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and [http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&e=1&u=/nm/20040630/wl_nm/iraq_falluja_dc this one] [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless]] 05:41, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC) |
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[[User:Comandante]] changed "terrorist" to "Islamist militant" in the first paragraph, [[User:Jgofborg]] called that "vandalism" and changed it back. "Islamist militant" is far more precise and less loaded then either of the terms discussed above, "terrorist" or "freedom fighter", so I'm about to revert again to Commandante's edit. It's not like Commandante completely purged the word "terrorist" from the article to make an ideological statement, but I think (s)he's suggested a better word choice for the intro. Please respond here with your reasoning if you object. --[[User:Dowcet|Brian Z]] 03:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:On reflection, I can accept that - however, if you check out many of his other contributions which serve to trivialize or even remove the word terrorist from generally-accepted terrorists and incidents, you can see why I missed this as a possibly-valid change. This user's ideology and contributions perhaps made me overly suspicious, I'll admit that, and that this is a good call. [[User:Jgofborg|JG of Borg]] 04:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:BTW, the intro needs cleanup - some more of which I'll do later... it really jumps around and repeats a lot (words like violence, etc)... [[User:Jgofborg|JG of Borg]] 04:11, 21 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Full Transcript Of Zarkawi Video == |
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The whole article needs cleanup. This is the worst page I've ever seen on Wikipedia.--[[User:216.110.81.34|216.110.81.34]] 18:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC) |
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In the name of Allah the most Gracious the most Merciful |
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Mujahedeen Shura Council of Iraq |
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Yeah...whoever is going to such lengths to create questions about US involvement in Iraq: This is the wrong page for it. Furthermore, the person first states that the knife-wielder in the Nick Berg video is not Zarqawi (based on accent and other things), and then states that US intelligence claiming that Zarqawi recieved a prosthesis in Iraq was faulty intelligence, based on the fact that the man identified as Zarqawi in the Nick Berg video had no prosthesis. Someone is pushing a viewpoint at the expense of facts and quality writing. [[User:Jamesg|Jamesg]] 19:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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[[suspicious r-drop|suspicious]] [[r-drop]]<br> |
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why do some american news persons (or others on tv) pronounce it "zuh-KAH-wee"? it's like brooklyn r-drop. that pronunciation is like a character out of a 40's or 50's film or something. There are funny rules for pronouncing the names of prominent militant- or terrorist-types. half the people can't seem to pronounce ''zawahiri'' either. it's weird. [[user:kzzl|Ka-]]<font color="red">[[/izl|zizzl]]</font>[[phono|Mc]] 04:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)<br> |
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"zuh-WARR-ee". retarded but an [[h-drop]] ''is'' easier. [[user:kzzl|Ka-]]<font color="red">[[/izl|zizzl]]</font>[[indecision 5766|Mc]] 07:32, 29 April 2006 (UTC) <br> |
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well, I guess it's not super important now. some legislator just said "Zuh-KAR-ee". let's start saying [[mohometitan]] for "muslim". [[Crackity]][[user:kzzl|Kzz]] 15:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Then fight in Allah\'s cause thou are held responsible only for thyself and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the disbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment (Alnisa’a:84) |
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== DEAD! == |
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O’ Banner’s holders stand, |
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It's being reported on ABC News, through a special report. They say an official announcement is coming and everything has been confirmed. Please leave the date of his death intact. I know it's hard to trust these stories, but they are claiming 100% confirmation. [[User:JoeHenzi|JoeHenzi]] 06:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Where are the lions of Anbar? |
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Where are the lions of Salah Aldeen? |
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Where are Baghdad’s men? |
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Where are the knights of Ninawah and the champions of Dyalah? |
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Where are the courageous of Kurdustan? |
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Where are you the lions of Monotheism? |
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Be fully aware of the apostate media sources. |
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Good work on the quick edit, this hasnt even popped up on any websites yet... I'm sure more info will come out soon. -[[User:sorbix|sorbix]] |
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I swear by Allah, that they have nothing with us except the sharp swords, and between them and us will only be the frightened nights. |
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This banner headline appears MSNBC's website: [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ U.S. officials: Al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has been killed.] I'm sure more internet sources will follow shortly--[[User:RWR8189|RWR8189]] 07:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I swear by Allah that America will be defeated in Iraq. |
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:This has only yet been reported on MSNBC. Other networks have not yet picked up the story, and MSNBC has not even confirmed it. At this point, it's rumor. Let's not report it just yet. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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(Anasheed) |
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::It has been confirmed by at least two news source that he is 100% confirmed dead. The article should be updated to relfect the deceased's status and the details of his death.[[User:JTaylorCU|Jeffrey]] 07:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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(Field commander is talking): |
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They say military officials reported it. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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As for the developing and manufacturing, the brothers, by the grace of Allah have developed and improved two missiles in Alanbar province in particular. |
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:ABCNews was first to report to the best of my knowledge, and they claimed it was 100% confirmed by the military. Now MSNBC has also gone with the story, and I'd look for the other cable networks to do similar at the top of the hour.--[[User:RWR8189|RWR8189]] 07:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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(When missile was fired): |
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::I'm flipping through furiously. I'm surprised no one else has broken this yet. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Against the make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. (Alanfal:60) |
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(Anasheed) |
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:::NBC anchor said a press conference is going on. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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A message for Mankind |
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:::I've only found it on NBC. Though they now say it has been confirmed. Probably enough to append to the article, though I still think it's all speculation at this point. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::It was live on ABC about a half hour ago. They have since gone back to other programming--[[User:RWR8189|RWR8189]] 07:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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(Sheikh Osama) |
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Reported on CNN International. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I focus this call to the young men of Islam; gather together in fighting the crusades and the Jews, and remember Allah at all times repeatedly, by Allah, it’s either victory or martyrdom. No one will surpass his fate, and he who ever turns out to be a martyr, his sole will freely be flying around the paradise as it wishes, close to the throne of Allah; what a great difference between being near his family and/or near his lord. |
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O’ young men of Islam every where, especially those near the battles, where the obligation is further; O’ young men in Aljazeera, Egypt, and Sham; O’ siblings of Salah Aldeen, O’ knights of Mohammad Alfateh, continue your support to your brothers in Iraq, whereby the gravest of the wars is continues, and its fire is on the rise, the crusades have invaded them, killed thousands of them, and abducted thousands, whishing to eliminate them. And they are instead, by the grace of Allah, fighting the crusades patiently, giving up all they’ve got for the sake of Allah and in order to defend themselves. May Allah be with them and those who support them. |
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(sheikh Abu Musaab) |
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Okay, I now see all the networks coming out with it. Good enough for now, though I'd like to see a press conference or ''something'' official... [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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All praise be to Allah granting might to his religion with his victory, lowering the infidels with his supremacy. Sorting circumstances by his order; Plotting for the disbelievers with his arrangement; He who alternated the days with his divine justice. |
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:I imagine it takes more than 30 minutes to organize a press conference at 3:30 AM US Eastern time. — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|talk]]</font></sup> 07:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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And peace be upon who Allah raised the minaret of Islam with his sword. |
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My treasured nation, |
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Just reported on BBC World Service. -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 07:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I am conversing to you not with falsehoods, hoping to find with you open ears and prudent hearts, for the honest man does not deceive his family. |
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The crusade enemy, when invaded Iraq, meant to control this nation and reinforce the Zionist state, from the Nile to the Euphrates. However, Allah granted your sons the Mujahedeen by standing firm before the strongest crusaders attack to the Islamic land. |
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It's not 3:30 AM in Iraq. It's on FOX now too. They say bombing attack. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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They stood strong against this attack for over three years, disbursing their soles and their wealth. They stood against this massive military, media, and economical attack not for anything except to defend you, your religion, your sons, and your honor. |
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Allah dispersed the enemies’ gathering and their defeat became clearer to who ever has eyesight and prudent heart. |
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Here are your sons, by the grace of Allah, indulging into one battle after another, and attack after attack; they by the will of Allah hold the upper hand in the battle field now. |
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If it wasn’t for the continuous and ongoing media muting, you would’ve seen the astonishing. By Allah it’s the championships and the victories coming to us, and you my nation should thank Allah for this great bounty, that Allah prepared a group of your sons the Mujahedeen defending you and protecting your honor, otherwise the Sunnah in Iraq would’ve been in between a revulsion crusade and a betraying Shiite. And the women of the Sunnah would’ve been on the laps of the revulsion crusades and the betraying Shiites; Abu Ghraib and the interior ministry jails remain memorable. |
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My treasured nation, |
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:Sweet. Sorry about my revert, I hadn't seen this on the news and nothing on the web when I checked. So I guess I should get my news from Wikipedia now ;) As for Mr. Zarqawi, good riddance.--[[User:Commodore Sloat|csloat]] 07:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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We are in Iraq a stone throw from the Masjed Alaqsa, we fight in Iraq and our eyes are on Alqsa which will never be freed except with a guiding Quraan and a prevailing sword; “but enough is thy Lord to guide and to help” (Alforqan:31) |
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The history and experience had showed that you have no one after Allah except your Mujahedeen sons; they are your protection, your strong shield, and your beating heart. They become happy to your happiness and sad to your sadness; they stay up all night for your protection and have jealousy for you. Their hearts burst in sorrow for your state, and their tongues never stop chanting: O’ Allah elevate the state of humiliation and defeat away from my nation, O’ Allah bring back victory to my nation. |
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::Add me to the list of "sorry for the revert" with the double [[whammy]] of also reverting on [[Deaths in 2006]]. I love being proven wrong! [[User:BryanG|BryanG]]<sup>[[User talk:BryanG|(talk)]]</sup> 07:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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As for the American administration, and to its chairman the cross banner’s holder Bush, we say to him and to whoever is swimming in his space from the Jews and the crusades and form the Shiites and others, we say that you will never be safe in the Islamic land, and by Allah you will never feel secured so long we still have a beating nerve and a moving eyelash. |
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Can we change the article to include this in the "claims of death" section until it is formally confirmed. [[User:Harry Hayfield|Harry Hayfield]] 07:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Previously, our leader Osama Bin Laden may Allah protect him, had offered you a long truce. It could’ve been better for you and those who are with you if you’d have accepted, but your arrogance pushed you to refuse. Here you are today, running from east to west trying to find solutions “will not stand except as stands one whom the evil one by his touch hath driven to madness” (Albaqarah:275). You turned to be a grave liar, betraying your own people that everything is under control, and then soon everyone finds out about your lies and so on. You became like the one who’s treating himself from alcohol by alcohol. You were never at any time truthful with yourself or your people, although it’s found some truth in your great grandparents you are fully detached from. |
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Why don’t you show the truth about your soldiers and their inferior state of struggle? |
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Why don’t you tell your people about the continuous suicides amongst your soldiers? |
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Why don’t you tell your people that your soldiers can never go to sleep unless they take the hallucinating and drugging pills? So they become like cattle driven by your war generals, the Neozionists, to the killing fate. |
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Why don’t you tell your people about the congregational escape and the defiance among your troops? |
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Listen you grave liar and insolent one; your dreams will never come true, our blood and bodies are between you and your imaginings. And what is coming your way is much greater than what passed by the will of Allah. |
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:I think pretty soon it should change to "Death". :) --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:They seem a lot more certain this time, and I'd say keep it up top so the hordes looking for it tomorrow don't go "wtf where's the news?" It's in ITN on the Main Page, after all. — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|talk]]</font></sup> 07:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:CNN says a press conference from the Iraqi PM is coming up shortly. Forensic tests still need to be done, but military sources seem very confident this time around. -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 07:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:: Press conference on CNN right now. -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 07:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::: Iraqi PM confirms it. Cheering and clapping in the audience. -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 07:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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The game of rotten democracy that you brought to Iraq, after you gave hope to people about freedom, happiness, and the economical/personal security; all of these lies went with the winds and will never come back by the will of Allah. |
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Yea I'm suprised that only wikipedia has it. Wikipedia is always to first to get news. Way to go wikipedia! :) [[User:Zachorious|Zachorious]] 07:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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There we see you today, trying with all what you got to bring together the clusters, the parties, the partners from your tails to bring about a handicapped government that it might pull you out from your crucial pitfall. |
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:Aide to Iraqi PM confirms, according to CNNI. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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We believe that any government you place in Iraq, whether be it from the betrayal Shiites or Zionist Kurds, or your tails from the Sunnah; it will only be an apostate government that will aid the crusades, and it came only to be a poisoned dagger stabbed in the heart of the Islamic Nation. |
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::YES!--[[User:Mystalic|Mystalic]] 07:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::: Good riddance to one evil son of a bitch. Wish I could be at a victory party in Iraq or Jordan tomorrow. |
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::::Amen to that! Another ugly, contagious, pus-filled wart rightfully removed from the posterior of society. I'm pretty sure he's gonna have his own special section in hell reserved for him. ;) [[User:Misternuvistor|misternuvistor]] 10:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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America learned today that its planes, tanks, momentous troops, and its tails from the Shiites army will never be able to finalize the battle with Mujahedeen. Therefore, it’s trying to surround the Jehad by pushing its tails from those who are counted to Sunnah, those who accepted to play the role and be a rope that tightens around the Sunnah’s necks and pull the Americans from their defeat. They used those who use the Islamic slogans as a mask to spread their masters’ propaganda on the importance of organizing the military and the police, and confuse the Muslims with their mixed messages injecting poison in honey, forgetting intentionally or not that every occupier through out history used a cover up face from the occupied to use them in order to establish a solid base and embezzle the wealth of the country and its people. |
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cnn.com: "Two Pentagon officials told CNN that the government is awaiting al-Maliki's announcement in Baghdad before commenting on the report officially." [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Allah has said: “And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them” (5:51) |
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That is by constituting for this life and the hereafter. |
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And Allah has said: “for Pharaoh and Haman and (all) their hosts were Men of sin” (28:8) |
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Therefore, we repeat our warning to whoever is trying to reorganize and spread the military and the police forces, which was established only to be a tool for the occupier in their bigger plan, and to implement laws other than the law of Allah. |
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Video on CNNI. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 07:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Be extremely aware, those who join these apostate forces have nothing with us except the sharp swords, and between them and us will be nothing except grave days and nights. |
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Allah has said;” Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan” (4:76) |
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Having said the previous, and having mentioned the defeat of the enemy and his paraphernalia. The enemy is trying today to seduce two kinds of people to the alleged parliamentary game to harvest the fruits of the Mujahedeen whom only trying to make the word of Allah prevails. |
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From official PC from Iraqi officials: "Today Zarqawi has been killed." [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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The first kind of which is the one trying to attach oneself with the Mujahedeen, although they never lived the Mujahedeen life nor they ever supported them at the occupation time. The second of which is those who had at the beginning the honor of fighting the crusades, however what counts is the end; their efforts won’t be accepted by the law of Islam unless they strive with action to make the word of Allah prevails, using what Allah lawfully guided us with, the clean means, not by using evil parliaments striving to have the word of Allah mixed with other man made constitutions and laws. The aim does not justify the means here. |
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Although these two kinds, and whoever follows their footsteps, allege that they are trying with these parliaments to implement the law of Allah. However, the actions and the historical experiences oppose their myth. Anyone that is following the political map in Iraq knows that the majority of the parliaments’ members are from the Shiites and the atheists of Kurds and Sunnah, not to mention those of the mixed motion believes. Therefore, the heavy side in the balance of the parliaments will always be in the hand of evil. |
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Allah has said: “beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee” (5:49) |
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And Allah has said: “Fast thou not turned thy vision to those who declare that they believe in the revelations that have come to thee and to those before thee? their (real) wish is to resort together for judgment (in their disputes) to the evil one, though they were ordered to reject him but Satan\'s wish is to lead them astray far away (from the right” (4:60) |
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: Gen. Casey says it was an airstrike, 3 km north of Baquba (sic?). More details at 3PM local. -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 07:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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As for you patient truthful Mujahedeen, may Allah accept from you and us the best of deeds, and may Allah bless your Jehad. You were able by the will of Allah and his support to stop this crusades’ attack and you’ve bounded him with injuries. Thus, continue your Jehad and operations, and elevate your hits, it’s only the sign of victory and it’s the last breath of the cross worshipers in the land of two rivers. The low fighting self-esteem of the crusades’ soldiers is an only obvious sign in Iraq. Therefore, renew your intentions, and correct yourselves, and carry on together against your enemy. Your enemy is uncovered, by the will of Allah, weakened, unprotected, and broken in pieces. Do not give him a chance to take its breath, continue your stabbings one after the other, O’ Banner’s holders stand, |
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WN has some good sources already: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Al-Zarqawi_reported_killed_by_United_States_soldiers [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Where’s are the lions of Anbar? |
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Where are the lions of Salah Aldeen? |
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Where are Baghdad’s men? |
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Where are the knights of Ninawah and the champions of Dyalah? |
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Where are the courageous of Kurdustan? |
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Where are you the lions of Monotheism? |
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O’ siblings of Khaled and Muthananh, Saad and Meqdad and Salah Aldeen. |
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Where are the immigrants? Where are the supporters? |
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Where are the people of Surat Altawbah and Alanfal? |
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Where are the people of Alfath and Alqital? |
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O’ leaders of this nation; who is for the crying women, who is for the jailed dignified women, who is for the purified women in the jails of the Shiites. |
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:Are we so sure of a '''*US*''' report of his death that we're ready to place his date of death in the first sentence of the article? I thought the [[Pentagon (USA)|Pentagon]] wasn't considered a 100% trustworthy source, because of its ties to arch-conservative [[George W. Bush]]. It wouldn't hurt to wait a few days. |
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O’ Allah, there is no life except the life of the hereafter, O’ Allah grant victory to immigrants and their supporters. |
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Be very aware from the embezzlers, with their masters the crusades, trying to surround you. Be aware and extremely aware from putting down your weapons, and then you will harvest nothing but the defeat, beat and crush in this life and the hereafter. |
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:I'd prefer see a section on his "reported death" or "the airstrike in X" and when the clamor subsides (and it's not [[breaking news]] or in doubt) put in the date of death. |
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You were always supplicating to Allah day and night to ease the way for you to join the Jehad in Afghanistan and Chechnya or other places. After that, Allah chose you for the trade of Jehad at your own land, and opened for you the doors of paradise. Be extremely aware of closing these blessed doors, be aware “And be not like a woman who breaks into untwisted strands the yarn which she has spun, after it has become strong”(16:92) |
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Do not let the trade of Jehad depart your land; otherwise you will be disgraced and you’ll be only ruled by the scum; “they set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons and let your women folk live” (2:49) |
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:What's the rush? --[[User:Ed Poor|Uncle Ed]] 12:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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“If ye turn back (from the Path), He will substitute in your stead another people; then they would not be like you” (47:38) |
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::it's not a pentagon report... it's a report from the people that are looking at the bodies & the blown up building... it is everyone saying this, not just U.S. sources... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 13:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Finally, I glad tied the nation by establishing the Mujahedeen Shura Council of Iraq, which will be by the grace and will of Allah as the kernel for the establishment of an Islamic State, in which, the word of Allah prevails. All praise be to Allah, the efforts are being joined, and the hands are being extended and shaken for the obedience of Allah and his messenger and the Jehad in the cause of Allah. And this Council will be, by the will of Allah, an umbrella for every truthful Mujahed. I am honored to be one member of this blessed Council under its blessed leadership. At the same time remaining the Ameer ( leader) of the Alqaeda Organization in the land of two rivers ( Iraq). |
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Is he dead meat? |
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The servant of Jehad and Mujahedeen, glorifying Allah, your brother Abu Musaab Alzarqawi. |
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This evil coward got what he deserved. I hope he died a slow and painful death. And BTW, I'm a liberal.--[[User:Folksong|Folksong]] 19:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Friday, 23 Rabii Awal 1427, |
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April 21, 2006. |
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All praise be to Allah. |
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Good riddance to the murderous TERRORIST, not militant or any other shabby apologist term. |
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(Anasheed) |
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== June 8th? == |
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(One of the commanders in Anbar speaking) |
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I think the bombing took place on June 7th -- it just took them a day to report it. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 07:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Based on what? — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|talk]]</font></sup> 08:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::PC stated he the bombing took place ''last'' night, though other sources state ''overnight''. I'm assuming last night refers to the 7th. I may be wrong though. Let me go dig for sources. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 08:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::CNN stated it was on Wed which makes it the 7th --[[User:Petahhhh|Petahhhh]] 08:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful, and peace be upon our prophet Muhammad his family and companions. |
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:::Early Wed. morning according to the NBC news cut-in here just now... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 09:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I welcome our beloved sheikh in the land of Anbar, the land of Jehad. And we ask Allah to keep it a thorn in the eyes of the disbelievers. |
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The head of US-led forces in Iraq, General George Casey, said Zarqawi was killed at 1815 (1415 GMT) on Wednesday, in an air strike against an "isolated safe house... approximately 8km (five miles) north of Baquba". - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5058304.stm - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 10:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I would like to inform about the great victory in the battles of Ramadi, killing many of the disbelievers and taking over the center and headquarter of the infidels. |
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>>Interestingly, his date of death was ANNOUNCED on Muhammed's traditional date of death. At least according to the Wikipedia front page.<< |
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Taking over the city for several days, preventing the crusades from even coming near it. |
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And this operation was a clear message against the visit by the infidels’ ambassadors ( Rice and Straw). |
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In general, the self esteem of the Mujahedeen is high, in opposite to the infidels whom are always in continuous deterioration. |
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As for the developing and manufacturing, the brothers, by the grace of Allah have developed and improved two missiles in Alanbar province in particular. |
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== date fix at the top... == |
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, that will be used soon, one has the ability to travel 40km with a 50kg warhead, here’s a picture of it… |
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Then fight in Allah\'s cause thou are held responsible only for thyself and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the disbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment (Alnisa’a:84) |
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something weird is happening with the code at the very beginning of the article... between the arabic name and the dates... I don't know enough wiki markup yet to figure out how to fix it... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 08:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I can't figure it out either--and it's really frustrating to fix since it keeps switching from LtoR to RtoL everytime you try to edit it. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 08:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Woo, much better. Props to Adolphus. However, it would be nice if we could get that in parentheses and before the date. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 08:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::yeah... dernd backwards writing ppl... I got the parentheses around the arabic, but no idea how to get it before the date... if someone knows how to properly write arabic, feel free to fix it... we would like the arabic name between the english name and the dates... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 08:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::May be best to put it back the way you had it. Right now it just looks bizarre, and I agree about the backwards writing--drives me absolutely insane. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 09:07, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::silly wiki markup... numbers are universal, so it didn't recognize the switch back to english until after the dates... fixed, but we're gonna need to keep the 'b.' there... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 09:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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And the other is anti armored vehicles, is carried on the shoulder and has been internally modified to penetrate armored vehicles, and here’s a picture of it. |
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wewt {{user|The Anome}}... it does work when you remember to actually add the character... LOL - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 10:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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(Anasheed) |
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== sprotect? == |
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فبما رحمة من الله لنت لهم ولو كنت فظا غليظ القلب لانفضوا من حولك فاعف عنهم واستغفر لهم وشاورهم في الأمر فإذا عزمت فتوكل على الله إن الله يحب المتوكلين} |
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Someone just put in an sprotect request for this article on [[WP:AIV]]. Is there a consensus on this? -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 08:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Only seen one vandal yet. Likely to be more given the breaking news, but I'm working on the article right now and will protect if the vandalism gets out of hand. Anons may have some useful info to contribute. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 08:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:: Sounds good, I'll remove the request on AIV for now. -[[User:Changlc|Loren]] 08:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Can't be pre-emptive. And btw, AIAV isn't the place for protection requests. [[WP:RfP|The requests for page protection]] page is. --[[User:Woohookitty|''Woohookitty'']]<sup>[[User talk:Woohookitty|(meow)]]</sup> 08:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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“It is part of the mercy of Allah that dost deal gently with them. Wert thou severe or harsh hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (their faults), and ask for (Allah\'s) forgiveness them in affairs (of moment). Then when thou hast taken a decision, put thy trust in Allah. For Allah loves those who put their trust (in him” (3:159) |
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I was the one that posted on AIV... There are a few of us watching the page now, I think it's under control... sorry, was a bit pre-emptive, I realize that now... was just expecting worse... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 08:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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{إن ينصركم الله فلا غالب لكم وإن يخذلكم فمن ذا الذي ينصركم من بعده وعلى الله فليتوكل المؤمنون} |
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:I'm readding the sprotect. There has been repeated vandalism of this page by unregistered users. [[User:Akcarver|Alan]] 00:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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If Allah helps you, non can overcome you: if he forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in God, then, let believers put their trust (3:160) |
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Sheikh Ayman Alzahahre’s voice: |
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== Senior Aide Captured? == |
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O’ Islamic Nation, the turf of Iraq now is the most dangerous field of Jehad in this century. Therefore, the nation must support the courageous Mujahedeen that are fighting in the very forefront defending the honor of Islam and its dignity. |
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(Anasheed) |
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Trying to find a source, just heard a report that Reuters has stated a senior aide has been captured and a computer containing data on multiple members. Probably too speculative for now, but it may be worth mentioning in the article eventually. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 08:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Sheikh Abu Musaab: by Allah, American will be defeated in Iraq, by the will of Allah, and it’ll leave Iraq humiliated, crushed, and defeated by the will of Allah. |
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== PD Image? == |
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Do not forget us from your supplications. |
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Is there a public domain image (perhaps one made by the federal government) of Zarqawi anywhere? I would like to get an image of Zarqawi up on the main page, but we can't use fair use images there. I found a couple on commons, but neither had adequate source info. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 10:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:you could probably check the FBI's most wanted website... I'm sure those are PD... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 10:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::How about [[:Image:Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.jpg|this one]]? It's tagged as missing source info, but I think the source is well-stated: FBI. Do you think it really is PD? (Note that the image is on commons). [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 10:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Your brothers in the Media Committee. |
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Wait! [http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/alzarqawi.htm Lookie]. Isn't the image used on this article PD? It looks to be FBI. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 10:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:that's the same image all right... and I am ''pretty sure'' FBI would be PD... they allow people to print out wanted posters freely... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 10:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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http://www.w-n-n.com/showthread.php?t=12069 |
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::Okay, should I change the source info? [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 10:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I dunno... I'm the noob here... LOL - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 10:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Woops, just changed it and then noticed the AP watermark at the bottom. Reverting... [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 10:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Zarqawi tribe == |
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Alright, uploaded [[:Image:Alzarqawi3.jpeg]] taken from FBI most-wanted page. At first glance, they're identical, but when you look closer, there are quite a few differences--camera angle, lacking watermark, etc. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 10:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Zarqawi tribe In Jordan more one million |
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:Scratch that. Anyway, there must be some image that's PD--what about the images from his videos? Who owns the copyright to those? [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 11:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Nobody who's likely to file a copyright lawsuit ;) --[[User:Commodore Sloat|csloat]] 11:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::ok... looking at the Yahoo photos, they have one from a video of his... if it's a screenshot from a video that he released to the public would that count? I mean, he's dead, is he really going to complain about us using his video footage? I could upload this photo if you want... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 11:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::If you could, that would be great. I'm talking to someone else about the video images--he owns the copyright technically, but you know the copyright paranoia on WP--Oh noooeee, he'll rise from the grave and sue us! [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 11:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Sometime in 2001, Zarqawi was arrested in Jordan but was soon released. He was later convicted in absentia and sentenced to death for plotting the attack on the Radisson SAS Hotel == |
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OK... [[:Image:Photo608-1.jpg]]... caption from Yahoo is "An image grab from an undated video released on the website of the US Department of Defence (DOD) May 2006 shows Al-Qaeda's Iraq frontman Abu Musab al-Zarqawi with a masked comrade (L) at an undisclosed location in Iraq." ... released on DoD website, should be free right? I'll let you deal with the tags... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 11:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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His arrest in 2001 is merely an allegation and there are no contemporary press accounts of this arrest and release, and no signs of a trial (source http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_188&scale=1#complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_188). His link to the attack on the Radisson comes from an Associated Press article from 4 April 2001 which stated that Jordanian officials had two new suspects for the bombing of the Radisson (see Flat Earth News by Nick Davies) but the Jordanians had already tried 28 people and sentenced 6 of them to death 7 months before this press release and Zarqawi wasn't mentioned once. He was convicted in absentia but to 15 years in prison, not death. |
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:Can you get me a source URL on it? Thanks. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 11:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::[http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060523/photos_wl_me_afp/34c6ae5bdf759278e7fc1fc99e679705;_ylt=An5ycpNdVWQ9r.ukIBlERGlPtbAF;_ylu=X3oDMTBia2Jza2VjBHNlYwNnYWxsZXJ5 here] is the exact page I pulled it from... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 11:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== The training camp specialized in poisons and explosives == |
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== Predator UAV == |
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This is directly contradicted by Luke Harding of the Observer who reached the camp and reported "The terrorist factory was nothing of the kind - more a dilapidated collection of concrete outbuildings at the foot of a grassy, sloping hill. Behind the barbed wire and a courtyard strewn with broken rocket parts, are a few empty concrete houses. There is a bakery. There is no sign of chemical weapons anywhere." ... Harding concludes that Powell's allegation is "clearly little more than cheap hyperbole". (source http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/09/iraq1). Troops went to this site after the invasion of Iraq and found nothing but old rat poison. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2023 == |
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stated on NBC television news, I'm sure I heard it... not sure if it's listed in any of the sources cited... feel free to remove if not cited in one of the resources... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 10:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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{{Edit semi-protected|Abu Musab al-Zarqawi|answered=yes}} |
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:In addition, I've heard repeated references (on radio news broadcasts this morning) that the aerial attack was made with two 500 pound bombs. At first, I had thought that a Predator UAV couldn't carry 500 pound bombs, but [[RQ-9 Predator B|a Wikipedia page]] indicates otherwise. Anyway, we'll get a citation as the news unfolds.[[User:Mlibby|Mlibby]] 11:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Can we update the photo of this terrorist to his wanted poster? The poster has the current pic as well as two of his disguises, |
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::that's why I removed the RQ-1 reference from the article text, I heard Predator & Hellfire missles at first, and then just now heard 2 500 pound bombs, myself... still searching for someone to mention {in print} the equipment used... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 12:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss_060608_zarqawi_/ss_060608_Zarqawi_07.jpg [[User:Long2181998|Long2181998]] ([[User talk:Long2181998|talk]]) 03:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC) |
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:::(disregard, wrong Predator). This article states that the strike was conducted with 2 500 pounders off a pair of F-16s. Stratfor article http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=267334 Sorry if this editing sucks, I'm new at this.[[User:128.143.218.69|128.143.218.69]] 16:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The current image is more relevant than the one you provide - the lead image in a biography should be only an image of the subject. [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 03:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::I mean this is literally the current image of the subject in addition to his disguises to evade prosecutions? Idk how the current image is better when the new image has both the current image + latest updates? [[User:Long2181998|Long2181998]] ([[User talk:Long2181998|talk]]) 17:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::It isn't an image of him, it's an image of a poster. Per [[MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE]], {{tq|Images should look like what they are meant to illustrate}} - he does not look like a poster. [[User:Tollens|Tollens]] ([[User talk:Tollens|talk]]) 18:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2023 == |
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== Date of Birth == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Abu Musab al-Zarqawi|answered=yes}} |
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Dutch news media (and probably others, too) said that al-Z's exact age was unknown, and that he was thought to be "in his thirties". So where does the exact date of birth in the article come from? Has it been verified? |
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B403 Civil Affairs, CAT from Al Kisik interpreter got the first call on where Zarqāwī and his family where located [[User:Ejoseph234|Ejoseph234]] ([[User talk:Ejoseph234|talk]]) 06:01, 30 June 2023 (UTC) |
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[[User:GdB|GdB]] 10:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 08:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:Google[http://www.google.com/search?q=al-Zarqawi+1966] suggests that October 1966 is pretty widely accepted, though some people such as the FBI[http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/alzarqawi.htm] and Interpol[http://www.interpol.int/Public/NoticesUN/Search/2.asp] go for Oct 30 rather than Oct 20. [[User:Weregerbil|Weregerbil]] 12:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::should we change that to (c. October 1966), just for accuracy's sake? - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 13:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::I think it should be changed, yes. [[User:Jojojigamobo|Joey]] 17:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2023 (2) == |
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== Terrorist? == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Abu Musab al-Zarqawi|answered=yes}} |
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Who is the terrorist? Yanquis go home. {{unsigned|81.35.179.235}} |
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Zarqāwī was first reported to us forces from CAT B403 interpreter from AL Kisik [[User:Ejoseph234|Ejoseph234]] ([[User talk:Ejoseph234|talk]]) 06:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 08:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC) |
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::If by UN you mean Britain (who aren't really very "good" members of the UN) and the random clean-up crew from other countries vs. the 130,000+ Americans, then yes, the whole UN is in Iraq =D. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 12:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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well, just cuz we started the invasion doesn't mean we didn't have to call for help... look who's in charge of our country right now... LOL - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 12:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Bloated corpse== |
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Can someone upload the picture of his face? What do people think of posting it? --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 13:07, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:if you can find one we're allowed to use... LOL - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 13:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::I'm pretty sure it would be public domain, but I don't know if people would find it appropriate. The Hussein brothers articles do not have their pictures. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 13:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::: Like most sane people, regardless of party affiliation, I'm thrilled that Zarqawi is dead. But I'm not sure if a death-photo of him is appropriate. By that standard every deceased person on wikipedia who has a death-photo should have it put up. I think it would be a bit tacky. Perhaps instead we should have an external link at the bottom of the page to the comparison (between live Zarqawi and dead Zarqawi). --[[User:BlueTruth|BlueTruth]] 13:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::I found a [http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html picture], but I think this one would belong to CNN. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 13:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::[http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060608/i/r2359620096.jpg Another link]. I think the picture is Reuters's, then. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 14:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::::Well, no, it's actually a slightly different angle. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 14:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::::http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/june/ogrish-dot-com-zarqawidead.jpg --[[User:86.4.56.196|86.4.56.196]] 15:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Yes, but there is more significance to having this guy's death pic than the average dead guy. The nature of his death is a part of the story. By the way, he looks pretty good in his death pic for a guy who had a couple of 500 pound bombs dropped on him, wonder what's with that? [[User:Jake b|Jake b]] 16:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::::: True, but notice you didn't see anything below the neck. I'm assuming his body was either horribly mutilated or indeed removed completely. God, I feel sorry for the grunts who had to clean up his face and make it look presentable for photos. --[[User:65.96.200.120|65.96.200.120]] 17:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::: Ooops. That's me. Forgot to sign-in. --[[User:BlueTruth|BlueTruth]] 17:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== can someone put his new pictures up please == |
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im sure u can find it from department of defence website or other goverment websites. thanks |
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== Pronunciation of al-Zarqawi == |
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Would be a nice addition to an otherwise comprehensive wiki. |
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Anybody? |
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:It's pronounced al-zack-are-wee --[[User:86.4.56.196|86.4.56.196]] 15:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Are you sure about that? The 'r' comes before the 'q'. --[[User:Smack|Smack]] ([[User talk:Smack|talk]]) 15:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I have always heard it pronounced "al-zar-car-wee" on the news, but reporters' pronunciation of foreign names is often poor at best. — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|talk]]</font></sup> 15:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Technically because of assimilation the "L" isn't pronounced: "Az-zark'woo-iie". -[[User:Fsotrain09|Fsotrain09]] 15:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Response from Muslim world == |
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Thank Allah for this good news, this distorter of Islam is now dead, thank the United States, inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un!! George Bush is good man, sall-Allahu aleyhi wa sallam. Maybe there now peace, Insh'Allah. There is evil man that want this edit out, you are liar and demon!! {{unsigned|88.113.137.238}} |
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:Perhaps you would like to contribute a section to the article, on the attitudes of Muslims toward Zarqawi. Is he beloved, hated? Considered mainstream Muslim or a "distorter"? |
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:Please provide sources. Thanks. --[[User:Ed Poor|Uncle Ed]] 14:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:: Yes I can tell this, my people say "USA, USA!", most very happy. But afraid also. There is so many death here every day. There is much hope!!! |
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:hehe... a quote on TV just now "hell has a special place reserved for Zarqawi." (Sen. Joe Biden)... couldn't'a said it better myself... and I agree with Ed, we'd love a 'local's' opinion and input... just make sure to keep it [[WP:NPOV]]... - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 14:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Here's a [http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-06-08T191921Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-253496-1.xml&archived=False good start]. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 14:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I actually printed out the picture of his corpse and then used it as toilet paper. No joke...that's how much I hate this evil, evil man. I'm so glad that he's dead and gone forever. |
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*What did he ever do to you, I'm a pussy? [[User:63.23.127.180|63.23.127.180]] 16:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I hope you let the ink dry first. --[[User:TJive|TJive]] 15:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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About time!BTW 63.23.127.180 you're an idiot |
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-(Iamhungey) |
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== video of bombing == |
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javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/world/2006/06/08/vo.zarqawi.bomb.dod','2006/06/15'); |
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That is a link to a video on http://cnn.com of the bombing of the place where al-Zarqawi was. Can someone please find a better link to it so we may put it in the external links section? [[User:Dposse|dposse]] 16:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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*That sure looked more powerful than a 500 lb bomb. [[User:63.23.127.180|63.23.127.180]] 16:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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**Than educate us, how does an explosion of a 500 lb bomb look like? And why would the US Army lie/misinform uson that topic? [[User:Mieciu K|Mieciu K]] 16:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Forget about the bomb. Please just find a better link to the video. thanks. [[User:Dposse|dposse]] 21:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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nevermind. i got it. [[User:Dposse|dposse]] 21:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Is he a terrorist or a millitant? == |
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I'm confused. [[User:129.10.245.1|129.10.245.1]] 16:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:He's a ''terrorist''. But in might be good to explore the difference here in the talk section... [[User:Jake b|Jake b]] 16:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I'd say he adequately fits the description of both [[User:DMeyering|Antimatter]] 16:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:In fact a section "Terrorist or Militant" would greatly improve this article. [[User:Mieciu K|Mieciu K]] 16:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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It's interesting that to fit the Liberal bent of Wikipedia, the artical has been more or less scrubbed of any suggestion that al-Zarqawi was a terrorist. Sad, really. I guess virtually every other news source in the world is wrong... [[User:Jake b|Jake b]] 22:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Was it impossible to be captured alive and put to trial? == |
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do we have sources explaining why bombing was considered necessary? |
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:Foolish man, he not needed trial!! He was the child of Shaitan that will rot for ever, boiling water will be in his stomach!!! |
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:I agree. It is against the spirit of democracy that Zarqawi (and the others in the building) should be killed without being tried for the crimes they have been accused of. Besides, a prisoner is less inspiring to terrorists than a martyr. |
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:It is highly unlikely that al-Zarqawi would have been captured alive anyway and it is very likely that bin Laden will meet a similar fate (for reasons aforementioned). --[[User:Asulca593|Asulca593]] 21:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Zarqawi had been tried and found guilty by Jordanian courts, receiving 2 death sentences. He just had a stay of execution that's all. |
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:Given his penchant for escapes, I suppose you take what you get. The anon comment above is a good one, too. — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|talk]]</font></sup> 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Finally Dead == |
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Mission Accomplished. [[User:69.109.170.225|69.109.170.225]] 18:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Well... Don't you think he would have been a little more valuable alive for interrogation? Men like him usually talk a mean line but end up squealing like stuck pigs under pressure. Anyway, why are you commenting here? Why not write a letter to your favorite ''neo-con'' blog? [[User:Jake b|Jake b]] 18:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:This is ABSOLUTELY NOT Mission Accomplished, although it is a small step in the right direction. The insurgent problem is much bigger than just al-Zarqawi. We have already seen that as several Al-Qaeda No. 2's (funny how there has been about 10 of them) were killed in the past years, someone has always been right behind them to take their place. You can kill their leaders, but it will not diminish their hatred. It is pretty much guaranteed that someone will take his place.--[[User:Asulca593|Asulca593]] 21:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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[http://homepage.mac.com/brianflemming/iblog/images/bush_aircraft_carrier_photo.jpg Mission Accomplished]? haha. [[User:Dposse|dposse]] 21:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== No reference to child that became victim?! == |
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Regardless of what one thinks of Zarqawi's death, why is NO mention made of the child that died along in the attack. The article should definitely mention that! |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html |
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claims that a woman and child have died as well. How old was he? |
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This puts a stain on this 'victory', I was happy to hear he himself was no longer a threat, but now I have doubts. One might argue whether one nameless kid wasn't worth saving so many other lifes, but you won't see me cheer anymore at all. |
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One note : aren't there other places on Wikipedia where one can debate the justification of this? All this debate is blocking a serious discussion about factual accuracy?? |
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[[User:Evilbu|Evilbu]] 18:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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It's highly likely that the kid would have been trained to be a Jihadist |
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==Limelight== |
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Dont know if anyone is aware of this yet, bet the Yahoo! news article regarding his death includes a link to our article on the man. [[User:TomStar81|TomStar81]] 18:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Wikifying references == |
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I've added the wikify template to the references section twice, and twice it was removed. There's a reason why I put it there: the section is a complete mess. References should concisely state which source was used and by whom, and when the reference was retrieved by the author rather than just dumping a whole bunch of external links into it. Use [[Template:Cite web]] in order to fix it. —Michiel Sikma 「[[User:Msikma|Gebruiker]]/[[User_talk:Msikma|Overleg]]」 19:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Correct time of death== |
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They claim they dropped 2 bombs, but they also claim he did not die immediately, what happened in between, shall we say the time was 7pm? |
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Photo of the dead body, is this good to include here, healthy or not right, even though he was a murderer? |
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:Agreed, there is an over emphasis on the corpse. Since he is a marty to al-quada, and otherwise a complete asshole, I propose the removal of at least some of the photos relating to his death if not all. Not to mention Dead.jpg is really a poor name and image does not even contain a license. --<small>[[User:Cool Cat|Cat]] [[User talk:Cool Cat|out]]</small> 19:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Protection == |
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For anyone who's interested, articles linked to from the main page, according to received wisdom, should not be protected. Anyone able to unprotect it might therefore wish to consider doing so. [[User:Henry Flower|Henry]][[User talk:Henry Flower|<sup>Flower</sup>]] 19:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I agree. Unprotected. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 20:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== typos in one section towards end == |
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The section 'Alleged treason of Al-Qaeda' or whatever the name is contains numerous spelling errors. Perhaps someone with permission to edit could quickly fix the typos? [[User:71.36.116.229|71.36.116.229]] 20:07, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:You should now be able to edit it yourself if you'd like. It had to be protected earlier due to vandalism and was left protected *way* longer than it should have been. Pages linked from the main page are typically not protected more than a few minutes--this one was protected for hours. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 20:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Apperant contradiction == |
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The article has a section on terrorist actions, and yet al-Z was an islamic millitant. Can someone explain this to me? |
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:As a leader of a terrorist cell of a terrorist organisation, It can surely be said that he's taken part and coordinated terrorist actions, therefore the section header (IMO) is comepletely valid. [[User:Ood|<font color="Orange">'''Ood'''</font>]] [[User talk:Ood|''<font color="orange"><small>talk</small></font>'']] 20:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:I'd say it is quite clear that he was both. — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|talk]]</font></sup> 00:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Psyop leaflet == |
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I added this pic which used to be in the [[propaganda]] article. I think it really adds a lot and its public domain because its the work of the U.S. government. It didn't really fit into any section other than the conspiracy-theory-esque "Credibility questions" which discusses the possibility that Zarkawi is a modern day [[Emmanuel Goldstein]]. I do not subscribe to this view, and did not mean to add the image in the context of it being ''evidence'' of this minority POV, but I do think it is illustrative of the fact that there is a lot of Zarkawi propaganda whether he was real or not. [[User:Savidan|savidan]]<sup>[[User_talk:Savidan|(talk)]] [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">(e@)</span>]]</sup> 21:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Are you sure this is PD? It was uploaded by [[User:Psywar]] and the source is Psywar.com. I can't find the image anywhere on the site, but I'm a little doubtful that this actually is government work. It would be nice if someone could find a better source for the image. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 00:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::I [[WP:AGF|took Psywar at his word]]. However, I will try to find another source as well. It's certainly clear taht psywar.com doesn't claim to be the author of the image, so it's unlikely they would sue us. [[User:Savidan|savidan]]<sup>[[User_talk:Savidan|(talk)]] [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">(e@)</span>]]</sup> 01:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Current Event == |
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I do not think that a person should be tagged with the {{t1|currentevent}}, because a person can't be an EVENT. I have removed the tag. -[[User:Tcwd|Tcwd]] | [[User talk:Tcwd|Talk]] 21:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Anything can be tagged {{tl|currentevent}} if it mentions a current event. The entire article does not have to be about the event. [[User:TheProject|TheProject]] 23:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::And, btw, the event being documented is his death, not the person (which, as you said, can't be an event). Check the history--you'll see that the article is being updated every second as new information comes in; it really is documenting a current event. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 00:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== Contradiction concerning Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi == |
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According to the article, Abu Abdulrahman al-Iraqi was also killed in the attacks, and that his death was verified, however, it then says in the same section: "Abu Abdulrahman al-Iraqi, the deputy of al-Zarqawi, released a statement to Islamist websites indicating that al-Qaeda in Iraq also confirmed Zarqawi's death: "We herald the martyrdom of our mujahed Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in Iraq … and we stress that this is an honor to our nation."[40]" If he is dead then how can he release a statement!!! --[[User:Inahet|Inahet]] 22:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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I just saw this too... what the heck is goin' on? The same guy can't have been killed in the attack *and* confirmed Zarqawi's death!!! [[User:Moxfyre|Moxfyre]] 23:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Exact time, terrorist== |
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It seems he died at 6:30, he was both a terrorist and a militant, the birthday could be wrong, some say it's october 1965. |
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I suggest we put his birthday in question mark? |
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:Honestly who cares. The doochebag is dead and the world is better for it. I think that's all we need to really worry about. [[User:JohnnyBGood|<font color="Green">'''JohnnyBGood'''</font>]] [[User talk:JohnnyBGood|<font color="Red">'''t'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/JohnnyBGood|<font color="Red">'''c'''</font>]] <b>VIVA!</b> 00:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Woman and a child killed== |
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If we recall, when Uday and Qusay were killed, Qusay's grandson Mustapha was killed, allegedly he was shooting at the us forces when he was half dead... crap, non-sense... In this case we should find out who was the child and a woman, and explain in detail... |
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*It's call "collateral damage." If you want to find out who the women and child were, why don't you too find out all the other women and children killed in all the US raids in Iraq so far? |
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Full Transcript Of Zarkawi Video
[edit]In the name of Allah the most Gracious the most Merciful
Mujahedeen Shura Council of Iraq
Then fight in Allah\'s cause thou are held responsible only for thyself and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the disbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment (Alnisa’a:84)
O’ Banner’s holders stand, Where are the lions of Anbar? Where are the lions of Salah Aldeen? Where are Baghdad’s men? Where are the knights of Ninawah and the champions of Dyalah? Where are the courageous of Kurdustan? Where are you the lions of Monotheism?
Be fully aware of the apostate media sources.
I swear by Allah, that they have nothing with us except the sharp swords, and between them and us will only be the frightened nights.
I swear by Allah that America will be defeated in Iraq.
(Anasheed)
(Field commander is talking):
As for the developing and manufacturing, the brothers, by the grace of Allah have developed and improved two missiles in Alanbar province in particular.
(When missile was fired): Against the make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. (Alanfal:60)
(Anasheed)
A message for Mankind
(Sheikh Osama) I focus this call to the young men of Islam; gather together in fighting the crusades and the Jews, and remember Allah at all times repeatedly, by Allah, it’s either victory or martyrdom. No one will surpass his fate, and he who ever turns out to be a martyr, his sole will freely be flying around the paradise as it wishes, close to the throne of Allah; what a great difference between being near his family and/or near his lord. O’ young men of Islam every where, especially those near the battles, where the obligation is further; O’ young men in Aljazeera, Egypt, and Sham; O’ siblings of Salah Aldeen, O’ knights of Mohammad Alfateh, continue your support to your brothers in Iraq, whereby the gravest of the wars is continues, and its fire is on the rise, the crusades have invaded them, killed thousands of them, and abducted thousands, whishing to eliminate them. And they are instead, by the grace of Allah, fighting the crusades patiently, giving up all they’ve got for the sake of Allah and in order to defend themselves. May Allah be with them and those who support them.
(sheikh Abu Musaab) All praise be to Allah granting might to his religion with his victory, lowering the infidels with his supremacy. Sorting circumstances by his order; Plotting for the disbelievers with his arrangement; He who alternated the days with his divine justice. And peace be upon who Allah raised the minaret of Islam with his sword.
My treasured nation, I am conversing to you not with falsehoods, hoping to find with you open ears and prudent hearts, for the honest man does not deceive his family.
The crusade enemy, when invaded Iraq, meant to control this nation and reinforce the Zionist state, from the Nile to the Euphrates. However, Allah granted your sons the Mujahedeen by standing firm before the strongest crusaders attack to the Islamic land. They stood strong against this attack for over three years, disbursing their soles and their wealth. They stood against this massive military, media, and economical attack not for anything except to defend you, your religion, your sons, and your honor. Allah dispersed the enemies’ gathering and their defeat became clearer to who ever has eyesight and prudent heart. Here are your sons, by the grace of Allah, indulging into one battle after another, and attack after attack; they by the will of Allah hold the upper hand in the battle field now.
If it wasn’t for the continuous and ongoing media muting, you would’ve seen the astonishing. By Allah it’s the championships and the victories coming to us, and you my nation should thank Allah for this great bounty, that Allah prepared a group of your sons the Mujahedeen defending you and protecting your honor, otherwise the Sunnah in Iraq would’ve been in between a revulsion crusade and a betraying Shiite. And the women of the Sunnah would’ve been on the laps of the revulsion crusades and the betraying Shiites; Abu Ghraib and the interior ministry jails remain memorable.
My treasured nation, We are in Iraq a stone throw from the Masjed Alaqsa, we fight in Iraq and our eyes are on Alqsa which will never be freed except with a guiding Quraan and a prevailing sword; “but enough is thy Lord to guide and to help” (Alforqan:31)
The history and experience had showed that you have no one after Allah except your Mujahedeen sons; they are your protection, your strong shield, and your beating heart. They become happy to your happiness and sad to your sadness; they stay up all night for your protection and have jealousy for you. Their hearts burst in sorrow for your state, and their tongues never stop chanting: O’ Allah elevate the state of humiliation and defeat away from my nation, O’ Allah bring back victory to my nation.
As for the American administration, and to its chairman the cross banner’s holder Bush, we say to him and to whoever is swimming in his space from the Jews and the crusades and form the Shiites and others, we say that you will never be safe in the Islamic land, and by Allah you will never feel secured so long we still have a beating nerve and a moving eyelash. Previously, our leader Osama Bin Laden may Allah protect him, had offered you a long truce. It could’ve been better for you and those who are with you if you’d have accepted, but your arrogance pushed you to refuse. Here you are today, running from east to west trying to find solutions “will not stand except as stands one whom the evil one by his touch hath driven to madness” (Albaqarah:275). You turned to be a grave liar, betraying your own people that everything is under control, and then soon everyone finds out about your lies and so on. You became like the one who’s treating himself from alcohol by alcohol. You were never at any time truthful with yourself or your people, although it’s found some truth in your great grandparents you are fully detached from. Why don’t you show the truth about your soldiers and their inferior state of struggle? Why don’t you tell your people about the continuous suicides amongst your soldiers? Why don’t you tell your people that your soldiers can never go to sleep unless they take the hallucinating and drugging pills? So they become like cattle driven by your war generals, the Neozionists, to the killing fate. Why don’t you tell your people about the congregational escape and the defiance among your troops?
Listen you grave liar and insolent one; your dreams will never come true, our blood and bodies are between you and your imaginings. And what is coming your way is much greater than what passed by the will of Allah.
The game of rotten democracy that you brought to Iraq, after you gave hope to people about freedom, happiness, and the economical/personal security; all of these lies went with the winds and will never come back by the will of Allah.
There we see you today, trying with all what you got to bring together the clusters, the parties, the partners from your tails to bring about a handicapped government that it might pull you out from your crucial pitfall.
We believe that any government you place in Iraq, whether be it from the betrayal Shiites or Zionist Kurds, or your tails from the Sunnah; it will only be an apostate government that will aid the crusades, and it came only to be a poisoned dagger stabbed in the heart of the Islamic Nation.
America learned today that its planes, tanks, momentous troops, and its tails from the Shiites army will never be able to finalize the battle with Mujahedeen. Therefore, it’s trying to surround the Jehad by pushing its tails from those who are counted to Sunnah, those who accepted to play the role and be a rope that tightens around the Sunnah’s necks and pull the Americans from their defeat. They used those who use the Islamic slogans as a mask to spread their masters’ propaganda on the importance of organizing the military and the police, and confuse the Muslims with their mixed messages injecting poison in honey, forgetting intentionally or not that every occupier through out history used a cover up face from the occupied to use them in order to establish a solid base and embezzle the wealth of the country and its people. Allah has said: “And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them” (5:51) That is by constituting for this life and the hereafter. And Allah has said: “for Pharaoh and Haman and (all) their hosts were Men of sin” (28:8)
Therefore, we repeat our warning to whoever is trying to reorganize and spread the military and the police forces, which was established only to be a tool for the occupier in their bigger plan, and to implement laws other than the law of Allah. Be extremely aware, those who join these apostate forces have nothing with us except the sharp swords, and between them and us will be nothing except grave days and nights. Allah has said;” Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan” (4:76)
Having said the previous, and having mentioned the defeat of the enemy and his paraphernalia. The enemy is trying today to seduce two kinds of people to the alleged parliamentary game to harvest the fruits of the Mujahedeen whom only trying to make the word of Allah prevails. The first kind of which is the one trying to attach oneself with the Mujahedeen, although they never lived the Mujahedeen life nor they ever supported them at the occupation time. The second of which is those who had at the beginning the honor of fighting the crusades, however what counts is the end; their efforts won’t be accepted by the law of Islam unless they strive with action to make the word of Allah prevails, using what Allah lawfully guided us with, the clean means, not by using evil parliaments striving to have the word of Allah mixed with other man made constitutions and laws. The aim does not justify the means here. Although these two kinds, and whoever follows their footsteps, allege that they are trying with these parliaments to implement the law of Allah. However, the actions and the historical experiences oppose their myth. Anyone that is following the political map in Iraq knows that the majority of the parliaments’ members are from the Shiites and the atheists of Kurds and Sunnah, not to mention those of the mixed motion believes. Therefore, the heavy side in the balance of the parliaments will always be in the hand of evil. Allah has said: “beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee” (5:49)
And Allah has said: “Fast thou not turned thy vision to those who declare that they believe in the revelations that have come to thee and to those before thee? their (real) wish is to resort together for judgment (in their disputes) to the evil one, though they were ordered to reject him but Satan\'s wish is to lead them astray far away (from the right” (4:60)
As for you patient truthful Mujahedeen, may Allah accept from you and us the best of deeds, and may Allah bless your Jehad. You were able by the will of Allah and his support to stop this crusades’ attack and you’ve bounded him with injuries. Thus, continue your Jehad and operations, and elevate your hits, it’s only the sign of victory and it’s the last breath of the cross worshipers in the land of two rivers. The low fighting self-esteem of the crusades’ soldiers is an only obvious sign in Iraq. Therefore, renew your intentions, and correct yourselves, and carry on together against your enemy. Your enemy is uncovered, by the will of Allah, weakened, unprotected, and broken in pieces. Do not give him a chance to take its breath, continue your stabbings one after the other, O’ Banner’s holders stand, Where’s are the lions of Anbar? Where are the lions of Salah Aldeen? Where are Baghdad’s men? Where are the knights of Ninawah and the champions of Dyalah? Where are the courageous of Kurdustan? Where are you the lions of Monotheism? O’ siblings of Khaled and Muthananh, Saad and Meqdad and Salah Aldeen. Where are the immigrants? Where are the supporters? Where are the people of Surat Altawbah and Alanfal? Where are the people of Alfath and Alqital?
O’ leaders of this nation; who is for the crying women, who is for the jailed dignified women, who is for the purified women in the jails of the Shiites. O’ Allah, there is no life except the life of the hereafter, O’ Allah grant victory to immigrants and their supporters.
Be very aware from the embezzlers, with their masters the crusades, trying to surround you. Be aware and extremely aware from putting down your weapons, and then you will harvest nothing but the defeat, beat and crush in this life and the hereafter. You were always supplicating to Allah day and night to ease the way for you to join the Jehad in Afghanistan and Chechnya or other places. After that, Allah chose you for the trade of Jehad at your own land, and opened for you the doors of paradise. Be extremely aware of closing these blessed doors, be aware “And be not like a woman who breaks into untwisted strands the yarn which she has spun, after it has become strong”(16:92)
Do not let the trade of Jehad depart your land; otherwise you will be disgraced and you’ll be only ruled by the scum; “they set you hard tasks and punishments, slaughtered your sons and let your women folk live” (2:49)
“If ye turn back (from the Path), He will substitute in your stead another people; then they would not be like you” (47:38)
Finally, I glad tied the nation by establishing the Mujahedeen Shura Council of Iraq, which will be by the grace and will of Allah as the kernel for the establishment of an Islamic State, in which, the word of Allah prevails. All praise be to Allah, the efforts are being joined, and the hands are being extended and shaken for the obedience of Allah and his messenger and the Jehad in the cause of Allah. And this Council will be, by the will of Allah, an umbrella for every truthful Mujahed. I am honored to be one member of this blessed Council under its blessed leadership. At the same time remaining the Ameer ( leader) of the Alqaeda Organization in the land of two rivers ( Iraq).
The servant of Jehad and Mujahedeen, glorifying Allah, your brother Abu Musaab Alzarqawi. Friday, 23 Rabii Awal 1427, April 21, 2006.
All praise be to Allah.
(Anasheed)
(One of the commanders in Anbar speaking)
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful, and peace be upon our prophet Muhammad his family and companions.
I welcome our beloved sheikh in the land of Anbar, the land of Jehad. And we ask Allah to keep it a thorn in the eyes of the disbelievers.
I would like to inform about the great victory in the battles of Ramadi, killing many of the disbelievers and taking over the center and headquarter of the infidels. Taking over the city for several days, preventing the crusades from even coming near it. And this operation was a clear message against the visit by the infidels’ ambassadors ( Rice and Straw). In general, the self esteem of the Mujahedeen is high, in opposite to the infidels whom are always in continuous deterioration.
As for the developing and manufacturing, the brothers, by the grace of Allah have developed and improved two missiles in Alanbar province in particular. , that will be used soon, one has the ability to travel 40km with a 50kg warhead, here’s a picture of it…
Then fight in Allah\'s cause thou are held responsible only for thyself and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the disbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment (Alnisa’a:84)
And the other is anti armored vehicles, is carried on the shoulder and has been internally modified to penetrate armored vehicles, and here’s a picture of it.
(Anasheed)
فبما رحمة من الله لنت لهم ولو كنت فظا غليظ القلب لانفضوا من حولك فاعف عنهم واستغفر لهم وشاورهم في الأمر فإذا عزمت فتوكل على الله إن الله يحب المتوكلين}
“It is part of the mercy of Allah that dost deal gently with them. Wert thou severe or harsh hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (their faults), and ask for (Allah\'s) forgiveness them in affairs (of moment). Then when thou hast taken a decision, put thy trust in Allah. For Allah loves those who put their trust (in him” (3:159)
{إن ينصركم الله فلا غالب لكم وإن يخذلكم فمن ذا الذي ينصركم من بعده وعلى الله فليتوكل المؤمنون} If Allah helps you, non can overcome you: if he forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in God, then, let believers put their trust (3:160)
Sheikh Ayman Alzahahre’s voice: O’ Islamic Nation, the turf of Iraq now is the most dangerous field of Jehad in this century. Therefore, the nation must support the courageous Mujahedeen that are fighting in the very forefront defending the honor of Islam and its dignity.
(Anasheed)
Sheikh Abu Musaab: by Allah, American will be defeated in Iraq, by the will of Allah, and it’ll leave Iraq humiliated, crushed, and defeated by the will of Allah.
Do not forget us from your supplications.
Your brothers in the Media Committee. __________________ http://www.w-n-n.com/showthread.php?t=12069
Zarqawi tribe
[edit]Zarqawi tribe In Jordan more one million
Sometime in 2001, Zarqawi was arrested in Jordan but was soon released. He was later convicted in absentia and sentenced to death for plotting the attack on the Radisson SAS Hotel
[edit]His arrest in 2001 is merely an allegation and there are no contemporary press accounts of this arrest and release, and no signs of a trial (source http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_188&scale=1#complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_188). His link to the attack on the Radisson comes from an Associated Press article from 4 April 2001 which stated that Jordanian officials had two new suspects for the bombing of the Radisson (see Flat Earth News by Nick Davies) but the Jordanians had already tried 28 people and sentenced 6 of them to death 7 months before this press release and Zarqawi wasn't mentioned once. He was convicted in absentia but to 15 years in prison, not death.
The training camp specialized in poisons and explosives
[edit]This is directly contradicted by Luke Harding of the Observer who reached the camp and reported "The terrorist factory was nothing of the kind - more a dilapidated collection of concrete outbuildings at the foot of a grassy, sloping hill. Behind the barbed wire and a courtyard strewn with broken rocket parts, are a few empty concrete houses. There is a bakery. There is no sign of chemical weapons anywhere." ... Harding concludes that Powell's allegation is "clearly little more than cheap hyperbole". (source http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/09/iraq1). Troops went to this site after the invasion of Iraq and found nothing but old rat poison.
Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2023
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Can we update the photo of this terrorist to his wanted poster? The poster has the current pic as well as two of his disguises, http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/msnbc/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss_060608_zarqawi_/ss_060608_Zarqawi_07.jpg Long2181998 (talk) 03:36, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: The current image is more relevant than the one you provide - the lead image in a biography should be only an image of the subject. Tollens (talk) 03:54, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- I mean this is literally the current image of the subject in addition to his disguises to evade prosecutions? Idk how the current image is better when the new image has both the current image + latest updates? Long2181998 (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't an image of him, it's an image of a poster. Per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE,
Images should look like what they are meant to illustrate
- he does not look like a poster. Tollens (talk) 18:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't an image of him, it's an image of a poster. Per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE,
- I mean this is literally the current image of the subject in addition to his disguises to evade prosecutions? Idk how the current image is better when the new image has both the current image + latest updates? Long2181998 (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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B403 Civil Affairs, CAT from Al Kisik interpreter got the first call on where Zarqāwī and his family where located Ejoseph234 (talk) 06:01, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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Zarqāwī was first reported to us forces from CAT B403 interpreter from AL Kisik Ejoseph234 (talk) 06:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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