "Mozzer" or "Moz".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=21}} In 1983, he forbade those around him from using the name "Steven", which he despised.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=21}}
===''The Smiths''===
In February 1984, the group released their debut album ''[[The Smiths (album)|The Smiths]]'', which reached number two on the [[UK Albums Chart]].<ref name=album>[http://www.theofficialcharts.com/artist/_/smiths/#albums The Smiths Uk charts albums]</ref> Both "Reel Around the Fountain" and "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" met with controversy, with some tabloid newspapers alleging the songs were suggestive of [[paedophilia]], a claim strongly denied by the group.


After remaining with the band for several rehearsals, Pomfret departed acrimoniously.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=19}} He was replaced by the bass player Dale Hibbert, who worked at Manchester's Decibel Studios, where Marr had met him while recording Freak Party's demo.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=20}} Through Hibbert, the Smiths recorded their first demo at Decibel one night in August 1982.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=23}} Aided by drummer [[Simon Wolstencroft]], whom Marr had worked with in Freak Party, the band recorded both "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" and "Suffer Little Children".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=23–24}} Wolstencroft was not interested in joining the band, so following auditions [[Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]] joined; he later revealed that he was under the influence of [[Psilocybin|magic mushrooms]] during his audition.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=25–26}} Meanwhile, Morrissey took the demo recording to [[Factory Records]], but Factory's [[Tony Wilson]] was not interested.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=26–27}}
The album was followed the same year by the non-album singles "[[Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now]]" and "[[William, It Was Really Nothing]]", which featured "[[How Soon Is Now?]]" on its B-side. Securing the band's first top ten placing, "[[Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now]]" was also significant for marking the beginning of engineer and producer [[Stephen Street]]'s long-term working relationship with the band.<ref name="hitquarters.com">{{cite web|url=http://www.hitquarters.com/index.php3?page=intrview/opar/intrview_StephenStreet.html |title=Interview With Stephen Street |publisher=[[HitQuarters]]|date=27 September 2005 |accessdate=12 May 2010}}</ref>


In October 1982, the Smiths gave their first public performance as a support act for [[Blue Rondo à la Turk (band)|Blue Rondo à la Turk]] during a student music and fashion show, "An Evening of Pure Pleasure", at Manchester's [[The Ritz (Manchester)|Ritz]].{{sfnm|1a1=Bret|1y=2004|1pp=34, 35|2a1=Goddard|2y=2006|2p=27}} During the performance, they played both their own compositions and "I Want a Boy for My Birthday".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=28}} Morrissey had organised the gig's aesthetic; the band came onstage to [[Klaus Nomi]]'s version of [[Henry Purcell]]'s "The Cold Song" playing through the venue's sound system before his friend James Maker stepped onstage to introduce the band.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=27–29}} Maker remained onstage during the performance, relating that "I was given a pair of maracas – an optional extra – and carte blanche. There were no instructions – I think it was generally accepted I would ''improvise''... I was there to drink red wine, make extraneous hand gestures and keep well within the tight, chalked circle that Morrissey had drawn around me."{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=28–29}} Hibbert was allegedly unhappy with what he perceived as the band's "gay" aesthetic; in turn, Morrissey and Marr were unhappy with his bass playing, so he was replaced by Marr's old schoolfriend [[Andy Rourke]].{{sfnm|1a1=Bret|1y=2004|1p=36|2a1=Goddard|2y=2006|2pp=27–30}} Hibbert denies that he objected to the band being perceived as gay, and said he was not sure why he was asked to leave.<ref>{{cite book| last= Hibbert| first= D |year= 2015| title= Boy Interrupted. Memoir of a former Smith| publisher= Pomona | isbn= 978-1-904590-30-9}}</ref>
More controversy followed when "[[Suffer Little Children]]", the B-side to "[[Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now]]", touched on the theme of the [[Moors murders]]. This caused an uproar after the grandfather of one of the murdered children heard the song on a [[Public house|pub]] [[jukebox]] and felt the band was trying to commercialise the murders. After meeting with Morrissey, he accepted that the song was a sincere exploration of the impact of the murders. Morrissey subsequently established a friendship with Ann West, the mother of victim Lesley Ann Downey, who is mentioned by name in the song.<ref>See the discussion of [http://foreverill.com/disc/heaven.htm "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now"] at ''Forever Ill''; and the [http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/lyrics/smiths-slc.htm "Suffer Little Children"] lyrics at ''Passions Just Like Mine''. Both retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>


In December 1982, the Smiths recorded their second demo, at the Drone Studios in [[Chorlton-cum-Hardy]]; the tracks recorded were "[[What Difference Does It Make?]]", "Handsome Devil" and "Miserable Lie".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=30–31}} This was used as their audition tape for the record company [[EMI]], who turned the band down.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=31}} The band continued to practice, this time at the upstairs of the Portland Street Crazy Face Clothing company, a space secured by their new manager Joe Moss.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=32}} By Christmas, they had created four new songs: "These Things Take Time", "What Do You See in Him?", "Jeane" and "A Matter of Opinion", the last of which they soon scrapped.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=32–33}} Their next gig was Manchester's Manhattan in late January 1983, and although Maker would again appear as a go-go dancer, this was the last time that he did so.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=33}} In early February, they performed their third gig, at the [[Haçienda]].{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=34}}
The year ended with the compilation album ''[[Hatful of Hollow]]''. This collected singles, B-sides and the versions of songs that had been recorded throughout the previous year for the Peel and Jensen shows.


=== 1983–1984: Rough Trade, "Hand in Glove", and first album ===
===''Meat Is Murder''===
Early in 1985 the band released their second album, ''[[Meat Is Murder]]''. This album was more strident and political than its predecessor, including the pro-vegetarian title track (Morrissey forbade the rest of the group from being photographed eating meat), the light-hearted republicanism of "Nowhere Fast", and the anti-[[corporal punishment]] "The Headmaster Ritual" and "Barbarism Begins at Home". The band had also grown more diverse musically, with Marr adding rockabilly riffs to "[[Rusholme]] Ruffians" and Rourke playing a funk bass solo on "Barbarism Begins at Home". The album was preceded by the re-release of the B-side "How Soon is Now?" as a single, and although that song was not on the original [[Gramophone record|LP]], it has been added to subsequent releases. ''Meat Is Murder'' was the band's only album (barring compilations) to reach number one in the UK charts.<ref name=album/> In 2003, the album was ranked number 295 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.


Marr and Rourke visited London to hand a cassette of their recordings to [[Geoff Travis]] of the independent record label [[Rough Trade Records]].{{sfn|Marr|2016|pp=275–276}} Travis agreed to cut their song "[[Hand in Glove]]" as a single.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=42}} For the cover, Morrissey insisted on a homoerotic photograph by [[Jim French (photographer)|Jim French]] which he had found in Margaret Walters' ''The Nude Male''.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=42}} The single was released in May 1983,{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=38}} and sold well for the next 18 months, but did not chart in the [[UK Top 40]].{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=43}} Among the audience at the Smiths' second London concert, at the [[University of London Union]], was [[John Walters (broadcaster)|John Walters]], the producer of [[John Peel]]'s BBC Radio 1 show: he invited the band to record a session for the programme. Peel said: "You couldn't immediately tell what records they'd been listening to. That's fairly unusual, very rare indeed... It was that aspect of the Smiths that I found most impressive."{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=43}} Following this radio exposure, the Smiths gained their first interviews, in the music magazines ''[[NME]]'' and ''[[Sounds (magazine)|Sounds]]''.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=43}}
Morrissey brought a political stance to many of his interviews, courting further controversy. Among his targets were the [[Premiership of Margaret Thatcher|Thatcher government]], the monarchy, and the famine relief project [[Band Aid (band)|Band Aid]]. Morrissey famously quipped of the last, "One can have great concern for the people of [[Ethiopia]], but it's another thing to inflict daily torture on the people of England"<ref>{{cite web| date=18 November 2004 | title=Band Aid vs. Morrissey&nbsp;... | format=http | work=Overyourhead.co.uk | url=http://www.overyourhead.co.uk/2004/11/band-aid-vs.html | accessdate =22 April 2007}}</ref> ("torture" being a reference to the music that resulted from the project). The subsequent single-only release "[[Shakespeare's Sister (song)|Shakespeare's Sister]]" reached number 26 on the UK Singles Chart, although the only single taken from the album, "[[That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore]]", was less successful, barely making the top 50.<ref name=single/>


Travis travelled to Manchester to meet the band at their Crazy Face rehearsal space and sign a record contract with Rough Trade.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=46–47}} Morrissey and Marr signed it on behalf of the band, and there was no discussion of how earnings would be divided.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=47}} Travis brought in [[Troy Tate]] of [[the Teardrop Explodes]], and under his supervision the band recorded their first album, at the Elephant Studios in [[Wapping]], [[East London]].{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=47–50}} Rough Trade were unhappy with the album and Tate's production, insisting the band rerecord it with a new producer, [[John Porter (musician, born 1947)|John Porter]].{{sfn|Goddard|2006|pp=50–51}} The singles "[[This Charming Man]]" and "[[What Difference Does It Make?]]" reached numbers 25 and 12 on the [[UK Singles Chart]].<ref name="guinness book">{{Cite book|editor-last=Roberts|editor-first=David |title=British Hit Singles & Albums|publisher=[[HIT Entertainment]]|year=2006|edition=19th|pages=509–510|isbn=1-904994-10-5|title-link=Guinness Book of British Hit Singles & Albums}}</ref> Aided by praise from the music press and a series of studio sessions for Peel and [[David Jensen]] at [[BBC Radio 1]], the Smiths began to build a dedicated fanbase.{{Citation needed|date=May 2021}}
===''The Queen Is Dead''===
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During 1985 the band completed lengthy tours of the UK and the US while recording their next studio record, ''[[The Queen Is Dead]]''. The album was released in June 1986, shortly after the single "[[Bigmouth Strikes Again]]". The single again featured Marr's strident acoustic guitar rhythms and lead melody guitar lines with wide leaps. ''The Queen Is Dead'' reached number two in the UK charts,<ref name=album/> and consisted of a mixture of mordant bleakness (e.g. "Never Had No One Ever", which seemed to play up to stereotypes of the band), dry humour (e.g. "Frankly, Mr. Shankly", allegedly a message to Rough Trade boss [[Geoff Travis]] disguised as a letter of resignation from a worker to his superior), and synthesis of both, such as in "[[There Is a Light That Never Goes Out]]" and "Cemetry Gates".


The Smiths generated controversy when [[Garry Bushell]] of ''[[The Sun (United Kingdom)|The Sun]]'' tabloid alleged their B-side "Handsome Devil" was an endorsement of [[paedophilia]].{{sfnm|1a1=Simpson|1y=2004|1p=108|2a1=Goddard|2y=2006|2pp=35–36}} The band denied this, with Morrissey stating the song "has nothing to do with children, and certainly nothing to do with child-molesting".{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=37}}[[File:The Smiths (1984 Sire publicity photo) 001.jpg|thumb|The Smiths in 1984]]
However, all was not well within the group. A legal dispute with Rough Trade had delayed the album by almost seven months (it had been completed in November 1985), and Marr was beginning to feel the stress of the band's exhausting touring and recording schedule. He later told ''NME'', "'Worse for wear' wasn't the half of it: I was extremely ill. By the time the tour actually finished it was all getting a little bit&nbsp;... dangerous. I was just drinking more than I could handle."<ref name="mainstream">Kelly, Danny. "Exile on Mainstream". ''NME''. 14 February 1987.</ref> Meanwhile, Rourke was fired from the band in early 1986 due to his use of heroin. He allegedly received notice of his dismissal via a [[Post-it note]] stuck to the windscreen of his car. It read, "Andy – you have left The Smiths. Goodbye and good luck, Morrissey."<ref>John Harris, "Trouble at Mill", ''[[Mojo (magazine)|Mojo]]'', April 2001. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey himself, however, denies this. Rourke was replaced on bass by [[Craig Gannon]] (formerly a member of Scottish [[New Wave music|New Wave]] band [[Aztec Camera]]), but was reinstated after only a fortnight. Gannon stayed in the band, switching to rhythm guitar. This five-piece recorded the singles "[[Panic (The Smiths song)|Panic]]" and "[[Ask (song)|Ask]]" (the latter with [[Kirsty MacColl]] on backing vocals) which reached numbers 11 and 14 respectively on the UK Singles Chart,<ref name=single/> and toured the UK. After the tour ended in October 1986, Gannon left the band.
In February 1984, the Smiths released their debut album, ''[[The Smiths (album)|The Smiths]]'', which reached number two on the [[UK Albums Chart]].<ref name=album>{{cite web|url=http://www.theofficialcharts.com/artist/_/smiths/#albums|title=The Smiths Uk charts albums|website=Theofficialcharts.com|access-date=20 October 2017|archive-date=17 February 2011|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110217193040/http://www.theofficialcharts.com/artist/_/smiths/#albums|url-status=live}}</ref> "Reel Around the Fountain" and "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" met with controversy, with some tabloid newspapers alleging the songs were suggestive of [[paedophilia]], a claim strongly denied by the group.<ref name=":1" /> In March 1984, the Smiths performed on [[Channel 4]] music program ''[[The Tube (1982 TV series)|The Tube]]''.{{sfn|Goddard|2006|p=45}}


The album was followed the same year by the non-album singles "[[Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now]]" and "[[William, It Was Really Nothing]]", which featured "[[How Soon Is Now?]]" on its B-side. Securing the band's first top ten placing, "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" was also significant for marking the beginning of engineer and producer [[Stephen Street]]'s long-term working relationship with the band.<ref name="hitquarters.com">{{cite web |url=http://www.hitquarters.com/index.php3?page=intrview/opar/intrview_StephenStreet.html |title=Interview With Stephen Street |publisher=[[HitQuarters]] |date=27 September 2005 |access-date=12 May 2010 |archive-date=14 March 2012 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120314061930/http://www.hitquarters.com/index.php3?page=intrview/opar/intrview_StephenStreet.html |url-status=live }}</ref>
The group had become frustrated with Rough Trade and sought a record deal with a major label. Marr told ''NME'' in early 1987, "Every single label came to see us. It was small-talk, bribes, the whole number. I really enjoyed it." The band ultimately signed with [[EMI]], which drew criticism from their fanbase and from elements of the music press.<ref name="mainstream" />


More controversy followed when "[[Suffer Little Children]]", the B-side to "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now", touched on the theme of the [[Moors murders]]. This caused an uproar after the grandfather of one of the murdered children heard the song on a [[pub]] [[jukebox]] and felt the band was trying to commercialise the murders. After meeting with Morrissey, he accepted that the song was a sincere exploration of the impact of the murders. Morrissey subsequently established a friendship with Ann West, the mother of victim Lesley Ann Downey, who is mentioned by name in the song.<ref>See the discussion of [http://foreverill.com/disc/heaven.htm "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now"] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080926031909/http://foreverill.com/disc/heaven.htm |date=26 September 2008 }} at ''Forever Ill''; and the [http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/lyrics/smiths-slc.htm "Suffer Little Children"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120206003624/http://passionsjustlikemine.com/lyrics/smiths-slc.htm |date=6 February 2012 }} lyrics at ''Passions Just Like Mine''. Both retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
===''Strangeways, Here We Come'' and break-up===
In early 1987 the single "[[Shoplifters of the World Unite]]" was released and reached number 12 on the UK Singles Chart.<ref name=single/> It was followed by a second compilation, ''[[The World Won't Listen]]''&nbsp;– the title was Morrissey's comment on his frustration with the band's lack of mainstream recognition, although the album reached number two in the charts<ref name=album/> – and the single "[[Sheila Take a Bow]]", the band's second (and last during the band's lifetime) UK top-10 hit.<ref name=single/> Another compilation, ''[[Louder Than Bombs]]'', was intended for the overseas market and covered much the same material as ''The World Won't Listen'', with the addition of "Sheila Take a Bow" and material from ''Hatful of Hollow'', as that compilation was yet to be released in the U.S.


The year ended with the release of the compilation album ''[[Hatful of Hollow]]''. This collected singles, B-sides and tracks recorded throughout the previous year for the Peel and Jensen radio shows.
Despite their continued success, a variety of tensions emerged within the band to threaten their split. Johnny Marr was exhausted, on the verge of alcoholism and took a break from the band in June 1987 which he felt was negatively perceived by the other Smiths. In July 1987, Marr left the group permanently because he thought an ''NME'' article entitled "Smiths to Split" was planted by Morrissey, when in fact it was not.<ref name="Johnny Rogan 1992 pp. 281-282">Johnny Rogan, ''Morrissey and Marr: The Severed Alliance'' (London: Omnibus, 1992), pp.&nbsp;281–282.</ref> That article, written by [[Danny Kelly (journalist)|Danny Kelly]], alleged that Morrissey disliked Marr working with other musicians, and that Marr and Morrissey's personal relationship had reached breaking point. Marr contacted ''NME'' to explain that he did not leave the band due to personal tensions but because he wanted wider musical scope.<ref>"Marr Speaks", ''NME'', 8 August 1987.</ref>


=== 1985–1986: ''Meat Is Murder'' and ''The Queen Is Dead'' ===
Former [[Easterhouse (band)|Easterhouse]] guitarist Ivor Perry was brought in to replace Marr,<ref>Lorraine Carpenter, [http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid=1&csid1=1375 "Timeline: Johnny Marr – Journeyman Smiths Legend Emerges Solo",] ''[[Exclaim!]]'', February 2003. Retrieved 30 May 2010; and Johnny Rogan, [http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/quotes/mojo.htm "Mike Joyce Interview",] ''Mojo'', August 1997. Retrieved 30 May 2010.</ref> and the band recorded some new material with him which was never completed, including an early version of "[[Bengali in Platforms]]" that was originally intended as the B-side of "[[Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before]]".<ref>Dave Henderson, "I Was Nearly a Suedehead! Ivor Perry and Cradle Tales", ''Underground'', No.&nbsp;13, April 1988 , p. 5.</ref> Perry was uncomfortable with the situation, stating "it was like they wanted another Johnny Marr", and the sessions ended with (according to Perry) "Morrissey running out of the studio".<ref>Henderson, "Suedehead".</ref> By the time the group's fourth album ''[[Strangeways, Here We Come]]'' was released in September, the band had split up. The breakdown in the relationship has been primarily attributed to Morrissey becoming annoyed by Marr's work with other artists and Marr growing frustrated by Morrissey's musical inflexibility. Marr particularly hated Morrissey's obsession with covering 1960s pop artists such as [[Twinkle (singer)|Twinkle]] and [[Cilla Black]]. Marr recalled in 1992, "That was the last straw, really. I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs."<ref>Johnny Rogan, "The Smiths: Johnny Marr's View", ''Record Collector'', November/December 1992.</ref> In a 1989 interview, Morrissey cited the lack of a managerial figure and business problems as reasons for the band's split.<ref>[http://www.morrissey-solo.com morrissey-solo.com.]</ref>
Early in 1985, the Smiths released their second studio album, ''[[Meat Is Murder]]''. It was more strident and political than its predecessor, including the pro-vegetarian title track (Morrissey forbade the rest of the group from being photographed eating meat), the light-hearted [[republicanism]] of "Nowhere Fast", and the anti-[[corporal punishment]] "The Headmaster Ritual" and "Barbarism Begins at Home". The band had also grown more diverse musically, with Marr adding rockabilly riffs to "Rusholme Ruffians" and Rourke playing a funk bass solo on "Barbarism Begins at Home". The album was preceded by the re-release of the B-side "[[How Soon Is Now?]]" as a single, and although that song was not on the original [[Phonograph record|LP]], it has been added to subsequent releases. ''Meat Is Murder'' was the band's only album (barring compilations) to reach number one in the UK charts.<ref name=album/>


Morrissey brought a political stance to many of his interviews, courting further controversy. Among his targets were the [[Premiership of Margaret Thatcher|Thatcher government]], the [[British monarchy]] and the famine relief project [[Band Aid (band)|Band Aid]]. Morrissey famously quipped of the last, "One can have great concern for the people of [[Ethiopia]], but it's another thing to inflict daily torture on the people of England"<ref>{{cite web | date=18 November 2004 | title=Band Aid vs. Morrissey&nbsp;... | format=http | work=Overyourhead.co.uk | url=http://www.overyourhead.co.uk/2004/11/band-aid-vs.html | access-date=22 April 2007 | archive-date=1 May 2012 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120501174743/http://www.overyourhead.co.uk/2004/11/band-aid-vs.html | url-status=live }}</ref> ("torture" being a reference to the music that resulted from the project). The subsequent single-only release "[[Shakespeare's Sister (song)|Shakespeare's Sister]]" reached number 26 on the UK Singles Chart, although the only single taken from the album, "[[That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore]]", was less successful, barely making the top 50.<ref name=single>{{cite web|url=http://www.theofficialcharts.com/artist/_/smiths/#singles|title=The Smiths Uk Charts|website=Theofficialcharts.com|access-date=20 October 2017|archive-date=17 February 2011|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110217193040/http://www.theofficialcharts.com/artist/_/smiths/#singles|url-status=live}}</ref> In 1985, the Smiths completed lengthy tours of the UK and the US.<ref name="The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead">{{Cite web|title=The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead|url=https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-smiths-the-queen-is-dead/|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171025190624/https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-smiths-the-queen-is-dead/|archive-date=25 October 2017|access-date=12 March 2019|website=[[Pitchfork (website|Pitchfork]]}}</ref>
''Strangeways, Here We Come'' peaked at number two in the UK<ref name=album/> and was their most successful album in the US, reaching number 55 on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]].<ref>Roberts, ''British Hit Singles and Albums''; and
[{{BillboardURLbyName|artist=the smiths|chart=all}} "Artist Chart History – The Smiths: Albums",] ''[[Billboard magazine|Billboard]]''. Retrieved 13 August 2008.</ref> It received a lukewarm reception from critics, but both Morrissey and Marr name it as their favourite Smiths album.<ref>Morrissey and Marr made the point in interviews with ''Melody Maker'' (1987), ''Select'' (1993), and ''Q'' (1994). See the [http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/disc/strangeways.htm ''Strangeways, Here We Come''] page at ''Passions Just Like Mine''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> A couple of further singles from ''Strangeways'' were released with earlier live, session and demo tracks as B-sides, and the following year the live recording ''[[Rank (album)|Rank]]'' (recorded in 1986 while Gannon was in the band) repeated the UK chart success of previous albums.


The Smiths' third studio album, ''[[The Queen Is Dead]],'' was released in June 1986, following its singles "[[The Boy with the Thorn in His Side]]" and "[[Bigmouth Strikes Again]]". Marr added ersatz strings with keyboards on several tracks such as "[[There Is a Light That Never Goes Out]]" and "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side".<ref>{{harvnb|Rogan|1993}} "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" [...] Stephen Street: "We were using keyboards a bit more. We had a Emulator sampler [...] It would be a case of Johnny hanging around [...]". The ersatz strings [...] complement the melodramic sentiments...</ref> ''The Queen Is Dead'' reached number two in the UK charts.<ref name=album/>
===Post-Smiths careers===
The Smiths were the subject of a ''[[The South Bank Show|South Bank Show]]'' documentary produced by [[London Weekend Television|LWT]] and broadcast by [[ITV]] on 18 October 1987, four months after their break-up and three weeks after the release of ''Strangeways''.


A legal dispute with Rough Trade had delayed the album by almost seven months (it had been completed in November 1985), and Marr was beginning to feel the stress of the band's exhausting touring and recording schedule. He later told ''NME'', "'Worse for wear' wasn't the half of it: I was extremely ill. By the time the tour actually finished it was all getting a little bit&nbsp;... dangerous. I was just drinking more than I could handle."<ref name="mainstream">Kelly, Danny. "Exile on Mainstream". ''NME''. 14 February 1987.</ref> Rourke was fired from the band in early 1986 due to his use of heroin. He allegedly received notice of his dismissal via a [[Post-it Note]] stuck to the windscreen of his car. It read, "Andy – you have left the Smiths. Goodbye and good luck, Morrissey."<ref>John Harris, "Trouble at Mill", ''[[Mojo (magazine)|Mojo]]'', April 2001. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey denied this.
Following the group's demise, Morrissey began work on a solo recording, collaborating with producer [[Stephen Street]] and fellow Mancunian [[Vini Reilly]], guitarist for [[The Durutti Column]]. The resulting album, ''[[Viva Hate]]'' (a reference to the end of the Smiths), was released in March 1988, reaching number one in the UK charts. Morrissey continues to perform and record as a solo artist.


Rourke was replaced on bass by [[Craig Gannon]] (formerly a member of Scottish new wave band [[Aztec Camera]]), but was then reinstated two weeks later. Gannon stayed in the band, switching to rhythm guitar. This five-piece recorded the singles "[[Panic (The Smiths song)|Panic]]" and "[[Ask (song)|Ask]]" (the latter with [[Kirsty MacColl]] on backing vocals) which reached numbers 11 and 14 respectively on the UK Singles Chart,<ref name=single/> and toured the UK.
Johnny Marr returned to the music scene in 1989 with [[New Order]]'s [[Bernard Sumner]] and [[Pet Shop Boys|Pet Shop Boy]] [[Neil Tennant]] in the [[Supergroup (bands)|supergroup]] [[Electronic (band)|Electronic]]. Electronic released three albums over the next decade. Marr was also a member of [[The The]], recording two albums with the group between 1989 and 1993. He has worked as a session musician and writing collaborator with artists including [[The Pretenders]], [[Bryan Ferry]], Pet Shop Boys, [[Billy Bragg]], [[Black Grape]], [[Talking Heads]], [[Crowded House]], and [[Beck]]. In 2000 he started another band, Johnny Marr and the Healers, which enjoyed moderate success, and later worked as a guest musician on the [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]] album ''[[Heathen Chemistry]]'' (2002). In 2006 he began work with [[Modest Mouse]]'s [[Isaac Brock (musician)|Isaac Brock]] on songs that eventually featured on the band's 2007 release, ''[[We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank]]''. Modest Mouse subsequently announced that Marr was a fully fledged member, and the reformed line-up toured extensively in 2006–07. Marr also recorded with [[Liam Gallagher]] of Oasis. In January 2008, it was reported that Marr had taken part in a week-long songwriting session at Moolah Rouge recording studio in Stockport with Wakefield indie group [[The Cribs]].<ref>Adam Moss, [http://www.citylife.co.uk/news_and_reviews/news/751_marr_rocking_the_cribs "Marr Rocking the Cribs",] ''Manchester Evening News'', 26 January 2008. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Marr's association with the band lasted three years and included an appearance on its fourth album, ''[[Ignore the Ignorant]]'' (2009). His departure from the group was announced in April 2011.<ref>[http://www.thecribs.com/news.php?id=219 "Cribs Back to a 3 Piece"], thecribs.com, 11 April 2011. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> He is now working on solo material. In addition to his activities as a musician and songwriter, Marr produced [[Haven (band)|Haven's]] debut album, ''Between the Senses'' (2002).<ref>Siobhan Grogan, [http://www.nme.com/reviews/artistKeyname/6059 "Haven: Between the Senses: Promising Indie Debut",] ''NME'', 5 February 2002. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref>


An arrest on drug possession charges almost led to Rourke being replaced by [[Guy Pratt]] for the band's North American tour later that year. Rourke's work visa came through just before departure. While the shows were successful, heavy drinking and drug use by crew and band members other than Morrissey took a toll on the group,{{citation needed|date=January 2019}} along with ineffective management and lingering disputes with Rough Trade (whom the band was seriously considering leaving for [[EMI]])<ref>{{cite web |last=Young |first=Rob |date=2006-10-04 |title=The Smiths And Rough Trade Records: How Soon Is Now?|url=https://magnetmagazine.com/2006/10/04/the-smiths-and-rough-trade-records-how-soon-is-now/ |access-date=2024-12-12 |website=[[Magnet (magazine)|Magnet]]}}</ref> and their American label [[Sire Records]] (who Morrissey felt did not do enough to promote the Smiths).<ref name="The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead"/><ref>{{cite web |last1=ARTE |title=The Smiths – Rock Legends (documentary) |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_YoaWqLQ7U | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210415192808/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_YoaWqLQ7U| archive-date=2021-04-15|website=YouTube |access-date=27 April 2021}}</ref> After a date in [[St. Petersburg, Florida]], he and Marr cancelled the remaining four shows, including a grand finale at New York City's [[Radio City Music Hall]]. After the following UK tour ended in October 1986, Gannon left the band. During his time with the Smiths, Gannon played on seven studio tracks ("Panic" and "Ask", their B-sides "The Draize Train" and "Golden Lights", as well as "Half a Person" and "London", both of which were released as B-sides the following year, and "You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby", which first appeared on the compilation album ''[[The World Won't Listen]]'' also the following year).<ref name="Queen is Dead North American tour">{{cite book|last1=Fletcher|first1=Tony|author-link1=Tony Fletcher|title=A Light That Never Goes Out: The Enduring Saga of the Smiths|date=2013|publisher=Windmill Books|location=London|isbn=9780099537922|pages=522–40}}</ref> On 12 December 1986 the band performed their last concert, an [[Anti-Apartheid Movement|anti-apartheid]] benefit at [[Brixton Academy]], London.<ref>{{Cite web
Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce have continued working together. They toured with [[Sinéad O'Connor]] in the first half of 1988 (Rourke also appeared on her 1990 album, ''[[I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got]]''). Still in 1988, they were recruited (with Craig Gannon) to [[Adult Net]], but left the band soon afterwards. In 1988 and 1989, they recorded singles with Morrissey. In 1998 they toured and recorded with [[Aziz Ibrahim]] (ex-[[The Stone Roses]]). In 2001 they formed Specter with Jason Specter and others. The band played in the United Kingdom and the United States, but did not prosper.<ref>Joe D'Angelo, [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443991/exsmiths-sniff-us-deal.jhtml "Two Ex-Smiths Sniffing for Record Deal",] ''MTV'', 23 May 2001. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref> Part of its 27 May 2001 show in New York can be seen at YouTube.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdZB-YVKdNI "Jason Specter with Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce of The Smiths".] Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In the same year they recorded demos with [[Paul Arthurs]] (ex-[[Oasis (band)|Oasis]]), Aziz Ibrahim, and [[Rowetta|Rowetta Idah]] (ex-[[Happy Mondays]]) under the name [[Moondog One]], but the project went no further. Towards the end of 2001, they played together in the veteran Manchester band Jeep.<ref>Originally reported in the ''Manchester Evening News'', 14 December 2001. See the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/01/12/20/1729245.shtml discussion] at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> In 2005 they played with Vinny Peculiar, recording the single "Two Fat Lovers" (Joyce also appeared on the 2006 album, ''The Fall and Rise of Vinny Peculiar'').<ref>[http://www.vinnypeculiar.co.uk/about/ "About Vinny Peculiar"] and [http://www.vinnypeculiar.co.uk/shop-3/two-fat-lovers/ "Two Fat Lovers"], at ''Vinny Peculiar''. Both retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> In 2007 they released the documentary DVD ''Inside the Smiths'', a surprisingly affectionate memoir of their time with the band, notable for the absence of Marr, Morrissey, and their music.
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As they had been severed from the contract with Rough Trade records they sought a new deal with a major label. Marr told ''NME'' in early 1987, "Every single label came to see us. It was small-talk, bribes, the whole number. I really enjoyed it." The band signed with EMI, which drew criticism from their fanbase and elements of the music press.<ref name="mainstream" />
Rourke and Joyce have also pursued their own projects. Joyce has recorded with [[Suede (band)|Suede]] (1990); toured and recorded with [[Buzzcocks]] (1990–1991); toured with [[Julian Cope]] (1992); toured with [[John Lydon]] and [[Public Image Ltd]] (1992); recorded with [[P.P. Arnold]] (1995); toured and recorded with [[Pete Wylie]] (ex-[[The Mighty Wah!]]) (1996–1998); toured with Vinny Peculiar and [[Paul Arthurs]] (2007); and toured with Autokat (2008–2009).<ref>[http://www.mikejoyce.com/ "History"], mikejoyce.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012. Joyce says he played with PiL in 1993, but it was the ''[[That What Is Not]]'' tour of 1992. See the [http://www.fodderstompf.com/MEMBERS/1992.html ''Fodderstomp''] database. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> Joyce presented the ''Alternative Therapy'' radio show on [[The Revolution (radio station)|Revolution 96.2 FM]] until the station changed format in 2008, later reviving it on Manchester Radio Online and Tin Can Media.<ref>[http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2008/sep/03/post106 "The Revolution: how not to relaunch a radio station?",] ''The Guardian'', Organgrinder Blog, 3 September 2008. Retrieved 10 January 2012. [http://www.how-do.co.uk/north-west-media-news/north-west-broadcasting/no-revolution-for-joyce-as-he-joins-manchester-radio-online-200902184696/ "No Revolution for Joyce as he joins Manchester Radio Online",] ''How Do'', 18 February 2009. Retrieved 10 January 2012. [http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-11211596/ONLINE-RADIO-Smiths-man-returns.html "Smiths man returns to indie charts with Coalition airing",] ''Music Week'', 22 August 2009. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> He now hosts ''The Coalition Chart Show'' on [[East Village Radio]], which streams from New York,<ref>[http://www.eastvillageradio.com/shows/mikejoycescoalitionchartshow/ ''Mike Joyce's Coalition Chart Show'']. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> and works as a club DJ.


{{Quote box|width=25em|align=right|quote="The Smiths brought realism to their romance, and tempered their angst with the lightest of touches. The times were personified in their frontman: rejecting all taints of rock n' roll machismo, he played up the social awkwardness of the misfit and the outsider, his gently haunting vocals whooping suddenly upward into a falsetto, clothed in outsize women's shirts, sporting National Health specs or a huge Johnny Ray-style hearing aid. This charming young man was, in the vernacular of the time, the very antithesis of a 'rockist' – always knowingly closer to the gentle ironicist [[Alan Bennett]], or self-lacerating diarist [[Kenneth Williams]], than a licentious [[Mick Jagger]] or a drugged-out [[Jim Morrison]]."|source=— Paul A. Woods, 2007{{sfn|Woods|2007|p=5}} }}
Rourke wrote the music for three Morrissey B-sides released in 1989 and 1990 ("Yes, I Am Blind", "Girl Least Likely To", and "Get Off the Stage"). He has played and recorded with [[Killing Joke]] (for three days in 1988); [[The Pretenders]] (featuring on ''[[Last of the Independents]]'', 1994); [[Badly Drawn Boy]] (with whom he played for two years); [[Proud Mary (band)|Proud Mary]] (featuring on ''Love and Light'', 2004); and [[Ian Brown]] (featuring on ''[[The World Is Yours (Ian Brown album)|The World Is Yours]]'', 2007). In 2007 he formed [[Freebass]] with fellow bassists [[Peter Hook]] (ex-[[New Order]] and [[Joy Division]]) and [[Gary Mounfield|Mani]] ([[The Stone Roses]] and [[Primal Scream]]); he remained active in the group until 2010 and appears on its only album, ''It's A Beautiful Life'' (2010). Rourke co-founded the [[Manchester v Cancer]] concert series, later known as [[Versus Cancer]], to raise money for cancer research. Concerts took place in January 2006, March 2007, February 2008, and December 2009. He has since concentrated on his radio career, beginning with a Saturday-evening show on [[XFM]] Manchester. More recently he has been a regular on [[East Village Radio]], where his colleagues include Mike Joyce.<ref>[http://www.eastvillageradio.com/shows/andyrourkesjetlag/ ''Andy Rourke's Jetlag''.] Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> Rourke relocated to New York in early 2009.<ref>[http://jetlagnyc.blogspot.com.au/search/label/info "About Jetlag",] ''Jetlag''. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> Soon after arriving there, he formed Jetlag – a "DJ and audio production outfit" – with Olé Koretsky.<ref>[http://jetlagnyc.blogspot.com.au/ ''Jetlag''.] Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> The pair DJ at venues around the city; a selection of their remixes can be heard at Soundcloud.<ref>[http://soundcloud.com/jetlagnyc "Jetlag: Olé Koretsky & Andy Rourke, NYC, United States.] Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref>


===1987: ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' and breakup===
==Later controversies==
In early 1987, "[[Shoplifters of the World Unite]]" reached number 12 on the UK Singles Chart.<ref name=single/> It was followed by a second compilation album, ''[[The World Won't Listen]]''. The title was Morrissey's comment on his frustration with the band's lack of mainstream recognition; it reached number two in the charts.<ref name=album/> This was followed by the single "[[Sheila Take a Bow]]", the band's second (and last during the band's lifetime) UK top-10 hit.<ref name=single/> Another compilation album, ''[[Louder Than Bombs]]'', was released in the US in March 1987, with a UK release following two months later. The Smiths' fourth studio album, ''[[Strangeways, Here We Come]],'' opened with a piano introduction as Marr wanted to get away from the Smiths' sound.<ref name="johnny">Rogan, Johnny. 1992.</ref> Marr also played keyboards for the other tracks.<ref name="johnny" /> The first song, "[[A Rush and a Push and the Land Is Ours]]", features no guitar.<ref name="Marr_Byrds">{{cite web|last=Rosen|first=Steven|title=Johnny Marr on Fender Signature Guitar: 'It Was Such A Privilege'|url=http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/johnny_marr_on_fender_signature_guitar_it_was_such_a_privilege.html|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140506000635/http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/johnny_marr_on_fender_signature_guitar_it_was_such_a_privilege.html|archive-date=6 May 2014|access-date=5 May 2014|work=UltimateGuitar.com (interview)}}</ref>


Despite their continued success, tensions emerged within the band. Marr was exhausted and took a break in June 1987, which he felt was negatively perceived by his bandmates. In July, he left the group because he erroneously believed an ''NME'' article titled "Smiths to Split" was planted by Morrissey.<ref name="Johnny Rogan 1992 pp. 281-282">Johnny Rogan, ''Morrissey and Marr: The Severed Alliance'' (London: Omnibus, 1992), pp.&nbsp;281–282.</ref> The article, written by [[Danny Kelly (journalist)|Danny Kelly]], alleged that Morrissey disliked Marr working with other musicians and that Marr and Morrissey's personal relationship had reached a breaking point. Marr contacted ''NME'' to explain that he had not left the band due to personal tensions but because he wanted wider musical scope.<ref>"Marr Speaks", ''NME'', 8 August 1987.</ref> The former [[Easterhouse (band)|Easterhouse]] guitarist Ivor Perry was brought in to replace Marr.<ref>Lorraine Carpenter, [http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid=1&csid1=1375 "Timeline: Johnny Marr – Journeyman Smiths Legend Emerges Solo"], {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050828192036/http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid=1&csid1=1375 |date=28 August 2005 }} ''[[Exclaim!]]'', February 2003. Retrieved 30 May 2010; and Johnny Rogan, [http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/quotes/mojo.htm "Mike Joyce Interview"], {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160315052053/http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/quotes/mojo.htm |date=15 March 2016 }} ''Mojo'', August 1997. Retrieved 30 May 2010.</ref> The band recorded material with him which was never completed, including an early version of "[[Bengali in Platforms]]", later released on Morrissey's debut solo album, ''[[Viva Hate]]'' (1988).<ref>Dave Henderson, "I Was Nearly a Suedehead! Ivor Perry and Cradle Tales", ''Underground'', No.&nbsp;13, April 1988, p. 5.</ref> Perry was uncomfortable, saying "it was like they wanted another Johnny Marr"; according to Perry, the sessions ended with Morrissey running out of the studio.<ref>Henderson, "Suedehead".</ref>
Since the band broke up Morrissey and Marr have attracted criticism over the division of royalties with Joyce and Rourke; recurring speculation about a reunion, often fuelled by the pair themselves; and their apparent efforts to maximise returns on the band's modest back-catalogue by continually repackaging the same material. None of these criticisms has seriously damaged either the musicians or the reputation of the band.


By the time ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' was released in September, the Smiths had split. The breakdown has been primarily attributed to Morrissey's irritation with Marr's work with other artists and Marr's frustration with Morrissey's musical inflexibility. Marr particularly hated Morrissey's obsession with covering 1960s pop artists such as [[Twinkle (singer)|Twinkle]] and [[Cilla Black]], saying in 1992: "That was the last straw, really. I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs."<ref>Johnny Rogan, "The Smiths: Johnny Marr's View", ''[[Record Collector]]'', November/December 1992.</ref> In a 1989 interview, Morrissey cited the lack of a managerial figure and business problems as reasons for the split.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.morrissey-solo.com|title=Morrissey-solo|website=Morrissey-solo|access-date=20 October 2017|archive-date=25 October 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171025170058/https://www.morrissey-solo.com/|url-status=live}}</ref>
===Royalties dispute===
Morrissey and Marr each took 40 per cent of The Smiths' recording and performance royalties, allowing 10 per cent each to Joyce and Rourke. As Joyce's barrister would later argue in court, the bassist and drummer were treated as "mere session musicians, as readily replaceable as the parts in a lawnmower".<ref>''The Daily Telegraph'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>


''Strangeways, Here We Come'' reached number two in the UK in October 1987,<ref name="album" /> and was the Smiths' most successful album in the US, reaching number 55 on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]].<ref>Roberts, ''British Hit Singles and Albums''; and
In March 1989, Joyce and Rourke started legal proceedings against their former bandmates, arguing that they were equal partners in The Smiths and each entitled to a 25 per cent share of the band's profits on all activities other than songwriting and publishing. Rourke, who was in debt, settled almost immediately for a lump sum of £83,000 and 10 per cent of royalties, renouncing all further claims.<ref>For the settlement with Rourke, see "Morrissey May Face New Claim for £1m", ''Manchester Evening News'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012. For the history of the dispute, see [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1998/1711.html ''Joyce vs. Morrissey and Others''], England and Wales Court of Appeal (Civil Division) Decisions, 6 November 1998. Retrieved 8 January 2012. See also Brian Southall, ''Pop Goes to Court: Rock 'n' Pop's Greatest Court Battles'' (London: Omnibus, 2008; rev. edn. 2009), ch. 16, "The Smiths: Seeking Satisfaction Over a Fair Share of the Profits".</ref> Joyce continued with the action, which eventually reached the [[High Court of Justice#Chancery Division|High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)]] in December 1996. Morrissey and Marr had accepted the previous year that Joyce and Rourke were partners.<ref name="article">"Smith versus Smith: Drummer Takes Stars to Court in Royalties Fight", ''The Daily Mail'', Tuesday, 3 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> "The only contentious issue was whether Mr Joyce was an equal partner entitled to ¼ of the profits arising out of the activities (other than songwriting or publishing) of 'The Smiths'."<ref name="Others 1998">''Joyce vs. Morrissey and Others'' (1998).</ref> Joyce's barrister, Nigel Davis QC, asserted that "it was not until after the bestselling band split up in 1987 that his client discovered he was getting only 10 per cent of the profits".<ref>Richard Duce, "Former Smith Lets Court Know Why He's Miserable Now", ''The Times'' (London), Tuesday, 3 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Davis continued: "Mr Joyce never agreed to ten per cent, he never assumed he was getting ten per cent. On the contrary he thought he was getting 25 per cent."<ref name="article"/> Morrissey and Marr – who were represented separately at the trial<ref name="Others 1998"/> – insisted that the royalty split had been explained to Rourke and Joyce, even if they were no longer sure when. As Marr's counsel, Robert Englehart QC, explained, "Some 13 years on it is extremely difficult to pinpoint the moment when the 40:40:10:10 profit split came into being&nbsp;... But Morrissey and Marr acted throughout on the basis that they would be getting 40 per cent each of the net profits from The Smiths earnings."<ref>"Smiths' Cash Split 'Never Equal'", ''Manchester Evening News'', Tuesday, 10 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
[{{BillboardURLbyName|artist=the smiths|chart=all}} "Artist Chart History – The Smiths: Albums",] ''[[Billboard magazine|Billboard]]''. Retrieved 13 August 2008.</ref> Morrissey and Marr name it as their favourite Smiths album.<ref>Morrissey and Marr made the point in interviews with ''Melody Maker'' (1987), ''Select'' (1993), and ''Q'' (1994). See the [http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/disc/strangeways.htm ''Strangeways, Here We Come''] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111214185432/http://passionsjustlikemine.com/disc/strangeways.htm |date=14 December 2011 }} page at ''Passions Just Like Mine''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Two further singles from ''Strangeways'' were released with live, session and demo tracks as B-sides. The following year, the live album ''[[Rank (album)|Rank]]'', recorded in 1986 when Craig Gannon was still in the band, reached number 2 in the UK and entered in the European 100 Albums chart at number 9.<ref name="rank">{{cite magazine|title=European Hot 100 Albums Chart|magazine=Music & Media|date=24 September 1988|url=https://www.americanradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/80s/1988/M&M-1988-09-24.pdf|access-date=14 Oct 2019|page=26|archive-date=10 January 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210110024751/https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/80s/1988/M&M-1988-09-24.pdf|url-status=live}}</ref>


===1989: Royalties dispute===
After a seven-day hearing, Judge Weeks found in favour of Joyce, ordering that he receive around £1 million in back-royalties and 25 per cent henceforth. The judge also volunteered character assessments of the four antagonists, which were highly favourable to Joyce and Rourke (who gave evidence in Joyce's support):
Morrissey and Marr each took 40% of the Smiths' recording and performance royalties, allowing 10 per cent each to Joyce and Rourke. Joyce's barrister later argued in court, that Joyce and Rourke were treated as [[session musician]]s, "as readily replaceable as the parts in a lawnmower".<ref>''The Daily Telegraph'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173341/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm|date=20 November 2012}} is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In March 1989, Joyce and Rourke started legal proceedings against Morrissey and Marr. They argued that they were equal partners in the Smiths and were each entitled to a 25 per cent share of the band's profits on all activities other than songwriting and publishing. Rourke, who was in debt, settled quickly for a lump sum of £83,000 ({{Inflation|UK|83,000|1989|fmt=eq|cursign=£|round=-1}}) and 10 per cent of royalties, renouncing all further claims.<ref>For the settlement with Rourke, see "Morrissey May Face New Claim for £1m", ''Manchester Evening News'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173341/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm|date=20 November 2012}} is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012. For the history of the dispute, see [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1998/1711.html ''Joyce vs. Morrissey and Others''] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150923192001/http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1998/1711.html|date=23 September 2015}}, England and Wales Court of Appeal (Civil Division) Decisions, 6 November 1998. Retrieved 8 January 2012. See also Brian Southall, ''Pop Goes to Court: Rock 'n' Pop's Greatest Court Battles'' (London: Omnibus, 2008; rev. edn. 2009), ch. 16, "The Smiths: Seeking Satisfaction Over a Fair Share of the Profits".</ref>


Joyce continued with the action, which reached the [[Chancery Division|High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)]] in December 1996. Morrissey and Marr had accepted the previous year that Joyce and Rourke were partners, but whether Joyce was entitled to a quarter of profits "arising out of the activities (other than songwriting or publishing)" of the Smiths remained contentious.<ref name="Others 1998">''Joyce vs. Morrissey and Others'' (1998).</ref> Joyce's barrister, Nigel Davis, said that Joyce did not realise he was receiving only 10% of the profits until after the band split.<ref>Richard Duce, "Former Smith Lets Court Know Why He's Miserable Now", ''The Times'' (London), Tuesday, 3 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120620064733/http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html|date=20 June 2012}} is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
::He said of Mr. Joyce and Mr. Rourke that they had impressed him as straightforward and honest. He continued: "Mr. Morrissey is a more complicated character. He did not find giving evidence an easy or happy experience. To me at least he appeared devious, truculent and unreliable where his own interests were at stake." The Judge was also critical of Mr. Marr as seeming to the Judge to be "willing to embroider his evidence to a point where he became less credible." He concluded that where Mr. Morrissey's evidence differed from that of Mr. Joyce and Mr. Rourke, he preferred that of Mr. Joyce and Mr. Rourke.<ref name="Others 1998"/>


Morrissey and Marr – who were represented separately at the trial<ref name="Others 1998"/> – insisted that the royalty split had been explained to Rourke and Joyce, though they were no longer sure when. Additionally, this agreement was only discussed verbally and it was never legally written on paper, something Marr came to regret. He said in 2004 that although he had no regrets in breaking up the Smiths, he wished the band had signed legal documents "from the word go" to avoid the later financial disagreements.<ref>{{cite magazine |last=Sheppard |first=David |title=We Changed People's Lives |magazine=MOJO the Collectors' Series: The Smiths – Hand in Glove 1982–1987 |date=2022 |page=105}}</ref> As Marr's counsel, Robert Englehart, said, "Some 13 years on it is extremely difficult to pinpoint the moment when the 40:40:10:10 profit split came into being&nbsp;... But Morrissey and Marr acted throughout on the basis that they would be getting 40 percent each of the net profits from the Smiths' earnings."<ref>"Smiths' Cash Split 'Never Equal'", ''Manchester Evening News'', Tuesday, 10 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120620064733/http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html|date=20 June 2012}} is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
The judge also ranked the band members by IQ, with Marr "probably the more intelligent of the four", Rourke and Joyce "unintellectual", and Morrissey presumably somewhere in between.<ref>''The Daily Express'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>


After a seven-day hearing, Judge Weeks found in favour of Joyce, ordering that he receive around £1&nbsp;million in back-royalties and 25 per cent henceforth. The judge also gave character assessments; Joyce and Rourke (who gave evidence in Joyce's support) impressed him as straightforward and honest, whereas Morrissey "appeared devious, truculent and unreliable where his own interests were at stake" and Marr was "willing to embroider his evidence to a point where he became less credible".<ref name="Others 1998" /> The judge also said that Marr was "probably the more intelligent of the four", and that Rourke and Joyce were "unintellectual".<ref name="guardmarr" /> Morrissey said in an interview eight months later:
Morrissey offered a different interpretation in an interview eight months later:


::The court case was a potted history of the life of The Smiths. Mike, talking constantly and saying nothing. Andy, unable to remember his own name. Johnny, trying to please everyone and consequently pleasing no one. And Morrissey under the scorching spotlight in the dock being drilled. "How dare you be successful?" "How dare you move on?" To me, The Smiths were a beautiful thing and Johnny left it, and Mike has destroyed it.<ref>Jennifer Nine, "The Importance of Being Morrissey", ''[[Melody Maker]]'', 9 August 1997. The [http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1997/import.htm full text] of the interview is reproduced at ''The Motor Cycle Au Pair Boy''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
{{blockquote|The court case was a potted history of the life of the Smiths. Mike, talking constantly and saying nothing. Andy, unable to remember his own name. Johnny, trying to please everyone and consequently pleasing no one. And Morrissey under the scorching spotlight in the dock being drilled. "How dare you be successful?" "How dare you move on?" To me, the Smiths were a beautiful thing and Johnny left it, and Mike has destroyed it.<ref>Jennifer Nine, "The Importance of Being Morrissey", ''[[Melody Maker]]'', 9 August 1997. The [http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1997/import.htm full text] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120120071530/http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1997/import.htm |date=20 January 2012 }} of the interview is reproduced at ''The Motor Cycle Au Pair Boy''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>}}


Asked some time before the trial whether he thought Rourke and Joyce had been short-changed, Morrissey responded: "They were lucky. If they'd had another singer they'd never have got further than Salford shopping centre."<ref>''The Daily Star'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey's counsel, Ian Mill QC, conceded that his client's attitude "betrayed a degree of arrogance".<ref>''Manchester Evening News'', Wednesday, 11 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey appealed against the verdict; Marr did not. The appeal was heard by the Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in November 1998 and dismissed.<ref name="Others 1998"/> Inspired by Joyce's success, Rourke sought legal advice on his own options.<ref>"Morrissey may face new claim for £1m", ''Manchester Evening News'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> No further action appears to have been taken since that time. Rourke was declared bankrupt in 1999.<ref>Robert Bottomley, [http://www.citylife.co.uk/news_and_reviews/news/5110_can_a_new_film_heal_smiths__rift_ "Can a New Film Heal Smiths Rift?",] ''Manchester Evening News'', Tuesday, 29 August 2006. Retrieved 10 January 2012. See also the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/1999/150.shtml discussion] at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref>
Asked some time before the trial whether he thought Rourke and Joyce had been short-changed, Morrissey responded: "They were lucky. If they'd had another singer they'd never have got further than Salford Shopping Centre."<ref>''The Daily Star'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173341/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm|date=20 November 2012}} is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref><ref>{{cite book|author=Simon Goddard|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=O3pEsVdZWUoC&dq=morrissey+rourke+joyce+salford+shopping+centre&pg=PA83|title=Mozipedia: The Encyclopedia of Morrissey and The Smiths|date=2009|publisher=Ebury Press|isbn=978-0091927103|page=81|access-date=22 October 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last=Kurson|first=Ken|url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323297104578177310003624672|publisher=Wall Street Journal|title=The Pleasure, the Privilege Was Ours|date=28 December 2012|access-date=22 October 2021}}</ref> Morrissey's counsel, Ian Mill, conceded that Morrissey's attitude "betrayed a degree of arrogance".<ref>''Manchester Evening News'', Wednesday, 11 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120620064733/http://www.cemetrygates.com/vault/news/court.html|date=20 June 2012}} is archived at ''Cemetry Gates''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey appealed against the verdict; the appeal was heard by the Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in November 1998 and dismissed.<ref name="Others 1998"/> Inspired by Joyce's success, Rourke sought legal advice on his own options.<ref>"Morrissey may face new claim for £1m", ''Manchester Evening News'', Thursday, 12 December 1996. A transcript of the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm article] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173341/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htm|date=20 November 2012}} is archived at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> He was declared bankrupt in 1999.<ref>Robert Bottomley, [http://www.citylife.co.uk/news_and_reviews/news/5110_can_a_new_film_heal_smiths__rift_ "Can a New Film Heal Smiths Rift?"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120121165802/http://www.citylife.co.uk/news_and_reviews/news/5110_can_a_new_film_heal_smiths__rift_|date=21 January 2012}}, ''Manchester Evening News'', Tuesday, 29 August 2006. Retrieved 10 January 2012. See also the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/1999/150.shtml discussion] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173240/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/1999/150.shtml|date=20 November 2012}} at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref>


In November 2005, Mike Joyce told [[Marc Riley]] on [[BBC Radio 6 Music]] that financial hardship had reduced him to selling rare Smiths' recordings on eBay. By way of illustration, Riley played part of an unfinished instrumental known as the "Click Track" (or "Cowbell Track").<ref>''The Mint Show with Marc Riley'', BBC Radio 6 Music, Sunday, 27 November 2005. See the [http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20051201_joyce.shtml report] at BBC Radio 6 Music; and the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/28/162226 discussion] at morrissey-solo.com. Both retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey responded with a statement three days later revealing that Joyce had received £215,000 each from Marr and Morrissey in 1997, along with Marr's final back-payment of £260,000 in 2001. Morrissey failed to make his final payment because, he said, he was overseas in 2001 and did not receive the paperwork. Joyce obtained a default judgement against Morrissey, revised his outstanding claim to £688,000, and secured orders garnishing much of the singer's income. This was a source of ongoing inconvenience and grievance to Morrissey, who estimated that Joyce had cost him at least £1,515,000 in recovered royalties and legal fees up to 30 November 2005.<ref>[http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_051130_01 "Statement from Morrissey"], 30 November 2005, at true-to-you.net. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref>
In November 2005, Joyce told [[Marc Riley]] on [[BBC Radio 6 Music]] that financial hardship had reduced him to selling rare Smiths recordings on eBay. By way of illustration, Riley played part of an unfinished instrumental known as the "Click Track" (or "Cowbell Track").<ref>''The Mint Show with Marc Riley'', BBC Radio 6 Music, Sunday, 27 November 2005. See the [https://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20051201_joyce.shtml report] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081118055754/http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20051201_joyce.shtml|date=18 November 2008}} at BBC Radio 6 Music; and the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/28/162226 discussion] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190313212910/https://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=05%2F11%2F28%2F162226|date=13 March 2019}} at morrissey-solo.com. Both retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey responded with a statement three days later revealing that Joyce had received £215,000 each from Marr and Morrissey in 1997, along with Marr's final backpayment of £260,000 in 2001. Morrissey failed to make his final payment because, he said, he was overseas in 2001 and did not receive the paperwork. Joyce obtained a default judgement against Morrissey, revised his outstanding claim to £688,000 and secured orders garnishing much of his income. This was a source of grievance to Morrissey, who estimated that Joyce had cost him at least £1,515,000 in recovered royalties and legal fees up to 30 November 2005.<ref>[http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_051130_01 "Statement from Morrissey"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120510054040/http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_051130_01|date=10 May 2012}}, 30 November 2005, at true-to-you.net. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref>


==Solo careers==
===Reunion speculation===
[[Image:MorrisseySXSW2006.jpg|thumb|upright|left|Morrissey performing at [[SXSW]] in Austin, Texas in 2006]]
Both Johnny Marr and Morrissey have repeatedly said that they will not reunite the band. In 2006, Morrissey declared, "I would rather eat my own testicles than reform The Smiths, and that's saying something for a vegetarian."<ref>Scott Colothan, [http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=15239 "Morrissey: 'I'd Rather Eat My Testicles Than Reform The Smiths'",] ''Gigwise'', 30 March 2006. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> When asked why in another interview the same year, he responded, "I feel as if I've worked very hard since the demise of the Smiths and the others haven't, so why hand them attention that they haven't earned? We are not friends, we don't see each other. Why on earth would we be on a stage together?"<ref>Daniel Melia, [http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=18006 "Morrissey: 'The Smiths Don't Deserve to Be on Stage with Me'",] ''Gigwise'', 5 June 2006. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> In a February 2009 interview on [[BBC Radio 2]], he said, "People always ask me about reunions and I can't imagine why&nbsp;... the past seems like a distant place, and I'm pleased with that."<ref>[http://www.idiomag.com/peek/64678/morrissey "Morrissey turns down The Smiths&nbsp;... again",] ''Idio'', 13 February 2009. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
Following the group's split, Morrissey began work on a solo recording, collaborating with producer [[Stephen Street]] and fellow Mancunian [[Vini Reilly]], guitarist for [[the Durutti Column]]. The resulting album, ''[[Viva Hate]]'' (a reference to the end of the Smiths), was released in March 1988, reaching number one in the UK charts. In the following years, he invited several singers for backing vocals on several songs such as [[Suggs]] of [[Madness (band)|Madness]] on "[[Piccadilly Palare]]" and [[Chrissie Hynde]] of [[the Pretenders]] on "[[My Love Life]]". He recorded a duet with [[Siouxsie Sioux]] of [[Siouxsie and the Banshees]], "[[Interlude (Timi Yuro song)|Interlude]]" which was released under the banner of both artists. He also collaborated with arranger [[Ennio Morricone]] on "Dear God Please Help Me". At the beginning of the 90s, he enjoyed a new popularity in North America, following his first tour as Morrissey. Morrissey continues to perform and record as a solo artist and had released 13 studio albums as of 2020.


Marr returned in 1989 with [[New Order (band)|New Order]]'s [[Bernard Sumner]] and [[Pet Shop Boys]]' [[Neil Tennant]] in the supergroup [[Electronic (band)|Electronic]]. Electronic released three albums over the next decade. Marr was also a member of [[the The]], recording two albums with them between 1989 and 1993. He has worked as a session musician and writing collaborator with artists including [[the Pretenders]], [[Bryan Ferry]], Pet Shop Boys, [[Billy Bragg]], [[Black Grape]], [[Talking Heads]], [[Modest Mouse]], [[Crowded House]] and [[Beck]].
In November 2004, [[VH1]] screened a ''Backstage Pass Special'' episode of ''[[Bands Reunited]]'' showing host [[Aamer Haleem]] trying and failing to corner Morrissey before a show at the Apollo Theater.<ref>The encounter is described in an [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/04/11/12/153226.shtml anonymous post] at morrissey-solo.com, 12 November 2004; retrieved 8 January 2012. See also the VH1 [http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Coming+Up+on+VH1+November+5+-+November+11,+2004.-a0124018186 media release], 3 November 2004; retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In March 2006, Morrissey revealed that The Smiths had been offered $5 million for a performance at the [[Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival]], which he turned down, saying, "No, because money doesn't come into it." He further explained, "It was a fantastic journey. And then it ended. I didn't feel we should have ended. I wanted to continue. [Marr] wanted to end it. And that was that."<ref>Barry Jeckell, [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/59064/morrissey-smiths-turned-down-millions-to-reunite "Morrissey: Smiths Turned Down Millions to Reunite",] ''Billboard'', 16 March 2006. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
[[File:Johnny Marr (The Cribs) at the 9-30 Club 1.jpg|right|upright|thumb|Johnny Marr performing as part of the group [[the Cribs]] at the [[9:30 Club]] in Washington, DC, in 2010]]


In 2000, he started another band, Johnny Marr + the Healers, which released only one album, ''[[Boomslang (album)|Boomslang]]'' (2003), to moderate success, then split up shortly afterwards. He later worked as a guest musician on the [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]] album ''[[Heathen Chemistry]]'' (2002). In 2006, he began work with [[Modest Mouse]]'s [[Isaac Brock (musician)|Isaac Brock]] on songs that eventually featured on the band's 2007 release, ''[[We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank]]''. Modest Mouse subsequently announced that Marr was a fully fledged member and the reformed line-up toured extensively in 2006–07. In January 2008, it was reported that Marr had taken part in a week-long songwriting session at Moolah Rouge recording studio in Stockport with Wakefield indie group [[the Cribs]].<ref name=":1">Adam Moss, [http://www.citylife.co.uk/news_and_reviews/news/751_marr_rocking_the_cribs "Marr Rocking the Cribs"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120121171307/http://www.citylife.co.uk/news_and_reviews/news/751_marr_rocking_the_cribs |date=21 January 2012 }}, ''Manchester Evening News'', 26 January 2008. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Marr's association with the band lasted three years and included an appearance on its fourth album, ''[[Ignore the Ignorant]]'' (2009). His departure was announced in April 2011.<ref>[http://www.thecribs.com/news.php?id=219 "Cribs Back to a 3 Piece"] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110416084408/http://www.thecribs.com/news.php?id=219 |date=16 April 2011 }}, thecribs.com, 11 April 2011. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> He recorded three solo albums, ''[[The Messenger (Johnny Marr album)|The Messenger]]'' (2013), ''[[Playland (album)|Playland]]'' (2014) and ''[[Call the Comet]]'' (2018). In addition to his activities as a musician and songwriter, Marr produced [[Marion (band)|Marion]]'s second album, ''[[The Program (album)|The Program]]'' (1998) and [[Haven (band)|Haven]]'s debut album, ''Between the Senses'' (2002).<ref>Talia Soghomonian, [https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/whatever-happened-to-marion-761843 "Whatever Happened To Marion?"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180816063935/https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/whatever-happened-to-marion-761843 |date=16 August 2018 }}, ''NME'', 26 October 2011. Retrieved 18 January 2019.</ref><ref>Siobhan Grogan, [https://www.nme.com/reviews/artistKeyname/6059 "Haven: Between the Senses: Promising Indie Debut"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160305135935/http://www.nme.com/reviews/artistKeyname/6059 |date=5 March 2016 }}, ''NME'', 5 February 2002. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref>
In August 2007, it was widely reported that Morrissey had that summer declined an offer of $75&nbsp;million – nearly £40&nbsp;million at the time – from a "consortium of promoters" to reunite with Marr for a fifty-date world tour under the Smiths' name in 2008 and 2009. ''[[NME]]'' gave Morrissey as its source for the story.<ref>[http://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/30599 "Morrissey rejects fresh attempt at Smiths reunion",] ''NME'', 23 August 2007. Retrieved 7 January 2011.</ref> ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' cited his publicist.<ref>Elizabeth Goodman, [http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/morrissey-turned-down-mega-bucks-smiths-reunion-offer-over-johnny-marr-20070823 "Morrissey Turned Down Mega-Bucks Smiths Reunion Offer Over Johnny Marr",] ''Rolling Stone'', 23 August 2007. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> The offer was also reported at true-to-you.net, an unofficial fan site tacitly supported by Morrissey.<ref>[http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_070822_01 "Press release regarding tour dates"], 22 August 2007. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref> It was later described as a "hoax", although it is unclear who was hoaxing whom.<ref>[http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=26177_0_2_0_C "Morrissey announces new album – reunion tour Smiths a hoax"], 3 October 2007. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>


Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce continued to work together. They toured with [[Sinéad O'Connor]] in the first half of 1988; Rourke also appeared on her 1990 album ''[[I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got]]''. Still in 1988, they were recruited (with Craig Gannon) to [[the Adult Net]], but left the band soon afterwards. In 1988 and 1989, they recorded singles with Morrissey. In 1998, they toured and recorded with [[Aziz Ibrahim]] ([[the Stone Roses]]). In 2001 they formed Specter with Jason Specter and others. The band played in the United Kingdom and the United States, but did not prosper.<ref>Joe D'Angelo, [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443991/exsmiths-sniff-us-deal.jhtml "Two Ex-Smiths Sniffing for Record Deal"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120210155059/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1443991/exsmiths-sniff-us-deal.jhtml |date=10 February 2012 }}, ''MTV'', 23 May 2001. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref> In the same year they recorded demos with [[Paul Arthurs]] ([[Oasis (band)|Oasis]]), Aziz Ibrahim and [[Rowetta|Rowetta Idah]] ([[Happy Mondays]]) under the name Moondog One, but the project went no further. Towards the end of 2001, they played together in the veteran Manchester band Jeep.<ref>Originally reported in the ''Manchester Evening News'', 14 December 2001. See the [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/01/12/20/1729245.shtml discussion] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173332/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/01/12/20/1729245.shtml |date=20 November 2012 }} at morrissey-solo.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> In 2005, they played with Vinny Peculiar, recording the single "Two Fat Lovers" (Joyce also appeared on the 2006 album ''The Fall and Rise of Vinny Peculiar'').<ref>[http://www.vinnypeculiar.co.uk/about/ "About Vinny Peculiar"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120721234307/http://www.vinnypeculiar.co.uk/about/ |date=21 July 2012 }} and [http://www.vinnypeculiar.co.uk/shop-3/two-fat-lovers/ "Two Fat Lovers"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131019041926/http://www.vinnypeculiar.co.uk/shop-3/two-fat-lovers/ |date=19 October 2013 }}, at ''Vinny Peculiar''. Both retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> In 2007 they released the documentary DVD ''Inside the Smiths'', a memoir of their time with the band, notable for the absence of Marr, Morrissey and their music.
In October the same year, Marr reignited speculation when he hinted on [[BBC Radio 5 Live]] at a potential reunion in the future, saying that "stranger things have happened so, you know, who knows?" Marr went on to say that "It's no biggy. Maybe we will in 10 or 15 years' time when we all need to for whatever reasons, but right now Morrissey is doing his thing and I'm doing mine, so that's the answer really."<ref>[http://everyjoe.com/entertainment/johnny-marr-doesnt-rule-out-smiths-reunion-with-morrissey/ "Johnny Marr Doesn't Rule Out Smiths Reunion with Morrissey",] ''Every Joe'', 23 October 2007. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> This suggested a change of heart, given that Marr had previously said reforming the band would be a bad idea.


Joyce recorded with [[Suede (band)|Suede]] (1990); toured and recorded with [[Buzzcocks]] (1990–91); toured with [[Julian Cope]] (1992); toured with [[John Lydon]] and [[Public Image Ltd]] (1992); recorded with [[P.P. Arnold]] (1995); toured and recorded with [[Pete Wylie]] (1996–98); toured with Vinny Peculiar and [[Paul Arthurs]] (2007); and toured with Autokat (2008–09).<ref>[http://www.mikejoyce.com/ "History"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111229011315/http://www.mikejoyce.com/ |date=29 December 2011 }}, mikejoyce.com. Retrieved 10 January 2012. Joyce says he played with PiL in 1993, but it was the ''[[That What Is Not]]'' tour of 1992. See the [http://www.fodderstompf.com/MEMBERS/1992.html ''Fodderstomp''] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120126024239/http://www.fodderstompf.com/MEMBERS/1992.html |date=26 January 2012 }} database. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> He presented the ''Alternative Therapy'' radio show on [[The Revolution (radio station)|Revolution 96.2 FM]] until the station changed format in 2008, later reviving it on Manchester Radio Online and Tin Can Media.<ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/media/organgrinder/2008/sep/03/post106 "The Revolution: how not to relaunch a radio station?"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160418031209/http://www.theguardian.com/media/organgrinder/2008/sep/03/post106 |date=18 April 2016 }}, ''The Guardian'', Organgrinder Blog, 3 September 2008. Retrieved 10 January 2012. [http://www.how-do.co.uk/north-west-media-news/north-west-broadcasting/no-revolution-for-joyce-as-he-joins-manchester-radio-online-200902184696/ "No Revolution for Joyce as he joins Manchester Radio Online"], {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120307140553/http://www.how-do.co.uk/north-west-media-news/north-west-broadcasting/no-revolution-for-joyce-as-he-joins-manchester-radio-online-200902184696/ |date=7 March 2012 }} ''How Do'', 18 February 2009. Retrieved 10 January 2012. [https://archive.today/20120709114339/http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-11211596/ONLINE-RADIO-Smiths-man-returns.html "Smiths man returns to indie charts with Coalition airing"], ''Music Week'', 22 August 2009. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> He hosts ''The Coalition Chart Show'' on [[East Village Radio]], which streams from New York.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20110623093059/http://www.eastvillageradio.com/shows/mikejoycescoalitionchartshow/ ''Mike Joyce's Coalition Chart Show'']. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref>
In October 2008, ''[[The Sun (newspaper)|The Sun]]'', citing "sources close to the band", reported that the Smiths would reform to play at the Coachella in 2009.<ref>[http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1849030.ece "Smiths 'closer than ever' to reunion",] ''The Sun'', 24 October 2008. Retrieved 7 January 2012. See also [http://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/40634 "The Smiths to reform for Coachella 2009?",] ''NME'', 24 October 2008. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref> Soon afterwards, ''NME'' scotched the story, also citing "sources close to the band", and quoting Johnny Marr's manager to the effect that it was "rubbish".<ref>[http://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/40643 "The Smiths definitely not reuniting for Coachella 2009",] ''NME'', 24 October 2008. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref>


Rourke played and recorded with [[the Pretenders]] (featuring on ''[[Last of the Independents]]'', 1994); [[Badly Drawn Boy]] (with whom he played for two years); [[Proud Mary (band)|Proud Mary]] (featuring on ''Love and Light'', 2004); and [[Ian Brown]] (featuring on ''[[The World Is Yours (Ian Brown album)|The World Is Yours]]'', 2007). In 2007, he formed [[Freebass]] with fellow bassists [[Peter Hook]] ([[New Order (band)|New Order]] and [[Joy Division]]) and [[Gary Mounfield|Mani]] ([[the Stone Roses]] and [[Primal Scream]]).<ref name=":3">{{Cite news |last=Beaumont-Thomas |first=Ben |date=2023-05-19 |title=Andy Rourke, bassist for the Smiths, dies aged 59 |work=[[The Guardian]] |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/may/19/andy-rourke-bassist-for-the-smiths-dies-aged-59 |access-date=2023-05-19 |issn=0261-3077}}</ref> Rourke co-founded the [[Manchester v Cancer]] concert series, later known as [[Versus Cancer]], to raise money for cancer research.{{Citation needed|date=May 2023}} He concentrated on his radio career, beginning with a Saturday-evening show on [[XFM]] Manchester. He was a regular on [[East Village Radio]], where his colleagues include Joyce.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20110623121120/http://www.eastvillageradio.com/shows/andyrourkesjetlag/ ''Andy Rourke's Jetlag''.] Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> Rourke relocated to New York in early 2009.<ref>[http://jetlagnyc.blogspot.com.au/search/label/info "About Jetlag"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210110024755/https://jetlagnyc.blogspot.com/search/label/info |date=10 January 2021 }}, ''Jetlag''. Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> There, he formed Jetlag, a "DJ and audio production outfit", with Olé Koretsky.<ref>[http://jetlagnyc.blogspot.com.au/ ''Jetlag''.] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20131019083229/http://jetlagnyc.blogspot.com.au/ |date=19 October 2013 }} Retrieved 10 January 2012.</ref> In April 2014, the [[The Cranberries|Cranberries]] vocalist [[Dolores O'Riordan]] joined the group and they changed their name to [[D.A.R.K. (band)|D.A.R.K.]]<ref>{{cite web |url=https://consequence.net/2016/09/cranberriessmiths-supergroup-d-a-r-k-share-gothic-club-track-the-moon-listen/ |work=Consequence of Sound |title=Cranberries/Smiths supergroup D.A.R.K. share gothic club track 'The Moon' |first=Alex |last=Galbraith |date=6 September 2016 |access-date=18 January 2019 |archive-date=26 February 2019 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190226155708/https://consequence.net/2016/09/cranberriessmiths-supergroup-d-a-r-k-share-gothic-club-track-the-moon-listen/ |url-status=live }}</ref>
In June 2009, Marr told an interviewer on London's [[XFM]], "I think we were offered 50 million dollars for three&nbsp;... possibly five shows." He said that the chances of a reunion were "nothing to do with money", and that the reasons were "really abstract".<ref>[http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2009/johnny-marr-weve-been-offered-50-million-to-reform-the-smiths "Johnny Marr: 'We've Been Offered $50 Million To Reform The Smiths'"], Radio XFM London 104.9, 30 June 2009. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref>


===Reunion speculation===
The closest Marr or Morrissey has come to any kind of reunion was in January 2006 when Johnny Marr and The Healers played at Andy Rourke's [[Manchester v Cancer]] benefit concert. There were suggestions leading up to the show that Morrissey might also be involved.<ref>Jonathan Cohen, [http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/60366/smiths-members-regrouping-for-cancer-benefit "Smiths Members Regrouping for Cancer Benefit",] ''Billboard'', December 2005. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Marr made it clear that this would not happen,<ref>"Johnny and the Healers play Manchester versus Cancer charity concert", media release, 16 December 2005. The release is no longer at johnny-marr.com, but it is preserved elsewhere, including in [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/170251 this post] at morrissey-solo.com, 4 January 2006. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> but did perform "How Soon Is Now?" with Rourke.<ref>[http://www.johnny-marr.com/dates/shows-archive "28 January 2006 – Johnny Marr and The Healers – Manchester vs Cancer – MEN Arena – Manchester UK"], Shows Archive, johnny-marr.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
Marr and Morrissey have repeatedly said that they will not reunite the band. In 2006, Morrissey declared, "I would rather eat my own testicles than reform the Smiths, and that's saying something for a vegetarian."<ref>Scott Colothan, [http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=15239 "Morrissey: 'I'd Rather Eat My Testicles Than Reform The Smiths'"], {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081212084806/http://www.gigwise.com/article.php?contentid=15239 |date=12 December 2008 }} ''Gigwise'', 30 March 2006. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> When asked why in another interview the same year, he responded, "I feel as if I've worked very hard since the demise of the Smiths and the others haven't, so why hand them attention that they haven't earned? We are not friends, we don't see each other. Why on earth would we be on a stage together?"<ref>Daniel Melia, [http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=18006 "Morrissey: 'The Smiths Don't Deserve to Be on Stage with Me'"], {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20081212045141/http://www.gigwise.com/article.php?contentid=18006 |date=12 December 2008 }} ''Gigwise'', 5 June 2006. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> In a February 2009 interview on [[BBC Radio 2]], he said, "People always ask me about reunions and I can't imagine why&nbsp;[...] the past seems like a distant place, and I'm pleased with that."<ref>[http://www.idiomag.com/peek/64678/morrissey "Morrissey turns down The Smiths&nbsp;... again"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120327140952/http://www.idiomag.com/peek/64678/morrissey |date=27 March 2012 }}, ''Idio'', 13 February 2009. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In 2002, Joyce said he was not interested in reforming as he felt the Smiths had run its course.<ref>{{cite web |last1=ITV |title=The Smiths – These Things Take Time (documentary) |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG0Gi5KeWLI | archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/youtube/20211029/WG0Gi5KeWLI| archive-date=2021-10-29|website=YouTube |date=3 April 2011 |access-date=11 April 2021}}{{cbignore}}</ref>

In November 2004, [[VH1]] screened a ''Backstage Pass Special'' episode of ''[[Bands Reunited]]'' showing host [[Aamer Haleem]] trying and failing to corner Morrissey before a show at the Apollo Theater.<ref>The encounter is described in an [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/04/11/12/153226.shtml anonymous post] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121120173430/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/04/11/12/153226.shtml |date=20 November 2012 }} at morrissey-solo.com, 12 November 2004; retrieved 8 January 2012. See also the VH1 [http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Coming+Up+on+VH1+November+5+-+November+11,+2004.-a0124018186 media release] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160305130213/http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Coming+Up+on+VH1+November+5+-+November+11,+2004.-a0124018186 |date=5 March 2016 }}, 3 November 2004; retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In March 2006, Morrissey said the Smiths had declined a $5&nbsp;million offer to perform at the [[Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival]], saying, "Money doesn't come into it ... It was a fantastic journey. And then it ended. I didn't feel we should have ended. I wanted to continue. [Marr] wanted to end it. And that was that."<ref name="billboard">Barry Jeckell, [https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/59064/morrissey-smiths-turned-down-millions-to-reunite "Morrissey: Smiths Turned Down Millions to Reunite"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181025153029/https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/59064/morrissey-smiths-turned-down-millions-to-reunite |date=25 October 2018 }}, ''Billboard'', 16 March 2006. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>

In August 2007, it was widely reported that Morrissey had that summer declined an offer of $75&nbsp;million – nearly £40&nbsp;million at the time – from a "consortium of promoters" to reunite with Marr for a fifty-date world tour under the Smiths' name in 2008 and 2009. ''[[NME]]'' gave Morrissey as its source for the story.<ref>[https://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/30599 "Morrissey rejects fresh attempt at Smiths reunion"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160306021322/http://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/30599 |date=6 March 2016 }}, ''NME'', 23 August 2007. Retrieved 7 January 2011.</ref> ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' cited his publicist.<ref>Elizabeth Goodman, [https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/morrissey-turned-down-mega-bucks-smiths-reunion-offer-over-johnny-marr-20070823 "Morrissey Turned Down Mega-Bucks Smiths Reunion Offer Over Johnny Marr"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171113162036/http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/morrissey-turned-down-mega-bucks-smiths-reunion-offer-over-johnny-marr-20070823 |date=13 November 2017 }}, ''Rolling Stone'', 23 August 2007. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> The offer was also reported at true-to-you.net, an unofficial fan site tacitly supported by Morrissey.<ref>[http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_070822_01 "Press release regarding tour dates"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120510055058/http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_070822_01 |date=10 May 2012 }}, 22 August 2007. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref> It was later described as a hoax, although it is unclear who was hoaxing whom.<ref>[http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=26177_0_2_0_C "Morrissey announces new album – reunion tour Smiths a hoax"] {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120609063109/http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=26177_0_2_0_C |date=9 June 2012 }}, 3 October 2007. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In October, Marr said on [[BBC Radio 5 Live]]: "Stranger things have happened so, you know, who knows? ... It's no biggie. Maybe we will in 10 or 15 years' time when we all need to for whatever reasons, but right now Morrissey is doing his thing and I'm doing mine."<ref>[http://everyjoe.com/entertainment/johnny-marr-doesnt-rule-out-smiths-reunion-with-morrissey/ "Johnny Marr Doesn't Rule Out Smiths Reunion with Morrissey"], {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120308040831/http://everyjoe.com/entertainment/johnny-marr-doesnt-rule-out-smiths-reunion-with-morrissey/ |date=8 March 2012 }} ''Every Joe'', 23 October 2007. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>

In 2008, Marr resumed contact with Morrissey and Rourke while remastering the band's catalogue.<ref name="guardmarr">{{cite web|last1=Hattenstone|first1=Simon|title=Johnny Marr: 'The conversation about re-forming the Smiths came out of the blue'|url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/29/johnny-marr-the-smiths-morrissey-simon-hattenstone|website=The Guardian|access-date=29 October 2016|date=29 October 2016|archive-date=30 October 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20161030081914/https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/29/johnny-marr-the-smiths-morrissey-simon-hattenstone|url-status=live}}</ref> That September, Morrissey and Marr met in Manchester and discussed the possibility of reforming the band.<ref name="guardmarr" /> The two kept in contact over the next four days and decided to exclude Joyce from any prospective reunion and to wait until after Marr completed his commitments to [[the Cribs]].<ref name="guardmarr" /> Communication between the two abruptly ended while Marr was touring in Mexico with the Cribs and the topic of a reunion was never brought up again.<ref name="guardmarr" /> Marr said that he did not hear from Morrissey again until a brief email correspondence in December 2010.<ref name="guardmarr" /> In June 2009, Marr told an interviewer on London's [[XFM]], "I think we were offered 50 million dollars for three&nbsp;... possibly five shows." He said that the chances of a reunion were "nothing to do with money" and that the reasons were "really abstract".<ref>[http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2009/johnny-marr-weve-been-offered-50-million-to-reform-the-smiths "Johnny Marr: 'We've Been Offered $50 Million To Reform The Smiths'"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120826130122/http://www.xfm.co.uk/news/2009/johnny-marr-weve-been-offered-50-million-to-reform-the-smiths |date=26 August 2012 }}, Radio XFM London 104.9, 30 June 2009. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref>


In January 2006, Marr and the Healers played at Rourke's [[Manchester v Cancer]] benefit concert, where Marr performed "How Soon Is Now?" with Rourke.<ref>[http://www.johnny-marr.com/dates/shows-archive "28 January 2006 – Johnny Marr and The Healers – Manchester vs Cancer – MEN Arena – Manchester UK"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120101023608/http://www.johnny-marr.com/dates/shows-archive |date=1 January 2012 }}, Shows Archive, johnny-marr.com. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Marr and Rourke also performed "How Soon Is Now?" at the Lollapallooza Brazil festival in 2014.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://musica.uol.com.br/noticias/redacao/2014/04/06/com-andy-rourke-johnny-marr-faz-show-possivel-do-smiths-no-lollapalooza.htm|title=Com Andy Rourke Johnny Marr faz show possivel do Smiths no lollapalooza|publisher=musica.uol.com.br|access-date=6 April 2014|archive-date=7 April 2014|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140407074927/http://musica.uol.com.br/noticias/redacao/2014/04/06/com-andy-rourke-johnny-marr-faz-show-possivel-do-smiths-no-lollapalooza.htm|url-status=live}}</ref> Rourke died of [[pancreatic cancer]] on 19 May 2023, aged 59.<ref name=":3" />
===Repackaging===
Since the band split, its members have sanctioned the release of a live album (''[[Rank (album)|Rank]]'', 1988), four greatest-hits collections (''[[Best...I|Best&nbsp;... I]]'', 1992; ''[[...Best II|...&nbsp;Best II]]'', 1992; ''[[Singles (The Smiths album)|Singles]]'', 1995; and ''[[The Sound of The Smiths]]'', 2008), one miscellaneous compilation (''[[Stop Me]]'', 1988), and two box-sets (''[[The Smiths Singles Box]]'', 2008; and ''[[Complete (The Smiths album)|Complete]]'', 2011). There has also been an unsanctioned greatest-hits collection (''[[The Very Best of The Smiths]]'', 2001). This is in addition to the compilations released during the band's lifetime (''[[Hatful of Hollow]]'', 1984; ''[[The World Won't Listen]]'', 1987; and ''[[Louder Than Bombs]]'', 1987). It represents a great deal of recycling for a group whose core [[The Smiths discography|discography]] consists of four forty-minute albums and eleven non-album singles.


In August 2024, Morrissey said in a post on his website, Morrissey Central, that he and Marr had received a "lucrative offer" to tour as the Smiths in 2025.<ref name="moz central 2024">{{cite web |last1=Morrissey |title=WAR IS OLD, ART IS YOUNG |url=https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/war-is-old-art-is-young |website=Morrissey Central |access-date=2 September 2024}}</ref> The singer claimed that he accepted the invitation, but that Marr did not respond. Marr soon after posted a picture of [[Reform UK]] leader [[Nigel Farage]] to rebuke calls to reunite in the aftermath of [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]]'s reunion. Marr previously said in 2016 that Morrissey's politics aligned with Farage's, joking that any potential Smiths reunion would feature the politician as their replacement guitarist.<ref name="bbc reunion 2024">{{cite web |last1=Long |first1=Chris |title=Morrissey claims Johnny Marr 'ignored' 2025 Smiths reunion offer |url=https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp352111wyxo |website=[[BBC News]] |access-date=2 September 2024}}</ref> Weeks later, on Marr's official [[Instagram]], Marr's management issued an official statement in response to Morrissey's claims that Marr ignored the offer: "As for the offer to tour, I didn't ignore the offer - I said no."<ref name="Marr Variety"/> Marr's statement also clarified other claims made by Morrissey's team on Morrissey's website such as that Marr had filed for 100% ownership of the Smiths' intellectual property and [[trademark]] rights without having consulted with Morrissey despite the fact that "Morrissey alone created the musical unit name "The Smiths' in May 1982".<ref>{{cite web | title=MESSAGES FROM MORRISSEY | website=MORRISSEY CENTRAL | date=16 September 2024 | url=https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/the-plot-thickens | access-date=2024-09-17}}</ref> In Marr's statement, it was clarified that Marr discovered that the band did not own the trademark, and in an effort to protect the trademark from a third party attempt made in 2018 to use the band's name, Marr registered the trademark solely under his name after a failure to receive a response from Morrissey and his representatives. In January 2024, Marr signed an agreement to share ownership of the name with Morrissey, an agreement Morrissey has yet to follow up on. Marr further clarified that the efforts to take the trademark were not to tour under the Smiths' name with a singer of Marr's choice (contrary to the claims made by Morrissey's team), but rather simply to protect the band's name and use of the name.<ref name="Marr Variety">{{cite web|last=Aswad|first=Jem|title=Johnny Marr Responds to Morrissey’s Claims About Smiths Reunion Tour, Name Ownership: ‘It Was Left to Me to Protect the Legacy’|work=Variety|date=17 September 2024|url=https://variety.com/2024/music/news/smiths-johnny-marr-responds-to-morrissey-reunion-tour-1236147686/|access-date=18 September 2024}}</ref>
As critic Stephen Thomas Erlewine has pointed out, "Several months after releasing their first album, the Smiths issued the singles and rarities collection ''Hatful of Hollow'', establishing a tradition of repackaging their material as many times and as quickly as possible."<ref>Stephen Thomas Erlewine, [http://www.allmusic.com/album/hatful-of-hollow-r189450 "The Smiths: Hatful of Hollow: Review",] ''Allmusic''. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref> Erlewine elsewhere observes that, "the anti-record company "Paint a Vulgar Picture" – on ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' – "has grown increasingly ironic in the wake of the Smiths' and Morrissey's love of repackaging the same material in new compilations."<ref>Stephen Thomas Erlewine, [http://www.allmusic.com/album/strangeways-here-we-come-r18321/review "The Smiths: Strangeways, Here We Come: Review",] ''Allmusic''. Retrieved 7 January 2012.</ref>


==Musical style==
==Musical style==
Morrissey and Johnny Marr dictated the musical direction of The Smiths. Marr said in 1990 that it "was a 50/50 thing between Morrissey and me. We were completely in sync about which way we should go for each record".<ref name="Joe Gore 1990">Joe Gore, "Guitar Anti-hero", ''Guitar Player'', January 1990.</ref> The band's "non-rhythm-and-blues, whiter-than-white fusion of 1960s rock and [[post-punk|postpunk]] was a repudiation of contemporary dance pop" – the style popular in the early 1980s.<ref name="Ref-1">Simon C. W. Reynolds, [http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/549957/the-Smiths "The Smiths",] ''Britannica Online''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> The band purposely rejected synthesisers and [[dance music]].<ref name="Johnny Rogan 1992 pp. 281-282"/> It sometimes used [[Sergei Prokofiev|Sergei Prokofiev's]] ''[[Montagues and Capulets]]'' as entrance music at live shows.
Morrissey and Marr dictated the musical direction of the Smiths. Marr said in 1990 that it "was a 50/50 thing between Morrissey and me. We were completely in sync about which way we should go for each record".<ref name="Joe Gore 1990">Joe Gore, "Guitar Anti-hero", ''Guitar Player'', January 1990.</ref> The Smiths' "non-rhythm-and-blues, whiter-than-white fusion of 1960s rock and [[post-punk]] was a repudiation of contemporary dance pop",<ref name="Ref-1">Simon C. W. Reynolds, [http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/549957/the-Smiths "The Smiths"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150504043826/http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/549957/the-Smiths |date=4 May 2015 }}, ''Britannica Online''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> and the band purposely rejected synthesisers and [[dance music]].<ref name="Johnny Rogan 1992 pp. 281-282"/> From their second album ''Meat Is Murder'', Marr embellished their songs with keyboards.<ref name="Marr_Byrds" />


Marr's jangly [[Rickenbacker]] guitar-playing was influenced by [[Roger McGuinn]] of [[The Byrds]], [[Neil Young|Neil Young's]] work with [[Crazy Horse (band)|Crazy Horse]], [[George Harrison]] and [[James Honeyman-Scott]] of [[The Pretenders]]. Marr often tuned his guitar up a full step to F-sharp to accommodate Morrissey's vocal range, and also used [[open tunings]]. Citing producer [[Phil Spector]] as an influence, Marr said, "I like the idea of records, even those with plenty of space, that sound 'symphonic'. I like the idea of all the players merging into one atmosphere".<ref name="Joe Gore 1990"/> Marr's other favourite guitarists are [[James Williamson (musician)|James Williamson]] of [[The Stooges]], [[Rory Gallagher]], [[Pete Townshend]] of [[The Who]], [[Jimi Hendrix]], [[Marc Bolan]], [[Keith Richards]] and [[John McGeoch]] of [[Magazine (band)|Magazine]] and [[Siouxsie and the Banshees]].<ref>"Johnny Marr's Top Ten Guitarists", ''Uncut'', November 2004. Marr's selections are [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/91739-Johnny-Marr-s-Top-Ten-Guitarists summarised] at morrissey-solo.com, 12 October 2008. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref>
Marr's jangly guitar-playing was influenced by [[James Honeyman-Scott]] of [[the Pretenders]],<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/theres-a-lot-of-guitar-culture-that-i-dont-like-at-all-how-johnny-marr-placed-the-smiths-at-the-forefront-of-the-uks-1980s-music-scene |title={{-'}}There's a Lot of Guitar Culture That I Don't Like At All': How Johnny Marr Placed The Smiths at the Forefront of the U.K.'s 1980s Music Scene |work=[[Guitar Player]] |first=Mark |last=McStea |date=22 February 2022 |access-date=2024-12-12}}</ref> and [[Bert Jansch]] of [[Pentangle (band)|Pentangle]].<ref>{{YouTube |5GUCqMEeaRY |Interview: Johnny Marr plays tribute to guitar hero Bert Jansch – 2015}}</ref> Marr often used a capo to tune his guitar up a full step to F-sharp to accommodate Morrissey's vocal range and also used [[open tunings]]. Citing producer [[Phil Spector]] as an influence, Marr said, "I like the idea of records, even those with plenty of space, that sound 'symphonic'. I like the idea of all the players merging into one atmosphere".<ref name="Joe Gore 1990"/> Marr's other favourite guitarists are [[James Williamson (musician)|James Williamson]] of [[the Stooges]], [[Rory Gallagher]], [[Pete Townshend]] of [[the Who]], [[Jimi Hendrix]], [[Marc Bolan]] of [[T. Rex (band)|T. Rex]], [[Keith Richards]] of [[the Rolling Stones]], and [[John McGeoch]] of [[Magazine (band)|Magazine]] and [[Siouxsie and the Banshees]].<ref>"Johnny Marr's Top Ten Guitarists", ''Uncut'', November 2004. Marr's selections are [http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/91739-Johnny-Marr-s-Top-Ten-Guitarists summarised] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120101071653/http://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/91739-Johnny-Marr-s-Top-Ten-Guitarists |date=1 January 2012 }} at morrissey-solo.com, 12 October 2008. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> In a 2007 interview for the BBC, Marr said that his goal was to "pare down" his style and avoid rock guitar clichés.<ref>BBC Four, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VozP2JzueI Johnny Marr – The Joy Of The Guitar Riff] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200118081022/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VozP2JzueI |date=18 January 2020 }}, accessed 7 April 2018</ref> Marr used "arpeggiated chords, open-string licks and unusual progressions" and his style "combined the chime of '60s jangle-pop bands with the pared-down musicality of players like [[Nile Rodgers]] and Keith Richards."<ref>{{cite web | url=https://www.guitarplayer.com/lessons/johnny-marr-guitar-lesson | title=The Ultimate Johnny Marr Guitar Lesson | work=Guitar Player | first=Patrick | last=Brennan | date=29 September 2023 |access-date=22 August 2024}}</ref> Marr also used an [[overdrive pedal]] in "[[London (The Smiths song)|London]]".<ref>{{Cite web |last=Franklin |first=Jamie |date=16 December 2009 |title=Johnny Marr – PowerOn |url=http://www.roland.co.uk/blog/johnny-marr-2/ |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140805072626/http://www.roland.co.uk/blog/johnny-marr-2/ |archive-date=5 August 2014 |access-date=2 September 2022 |website=Roland UK}}</ref>


Morrissey's role was to create vocal melodies and lyrics.<ref>Jennifer Nine, "The Importance of Being Morrissey", ''[[Melody Maker]]'', 9 August 1997. The full text of the interview is reproduced [http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1997/import.htm here.] Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey's songwriting was influenced by punk rock and post-punk bands such as the [[New York Dolls]], [[The Cramps]], and [[The Cult]], along with 1960s [[girl group]]s, and singers such as [[Dusty Springfield]], [[Sandie Shaw]], [[Marianne Faithfull]], and [[Timi Yuro]]. Morrissey's lyrics, while superficially depressing, were often full of mordant humour; John Peel remarked that The Smiths were one of the few bands capable of making him laugh out loud. Influenced by his childhood interest in the [[social realism]] of 1960s [[kitchen sink realism|"kitchen sink"]] television plays, Morrissey wrote about ordinary people and their experiences with despair, rejection and death. While "songs such as 'Still Ill' sealed his role as spokesman for disaffected youth", Morrissey's "manic-depressive rants" and his "'woe-is-me' posture inspired some hostile critics to dismiss the Smiths as 'miserabilists.'"<ref name="Ref-1"/>
Morrissey's role was to create vocal melodies and lyrics.<ref>Jennifer Nine, "The Importance of Being Morrissey", ''[[Melody Maker]]'', 9 August 1997. The full text of the interview is reproduced [http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1997/import.htm here.] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120120071530/http://motorcycleaupairboy.com/interviews/1997/import.htm |date=20 January 2012 }} Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Morrissey's songwriting was influenced by punk rock and post-punk bands such as [[New York Dolls]], [[the Cramps]], [[the Specials]] and [[the Cult]], along with 1960s [[girl group]]s and singers such as [[Dusty Springfield]], [[Sandie Shaw]], [[Marianne Faithfull]] and [[Timi Yuro]]. Morrissey's lyrics, while superficially depressing, were often full of mordant humour; John Peel remarked that the Smiths were one of the few bands capable of making him laugh out loud.{{citation needed|date=April 2024}} Influenced by his childhood interest in the [[social realism]] of 1960s [[kitchen sink realism|"kitchen sink"]] television plays, Morrissey wrote about ordinary people and their experiences with despair, rejection and death. While "songs such as 'Still Ill' sealed his role as spokesman for disaffected youth", Morrissey's "manic-depressive rants" and his {{"'}}woe-is-me' posture inspired some hostile critics to dismiss the Smiths as 'miserabilists.{{'"}}<ref name="Ref-1"/> Julian Stringer characterised the Smiths as "one of Britain's most overtly political groups",{{sfn|Stringer|1992|p=16}} while in his study of their work, Andrew Warnes termed them "the most anti-capitalist of bands".{{sfn|Warnes|2008|p=143}}


==Visual imagery==
==Imagery==
The group's cover artwork had a distinctive visual style and often featured images of film and pop stars, usually in [[duotone]]. Design was by Morrissey and Rough Trade art coordinator Jo Slee. The covers of singles rarely featured any text other than the band name, and the band itself did not appear on the cover of any UK release. (Morrissey did, however, appear on an alternative cover for "What Difference Does It Make?", mimicking the pose of the original subject, British actor [[Terence Stamp]], after the latter objected to his picture being used.) The choice of cover subjects reflected Morrissey's interest in cult film stars (Stamp, [[Alain Delon]], [[Jean Marais]], [[Andy Warhol|Warhol]] protégé [[Joe Dallesandro]], [[James Dean]]); figures from sixties British popular culture ([[Viv Nicholson]], [[Pat Phoenix]], [[Yootha Joyce]], [[Shelagh Delaney]]); and anonymous images from old films and magazines.<ref>{{cite web| url = http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/under_the_covers/the-smiths.htm
The group's cover artwork had a distinctive visual style and often featured images of film and pop stars, usually in [[duotone]]. Design was by Morrissey and Rough Trade art coordinator Jo Slee. The covers of singles rarely featured any text other than the band name and the band itself did not appear on the cover of any UK release. (Morrissey did, however, appear on an alternative cover for "What Difference Does It Make?", mimicking the pose of the original subject, actor [[Terence Stamp]], after the latter objected to his picture being used.) The choice of cover subjects reflected Morrissey's interest in film stars (Stamp, [[Alain Delon]], [[Jean Marais]], [[Warhol]] protégé [[Joe Dallesandro]], [[James Dean]]); figures from sixties British popular culture ([[Viv Nicholson]], [[Pat Phoenix]], [[Yootha Joyce]], [[Shelagh Delaney]]); and anonymous images from old films and magazines.<ref>{{cite web| url = http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/under_the_covers/the-smiths.htm| title = The Smiths. Under the Covers| author = Powell, Mike| date = 15 March 2005| access-date = 5 April 2012| publisher = stylusmagazine.com| archive-date = 13 April 2012| archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20120413104743/http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/under_the_covers/the-smiths.htm| url-status = live}}</ref>
| title = The Smiths. Under the Covers| author = Powell, Mike| date = 15 March 2005| accessdate =5 April 2012| publisher = stylusmagazine.com}}</ref>


The Smiths dressed mainly in ordinary clothes&nbsp;– jeans and plain shirts&nbsp;– in keeping with the back-to-basics, guitar-and-drums style of the music. This contrasted with the exotic high-fashion image cultivated by [[New Romantic]] pop groups such as [[Spandau Ballet]] and [[Duran Duran]] and highlighted in magazines such as ''[[The Face (magazine)|The Face]]'' and ''[[i-D]]''. In 1986, when The Smiths performed on the British music programme ''[[The Old Grey Whistle Test]]'', Morrissey wore a fake hearing-aid to support a hearing-impaired fan who was ashamed of using one,<ref>Johnny Rogan, ''Morrissey and Marr: The Severed Alliance'' (London: Omnibus, 1992).</ref> and also frequently wore thick-rimmed [[National Health Service]]-style glasses.
The Smiths dressed mainly in ordinary clothes&nbsp;– jeans and plain shirts&nbsp;– in keeping with the back-to-basics, guitar-and-drums style of the music. This contrasted with the exotic high-fashion image cultivated by [[New Romantic]] pop groups such as [[Spandau Ballet]] and [[Duran Duran]] and highlighted in magazines such as ''[[The Face (magazine)|The Face]]'' and ''[[i-D]]''. In 1986, when the Smiths performed on the British music programme ''[[The Old Grey Whistle Test]]'', Morrissey wore a fake hearing-aid to support a hearing-impaired fan who was ashamed of using one,<ref>Johnny Rogan, ''Morrissey and Marr: The Severed Alliance'' (London: Omnibus, 1992).</ref> and also frequently wore thick-rimmed [[NHS]]-style glasses. Morrissey also would often wave [[gladiolus]] flowers onstage.

As frontman of the Smiths, Morrissey subverted many of the norms that were associated with pop and rock music.{{sfn|Simpson|2004|pp=23–24}} The band's aesthetic simplicity was a reaction to the excess personified by the [[New Romantics]],{{sfn|Simpson|2004|p=101}} and while Morrissey adopted an androgynous appearance like the New Romantics or earlier glam rockers, his was far more subtle and understated.{{sfn|Simpson|2004|p=102}} According to one commentator, "he was bookish; he wore NHS spectacles and a hearing aid on stage; he was celibate. Worst of all, he was sincere", with his music being "so intoxicatingly melancholic, so dangerously thoughtful, so seductively funny that it lured its listeners... into a relationship with him and his music instead of the world."{{sfn|Simpson|2004|p=24}}


==Legacy==
==Legacy==
The Smiths have been widely influential. Marr's guitar playing "was a huge building block for more Manchester legends that followed The Smiths", including [[The Stone Roses]], whose guitarist [[John Squire]] has said Marr was an influence.<ref>Stephen Dowling, [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3005033.stm "The Smiths: The Influential Alliance,"] BBC News, 13 May 2003. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]] guitarist [[Noel Gallagher]] also cites The Smiths as an influence, especially Marr. Gallagher has said that "When [[The Jam]] split, The Smiths started, and I totally went for them."<ref>Dowling, "The Influential Alliance".</ref>
The Smiths have been widely influential. Ian Youngs of [[BBC News]] described them as "the band that inspired deeper devotion than any British group since [[the Beatles]]".<ref>{{cite news | url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21323467 | title=Johnny Marr on The Smiths and going solo | first=Ian | last=Youngs | work=BBC News | date=17 February 2013 | access-date=18 February 2013 | archive-date=19 April 2013 | archive-url=https://archive.today/20130419175039/http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21323467 | url-status=live }}</ref> Marr's guitar playing "was a huge building block for more Manchester legends that followed the Smiths", including [[the Stone Roses]], whose guitarist [[John Squire]] said Marr was an influence.<ref>Stephen Dowling, [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3005033.stm "The Smiths: The Influential Alliance,"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090214032916/http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3005033.stm |date=14 February 2009 }} BBC News, 13 May 2003. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> The [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]] songwriter and guitarist [[Noel Gallagher]] also cited the Smiths as an influence, especially Marr, saying that "when [[the Jam]] split, the Smiths started, and I totally went for them".<ref>Dowling, "The Influential Alliance".</ref> The Smiths were an early influence on [[Radiohead]] and inspired their 2001 single "[[Knives Out (song)|Knives Out]]".<ref name="guitar-world">{{cite magazine |last=Randall |first=Mac |date=1 April 1998 |title=The Golden Age of Radiohead |url=https://www.guitarworld.com/features/radiohead-interview-golden-age-radiohead |magazine=[[Guitar World]]}}</ref><ref name="Hoskyns">{{Cite web |last=Hoskyns |first=Barney |author-link=Barney Hoskyns |date=September 2001 |title=The Backpages Interview: Johnny Marr |url=https://www.rocksbackpages.com/Library/Article/the-backpages-interview-johnny-marr |url-access=subscription |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20011013053327/http://www.rocksbackpages.com/features/smiths/hoskyns.html |archive-date=13 October 2001 |access-date=16 October 2023 |website=[[Rock's Backpages]]}}</ref> In 2001, Marr said Radiohead were the act that had "come closest to the genuine influence of the Smiths".<ref name="Hoskyns"/>


[[Alex Turner]] of the English rock band [[Arctic Monkeys]] cited the Smiths as a formative influence.<ref>* {{cite web | title=The Smiths album that changed Alex Turner's life | website=Far Out Magazine | date=September 16, 2021 | url=https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-smiths-album-changed-alex-turners-life/ | ref={{sfnref | Far Out Magazine | 2021}} | access-date=April 21, 2024}}</ref> The Canadian artist [[the Weeknd]] listed the Smiths as an inspiration during the making of his third studio album, ''[[Starboy (album)|Starboy]].''<ref>* {{cite web | last=Claymore | first=Gabriela Tully | title=The Weeknd Talks New Album Inspired By Talking Heads, Bad Brains, & The Smiths | website=Stereogum | date=September 6, 2016 | url=https://www.stereogum.com/1897400/the-weeknd-talks-new-album-inspired-by-talking-heads-bad-brains-the-smiths/news/ | access-date=April 21, 2024}}</ref> The American singer-songwriter [[Jeff Buckley]] was a fan of the Smiths and Morrissey.<ref>* {{cite web | title=Jeff Buckley revealed as massive Smiths fan | website=NME | date=May 25, 2007 | url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/jeff-buckley-21-1342033 | ref={{sfnref | NME | 2007}} | access-date=April 21, 2024}}</ref> Buckley often covered Smiths songs such as "[[I Know It's Over|I Know it's Over]]" and "[[The Boy with the Thorn in His Side]]". Morrissey expressed admiration for Buckley's work, listing his album ''[[Grace (Jeff Buckley album)|Grace]]'' as his 12th-favourite album in 2010.<ref>* {{cite web | title=Morrissey Reveals His Favourite LPs Of All Time | website=The Quietus | date=August 13, 2010 | url=https://thequietus.com/articles/04797-morrissey-s-supreme-13-favourite-albums?page=3 | ref={{sfnref | The Quietus | 2010}} | access-date=April 21, 2024}}</ref>
The [[BBC]] has described The Smiths as "the band that inspired deeper devotion than any British group since [[The Beatles]]".<ref>{{cite news | url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21323467 | title= Johnny Marr on The Smiths and going solo | work=BBC News | date=17 Feb 2013 | accessdate=18 Feb 2013}}</ref>


Simon Goddard argued in 2007 that as "the one truly vital voice of the '80s, The Smiths were the most influential British guitar group of the decade. As the first indie outsiders to achieve mainstream success on their own terms (their second album proper, 1985's Meat Is Murder, made Number 1 in the UK), they elevated rock's standard four-piece formula to new heights of magic and poetry. Their legacy can be traced down through [[The Stone Roses]], [[Oasis (band)|Oasis]] and [[The Libertines]] to today's crop of artful young guitar bands."<ref>Simon Goddard, "The Last Rites", ''Q'', No.&nbsp;250, May 2007.</ref>
In ''[[Q magazine|Q]],'' [[Simon Goddard]] argued in 2007 that the Smiths were "the one truly vital voice of the '80s" and "the most influential British guitar group of the decade". He continued: "As the first indie outsiders to achieve mainstream success on their own terms (their second album proper, 1985's ''Meat Is Murder'', made Number 1 in the UK), they elevated rock's standard four-piece formula to new heights of magic and poetry. Their legacy can be traced down through the Stone Roses, Oasis and [[the Libertines]] to today's crop of artful young guitar bands."<ref>Simon Goddard, "The Last Rites", ''Q'', No.&nbsp;250, May 2007.</ref>


''[[Uncut (magazine)|Uncut]]'' magazine's Simon Reynolds wrote of the band: "Once upon a time, a band from the North came with a sound so fresh and vigorous it took the nation by storm. The sound was rock, but crucially it was pop, too: concise, punchy, melodic, shiny without being "plastic". The singer was a true original, delivering a blend of sensitivity and strength, defiance and tenderness, via a regionally inflected voice. The young man's lips spilled forth words that were realistic without being dour, full of sly humour and beautifully observed detail. Most recognised their debut album as a landmark, an instant classic."<ref>Simon Reynolds, ''Uncut'', No.&nbsp;120, May 2007.</ref>
In ''[[Uncut (magazine)|Uncut]],'' [[Simon Reynolds]] wrote: "Once upon a time, a band from the North came with a sound so fresh and vigorous it took the nation by storm. The sound was rock, but crucially it was pop, too: concise, punchy, melodic, shiny without being 'plastic'. The singer was a true original, delivering a blend of sensitivity and strength, defiance and tenderness, via a regionally inflected voice. The young man's lips spilled forth words that were realistic without being dour, full of sly humour and beautifully observed detail. Most recognised their debut album as a landmark, an instant classic."<ref>Simon Reynolds, ''Uncut'', No.&nbsp;120, May 2007.</ref>


The "Britpop movement pre-empted by The Stone Roses and spearheaded by groups like Oasis, [[Suede (band)|Suede]] and Blur, drew heavily from Morrissey's portrayal of and nostalgia for a bleak urban England of the past."<ref>Chloe Veltman, [http://www.believermag.com/exclusives/?read=article_veltman "The Passion of the Morrissey",] ''The Believer''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> [[Blur (band)|Blur]] formed as a result of seeing The Smiths on ''The South Bank Show'' in 1987.<ref name="Veltman, The Passion">Veltman, "The Passion".</ref> Yet even while leading bands from the Britpop movement were influenced by The Smiths, they were at odds with the "basic anti-establishment philosophies of Morrissey and The Smiths", since Britpop "was an entirely commercial construct."<ref name="Veltman, The Passion"/> Mark Simpson has suggested that "the whole point of Britpop was to airbrush Morrissey out of the picture&nbsp;... Morrissey had to become an 'unperson' so that the Nineties and its centrally-planned and coordinated pop economy could happen."<ref>Mark Simpson, ''Saint Morrissey: A Portrait of This Charming Man by an Alarming Fan'' (New York: Simon and Schuster, rev. edn. 2006).</ref>
The "[[Britpop]] movement pre-empted by the Stone Roses and spearheaded by groups like Oasis, [[Suede (band)|Suede]] and [[Blur (band)|Blur]] drew heavily from Morrissey's portrayal of and nostalgia for a bleak urban England of the past."<ref>Chloe Veltman, [http://www.believermag.com/exclusives/?read=article_veltman "The Passion of the Morrissey"] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080728053248/http://www.believermag.com/exclusives/?read=article_veltman |date=28 July 2008 }}, ''The Believer''. Retrieved 8 January 2012.</ref> Blur formed as a result of seeing the Smiths on ''[[The South Bank Show]]'' in 1987. Yet even while leading bands from the Britpop movement were influenced by the Smiths, they were at odds with the "basic anti-establishment philosophies of Morrissey and the Smiths", since Britpop "was an entirely commercial construct".<ref name="Veltman, The Passion">Veltman, "The Passion".</ref> Mark Simpson suggested that "the whole point of Britpop was to airbrush Morrissey out of the picture&nbsp;... Morrissey had to become an 'unperson' so that the Nineties and its centrally-planned and coordinated pop economy could happen."<ref>Mark Simpson, ''Saint Morrissey: A Portrait of This Charming Man by an Alarming Fan'' (New York: Simon and Schuster, rev. edn. 2006).</ref>


''[[Teezo Touchdown]]'' included them in a Counter Culture playlist on [[Spotify]]. ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' included four Smiths albums on its 2012 list of the "[[Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time|500 Greatest Albums of All Time]]",<ref name=":2">{{cite web|title=Top 500 albums of all time|url=http://www.archer2000.net/sbs/awardsrs500.html|access-date=26 April 2013|publisher=Rolling Stone LLC/Archer & Valerie Productions|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140102200719/http://www.archer2000.net/sbs/awardsrs500.html|archive-date=2 January 2014|url-status=dead}}</ref> and included "[[William, It Was Really Nothing]]" and "[[How Soon Is Now?]]" on its 2004 list of the "[[500 Greatest Songs of All Time]]".<ref>{{Cite magazine|date=2003-12-11|title=500 Greatest Songs of All Time|url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/500-greatest-songs-of-all-time-151127/|access-date=2021-09-19|magazine=[[Rolling Stone]]}}</ref> Morrissey is included in its 2010 list of the greatest singers.<ref>{{Cite magazine|date=2010-12-03|title=100 Greatest Singers of All Time|url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-greatest-singers-of-all-time-147019/|access-date=2021-09-19|magazine=[[Rolling Stone]]}}</ref> In 2014 and 2015, the Smiths were nominated for the [[Rock and Roll Hall of Fame]].<ref name="greene">{{cite magazine|last=Greene|first=Andy|date=9 October 2014|title=Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, Smiths Nominated for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/green-day-nine-inch-nails-smiths-nominated-for-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-20141009|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20141019111950/http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/green-day-nine-inch-nails-smiths-nominated-for-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-20141009|archive-date=19 October 2014|access-date=11 January 2016|magazine=Rolling Stone}}</ref><ref name="france">{{cite news|last1=France|first1=Lisa Respers|date=8 October 2015|title=Janet Jackson, N.W.A, Los Lobos among Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees|work=[[CNN]]|url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/entertainment/rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-feat/|url-status=live|access-date=11 October 2015|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20151011012624/http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/entertainment/rock-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-feat|archive-date=11 October 2015}}</ref>
Playwright [[Shaun Duggan|Shaun Duggan's]] stage drama ''William'', [[Alex Broun|Alex Broun's]] one-man show ''Half a Person: My Life as Told by The Smiths'',<ref>[http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/theatre/half-a-person-my-life-as-told-by-the-smiths-20100523-w3te.html "Half a Person: My Life as Told by The Smiths",] ''The Age'', 24 May 2010. Retrieved 9 January 2012.</ref> [[Douglas Coupland|Douglas Coupland's]] 1998 novel ''Girlfriend in a Coma'', [[Andrew Collins (broadcaster)|Andrew Collins']] autobiography ''Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now'', [[Marc Spitz|Mark Spitz's]] novel ''How Soon is Never?'', the pop band [[Shakespears Sister]], the defunct art-punk group [[Pretty Girls Make Graves]], and the Polish filmmaker Przemyslaw Wojcieszek's short fictional film about two Polish fans of The Smiths, ''Louder Than Bombs'', are all inspired by or named after songs or albums by The Smiths. The Smiths' album, ''The Queen Is Dead'' is referenced in the Sleeper song, "Dress Like Your Mother". The Smiths' "How Soon Is Now?" is the theme song for the US television series ''[[Charmed]]'' and, in a cover version, for the 1996 Columbia Pictures feature film, ''[[The Craft (film)|The Craft]]'', in which it is played under the opening credits by [[Love Spit Love]]. "How Soon is Now ?" was also covered by British metal band [[Paradise Lost (band)|Paradise Lost]] on the limited edition ''Say Just Words'' EP in 1997.


In 2021 and 2023, the band [[Blossoms (band)|Blossoms]] and the singer [[Rick Astley]] performed several concerts of Smiths covers, including a performance at [[Glastonbury Festival 2023|2023 Glastonbury Festival]]. The ''Guardian'' gave the performances positive reviews, suggesting they offered fans a way to enjoy the Smiths without the "moral queasiness" of Morrissey, who had become a controversial figure in the preceding years.<ref>{{Cite news |last=Simpson |first=Dave |date=2021-10-10 |title=Rick Astley and Blossoms review – the ultimate Smiths karaoke shouldn't work, but it does |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/oct/10/rick-astley-blossoms-review-smiths-karaoke-albert-hall-manchester |access-date=2023-06-25 |work=[[The Guardian]] |issn=0261-3077}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news |last=Williams |first=Jenessa |date=2023-06-24 |title=Blossoms and Rick Astley at Glastonbury review – Smiths hits are the very opposite of miserable now |url=https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jun/24/blossoms-rick-astley-glastonbury-review-smiths-covers-morrissey |access-date=2023-06-25 |work=[[The Guardian]] |issn=0261-3077}}</ref> Morrissey thanked Blossoms and Astley on his website, but Marr said the performances were "funny and horrible at the same time".<ref>{{cite web |last=Trendell |first=Andrew |date=2021-09-24 |title=Johnny Marr puts Blossoms and Rick Astley Smiths covers row to bed: 'I've dealt with it' |url=https://www.nme.com/news/music/johnny-marr-puts-blossoms-and-rick-astley-smiths-covers-row-to-bed-ive-dealt-with-it-3054333 |access-date=2024-12-12 |website=[[NME]]}}</ref>
==Discography==
{{Main|The Smiths discography|List of songs recorded by The Smiths}}


== Members ==
;Studio albums
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*''[[The Smiths (album)|The Smiths]]'' (1984)
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*''[[Meat Is Murder]]'' (1985)
'''Principal members'''
*''[[The Queen Is Dead]]'' (1986)
* [[Morrissey]] – lead vocals, percussion (1982–1987)
*''[[Strangeways, Here We Come]]'' (1987)
* [[Johnny Marr]] – guitars, piano, keyboards, harmonica (1982–1987)
* [[Andy Rourke]] – bass (1982–1986, 1986–1987; died 2023)
* [[Mike Joyce (musician)|Mike Joyce]] – drums, percussion (1982–1987)
{{col-2}}
'''Other members'''
* Steven Pomfret – guitars (1982)
* Dale Hibbert – bass (1982)
* James Maker – dancing, maracas, backing vocals (1982–1983)
* [[Craig Gannon]] – guitars, bass (1986)
* Ivor Perry – guitars (1987)
'''Session and touring members'''
* [[Simon Wolstencroft]] – drums (1982)
* [[Guy Pratt]] – bass (1986)
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==Notes==
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== Discography ==
{{Main|The Smiths discography|List of songs recorded by the Smiths}}
* ''[[The Smiths (album)|The Smiths]]'' (1984)
* ''[[Meat Is Murder]]'' (1985)
* ''[[The Queen Is Dead]]'' (1986)
* ''[[Strangeways, Here We Come]]'' (1987)


==References==
==References==
===Footnotes===
* [[David Bret]]. ''Morrissey: Scandal and Passion'' (Robson 2004; ISBN 1-86105-787-3; covers both Smiths and Morrissey's solo career)
{{Reflist}}
* [[Simon Goddard]]. ''[[The Smiths: Songs That Saved Your Life]]'' (Reynolds and Hearn 2002, 2004²; ISBN 1-903111-47-1, ISBN 1-905287-14-3)

* Mick Middles. ''The Smiths: The Complete Story'' (Omnibus 1985, 1988²)
===Sources===
* [[Johnny Rogan]]. ''Morrissey and Marr: The Severed Alliance'' (Omnibus 1992, 1993²; ISBN 0-7119-3000-7)
* {{cite book |last=Bret |first=David |author-link=David Bret |title=Morrissey: Scandal and Passion |year=2004 |publisher=Robson |isbn=1-86105-787-3}} covers both Smiths and Morrissey's solo career)
* [[Mark Simpson]]{{disambiguation needed|date=October 2012}}. '' Saint Morrissey'' (SAF, 2003, 2006, 978-0946719754)
* {{cite book |last=Goddard |first=Simon |author-link=Simon Goddard |title=[[The Smiths: Songs That Saved Your Life]] |publisher=Reynolds and Hearn |year=2006 |orig-year=2002 |isbn=1-905287-14-3}}
* [[Marc Spitz]]. ''[[How Soon Is Never]]'' ([[Three Rivers Press]], 2003; ISBN 978-0-609-81040-8)
* {{cite book |last=Goddard |first=Simon |title=Mozipedia: The Encyclopedia of Morrissey and The Smiths |year=2009 |publisher=Ebury Press |isbn=978-0091927103}}
* {{cite book |last=Marr |first=Johnny |author-link=Johnny Marr |date=2016 |title=Set The Boy Free: The Autobiography |location=London |publisher=Century |isbn=978-1-780-89432-4}}
* Middles, Mick. ''The Smiths: The Complete Story'' (Omnibus 1985, 1988<sup>2</sup>)
* {{cite book |last=Rogan |first=Johnny |author-link=Johnny Rogan |title=Morrissey and Marr: The Severed Alliance |publisher=Omnibus |orig-date=1992 |date=1993 |isbn=0-7119-3000-7}}
* {{cite book |last=Simpson |first=Mark |author-link=Mark Simpson (journalist) |title=Saint Morrissey |year=2004 |orig-year=2003 |isbn=978-0-946719-75-4}}
* [[Marc Spitz]]. ''How Soon Is Never'' ([[Three Rivers Press]], 2003; {{ISBN|978-0-609-81040-8}})
* {{cite journal |last=Stringer |first=Julian |title=The Smiths: Repressed (But Remarkably Dressed) |journal=Popular Music |volume=11 |number=1 |pages=15–26 |year=1992 |doi= 10.1017/s0261143000004815|jstor=853224|s2cid=194017413 }}
* {{cite magazine |first=Andrew |last=Warnes |title=Black, White and Blue: The Racial Antagonism of the Smiths' Record Sleeves |year=2008 |magazine=Popular Music |volume=27 |issue=1 |pages=135–149 |jstor=40212448 |url=http://www.jstor.org/stable/40212448 |issn=}}
* {{cite encyclopedia |last=Woods |first=Paul A. |contribution=Morrissey Needs No Introduction |title=Morrissey in Conversation: The Essential Interviews |others=Paul A. Woods (ed.) |location=London |publisher=Plexus |year=2007 |pages=5–8 |isbn=978-0-85965-394-7}}


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* [http://www.plunderingdesire.com Plundering Desire&nbsp;– articles & interviews, release reviews, live reviews, news items]
* [http://www.vulgarpicture.com Vulgar Picture&nbsp;– visual Smiths and Morrissey discography]


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*Fletcher, Tony. ''A Light That Never Goes Out: The Enduring Saga of the Smiths''. [[Crown Archetype]], 4 December 2012 p.&nbsp;722 ISBN 0-307-71595-7
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The Smiths
The Smiths in 1984. From left to right: Andy Rourke, Morrissey, Johnny Marr and Mike Joyce.
The Smiths in 1984. From left to right: Andy Rourke, Morrissey, Johnny Marr and Mike Joyce.
Background information
OriginManchester, England
Genres
Discography
Years active1982–1987
Labels
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The Smiths were an English rock band formed in Manchester in 1982, composed of Morrissey (vocals), Johnny Marr (guitar), Andy Rourke (bass) and Mike Joyce (drums). Morrissey and Marr formed the band’s songwriting partnership. The Smiths are regarded as one of the most important acts to emerge from 1980s British independent music.

The Smiths signed to the independent label Rough Trade Records in 1983 and released their debut album, The Smiths, in 1984. Their focus on a guitar, bass and drum sound, fusing 1960s rock and post-punk, was a rejection of the synth-pop sound predominant at the time. Several Smiths singles reached the top 20 of the UK Singles Chart, and all their studio albums reached the top five of the UK Albums Chart, including the number-one album Meat Is Murder (1985).

The band achieved mainstream success in Europe with The Queen Is Dead (1986) and Strangeways, Here We Come (1987), which both entered the top 20 of the European Albums Chart.[6] In 1986, the band briefly became a five-piece with the addition of guitarist Craig Gannon.

Internal tensions led to the Smiths' breakup in 1987, followed by public lawsuits over royalties. The members each said that the band would never reunite and refused all offers to do so. Rourke died in 2023.

History

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1982: Formation and early performances

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In May 1982, Johnny Marr and his friend Steve Pomfret went to the home of Steven Morrissey in Stretford to invite him to form a band.[7] Marr and Morrissey had met at a Patti Smith gig at Manchester's Apollo Theatre on 31 August 1978, when Marr was 14 and Morrissey was 19.[7] They bonded through their love of poetry and literature.[8] A fan of the New York Dolls, Marr had been impressed that Morrissey had written a book on the band and was inspired to turn up on his doorstep following the example of Jerry Leiber, who had formed his working partnership with Mike Stoller after turning up at Stoller's door.[9] According to Morrissey: "We got on absolutely famously. We were very similar in drive."[10] The two found that they were fans of many of the same bands.[11] When Marr looked through Morrissey's singles collection, he found the Monochrome Set, a band they both admired.[12] The next day, Morrissey phoned Marr to confirm that he would be interested in forming a band with him.[11]

A few days later, Morrissey and Marr held their first rehearsal in Marr's rented attic room in Bowdon. Morrissey provided the lyrics for "Don't Blow Your Own Horn", the first song that they worked on; however, they decided against retaining the song, with Marr commenting that "neither of us liked it very much".[11] The next song that they worked on was "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle", which again was based on lyrics produced by Morrissey. Marr based the tempo on the Patti Smith song "Kimberly", and they recorded it on Marr's TEAC four-track cassette recorder. The third track that the duo worked on was "Suffer Little Children".[13] Alongside these original compositions, Morrissey suggested that the band produce a cover of "I Want a Boy for My Birthday", a song by the 1960s American girl band the Cookies; although he had never heard of the song before, Marr agreed, enjoying the subversive element of having a male vocalist sing it, and the song was recorded on his TEAC machine.[14]

"It's still really clear. It was a sunny day, about one o'clock. There was no advance phone call or anything. I just knocked and he opened the door. As soon as the door opened, Pommy [Pomfret] took two very firm steps back. Which is one of the things that got me to talk so fast, it was just plain exuberance."

— Marr, on arriving at Morrissey's door[11]

By late 1982, Morrissey had chosen the band name the Smiths.[15] He said later that "it was the most ordinary name and I thought it was time that the ordinary folk of the world showed their faces".[16] Around the time of the band's formation, Morrissey decided that he would be publicly known only by his surname,[17] with Marr referring to him as "Mozzer" or "Moz".[18] In 1983, he forbade those around him from using the name "Steven", which he despised.[18]

After remaining with the band for several rehearsals, Pomfret departed acrimoniously.[19] He was replaced by the bass player Dale Hibbert, who worked at Manchester's Decibel Studios, where Marr had met him while recording Freak Party's demo.[16] Through Hibbert, the Smiths recorded their first demo at Decibel one night in August 1982.[20] Aided by drummer Simon Wolstencroft, whom Marr had worked with in Freak Party, the band recorded both "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" and "Suffer Little Children".[21] Wolstencroft was not interested in joining the band, so following auditions Mike Joyce joined; he later revealed that he was under the influence of magic mushrooms during his audition.[22] Meanwhile, Morrissey took the demo recording to Factory Records, but Factory's Tony Wilson was not interested.[23]

In October 1982, the Smiths gave their first public performance as a support act for Blue Rondo à la Turk during a student music and fashion show, "An Evening of Pure Pleasure", at Manchester's Ritz.[24] During the performance, they played both their own compositions and "I Want a Boy for My Birthday".[25] Morrissey had organised the gig's aesthetic; the band came onstage to Klaus Nomi's version of Henry Purcell's "The Cold Song" playing through the venue's sound system before his friend James Maker stepped onstage to introduce the band.[26] Maker remained onstage during the performance, relating that "I was given a pair of maracas – an optional extra – and carte blanche. There were no instructions – I think it was generally accepted I would improvise... I was there to drink red wine, make extraneous hand gestures and keep well within the tight, chalked circle that Morrissey had drawn around me."[27] Hibbert was allegedly unhappy with what he perceived as the band's "gay" aesthetic; in turn, Morrissey and Marr were unhappy with his bass playing, so he was replaced by Marr's old schoolfriend Andy Rourke.[28] Hibbert denies that he objected to the band being perceived as gay, and said he was not sure why he was asked to leave.[29]

In December 1982, the Smiths recorded their second demo, at the Drone Studios in Chorlton-cum-Hardy; the tracks recorded were "What Difference Does It Make?", "Handsome Devil" and "Miserable Lie".[30] This was used as their audition tape for the record company EMI, who turned the band down.[31] The band continued to practice, this time at the upstairs of the Portland Street Crazy Face Clothing company, a space secured by their new manager Joe Moss.[32] By Christmas, they had created four new songs: "These Things Take Time", "What Do You See in Him?", "Jeane" and "A Matter of Opinion", the last of which they soon scrapped.[33] Their next gig was Manchester's Manhattan in late January 1983, and although Maker would again appear as a go-go dancer, this was the last time that he did so.[34] In early February, they performed their third gig, at the Haçienda.[35]

1983–1984: Rough Trade, "Hand in Glove", and first album

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Marr and Rourke visited London to hand a cassette of their recordings to Geoff Travis of the independent record label Rough Trade Records.[36] Travis agreed to cut their song "Hand in Glove" as a single.[37] For the cover, Morrissey insisted on a homoerotic photograph by Jim French which he had found in Margaret Walters' The Nude Male.[37] The single was released in May 1983,[38] and sold well for the next 18 months, but did not chart in the UK Top 40.[39] Among the audience at the Smiths' second London concert, at the University of London Union, was John Walters, the producer of John Peel's BBC Radio 1 show: he invited the band to record a session for the programme. Peel said: "You couldn't immediately tell what records they'd been listening to. That's fairly unusual, very rare indeed... It was that aspect of the Smiths that I found most impressive."[39] Following this radio exposure, the Smiths gained their first interviews, in the music magazines NME and Sounds.[39]

Travis travelled to Manchester to meet the band at their Crazy Face rehearsal space and sign a record contract with Rough Trade.[40] Morrissey and Marr signed it on behalf of the band, and there was no discussion of how earnings would be divided.[41] Travis brought in Troy Tate of the Teardrop Explodes, and under his supervision the band recorded their first album, at the Elephant Studios in Wapping, East London.[42] Rough Trade were unhappy with the album and Tate's production, insisting the band rerecord it with a new producer, John Porter.[43] The singles "This Charming Man" and "What Difference Does It Make?" reached numbers 25 and 12 on the UK Singles Chart.[44] Aided by praise from the music press and a series of studio sessions for Peel and David Jensen at BBC Radio 1, the Smiths began to build a dedicated fanbase.[citation needed]

The Smiths generated controversy when Garry Bushell of The Sun tabloid alleged their B-side "Handsome Devil" was an endorsement of paedophilia.[45] The band denied this, with Morrissey stating the song "has nothing to do with children, and certainly nothing to do with child-molesting".[46]

The Smiths in 1984

In February 1984, the Smiths released their debut album, The Smiths, which reached number two on the UK Albums Chart.[47] "Reel Around the Fountain" and "The Hand That Rocks the Cradle" met with controversy, with some tabloid newspapers alleging the songs were suggestive of paedophilia, a claim strongly denied by the group.[48] In March 1984, the Smiths performed on Channel 4 music program The Tube.[49]

The album was followed the same year by the non-album singles "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" and "William, It Was Really Nothing", which featured "How Soon Is Now?" on its B-side. Securing the band's first top ten placing, "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" was also significant for marking the beginning of engineer and producer Stephen Street's long-term working relationship with the band.[50]

More controversy followed when "Suffer Little Children", the B-side to "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now", touched on the theme of the Moors murders. This caused an uproar after the grandfather of one of the murdered children heard the song on a pub jukebox and felt the band was trying to commercialise the murders. After meeting with Morrissey, he accepted that the song was a sincere exploration of the impact of the murders. Morrissey subsequently established a friendship with Ann West, the mother of victim Lesley Ann Downey, who is mentioned by name in the song.[51]

The year ended with the release of the compilation album Hatful of Hollow. This collected singles, B-sides and tracks recorded throughout the previous year for the Peel and Jensen radio shows.

1985–1986: Meat Is Murder and The Queen Is Dead

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Early in 1985, the Smiths released their second studio album, Meat Is Murder. It was more strident and political than its predecessor, including the pro-vegetarian title track (Morrissey forbade the rest of the group from being photographed eating meat), the light-hearted republicanism of "Nowhere Fast", and the anti-corporal punishment "The Headmaster Ritual" and "Barbarism Begins at Home". The band had also grown more diverse musically, with Marr adding rockabilly riffs to "Rusholme Ruffians" and Rourke playing a funk bass solo on "Barbarism Begins at Home". The album was preceded by the re-release of the B-side "How Soon Is Now?" as a single, and although that song was not on the original LP, it has been added to subsequent releases. Meat Is Murder was the band's only album (barring compilations) to reach number one in the UK charts.[47]

Morrissey brought a political stance to many of his interviews, courting further controversy. Among his targets were the Thatcher government, the British monarchy and the famine relief project Band Aid. Morrissey famously quipped of the last, "One can have great concern for the people of Ethiopia, but it's another thing to inflict daily torture on the people of England"[52] ("torture" being a reference to the music that resulted from the project). The subsequent single-only release "Shakespeare's Sister" reached number 26 on the UK Singles Chart, although the only single taken from the album, "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore", was less successful, barely making the top 50.[53] In 1985, the Smiths completed lengthy tours of the UK and the US.[54]

The Smiths' third studio album, The Queen Is Dead, was released in June 1986, following its singles "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side" and "Bigmouth Strikes Again". Marr added ersatz strings with keyboards on several tracks such as "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" and "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side".[55] The Queen Is Dead reached number two in the UK charts.[47]

A legal dispute with Rough Trade had delayed the album by almost seven months (it had been completed in November 1985), and Marr was beginning to feel the stress of the band's exhausting touring and recording schedule. He later told NME, "'Worse for wear' wasn't the half of it: I was extremely ill. By the time the tour actually finished it was all getting a little bit ... dangerous. I was just drinking more than I could handle."[56] Rourke was fired from the band in early 1986 due to his use of heroin. He allegedly received notice of his dismissal via a Post-it Note stuck to the windscreen of his car. It read, "Andy – you have left the Smiths. Goodbye and good luck, Morrissey."[57] Morrissey denied this.

Rourke was replaced on bass by Craig Gannon (formerly a member of Scottish new wave band Aztec Camera), but was then reinstated two weeks later. Gannon stayed in the band, switching to rhythm guitar. This five-piece recorded the singles "Panic" and "Ask" (the latter with Kirsty MacColl on backing vocals) which reached numbers 11 and 14 respectively on the UK Singles Chart,[53] and toured the UK.

An arrest on drug possession charges almost led to Rourke being replaced by Guy Pratt for the band's North American tour later that year. Rourke's work visa came through just before departure. While the shows were successful, heavy drinking and drug use by crew and band members other than Morrissey took a toll on the group,[citation needed] along with ineffective management and lingering disputes with Rough Trade (whom the band was seriously considering leaving for EMI)[58] and their American label Sire Records (who Morrissey felt did not do enough to promote the Smiths).[54][59] After a date in St. Petersburg, Florida, he and Marr cancelled the remaining four shows, including a grand finale at New York City's Radio City Music Hall. After the following UK tour ended in October 1986, Gannon left the band. During his time with the Smiths, Gannon played on seven studio tracks ("Panic" and "Ask", their B-sides "The Draize Train" and "Golden Lights", as well as "Half a Person" and "London", both of which were released as B-sides the following year, and "You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby", which first appeared on the compilation album The World Won't Listen also the following year).[60] On 12 December 1986 the band performed their last concert, an anti-apartheid benefit at Brixton Academy, London.[61]

As they had been severed from the contract with Rough Trade records they sought a new deal with a major label. Marr told NME in early 1987, "Every single label came to see us. It was small-talk, bribes, the whole number. I really enjoyed it." The band signed with EMI, which drew criticism from their fanbase and elements of the music press.[56]

"The Smiths brought realism to their romance, and tempered their angst with the lightest of touches. The times were personified in their frontman: rejecting all taints of rock n' roll machismo, he played up the social awkwardness of the misfit and the outsider, his gently haunting vocals whooping suddenly upward into a falsetto, clothed in outsize women's shirts, sporting National Health specs or a huge Johnny Ray-style hearing aid. This charming young man was, in the vernacular of the time, the very antithesis of a 'rockist' – always knowingly closer to the gentle ironicist Alan Bennett, or self-lacerating diarist Kenneth Williams, than a licentious Mick Jagger or a drugged-out Jim Morrison."

— Paul A. Woods, 2007[62]

1987: Strangeways, Here We Come and breakup

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In early 1987, "Shoplifters of the World Unite" reached number 12 on the UK Singles Chart.[53] It was followed by a second compilation album, The World Won't Listen. The title was Morrissey's comment on his frustration with the band's lack of mainstream recognition; it reached number two in the charts.[47] This was followed by the single "Sheila Take a Bow", the band's second (and last during the band's lifetime) UK top-10 hit.[53] Another compilation album, Louder Than Bombs, was released in the US in March 1987, with a UK release following two months later. The Smiths' fourth studio album, Strangeways, Here We Come, opened with a piano introduction as Marr wanted to get away from the Smiths' sound.[63] Marr also played keyboards for the other tracks.[63] The first song, "A Rush and a Push and the Land Is Ours", features no guitar.[64]

Despite their continued success, tensions emerged within the band. Marr was exhausted and took a break in June 1987, which he felt was negatively perceived by his bandmates. In July, he left the group because he erroneously believed an NME article titled "Smiths to Split" was planted by Morrissey.[65] The article, written by Danny Kelly, alleged that Morrissey disliked Marr working with other musicians and that Marr and Morrissey's personal relationship had reached a breaking point. Marr contacted NME to explain that he had not left the band due to personal tensions but because he wanted wider musical scope.[66] The former Easterhouse guitarist Ivor Perry was brought in to replace Marr.[67] The band recorded material with him which was never completed, including an early version of "Bengali in Platforms", later released on Morrissey's debut solo album, Viva Hate (1988).[68] Perry was uncomfortable, saying "it was like they wanted another Johnny Marr"; according to Perry, the sessions ended with Morrissey running out of the studio.[69]

By the time Strangeways, Here We Come was released in September, the Smiths had split. The breakdown has been primarily attributed to Morrissey's irritation with Marr's work with other artists and Marr's frustration with Morrissey's musical inflexibility. Marr particularly hated Morrissey's obsession with covering 1960s pop artists such as Twinkle and Cilla Black, saying in 1992: "That was the last straw, really. I didn't form a group to perform Cilla Black songs."[70] In a 1989 interview, Morrissey cited the lack of a managerial figure and business problems as reasons for the split.[71]

Strangeways, Here We Come reached number two in the UK in October 1987,[47] and was the Smiths' most successful album in the US, reaching number 55 on the Billboard 200.[72] Morrissey and Marr name it as their favourite Smiths album.[73] Two further singles from Strangeways were released with live, session and demo tracks as B-sides. The following year, the live album Rank, recorded in 1986 when Craig Gannon was still in the band, reached number 2 in the UK and entered in the European 100 Albums chart at number 9.[74]

1989: Royalties dispute

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Morrissey and Marr each took 40% of the Smiths' recording and performance royalties, allowing 10 per cent each to Joyce and Rourke. Joyce's barrister later argued in court, that Joyce and Rourke were treated as session musicians, "as readily replaceable as the parts in a lawnmower".[75] In March 1989, Joyce and Rourke started legal proceedings against Morrissey and Marr. They argued that they were equal partners in the Smiths and were each entitled to a 25 per cent share of the band's profits on all activities other than songwriting and publishing. Rourke, who was in debt, settled quickly for a lump sum of £83,000 (equivalent to £260,824 in 2023) and 10 per cent of royalties, renouncing all further claims.[76]

Joyce continued with the action, which reached the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division) in December 1996. Morrissey and Marr had accepted the previous year that Joyce and Rourke were partners, but whether Joyce was entitled to a quarter of profits "arising out of the activities (other than songwriting or publishing)" of the Smiths remained contentious.[77] Joyce's barrister, Nigel Davis, said that Joyce did not realise he was receiving only 10% of the profits until after the band split.[78]

Morrissey and Marr – who were represented separately at the trial[77] – insisted that the royalty split had been explained to Rourke and Joyce, though they were no longer sure when. Additionally, this agreement was only discussed verbally and it was never legally written on paper, something Marr came to regret. He said in 2004 that although he had no regrets in breaking up the Smiths, he wished the band had signed legal documents "from the word go" to avoid the later financial disagreements.[79] As Marr's counsel, Robert Englehart, said, "Some 13 years on it is extremely difficult to pinpoint the moment when the 40:40:10:10 profit split came into being ... But Morrissey and Marr acted throughout on the basis that they would be getting 40 percent each of the net profits from the Smiths' earnings."[80]

After a seven-day hearing, Judge Weeks found in favour of Joyce, ordering that he receive around £1 million in back-royalties and 25 per cent henceforth. The judge also gave character assessments; Joyce and Rourke (who gave evidence in Joyce's support) impressed him as straightforward and honest, whereas Morrissey "appeared devious, truculent and unreliable where his own interests were at stake" and Marr was "willing to embroider his evidence to a point where he became less credible".[77] The judge also said that Marr was "probably the more intelligent of the four", and that Rourke and Joyce were "unintellectual".[81] Morrissey said in an interview eight months later:

The court case was a potted history of the life of the Smiths. Mike, talking constantly and saying nothing. Andy, unable to remember his own name. Johnny, trying to please everyone and consequently pleasing no one. And Morrissey under the scorching spotlight in the dock being drilled. "How dare you be successful?" "How dare you move on?" To me, the Smiths were a beautiful thing and Johnny left it, and Mike has destroyed it.[82]

Asked some time before the trial whether he thought Rourke and Joyce had been short-changed, Morrissey responded: "They were lucky. If they'd had another singer they'd never have got further than Salford Shopping Centre."[83][84][85] Morrissey's counsel, Ian Mill, conceded that Morrissey's attitude "betrayed a degree of arrogance".[86] Morrissey appealed against the verdict; the appeal was heard by the Court of Appeal (Civil Division) in November 1998 and dismissed.[77] Inspired by Joyce's success, Rourke sought legal advice on his own options.[87] He was declared bankrupt in 1999.[88]

In November 2005, Joyce told Marc Riley on BBC Radio 6 Music that financial hardship had reduced him to selling rare Smiths recordings on eBay. By way of illustration, Riley played part of an unfinished instrumental known as the "Click Track" (or "Cowbell Track").[89] Morrissey responded with a statement three days later revealing that Joyce had received £215,000 each from Marr and Morrissey in 1997, along with Marr's final backpayment of £260,000 in 2001. Morrissey failed to make his final payment because, he said, he was overseas in 2001 and did not receive the paperwork. Joyce obtained a default judgement against Morrissey, revised his outstanding claim to £688,000 and secured orders garnishing much of his income. This was a source of grievance to Morrissey, who estimated that Joyce had cost him at least £1,515,000 in recovered royalties and legal fees up to 30 November 2005.[90]

Solo careers

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Morrissey performing at SXSW in Austin, Texas in 2006

Following the group's split, Morrissey began work on a solo recording, collaborating with producer Stephen Street and fellow Mancunian Vini Reilly, guitarist for the Durutti Column. The resulting album, Viva Hate (a reference to the end of the Smiths), was released in March 1988, reaching number one in the UK charts. In the following years, he invited several singers for backing vocals on several songs such as Suggs of Madness on "Piccadilly Palare" and Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders on "My Love Life". He recorded a duet with Siouxsie Sioux of Siouxsie and the Banshees, "Interlude" which was released under the banner of both artists. He also collaborated with arranger Ennio Morricone on "Dear God Please Help Me". At the beginning of the 90s, he enjoyed a new popularity in North America, following his first tour as Morrissey. Morrissey continues to perform and record as a solo artist and had released 13 studio albums as of 2020.

Marr returned in 1989 with New Order's Bernard Sumner and Pet Shop Boys' Neil Tennant in the supergroup Electronic. Electronic released three albums over the next decade. Marr was also a member of the The, recording two albums with them between 1989 and 1993. He has worked as a session musician and writing collaborator with artists including the Pretenders, Bryan Ferry, Pet Shop Boys, Billy Bragg, Black Grape, Talking Heads, Modest Mouse, Crowded House and Beck.

Johnny Marr performing as part of the group the Cribs at the 9:30 Club in Washington, DC, in 2010

In 2000, he started another band, Johnny Marr + the Healers, which released only one album, Boomslang (2003), to moderate success, then split up shortly afterwards. He later worked as a guest musician on the Oasis album Heathen Chemistry (2002). In 2006, he began work with Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock on songs that eventually featured on the band's 2007 release, We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank. Modest Mouse subsequently announced that Marr was a fully fledged member and the reformed line-up toured extensively in 2006–07. In January 2008, it was reported that Marr had taken part in a week-long songwriting session at Moolah Rouge recording studio in Stockport with Wakefield indie group the Cribs.[48] Marr's association with the band lasted three years and included an appearance on its fourth album, Ignore the Ignorant (2009). His departure was announced in April 2011.[91] He recorded three solo albums, The Messenger (2013), Playland (2014) and Call the Comet (2018). In addition to his activities as a musician and songwriter, Marr produced Marion's second album, The Program (1998) and Haven's debut album, Between the Senses (2002).[92][93]

Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce continued to work together. They toured with Sinéad O'Connor in the first half of 1988; Rourke also appeared on her 1990 album I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got. Still in 1988, they were recruited (with Craig Gannon) to the Adult Net, but left the band soon afterwards. In 1988 and 1989, they recorded singles with Morrissey. In 1998, they toured and recorded with Aziz Ibrahim (the Stone Roses). In 2001 they formed Specter with Jason Specter and others. The band played in the United Kingdom and the United States, but did not prosper.[94] In the same year they recorded demos with Paul Arthurs (Oasis), Aziz Ibrahim and Rowetta Idah (Happy Mondays) under the name Moondog One, but the project went no further. Towards the end of 2001, they played together in the veteran Manchester band Jeep.[95] In 2005, they played with Vinny Peculiar, recording the single "Two Fat Lovers" (Joyce also appeared on the 2006 album The Fall and Rise of Vinny Peculiar).[96] In 2007 they released the documentary DVD Inside the Smiths, a memoir of their time with the band, notable for the absence of Marr, Morrissey and their music.

Joyce recorded with Suede (1990); toured and recorded with Buzzcocks (1990–91); toured with Julian Cope (1992); toured with John Lydon and Public Image Ltd (1992); recorded with P.P. Arnold (1995); toured and recorded with Pete Wylie (1996–98); toured with Vinny Peculiar and Paul Arthurs (2007); and toured with Autokat (2008–09).[97] He presented the Alternative Therapy radio show on Revolution 96.2 FM until the station changed format in 2008, later reviving it on Manchester Radio Online and Tin Can Media.[98] He hosts The Coalition Chart Show on East Village Radio, which streams from New York.[99]

Rourke played and recorded with the Pretenders (featuring on Last of the Independents, 1994); Badly Drawn Boy (with whom he played for two years); Proud Mary (featuring on Love and Light, 2004); and Ian Brown (featuring on The World Is Yours, 2007). In 2007, he formed Freebass with fellow bassists Peter Hook (New Order and Joy Division) and Mani (the Stone Roses and Primal Scream).[100] Rourke co-founded the Manchester v Cancer concert series, later known as Versus Cancer, to raise money for cancer research.[citation needed] He concentrated on his radio career, beginning with a Saturday-evening show on XFM Manchester. He was a regular on East Village Radio, where his colleagues include Joyce.[101] Rourke relocated to New York in early 2009.[102] There, he formed Jetlag, a "DJ and audio production outfit", with Olé Koretsky.[103] In April 2014, the Cranberries vocalist Dolores O'Riordan joined the group and they changed their name to D.A.R.K.[104]

Reunion speculation

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Marr and Morrissey have repeatedly said that they will not reunite the band. In 2006, Morrissey declared, "I would rather eat my own testicles than reform the Smiths, and that's saying something for a vegetarian."[105] When asked why in another interview the same year, he responded, "I feel as if I've worked very hard since the demise of the Smiths and the others haven't, so why hand them attention that they haven't earned? We are not friends, we don't see each other. Why on earth would we be on a stage together?"[106] In a February 2009 interview on BBC Radio 2, he said, "People always ask me about reunions and I can't imagine why [...] the past seems like a distant place, and I'm pleased with that."[107] In 2002, Joyce said he was not interested in reforming as he felt the Smiths had run its course.[108]

In November 2004, VH1 screened a Backstage Pass Special episode of Bands Reunited showing host Aamer Haleem trying and failing to corner Morrissey before a show at the Apollo Theater.[109] In March 2006, Morrissey said the Smiths had declined a $5 million offer to perform at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, saying, "Money doesn't come into it ... It was a fantastic journey. And then it ended. I didn't feel we should have ended. I wanted to continue. [Marr] wanted to end it. And that was that."[110]

In August 2007, it was widely reported that Morrissey had that summer declined an offer of $75 million – nearly £40 million at the time – from a "consortium of promoters" to reunite with Marr for a fifty-date world tour under the Smiths' name in 2008 and 2009. NME gave Morrissey as its source for the story.[111] Rolling Stone cited his publicist.[112] The offer was also reported at true-to-you.net, an unofficial fan site tacitly supported by Morrissey.[113] It was later described as a hoax, although it is unclear who was hoaxing whom.[114] In October, Marr said on BBC Radio 5 Live: "Stranger things have happened so, you know, who knows? ... It's no biggie. Maybe we will in 10 or 15 years' time when we all need to for whatever reasons, but right now Morrissey is doing his thing and I'm doing mine."[115]

In 2008, Marr resumed contact with Morrissey and Rourke while remastering the band's catalogue.[81] That September, Morrissey and Marr met in Manchester and discussed the possibility of reforming the band.[81] The two kept in contact over the next four days and decided to exclude Joyce from any prospective reunion and to wait until after Marr completed his commitments to the Cribs.[81] Communication between the two abruptly ended while Marr was touring in Mexico with the Cribs and the topic of a reunion was never brought up again.[81] Marr said that he did not hear from Morrissey again until a brief email correspondence in December 2010.[81] In June 2009, Marr told an interviewer on London's XFM, "I think we were offered 50 million dollars for three ... possibly five shows." He said that the chances of a reunion were "nothing to do with money" and that the reasons were "really abstract".[116]

In January 2006, Marr and the Healers played at Rourke's Manchester v Cancer benefit concert, where Marr performed "How Soon Is Now?" with Rourke.[117] Marr and Rourke also performed "How Soon Is Now?" at the Lollapallooza Brazil festival in 2014.[118] Rourke died of pancreatic cancer on 19 May 2023, aged 59.[100]

In August 2024, Morrissey said in a post on his website, Morrissey Central, that he and Marr had received a "lucrative offer" to tour as the Smiths in 2025.[119] The singer claimed that he accepted the invitation, but that Marr did not respond. Marr soon after posted a picture of Reform UK leader Nigel Farage to rebuke calls to reunite in the aftermath of Oasis's reunion. Marr previously said in 2016 that Morrissey's politics aligned with Farage's, joking that any potential Smiths reunion would feature the politician as their replacement guitarist.[120] Weeks later, on Marr's official Instagram, Marr's management issued an official statement in response to Morrissey's claims that Marr ignored the offer: "As for the offer to tour, I didn't ignore the offer - I said no."[121] Marr's statement also clarified other claims made by Morrissey's team on Morrissey's website such as that Marr had filed for 100% ownership of the Smiths' intellectual property and trademark rights without having consulted with Morrissey despite the fact that "Morrissey alone created the musical unit name "The Smiths' in May 1982".[122] In Marr's statement, it was clarified that Marr discovered that the band did not own the trademark, and in an effort to protect the trademark from a third party attempt made in 2018 to use the band's name, Marr registered the trademark solely under his name after a failure to receive a response from Morrissey and his representatives. In January 2024, Marr signed an agreement to share ownership of the name with Morrissey, an agreement Morrissey has yet to follow up on. Marr further clarified that the efforts to take the trademark were not to tour under the Smiths' name with a singer of Marr's choice (contrary to the claims made by Morrissey's team), but rather simply to protect the band's name and use of the name.[121]

Musical style

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Morrissey and Marr dictated the musical direction of the Smiths. Marr said in 1990 that it "was a 50/50 thing between Morrissey and me. We were completely in sync about which way we should go for each record".[123] The Smiths' "non-rhythm-and-blues, whiter-than-white fusion of 1960s rock and post-punk was a repudiation of contemporary dance pop",[5] and the band purposely rejected synthesisers and dance music.[65] From their second album Meat Is Murder, Marr embellished their songs with keyboards.[64]

Marr's jangly guitar-playing was influenced by James Honeyman-Scott of the Pretenders,[124] and Bert Jansch of Pentangle.[125] Marr often used a capo to tune his guitar up a full step to F-sharp to accommodate Morrissey's vocal range and also used open tunings. Citing producer Phil Spector as an influence, Marr said, "I like the idea of records, even those with plenty of space, that sound 'symphonic'. I like the idea of all the players merging into one atmosphere".[123] Marr's other favourite guitarists are James Williamson of the Stooges, Rory Gallagher, Pete Townshend of the Who, Jimi Hendrix, Marc Bolan of T. Rex, Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones, and John McGeoch of Magazine and Siouxsie and the Banshees.[126] In a 2007 interview for the BBC, Marr said that his goal was to "pare down" his style and avoid rock guitar clichés.[127] Marr used "arpeggiated chords, open-string licks and unusual progressions" and his style "combined the chime of '60s jangle-pop bands with the pared-down musicality of players like Nile Rodgers and Keith Richards."[128] Marr also used an overdrive pedal in "London".[129]

Morrissey's role was to create vocal melodies and lyrics.[130] Morrissey's songwriting was influenced by punk rock and post-punk bands such as New York Dolls, the Cramps, the Specials and the Cult, along with 1960s girl groups and singers such as Dusty Springfield, Sandie Shaw, Marianne Faithfull and Timi Yuro. Morrissey's lyrics, while superficially depressing, were often full of mordant humour; John Peel remarked that the Smiths were one of the few bands capable of making him laugh out loud.[citation needed] Influenced by his childhood interest in the social realism of 1960s "kitchen sink" television plays, Morrissey wrote about ordinary people and their experiences with despair, rejection and death. While "songs such as 'Still Ill' sealed his role as spokesman for disaffected youth", Morrissey's "manic-depressive rants" and his "'woe-is-me' posture inspired some hostile critics to dismiss the Smiths as 'miserabilists.'"[5] Julian Stringer characterised the Smiths as "one of Britain's most overtly political groups",[131] while in his study of their work, Andrew Warnes termed them "the most anti-capitalist of bands".[132]

Imagery

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The group's cover artwork had a distinctive visual style and often featured images of film and pop stars, usually in duotone. Design was by Morrissey and Rough Trade art coordinator Jo Slee. The covers of singles rarely featured any text other than the band name and the band itself did not appear on the cover of any UK release. (Morrissey did, however, appear on an alternative cover for "What Difference Does It Make?", mimicking the pose of the original subject, actor Terence Stamp, after the latter objected to his picture being used.) The choice of cover subjects reflected Morrissey's interest in film stars (Stamp, Alain Delon, Jean Marais, Warhol protégé Joe Dallesandro, James Dean); figures from sixties British popular culture (Viv Nicholson, Pat Phoenix, Yootha Joyce, Shelagh Delaney); and anonymous images from old films and magazines.[133]

The Smiths dressed mainly in ordinary clothes – jeans and plain shirts – in keeping with the back-to-basics, guitar-and-drums style of the music. This contrasted with the exotic high-fashion image cultivated by New Romantic pop groups such as Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran and highlighted in magazines such as The Face and i-D. In 1986, when the Smiths performed on the British music programme The Old Grey Whistle Test, Morrissey wore a fake hearing-aid to support a hearing-impaired fan who was ashamed of using one,[134] and also frequently wore thick-rimmed NHS-style glasses. Morrissey also would often wave gladiolus flowers onstage.

As frontman of the Smiths, Morrissey subverted many of the norms that were associated with pop and rock music.[135] The band's aesthetic simplicity was a reaction to the excess personified by the New Romantics,[136] and while Morrissey adopted an androgynous appearance like the New Romantics or earlier glam rockers, his was far more subtle and understated.[137] According to one commentator, "he was bookish; he wore NHS spectacles and a hearing aid on stage; he was celibate. Worst of all, he was sincere", with his music being "so intoxicatingly melancholic, so dangerously thoughtful, so seductively funny that it lured its listeners... into a relationship with him and his music instead of the world."[138]

Legacy

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The Smiths have been widely influential. Ian Youngs of BBC News described them as "the band that inspired deeper devotion than any British group since the Beatles".[139] Marr's guitar playing "was a huge building block for more Manchester legends that followed the Smiths", including the Stone Roses, whose guitarist John Squire said Marr was an influence.[140] The Oasis songwriter and guitarist Noel Gallagher also cited the Smiths as an influence, especially Marr, saying that "when the Jam split, the Smiths started, and I totally went for them".[141] The Smiths were an early influence on Radiohead and inspired their 2001 single "Knives Out".[142][143] In 2001, Marr said Radiohead were the act that had "come closest to the genuine influence of the Smiths".[143]

Alex Turner of the English rock band Arctic Monkeys cited the Smiths as a formative influence.[144] The Canadian artist the Weeknd listed the Smiths as an inspiration during the making of his third studio album, Starboy.[145] The American singer-songwriter Jeff Buckley was a fan of the Smiths and Morrissey.[146] Buckley often covered Smiths songs such as "I Know it's Over" and "The Boy with the Thorn in His Side". Morrissey expressed admiration for Buckley's work, listing his album Grace as his 12th-favourite album in 2010.[147]

In Q, Simon Goddard argued in 2007 that the Smiths were "the one truly vital voice of the '80s" and "the most influential British guitar group of the decade". He continued: "As the first indie outsiders to achieve mainstream success on their own terms (their second album proper, 1985's Meat Is Murder, made Number 1 in the UK), they elevated rock's standard four-piece formula to new heights of magic and poetry. Their legacy can be traced down through the Stone Roses, Oasis and the Libertines to today's crop of artful young guitar bands."[148]

In Uncut, Simon Reynolds wrote: "Once upon a time, a band from the North came with a sound so fresh and vigorous it took the nation by storm. The sound was rock, but crucially it was pop, too: concise, punchy, melodic, shiny without being 'plastic'. The singer was a true original, delivering a blend of sensitivity and strength, defiance and tenderness, via a regionally inflected voice. The young man's lips spilled forth words that were realistic without being dour, full of sly humour and beautifully observed detail. Most recognised their debut album as a landmark, an instant classic."[149]

The "Britpop movement pre-empted by the Stone Roses and spearheaded by groups like Oasis, Suede and Blur drew heavily from Morrissey's portrayal of and nostalgia for a bleak urban England of the past."[150] Blur formed as a result of seeing the Smiths on The South Bank Show in 1987. Yet even while leading bands from the Britpop movement were influenced by the Smiths, they were at odds with the "basic anti-establishment philosophies of Morrissey and the Smiths", since Britpop "was an entirely commercial construct".[151] Mark Simpson suggested that "the whole point of Britpop was to airbrush Morrissey out of the picture ... Morrissey had to become an 'unperson' so that the Nineties and its centrally-planned and coordinated pop economy could happen."[152]

Teezo Touchdown included them in a Counter Culture playlist on Spotify. Rolling Stone included four Smiths albums on its 2012 list of the "500 Greatest Albums of All Time",[153] and included "William, It Was Really Nothing" and "How Soon Is Now?" on its 2004 list of the "500 Greatest Songs of All Time".[154] Morrissey is included in its 2010 list of the greatest singers.[155] In 2014 and 2015, the Smiths were nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.[156][157]

In 2021 and 2023, the band Blossoms and the singer Rick Astley performed several concerts of Smiths covers, including a performance at 2023 Glastonbury Festival. The Guardian gave the performances positive reviews, suggesting they offered fans a way to enjoy the Smiths without the "moral queasiness" of Morrissey, who had become a controversial figure in the preceding years.[158][159] Morrissey thanked Blossoms and Astley on his website, but Marr said the performances were "funny and horrible at the same time".[160]

Members

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Timeline

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Discography

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References

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Footnotes

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