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==Some proposed changes== |
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== Regarding cleanup == |
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Though I was not the one who put the cleanup template up, I'm going to put my view out there on why it should still be there today: I think that since the day the cleanup template was added, the article has improved a good deal—However, the main thing wrong with it now is that it's not substantial enough. I'd say that we could use '''more info on here about the operation and specifics of the card network itself''' and maybe its history instead of just corporate stats (Board, Advertising, latest marketing gimmicks, etc). Basically, this section: [[VISA (credit_card)#Features of the standard product]] of the [[VISA (credit card)|VISA]] article is an excellent example of what we need here. (Except that that one needs to be wikified. But the content's good.) Anyone else have any opinions on how this article can be improved, or have some content to contribute? |
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—[[User:Daniel Pritchard|Dan]] 03:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC) |
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What happened to the ATM lawsuit from 2011? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.150.41.206|83.150.41.206]] ([[User talk:83.150.41.206#top|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: I added a stub on BankNet and will try to expand it to include more about the technology backbone, but I need to research some first. I'll probably do the same for VisaNet, but I've worked more with MasterCard myself... [[User:NathanBeach|<span style="color:#08457E"><font face="courier">--nathanbeach</font></span>]] 20:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Information to be added or removed: At the end of the Prepaid debit cards section please add – Similar multi-currency card programmes are used by fintech companies like Centtrip, Caxton and Metro Bank, utilising Mastercard’s credibility and global acceptance. |
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: I fixed the stub on Banknet <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/70.133.174.100|70.133.174.100]] ([[User talk:70.133.174.100|talk]]) 04:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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Explanation of issue: Mastercard supports multi-currency prepaid debit cards for many companies, their leadership here should be expanded upon. |
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: I removed the Cleanup tag. If someone feels it needs to be re-added go ahead, but its been in place since June 06 without a single comment from July of the same year. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.142.39.30|68.142.39.30]] ([[User talk:68.142.39.30|talk]]) 04:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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References supporting change: .<ref>{{cite web |last1=Christie |first1=Sophie |title=Is this holiday money card better than all the rest? |url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/money-saving-tips/11707631/Is-this-holiday-money-card-better-than-all-the-rest.html |website=The Telegraph |publisher=Telegraph Media Group Limited |accessdate=24 January 2019}}</ref> |
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== IPO == |
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As you know MC had its IPO a few days ago, I updated the article to semi reflect it but it needs work, a lot of work -- [[User:Tawker|Tawker]] 06:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC) |
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[[User:Danainlondon|Danainlondon]] ([[User talk:Danainlondon|talk]]) 10:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC) |
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I'll try to get MasterCard to provide some more information to the site. |
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When was "Master Charge" created by the United California Bank? - [[User:Jerryseinfeld|Jerryseinfeld]] 16:58, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC) |
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*Per [[WP:BALASP]]. |
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Regards, '''<span style="font-size:75%;border:2px solid #EF2B2D;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;"> Spintendo </span>]]</span>''' 12:32, 5 February 2019 (UTC) |
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== Total amount of transactions == |
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:The four banks (UCB, Wells, Crocker, and Bank of California) joined together to issue this card. They did this to compete with Bank of America. It was really Marine Midland out of Buffalo, New York that helped make Master Charge national. Until that time there were only regional card programs like: Mid-West Card Assiocation and CAP in New England. Master Charge was the early leader in sigining up banks, because banks felt Master Charge was a more open assiocation. Banks did not want to feel that they were promoting Bank of America by issuing a BankAmerica card. It was only after the success of Master Charge that Bank of America spun off BankAmericard into the National BankAmericard Incorperated (NBI). NBI became Visa in 1977. |
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:<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:4.232.9.165|4.232.9.165]] ([[User talk:4.232.9.165|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/4.232.9.165|contribs]]) 23:05, 12 November 2005 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small> |
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It is not written how many card transactions and their total amount that take place yearly. Has to be near 100 billion worth more than $1 trillion yearly? --[[Special:Contributions/37.3.20.164|37.3.20.164]] ([[User talk:37.3.20.164|talk]]) 10:23, 28 August 2021 (UTC) |
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==Exclusive Deals== |
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I think exclusive deals for credit cards like that are becoming more commonplace. There are at least two counterexamples with [[VISA (credit card)|Visa]], but I'm not sure where (or even if) to add these in the article: The [[Olympic Games]] have only accepted Visa for ticket purchases for years; while the NFL's [[New England Patriots]] started taking only Visa last year. Sure it might shut out holders of non-V/MC cards, but is it really "controversial"? [[User:Kirjtc2|Kirjtc2]] 01:13, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC) |
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== Old AfD merge consensus == |
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:What's funny is when these kinds of things happen by accident. For example, thanks to Visa's greed (they insisted on a $20 flat fee on all payments), students can't use Visa cards to pay their student fees. So our school is now MasterCard, American Express, or Discover only, at least when it comes to paying the university. Reference: [http://www.sfsu.edu/~bursar/MainIndex/FAQ.htm#visa] This is actually going on at many [[California State University|CSU]] campuses. —[[User:Daniel Pritchard|Dan]] 23:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC) |
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A couple years ago, [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighterion]], about a subsidiary, ended with a consensus to merge to Mastercard. How exactly should this article be merged in here? Or does the AfD need to be revisited? Thanks, [[User:Oiyarbepsy|Oiyarbepsy]] ([[User talk:Oiyarbepsy|talk]]) 04:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC) |
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==Formulae?== |
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I know that credit cards' numbers must conform to certain restraints (this is how many websites check the validity of credit card numbers). Should details of the constraints be made available on these pages, or is there too much chance the information will be misused? - [[User:Jonon|Jonon]] 11:16, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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:No; I don't think that would really fit in here. I think this: ( [[Credit card number#Checksums]] ) is sufficient. —[[User:Daniel Pritchard|Dan]] 03:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:My apologies, looks like it was merged and the redirect undone by a possible paid editor. I've restored the redirect. [[User:Oiyarbepsy|Oiyarbepsy]] ([[User talk:Oiyarbepsy|talk]]) 04:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC) |
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== Slogan/MasterCard Priceless Ad campaign == |
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== Not work in Iran == |
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The "(object+price)...(object+price)...Priceless!" slogan should be mentioned here... but how to present it? [[User:202.156.2.138|202.156.2.138]] 14:10, 19 May 2005 (UTC) |
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Who can use MasterCard in Iran ? [[User:SepehrMomayezAdel|SepehrMomayezAdel]] ([[User talk:SepehrMomayezAdel|talk]]) 23:11, 25 November 2022 (UTC) |
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I think some information about the MasterCard priceless ad campaign (In the format of Item 1: $XX, Item 2: $YY, Item 3: Priceless) should be included as I think it's a big cultural icon and has spawned numerous parodies on the internet. |
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<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:AmritTuladhar|AmritTuladhar]] ([[User talk:AmritTuladhar|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AmritTuladhar|contribs]]) 13:06, 26 May 2005 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small> |
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:That level of detail is not needed in the infobox, and the word 'Worldwide' does not mean 'every single place in the world'. There's no place to use a MasterCard at the north pole, either. But we don't need to list that. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 23:22, 25 November 2022 (UTC) |
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:I agree. Maybe if there is a specific name, there could be a seperate article. [[User:64.111.156.148|64.111.156.148]] 23:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC) |
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== MSCI KLD 400 Social Index == |
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An IP user has been trying to edit war in the fact that Mastercard is included in a certain stock index ([[MSCI KLD 400 Social Index]]) and sourcing it to an index fund promotional page at Blackrock. Given the Blackrock is both a company listed on the index and a seller of a fund based on that index, they are not an independent third party... and even if they were, this is database information from them, which thus shows no sign of significance. I am (again) undoing the insertion; if it is to be included, consensus should be found first. -- [[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 16:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Controversy? == |
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:I'm trying to assume good faith - but I just can't. It's the classic case of moving the goalposts every time. The category is completely uncontentious - very clearly defined, etc. First the category is removed as "unsourced". Then a source is added, and it gets removed as "promotional". Then an independent source is added, but removed as "a sales page". Will you ever stop or am I just pissing into the wind here? |
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Why does the controversy section get such prominence in this article? MasterCard rightfully suing some twisted prankster is hardly one of the most important pieces of information there is to know about this large and important organization that there is to know. This article is not objective, too much credence is given to conspiracy theory style EFF thinking. |
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:<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:70.112.182.147|70.112.182.147]] ([[User talk:70.112.182.147|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.112.182.147|contribs]]) 20:56, 30 November 2005 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small> |
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:A simple Google search turns up pages of results, from all the usual players (MSCI, FT, Yahoo, etc). I'm not going to attempt to read your mind. What you're now going to do is '''SPECIFY EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF LINK YOU WILL DEEM PERMISSABLE'''. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/213.78.190.234|213.78.190.234]] ([[User talk:213.78.190.234#top|talk]]) 20:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Are you kidding me? Mastercard cowing to State Department pressure will be the only footnote in history that even references mastercard. It is major major event and is being covered by all news orgs. |
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::The category is clearly not "uncontentious" -- at the moment, [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_17#Category:Companies_in_the_MSCI_KLD_400_Social_Index|the discussion on deleting that category]] has four editors weighing in, and all three of the ones who are not you are seeing it as a category that should be deleted. You are acting as if you've tried source after source, but in every edit here, it's Blackrock. The sort of source that we'd be looking for for inclusion is a reliable independent third-party one that focuses on Mastercard and mentions the Index in a way that suggests that the Index is significant in discussing Mastercard. And given that you've now had your attempt to add this information [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mastercard&diff=prev&oldid=1229975826 undone by more than one editor], you should raise your suggestion addition here on the Talk page first and find consensus for its addition before inserting it into the article. |
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[[Special:Contributions/69.173.110.83|69.173.110.83]] ([[User talk:69.173.110.83|talk]]) 15:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC) |
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::Might I also note that making demands of other volunteer editors, even if you do so in all capitals and bold lettering, is not the best way to draw cooperation here. I nicely gave you what you were looking for here as if you'd requested the information politely. Next time, I shall not be so sanguine. |
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== Focus on Litigation & Controversy Equals A Poor Article == |
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::I will also note in response to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mastercard&diff=prev&oldid=1229975544 your edit comment] that my reversions are actually already indicating an alternative... said alternative being to not mention this information. That's an alternative that this article has survived with for many years now. -- [[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 20:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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It appears that the author of the article was in a rush to point out each and every one of Mastercard's legal disputes (almost the entire aritcle) while at the same time, there's very little information about the history and operation of the credit card company. While a trimmed down paragraph on legal issues is appropriate (with citations), it should be within the context of a well rounded article. One can see how weak this article is when comparing it to the articles on American Express or Discover Card. NPOV was added and than removed after paragraphs were edited. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:24.27.210.84|24.27.210.84]] ([[User talk:24.27.210.84|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.27.210.84|contribs]]) 08:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small> |
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:The best way to make the article mor [[WP:NPOV|NPOV]] is to add more non-critical content. [[User:Arsenikk|Arsenikk]] 12:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Year problem == |
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"This series of ads started in 1998 and there are numerous different ads. [http://www.priceless.com/film/film.html] It was created by [[McCann-Erickson]]. MasterCard actually registered ''Priceless'' as a trademark. [http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=staabl.4.83] Actor [[Billy Crudup]] has been the voice of the ads since 1997." |
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So, erm...did the ads start in 1997, or 1998? [[User:BillyH|Billy]][[User talk:BillyH|H]] 00:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== RPS/RPPS == |
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I wonder if any mention could be made of MasterCard's RPPS system (formerly RPS), used for online bill payment services. I used to work for an online banking service, and use of this RPPS system was, from what I could tell, rather widespread. |
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Some info here - [http://www.mastercardintl.com/rpps/] |
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- Mike L - 10 Aug 2006 |
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== Cashplus == |
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Removed the reference under "See also" as Cashplus is a uk only Mastercard branded-card and should not refernced here |
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:Um.... why not? [[User:Lambertman|Lambertman]] 23:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Because other wise all pre-paid cards should be linked from this site from all aorund the world - Cashplus is NOT unique. However if someone wants to add every MasterCard branded product on Wikipedia to this from all the banking providers - go ahead. |
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If you looko at the "see also" it lists all of the various other major card issuers - ie Visa, Cirrus etc etc - Cashplus is a Mastercard - no need for sperate entry |
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:Actually, Cirrus and Maestro are owned by MasterCard. Their VISA equivalent are Plus and VISA Electron respectively. Now, on the other hand, I do think [[Cashplus]] should get a mention somewhere on the MasterCard page provided it is a product owned and provided by MasterCard, and not a service offered by another bank who simply chose to use MasterCard as opposed to VISA. |
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:-- (<i>[[User:A.szczep|A.szczep]]</i>) 20:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:It IS a service/product by a bank (Broadcastle Bank plc)and not by MasterCard - hence it should not go in. |
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:: In that case I agree it shouldn't be included. |
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:: -- (<i>[[User:A.szczep|A.szczep]]</i>) 17:18, 18 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==Peyton Manning== |
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For what it's worth, the paragraph involving Peyton Manning in the advertising, which at the moment reads like this ''Currently, Indianapolis Colts Quarterback Peyton Manning, is doing some of His Life moments using Mastercard and incorporating football in his routine. (ex. Manning buys a cappucino and a man is sprayed in the face with steam, then at the end of the commercial, he asks "Are you okay, just put some dirt on it, and the man gives him a thumbs up, two movers dropping a $3000 dollar piano and Manning saying "They aren't saying BOOOO!!, they are saying MOOOVERS!!.)'' makes no sense to someone who hasn't seen the advertisement(s). I have no concept of how many commercials this is talking about, what happens in them, nor how they advertise MasterCard. [[User:LindsayH|Lindsay]] 07:05, 31 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== nonprofit? not-for-profit? == |
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I read that mastercard has (had?) some kind of tax break because they registered as a non-profit/not-for-profit entity. |
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Any info on this? |
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Is it a 501(c)(4)? |
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Other? |
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http://www.irs.gov/charities/nonprofits/content/0,,id=132157,00.html |
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http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96184,00.html - [[Special:Contributions/199.184.238.232|199.184.238.232]] ([[User talk:199.184.238.232|talk]]) 16:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== World Signia == |
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No mention of world signia card series? Bad. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.140.231.97|85.140.231.97]] ([[User talk:85.140.231.97|talk]]) 22:06, 30 October 2008 </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP2 --> |
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:This is a wiki. If there is encyclopedic information missing, feel free to fix it. --[[User:Hro%C3%B0ulf|Hroðulf]] (or Hrothulf) ([[User talk:Hro%C3%B0ulf|Talk]]) 10:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Possible vandalism or original research? == |
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Some anonymous IP user put in an assertion that the original Master Charge program was created by two clowns in Louisville, Kentucky. That sounds quite ridiculous on its face. Kentucky is hardly known for its innovations in anything, let alone financial services (I have several friends from there who are glad to have escaped). I've searched on Google and all the pages that came back appear to be mirrors of this article or paraphrases of it (where people were using Wikipedia as their main research source). There is nothing on MasterCard's site about it originating in Kentucky, either. Unless someone provides a citation soon to a reliable source, I'm purging that garbage. --[[User:Coolcaesar|Coolcaesar]] ([[User talk:Coolcaesar|talk]]) 04:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'm purging that garbage now. --[[User:Coolcaesar|Coolcaesar]] ([[User talk:Coolcaesar|talk]]) 03:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC) |
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::Purged it again. Those Kentucky hillbillies are certainly persistent. Now if they could only direct such persistence to their state's failing economy!--[[User:Coolcaesar|Coolcaesar]] ([[User talk:Coolcaesar|talk]]) 11:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Purged it once again. --[[User:Coolcaesar|Coolcaesar]] ([[User talk:Coolcaesar|talk]]) 14:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::::It's back. Purging it again. --[[User:Coolcaesar|Coolcaesar]] ([[User talk:Coolcaesar|talk]]) 05:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC) |
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== the edit made by the person from 74.71.95.67 without a user account == |
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1-I disagree with your reasoning as to why you deleted my edit. The CEO of a major international company -- that almost every consumer interacts with (via debit or credit card use) on a daily basis -- talking about the next year's strategic direction of the company *IS INDEED* newsworthy. |
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2-I noticed several mispellings in your reason comment. |
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3-I noticed that you are not a Wikipedia user. It only shows your IP address. If a user account with a long time of Wiki editing experience had a problem with my edit, I would consider it more carefully. But I do not know anything about your editing experience (you don't even have a Wikipedia account). |
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Therefore, I am pressing "Undo" on your edit. Please register a username if you'd like to further discuss this issue. |
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Thank you, |
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[[User:Guinnessjerry44|Guinnessjerry44]] ([[User talk:Guinnessjerry44|talk]]) 21:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC) |
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== Possible Mistake? == |
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This article says that MasterCard is listed on the [[Dow Jones Industrial Average]]. However, I can not find any proof that it is listed on there. The [http://www.djaverages.com/?go=industrial-components Dow Jones Website] and [http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/?iid=C_MT_Index&page=1 Cnn Money] both don't list it, so should I change this? |
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Thanks, [[User:Horai 551|<font color="#4B088A">'''Horai'''</font>]] [[User talk:Horai 551|''551'']] 02:43, 12 October 2013 (UTC) |
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:Changed it. I can't find any proof that it is or it was listed on the Dow Jones Industrial Average. [[User:Horai 551|<font color="#4B088A">'''Horai'''</font>]] [[User talk:Horai 551|''551'']] 08:56, 27 October 2013 (UTC) |
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What happened to the ATM lawsuit from 2011? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.150.41.206 (talk) 21:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Information to be added or removed: At the end of the Prepaid debit cards section please add – Similar multi-currency card programmes are used by fintech companies like Centtrip, Caxton and Metro Bank, utilising Mastercard’s credibility and global acceptance.
Explanation of issue: Mastercard supports multi-currency prepaid debit cards for many companies, their leadership here should be expanded upon.
References supporting change: .[1]
Danainlondon (talk) 10:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Christie, Sophie. "Is this holiday money card better than all the rest?". The Telegraph. Telegraph Media Group Limited. Retrieved 24 January 2019.
Reply 5-FEB-2019
[edit]- Per WP:BALASP.
Regards, Spintendo 12:32, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Total amount of transactions
[edit]It is not written how many card transactions and their total amount that take place yearly. Has to be near 100 billion worth more than $1 trillion yearly? --37.3.20.164 (talk) 10:23, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Old AfD merge consensus
[edit]A couple years ago, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighterion, about a subsidiary, ended with a consensus to merge to Mastercard. How exactly should this article be merged in here? Or does the AfD need to be revisited? Thanks, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- My apologies, looks like it was merged and the redirect undone by a possible paid editor. I've restored the redirect. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Not work in Iran
[edit]Who can use MasterCard in Iran ? SepehrMomayezAdel (talk) 23:11, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- That level of detail is not needed in the infobox, and the word 'Worldwide' does not mean 'every single place in the world'. There's no place to use a MasterCard at the north pole, either. But we don't need to list that. MrOllie (talk) 23:22, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
MSCI KLD 400 Social Index
[edit]An IP user has been trying to edit war in the fact that Mastercard is included in a certain stock index (MSCI KLD 400 Social Index) and sourcing it to an index fund promotional page at Blackrock. Given the Blackrock is both a company listed on the index and a seller of a fund based on that index, they are not an independent third party... and even if they were, this is database information from them, which thus shows no sign of significance. I am (again) undoing the insertion; if it is to be included, consensus should be found first. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 16:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to assume good faith - but I just can't. It's the classic case of moving the goalposts every time. The category is completely uncontentious - very clearly defined, etc. First the category is removed as "unsourced". Then a source is added, and it gets removed as "promotional". Then an independent source is added, but removed as "a sales page". Will you ever stop or am I just pissing into the wind here?
- A simple Google search turns up pages of results, from all the usual players (MSCI, FT, Yahoo, etc). I'm not going to attempt to read your mind. What you're now going to do is SPECIFY EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF LINK YOU WILL DEEM PERMISSABLE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.190.234 (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- The category is clearly not "uncontentious" -- at the moment, the discussion on deleting that category has four editors weighing in, and all three of the ones who are not you are seeing it as a category that should be deleted. You are acting as if you've tried source after source, but in every edit here, it's Blackrock. The sort of source that we'd be looking for for inclusion is a reliable independent third-party one that focuses on Mastercard and mentions the Index in a way that suggests that the Index is significant in discussing Mastercard. And given that you've now had your attempt to add this information undone by more than one editor, you should raise your suggestion addition here on the Talk page first and find consensus for its addition before inserting it into the article.
- Might I also note that making demands of other volunteer editors, even if you do so in all capitals and bold lettering, is not the best way to draw cooperation here. I nicely gave you what you were looking for here as if you'd requested the information politely. Next time, I shall not be so sanguine.
- I will also note in response to your edit comment that my reversions are actually already indicating an alternative... said alternative being to not mention this information. That's an alternative that this article has survived with for many years now. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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