Talk:Penis: Difference between revisions
==Why is there no image of a dog penis?== There should be. You might argue that there would be one on the dog penis article, but there wasnt, untill i re added it. This one would be fine here - thumb|The penis of a dog - and woul |
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| title = Wikipedia’s penis and vagina pages: Their colorful history and popular present. |
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| title2 = WHOSE DICK IS THAT ON THE WIKIPEDIA ‘PENIS’ PAGE? |
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== Possible improvement to introduction/opening? == |
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== Wrong information == |
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The section where it talks about growth of penis during puberty cites a research that supposingly found out that penis stops growing after age of 17. The thing is that its not even what the research was about. I cant edit the page so if someone else can please do. |
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== Elephant penis confusing/contradicting info == |
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The article says: "An adult elephant has the largest penis of any land animal at 6 feet (1.8 m) on average.[2] An elephant's penis can reach a length of 100 cm (39 in) and a diameter of 16 cm (6 in) at the base." So is it 180cm on the average or 100cm at the extreme? Needs clarification. |
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Shouldn’t the function of the penis to urinate be mentioned immediately after its function as a sex organ as well? [[User:Aliy Dawut|Aliy Dawut]] ([[User talk:Aliy Dawut|talk]]) 15:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Why is there no picture of human penis? An article about penises should have a picture of human penis. Maybe several, with one from each age group. |
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== Please remove creationist language == |
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:Trust me, we have been through that discussion ''ad nauseam''. Meanwhile note that there is a hatnote directing curious parties to the human organ, or vox humana. [[User:JonRichfield|JonRichfield]] ([[User talk:JonRichfield|talk]]) 13:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC) |
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Duck's penises aren't "designed". [[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 14:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} [[User:Cyclopia|<span style="font-size:small;color:seagreen">cyclopia</span>]][[User talk:Cyclopia|<span style="color:red"><sup>speak!</sup></span>]] 10:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Orphaned references in [[:Penis]] == |
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I check pages listed in [[:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting]] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for [[User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer|orphaned references]] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of [[:Penis]]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. |
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<b>Reference named "courtship":</b><ul> |
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<li>From [[Urination]]: Szykman. M., Van Horn, R. C., Engh, A.L. Boydston, E. E. & Holekamp, K. E. (2007) ''[http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~bowles/Dominance/Papers/SzykmanetalHyenaMatingBehaviour2007.pdf Courtship and mating in free-living spotted hyenas]''. Behaviour. 144: 815–846.</li> |
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<li>From [[Cat]]: {{cite journal |
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|title=Mating Behaviors, Courtship Rank and Mating Success of Male Feral Cat (''Felis catus'') |
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|author=Akihiro Yamane; Teruo Doi; Yuiti Ono |
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<li>From [[Animal sexual behaviour]]: {{cite journal |last=Szykman |first=M. |last2=Van Horn |first2=R. C. |display-authors=2 |last3=Engh |first3=A.L. |last4=Boydston |first4=E. E. |last5=Holekamp |first5=K. E. |year=2007 |url=http://web.archive.org/web/20121130102848/http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~bowles/Dominance/Papers/SzykmanetalHyenaMatingBehaviour2007.pdf |format=pdf |title=Courtship and mating in free-living spotted hyenas |journal=Behaviour |volume=144 |issue=7 |accessdate=11 July 2012 |doi=10.1163/156853907781476418}}</li> |
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== Do humans have penises? == |
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<font color="#888800">⚡</font>]] 03:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC) |
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The only current mention of humans in the article is a sentence that says humans do not have a [[baculum]]. It might also be worth mentioning somewhere that humans have penises (usually one per male human and an average of about one per two humans, if I understand correctly). — [[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 17:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Reference overkill == |
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:Humans are placental mammals. Via the transitive property, they are already adequately covered here. Feel free to add a "See also" for [[Human reproductive system]] or similar, however. [[User:Jtrevor99|Jtrevor99]] ([[User talk:Jtrevor99|talk]]) 18:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::I doubt that most people have terms like ''placental mammals'' (and ''transitive property'') in their everyday vocabulary. — [[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 19:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::: Updated lead. [[User:Jtrevor99|Jtrevor99]] ([[User talk:Jtrevor99|talk]]) 20:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Lead photo size difference == |
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There are [[WP:OVERKILL|too many references]] in some areas; one sentence has around 25 citations. Is this necessary? [[User:Melonkelon|Melonkelon]] ([[User talk:Melonkelon|talk]]) 02:11, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:I agree with you. I have no idea what's up that overkill. --[[User:NeilN|'''<font color="#003F87">Neil<font color="#CD0000">N</font></font>''']] <sup><font face="Calibri">''[[User talk:NeilN|<font color="#003F87">talk to me</font>]]''</font></sup> 02:24, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:NeilN]] and [[User:Melonkelon]]: I wasn't even aware of the concept of citation overkill until now - I didn't realize that it was possible for an article to have "too many citations". Can this article's quality be improved by deleting its least reliable citations, while leaving its most reliable citations in place? [[User:Jarble|Jarble]] ([[User talk:Jarble|talk]]) 18:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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::Judging by the deletion discussions [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_October_7#Template:Citation_overkill here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_September_21#Template:Too_many_references here], [[WP:OVERKILL]] appears to be an essay which many editors strongly disagree with. [[User:Jarble|Jarble]] ([[User talk:Jarble|talk]]) 19:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, I directed Jarble to WP:Citation overkill and this section of the talk page, as seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pelvic_thrust&diff=566170513&oldid=566168744 here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pelvic_thrust&diff=566172030&oldid=566171478 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pelvic_thrust&diff=566175368&oldid=566175234 here.] Considering that the Penis article and therefore its associated talk page are undoubtedly on his [[WP:Watchlist]], I'm not sure why he's just now responding to you guys. One reason for his citation overkill, as currently seen with the first line of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Penis&diff=566150955&oldid=565708726#Mammals Mammals section], seems to be to cover text that states "different" or "many," or something similar. But like I stated, he should find one or two [[WP:Reliable sources]] (or even just stopping at four would be fine) that state "different" or "many," or at least shows one or both of those aspects, not add a bunch of WP:Reliable sources just to support that text. There is a '''How to trim excessive citations''' section at WP:Citation overkill for guidance on this matter. [[WP:Bundling]], for example, which is a guideline and cites WP:Citation overkill, is very useful and I use that; it can be used not only with the examples currently shown at WP:Bundling. But there is no need to bundle many reliable sources; 25 references is extreme no matter what. WP:OVERKILL is an essay that is often followed; despite being an essay, it is deferred to in [[WP:Good article]] and [[WP:Featured article]] nominations. You will never see a Wikipedia article make it to good or featured article status with as extreme of citation overkill as Jarble has displayed in this article. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 19:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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::::@[[User:Flyer22]] I've moved some of the references to the article's bibliography so that they no longer add clutter to the text of the article. [[User:Jarble|Jarble]] ([[User talk:Jarble|talk]]) 18:27, 31 July 2013 (UTC) |
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Very odd that I was accused of "making the photo too large" when I was actually shrinking it on my copy of the page, by a significant margin. (It originally appeared at, I believe, 495px width - the preview width - for me.) I'm fine with the current size but wanted to make {{ping|Cyclopia}} and others aware. It's probably a browser rendering difference when no size parameter is supplied. [[User:Jtrevor99|Jtrevor99]] ([[User talk:Jtrevor99|talk]]) 16:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC) |
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==Why is there no image of a dog penis?== |
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There should be. You might argue that there would be one on the dog penis article, but there wasnt, untill i re added it. This one would be fine here - [[File:Hundepenis.jpg|thumb|The penis of a dog]] - and would make the article clearer, and easier to understand.[[Special:Contributions/5.28.89.25|5.28.89.25]] ([[User talk:5.28.89.25|talk]]) 22:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Possible improvement to introduction/opening?
[edit]Shouldn’t the function of the penis to urinate be mentioned immediately after its function as a sex organ as well? Aliy Dawut (talk) 15:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Please remove creationist language
[edit]Duck's penises aren't "designed". 86.31.178.164 (talk) 14:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Human penis which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 17:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Do humans have penises?
[edit]The only current mention of humans in the article is a sentence that says humans do not have a baculum. It might also be worth mentioning somewhere that humans have penises (usually one per male human and an average of about one per two humans, if I understand correctly). — BarrelProof (talk) 17:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Humans are placental mammals. Via the transitive property, they are already adequately covered here. Feel free to add a "See also" for Human reproductive system or similar, however. Jtrevor99 (talk) 18:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I doubt that most people have terms like placental mammals (and transitive property) in their everyday vocabulary. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Updated lead. Jtrevor99 (talk) 20:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I doubt that most people have terms like placental mammals (and transitive property) in their everyday vocabulary. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Lead photo size difference
[edit]Very odd that I was accused of "making the photo too large" when I was actually shrinking it on my copy of the page, by a significant margin. (It originally appeared at, I believe, 495px width - the preview width - for me.) I'm fine with the current size but wanted to make @Cyclopia: and others aware. It's probably a browser rendering difference when no size parameter is supplied. Jtrevor99 (talk) 16:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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