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The result was keep. Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Ingold

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Delete - Appears to be self-written biography of living person. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article does need work to bring it up to scratch (I've started revising and only got to 2001 so far), but I think that John Ingold is notable as an author of interactive fiction. Many of his works have been nominated for XYZZY Awards, which are the most important awards in the field, and several have won or ranked highly in the Interactive Fiction Competition. He's discussed as an important contemporary author in Nick Montfort's book Twisty Little Passages, the most extensive academic study of IF, and his All Roads is one of three works treated in detail in Alf Seegert's article at doi:10.1386/jgvw.1.1.23_1. I've also found reviews at websites like Jay Is Games[1], Just Adventure[2] and GameSetWatch,[3] even if we ignore IF-specific websites like SPAG. EALacey (talk) 22:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This AFD page wasn't listed at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log when created, so I've added it to today's log. I'm also adding the usual header to this page. EALacey (talk) 22:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. —Mike moral ♪♫ 23:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. —Mike moral ♪♫ 23:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article might need a bit of attention but it should not be deleted. The author is a well-established, award-winning, multiply-cited name in the interactive fiction field and is definitely noteworthy enough as a person (and here as an article) for continued inclusion in Wikipedia. I'm saying this as a professor of literature who has an invested interested in Interactive Fiction as a general field, not just in this author specifically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.242.228 (talk) 14:47, 26 June 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, postdlf (talk) 22:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was  '''keep'''. [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 02:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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 '''Delete''' - Appears to be self-written biography of living person.    [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * '''Keep'''. The article does need work to bring it up to scratch (I've started revising and only got to 2001 so far), but I think that John Ingold is notable as an author of [[interactive fiction]]. Many of his works have been nominated for [[XYZZY Award]]s, which are the most important awards in the field, and several have won or ranked highly in the [[Interactive Fiction Competition]]. He's discussed as an important contemporary author in [[Nick Montfort]]'s book ''Twisty Little Passages'', the most extensive academic study of IF, and his ''All Roads'' is one of three works treated in detail in Alf Seegert's article at [[doi:10.1386/jgvw.1.1.23_1]]. I've also found reviews at websites like ''[[Jay Is Games]]''[http://jayisgames.com/tag/jingold], ''[[Just Adventure]]''[http://betax1.justadventure.com/reviews/Lovecraft/LovecraftCommonplace.shtm] and ''[[GameSetWatch]]'',[http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2009/12/column_homer_in_silicon_gaslig.php] even if we ignore IF-specific websites like [http://www.spagmag.org/ SPAG]. [[User:EALacey|EALacey]] ([[User talk:EALacey|talk]]) 22:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
+* '''Comment'''. This AFD page wasn't listed at [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log]] when created, so I've added it to today's log. I'm also adding the usual header to this page. [[User:EALacey|EALacey]] ([[User talk:EALacey|talk]]) 22:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Authors|list of Authors-related deletion discussions]]. —[[User:Mikemoral|<span style="color: green">Mike</span>]][[User talk:Mikemoral|<span style="color: #21421E">moral</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikemoral|<span style="color: #01796F">♪♫</span>]] 23:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</small>
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/England|list of England-related deletion discussions]]. —[[User:Mikemoral|<span style="color: green">Mike</span>]][[User talk:Mikemoral|<span style="color: #21421E">moral</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikemoral|<span style="color: #01796F">♪♫</span>]] 23:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</small>
+* '''Keep'''. The article might need a bit of attention but it should not be deleted. The author is a well-established, award-winning, multiply-cited name in the interactive fiction field and is definitely noteworthy enough as a person (and here as an article) for continued inclusion in Wikipedia. I'm saying this as a professor of literature who has an invested interested in Interactive Fiction as a general field, not just in this author specifically. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.186.242.228|67.186.242.228]] ([[User talk:67.186.242.228|talk]]) 14:47, 26 June 2013‎ (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->
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