Talk:Theodore Roosevelt

Naming of children in infobox

I have twice tried to re-add the name of the children of the subject of this article to the infobox of this article, but twice it has been reverted. This is contrary to the guidelines followed on most Wikipedia pages, including those for, as far as I know, every other US president. For example, Donald Trump's article mentions each of his children in the infobox on his article: Donald Jr, Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany, and Barron. I personally think that if one has children who have their own Wikipedia articles, said children should be mentioned by name in the “children” section of the infobox of their parent’s Wikipedia article. Velociraptor888 (talk) 18:51, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

There is no guideline requirement for inclusion - see WP:OTHERCONTENT. It would be redundant to |relatives=. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

In Template:infobox person/doc#Parameters, we see the following advice about the children parameter:

Typically the number of children (e.g., 3); only list names of independently notable or particularly relevant children. Names may be preceded by a number to show total children and avoid implying that named children are the only offspring. For multiple entries, use an inline list.

This does not require the names of the children, but it allows one to give the names of those that are indenpendently notable, as all six of Roosevelt's children are. I have argued in other contexts that one should be extremely careful about adding things to the infobox, per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE: The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance. It can be argued that the link given as the relatives parameter renders the names of the six children redundant, but it could also be argued that having the names right there makes it possible to identify them "at a glance". Bruce leverett (talk) 20:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Does that mean that I should re-add the children’s names to the infobox then? Velociraptor888 (talk) 21:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Not so fast. I was only trying to contribute to the discussion. I would certainly hope to hear from other editors. Bruce leverett (talk) 00:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2024

Change "retired" to "retire" 2603:7000:7A00:3AE3:8534:7253:F82B:E3EF (talk) 00:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Good catch. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2025

Change "It has been believed Roosevelt's naval ideas were derived from Mahan's book, but naval historian, Nicolaus Danby felt Roosevelt's ideas predated Mahan's book." to "While it is often believed that Theodore Roosevelt's naval ideas were derived from Mahan's work, naval historian Nicolaus Danby has argued that Roosevelt's ideas, as presented in The Naval War of 1812 (1882), predated Mahan's book. However, Mahan's theories later influenced Roosevelt's policies during his tenure as Assistant Secretary of the Navy and President." Mjonellepeter (talk) 04:48, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The existing source doesn't support your last statement. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 17:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)