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= June 22 =
= December 13 =


== Small question about sourcing release dates ==
== spooky cargo ==


Hello, I apologize if this is the wrong spot to ask this. I'm currently doing the "suggested edits" from my own home page, to try and gain a bit more practical editing experience, and the first I got was [[Superhero film]].
Early in ''[[Mission of the Shark: The Saga of the U.S.S. Indianapolis]]'', a commander was pointing out something to Capt. [[Charles Butler McVay III]]. The commander pointed out it was kind of spooky seeing a secretive gray wooden crate securely fastened to the deck. What could be spooky about a secretive gray wooden crate?[[Special:Contributions/142.255.103.121|142.255.103.121]] ([[User talk:142.255.103.121|talk]]) 05:14, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


A lot of the "citation needed" templates seem to be concerning justifying the release dates of each work; right now, I'm looking e.g. at {{tq|"The following year, the sequel titled ''Ultraman Zearth 2: Superhuman Big Battle - Light and Shadow'' premiered."}} from the "'''1978–1998: Rising popularity with ''Superman'', ''Kamen Rider'', ''Batman'', and ''Ultraman Zearth'''''" section, and I'm wondering what's the best practice to source this kind of thing.
:According to [[USS Indianapolis (CA-35)]], it was carrying enriched uranium to Tinian for the Little Boy atomic bomb. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] ([[User talk:Adam Bishop|talk]]) 10:36, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


I'm assuming that, per [[WP:IMDB]], that website (which on my personal time would be the first source I look at for release dates) doesn't work because it's [[WP:USERGENERATED|USERGENERATED]]; so, where else should I be looking?
::Yes, and during WW2 any secretive crate being sent to the front under guard could be reasonably assumed to be a powerful weapon. Small, mysterious, powerful weapons are spooky. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 13:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


Thank you for any help! [[User:NewBorders|NewBorders]] ([[User talk:NewBorders|talk]]) 17:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== what game is this from? ==


:Two sources for the year 1997: [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ultraman_zearth_2 Rotten Tomatoes], [https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/ultraman-zearth-2/umc.cmc.2ilkr8c5n28b1hrz9nqctmfuh Apple TV+]. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 18:57, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
OK, it says in the description Star Fox 2 SNES but that's cancelled and no human chars.. O.o
::Hmm - I would normally be okay with Rotten Tomatoes, but [[WP:ROTTENTOMATOES]] does also state that {{tq|"There is consensus that Rotten Tomatoes should not be used for biographical information, cast and crew data, or other film and television data, as it is sourced from user-generated and user-provided content with a lack of oversight and verification."}}
::Should I just use Apple TV and be done with it, then? Or do you think RT, in this case, is fine despite the above? [[User:NewBorders|NewBorders]] ([[User talk:NewBorders|talk]]) 20:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:::[https://www.roku.com/whats-on/movies/ultraman-zearth-2?id=2be18e6bd97c585f97b75e2045866f1e Roku], not listed at [[WP:RSP]], also has 1997. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 15:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks again for your help! I think I'll try using the two you mentioned that aren't at RSP, then.
::::Anyway, if editors looking at the page in the future find issue with these sources, they can always discuss on the talk page, or at [[WP:RSN]]. Or better yet, add more reliable sourcing. [[User:NewBorders|NewBorders]] ([[User talk:NewBorders|talk]]) 17:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 15 =
and where can you dress them up like that?? and would they be playABLE?
[[Special:Contributions/31.209.150.192|31.209.150.192]] ([[User talk:31.209.150.192|talk]]) 21:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


== BBC Sunday-Night Play DVD ==
: Looks like you've left out an important part of the question. —[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 22:00, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
::<small>Then I guess the answer is the guessing game. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 06:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)</small>


[[BBC Sunday-Night Play]] was a British tv series which air on the [[BBC Television]] from 1960-1963. A very short amount of the episodes have survived and I've been trying to find out if any of the surviving episodes have ever been released on DVD. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 14:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
oh yes. I'm really sorry, I must have forgotten the link.. lol, stupid me! >.<
http://kodaik-69.deviantart.com/art/7-Fay-3-462747722 [[Special:Contributions/31.209.150.192|31.209.150.192]] ([[User talk:31.209.150.192|talk]]) 23:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
*Appears to be [[Soul Calibur 3]]. --&mdash; <tt>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></tt> |&nbsp; 07:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


:In the cases (perhaps all of them) where the true answer is "no", it may be hard to demonstrate (though it's not logically ''impossible'' to [[Burden of proof#Proving a negative|prove a negative]], it can be impractically difficult), but it would help to try to find answers if you could list the 15 plays in question, by using the references in the series' article to subtract the 123 listed 'lost' plays (Reference 4) from the list of all 138 of the plays (Reference 1). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 17:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC) [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 17:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
= June 23 =
:You may be able to watch episodes that survive but were never released on DVD at the BFI in London, it has kiosks where you can dial up media. It's normally quite quiet and easy to get a seat, from memory there's no need to register or book in advance. [[User:Blythwood|Blythwood]] ([[User talk:Blythwood|talk]]) 10:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


== regarding the comparative difficulty of Chopin's etudes ==
== Examples of biblical movies with a Jewish or anti-Christian bias? ==


I'm curious: is Op.10 No.1 or Op.10 No.2 commonly considered to be harder?
Are there examples of biblical movies with a Jewish or anti-Christian bias, or just something that does not give Christianity the upper hand in biblical interpretation? Movies that include the New Testament or movies that treat the "Old Testament" as predicting or foreshadowing events of the "New Testament" are typically biased towards Christianity. Are there biblical movies that do not have the assumption of the Christian biblical canon(s)? [[Special:Contributions/140.254.226.182|140.254.226.182]] ([[User talk:140.254.226.182|talk]]) 14:21, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:''[[The Story of Ruth]]'' comes to mind. Also, most any movie about Samson. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 15:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:: What about Book of Ruth (2009) or Book of Esther (2013)? Do they fit? [[Special:Contributions/140.254.226.182|140.254.226.182]] ([[User talk:140.254.226.182|talk]]) 16:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


(I always found Op.10 No.1 much harder, but this is probably because for me stretching beyond an octave hurts.) [[User:Double sharp|Double sharp]] ([[User talk:Double sharp|talk]]) 18:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:There's actually multiple questions here. You're really asking whether there are movies that either:
:*have a Jewish bias,
:*have an anti-Christian bias,
:*do not carry a Christian bias.
:These are distinct concepts. Movies with a Jewish bias may or may not be open to Christian biases (because it's possible to do a movie about the Tanakh/Old Testament that both audiences could get plenty out of, especially since the first Christians were also Jews), and may or may not carry an anti-Christian bias (although since the movie would very likely try to make it to at least discount DVD bins in America, and would be dealing with subject matter from centuries before Jesus was born, it's highly unlikely). Movies with an anti-Christian bias would almost always not carry a Christian bias, but there could be sectarian biases (for example, a movie with a Jehovah's Witness bias could include stuff that gives the finger to more mainstream Christian beliefs, but you could only find those for sale at JW bookstores and websites).
:That said, any Biblical movie you're going to find in America (especially Ohio) is probably not going to have an actual anti-Christian bias. I've heard that the [[Noah (2014 film)|recent Noah flick]] borders on being a Jewish [[Midrash]] (so it could qualify as "having a Jewish bias"), but not a single person can give me any explanation as to how it contradicts Christian belief beyond "that's not how I imagined it in Sunday School when I was four."
:The 2009 movie [[The Book of Ruth: Journey of Faith]] was made by the [[Trinity Broadcasting Network]], and both that and the [[The Book of Esther (film)|2013 movie Book of Esther]] was distributed by [[Pure Flix Entertainment]]. While TBN's very existence tends to offend my sensibilities as a Christian, I cannot deny that they are doing what they believe serves Christ (maybe [[Mammon|Chri$t]] on the side, but they're at least nominally Christian). And while I personally think Pure Flix [[God's Not Dead (film)|insults Christian theology with utter pablum too watered down to even qualify as "spiritual milk"]], I have to begrudgingly admit that they're Christian.
:To teach a man to fish here, look up the article on the films. If we don't have an article on the movie or its distributors, writers, or directors, it's probably from a small Christian company. If the writer, director, and producer aren't all Jewish, it's probably going to have been made with the intention of getting some Sunday School audiences involved; and (if the movie is sold at all in America) it's safe to assume that the movie isn't going to carry an anti-Christian bias (for the same reasons you're not going to see many movies with an anti-Islamic bias go anywhere near Saudi Arabia or Malaysia). [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 16:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
::Okay. So, are there movies that do not favor the Christian interpretation of the Bible worldwide? [[Special:Contributions/140.254.136.160|140.254.136.160]] ([[User talk:140.254.136.160|talk]]) 17:12, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Which Bible? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 17:14, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
::::Any Bible that a Christian would accept as true, authoritative, inerrant, infallible, or inspired. I can't provide a specific answer, because the Bible version may vary across denominations. [[Special:Contributions/140.254.136.160|140.254.136.160]] ([[User talk:140.254.136.160|talk]]) 17:40, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::There's more than one Christian version. And to complicate matters, Jews call the Old Testament "The Bible". ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 18:30, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::Given the charge that it was blasphemous, I suspect ''[[Jesus Christ Superstar]]'' would qualify. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 18:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::In fact pretty much any film that strict religionists label "blasphemous" should qualify. Such as the George Burns ''Oh God'' films. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 12:16, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::: ''[[Monty Python's Life of Brian]]'' attracted a lot of negative (but still worth its weight in gold) publicity from religionists. -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<span style="font-size:85%"><font face="Verdana" ><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></font></span>]] 20:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


: Hard is a somewhat subjective judgement. For me, comparing these two is like comparing one kind of impossible with another. Oh, I can play the notes ok but my speed is ridiculously slow. -- [[User:JackofOz|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Jack of Oz</span>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<span style="font-size:85%; font-family: Verdana;"><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></span>]] 19:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I find those charges against Jesus Christ Superstar very strange. I strikes me as an honest and very mainstream exploration of fairly standard Christian grapplings with the Gospel narrative and faith, dressed up as 1970s counter-culture. [[Special:Contributions/86.129.13.205|86.129.13.205]] ([[User talk:86.129.13.205|talk]]) 21:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
:{{tq|‘Mr. Horowitz, which are the most difficult of the Chopin Etudes?’ — “Ah, all are terrible. [...] For me, the most difficult of all is the C Major, the first one, Op. 10, No. 1. [...] Also, I can’t do the A minor, Op. 10, No. 2. Richter told me he could never do it, either.”}}<sup>[https://books.google.com/books?id=4r54DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA57-IA34&dq=%22For+me,+the+most+difficult+of+all+is+the+C+Major,+the+first+one,+Op.+10,+No.+1.%22&hl=en]</sup> &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 10:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Yeah, Noah actually does favor the Ethiopian Church's canon a touch more than the the Lutheran, come to think of it.
:[https://johnmenadue.com/standard-piano-keys-are-too-wide-for-too-many-but-alternatively-sized-keyboards-are-on-the-way/"Mass production of both grand and upright pianos consolidated a ‘standard’ key size that is too big for most pianists. It took more than 100 years for serious questioning of this situation and, since the 1990s, there has been increasing interest in, and agitation for, providing keyboards that suit more of the piano playing population. Now, a movement advocating narrower key options is providing hope." Rhonda Boyle'', Standard piano keys are too wide for too many. But alternatively sized keyboards are on the way.'' May 20, 2021, (Pearls and Irritations, John Menadue's Public Policy Journal).] [[User:Modocc|Modocc]] ([[User talk:Modocc|talk]]) 23:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I can't recall any OT film that qualifies (especially since I consider [[Messianic Judaism]] to overlap with Christianity), but going New Testament, [[The Messiah (2007 film)]] presents Jesus from Islam's point of view. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 17:22, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
::{{+1}} I think a 7/8-size keyboard would solve my problems indeed.
::{{ec}} So there's the question of the story (is it in the domain of Christianity or Judaism) and there's the perspective on the story. I can't say I've seen any movie about a Jewish story that was anti-Christian, and you didn't ask for Christian stories biased against Judaism. [[The Ten Commandments (1956 film)]] is one of the better known titles that applies to both, but was also praised by both. As noted above, [[Noah (2014 film)]] has been somewhat controversial because it received so much press implying it would be the familiar Christian version of the story, but Aronofsky specifically said he pulled from multiple sources and modeled it after other versions more heavily (I think there was a quote like "it's the lest biblical movie ever made" or something, in response to probes on the issue). The area that's left is anti-Christian Christian stories. Though people will disagree whether many of these are ''anti-''Christian, I think most come by way of satire/parody, like [[Monty Python's Life of Brian]], [[Dogma (film)]]. Then there are those that tell versions of biblical stories in serious ways that upset Christians (I'm thinking in particular of [[Last Temptation of Christ (film)]] and, to a lesser extent [[Jesus of Nazareth (miniseries)]]). You may want to peruse [[:Category:Films about religion]], [[:Category:Films based on the Bible]], [[List of films based on the Bible]], [[:Category:Films critical of religion]], and/or [[:Category:Religious comedy films]]. --&mdash; <tt>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></tt> |&nbsp; 17:29, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
::I wonder if Chopin's keyboard was also smaller than the modern standard. Bar 31 of Op.10/1 (with an F7 arpeggio fingered 1245 for C-E{{music|b}}-A-E{{music|b}}) seems like it would require absolutely huge hands on a standard keyboard. :) [[User:Double sharp|Double sharp]] ([[User talk:Double sharp|talk]]) 05:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::<small>Yeah, you're not far off about disagreements over the "anti-" bit: my mom, a Baptist minister's daughter, quite enjoyed Dogma; and I was able to get more than one teen and twenty something to have a higher view of Christian belief (though not churches) thanks to that movie. I've also cited Monty Python in discussions on Roman Judean politics. That said,</small> I do have to disagree on the "first few books," remark, as the Tanakh covers more than half of the Christian Bible. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 17:46, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
::::Ack. Brain failure. You're certainly correct. Thanks. Removed it from my previous post. --&mdash; <tt>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></tt> |&nbsp; 18:53, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


= June 24 =
= December 18 =


== White flashes in the 90s music videos ==
== James Gang ==


Apparently in the 1990s and early 2000s there was an international trend of using repeated white flashes for artistic effect in music videos, particularly when shooting indoors, e.g. in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAwX1slv8g&t=16 Tarkan - Şımarık], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQvzRriiWbs&t=21 Philipp Kirkorov - Ogon i voda], etc. (now seemingly less used). Is this effect mentioned/discussed somewhere? [[User:Brandmeister|Brandmeister]]<sup>[[User talk:Brandmeister|talk]]</sup> 19:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Where did [[James Gang]] get their name? The only thing our article says about the name is "Reportedly, it was Silverman who suggested the name James Gang." Thanks, <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 07:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
:The "James Gang" relates to Frank & Jesse James. Note: only historians and Wikipedia refer to the outlaw gang as: "[[James–Younger Gang]]". <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 10:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::And presumably because the group's leader was James (Fox). ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 12:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


== Frog and Toad All Year audiobook ==
Thank you, both. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:20, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


British actor [[Peter Sallis]] narrated an audio cassette tape titled [[Frog and Toad All Year]] which I believe was released in 1976 although being trying to find out if the audio cassette tape is available to buy anywhere. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 21:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
== Ben-Hur and other stuff ==


:The audio CD version (sold together with the book) is listed on Amazon (see [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Frog-Toad-Year-Around-Book/dp/0060786981/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.P0WDjEJVUjiuvcIYGxo8grE4H9g1qdZ8VnMcfh1vS9RZy2qCuBL6WGT2r5JBfTuHhIuorj6aMjIE3ZKwvhqyKcNpdwnazk8nCfNnNsFtfrs.w_hmrIrvIEzXlton18Pf5rTzwFJI3emHCG7OGwTJis4&dib_tag=se&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1734564732&refinements=p_27%3APeter+Sallis&s=books&sr=1-3 here]). Whether this is the Sallis recording or a different narrator is not mentioned. Copies ''might'' crop up on e.g. Ebay or similar 2nd-hand vendors, but cassette tape eventually deteriorates so the playability of one made almost 50 years ago would be iffy. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 23:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Two questions: (1) Did the spinning blades attached to Messala's chariot in ''[[Ben-Hur]]'' inspire the tire-slashers installed on the [[Aston Martin DB5|Bondmobile]] in ''[[Goldfinger]]''? (2) Did the chariot race scene in ''[[Ben-Hur]]'' influence the podracer scene in ''[[The Phantom Menace]]''? [[Special:Contributions/24.5.122.13|24.5.122.13]] ([[User talk:24.5.122.13|talk]]) 23:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
:Googling the general subject, it seems that the Mythbusters guys though so. FYI, in the filmed they refer to Messalla's bladed wheel hubs as a "beaked" chariot. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 00:23, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
::According to [[Star Wars sources and analogues]], the pod race scene was inspired by Ben Hur. But it is unreferenced. --[[User:Jayron32|<font style="color:#000099">Jayron</font>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<font style="color:#009900">32</font>]]''''' 01:35, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Just like I thought. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/24.5.122.13|24.5.122.13]] ([[User talk:24.5.122.13|talk]]) 23:23, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


= December 19 =
: And don't forget [[Grease_(film)]] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsYC-hVEpQM&feature=kp [[Special:Contributions/196.214.78.114|196.214.78.114]] ([[User talk:196.214.78.114|talk]]) 06:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


== Little Bear 1996 Audiobooks ==
::Although almost certainly not used in <s>the ancient world</s> ancient Britain, depictions of scythes-on-wheel-hubs have been around for a while; see [[:File:Boudiccastatue.jpg|Thomas Thornycroft's statue of Boudicca in London]] which was completed in 1905. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 12:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


In 1996 British actor [[Peter Sallis]] narrated two audiobooks those being [[Little Bear (book)|Little Bear]] and Little Bear's Visit and I've been trying to find if any websites that sell it so I can buy it. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 14:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::That statue (and the legend that inspired it) have always been my first association for both the scenes mentioned in (1). [[User:AlexTiefling|AlexTiefling]] ([[User talk:AlexTiefling|talk]]) 12:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


:If any websites sell 'something', they need customers to be able to find them. The 'something' would therefore almost certainly show up in any appropriately-worded web search. If you have web-searched for 'something' and not found it, it's a strong indication that the 'something' is not currently being advertised and/or sold (at least online), either new or (currently) via Ebay and other resale sites. On the latter, of course, ''any'' 2nd-hand item ''might'' show up at any time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I think your claim is reasonable but how do you know? Merely lack of reference to scythe-on-wheel-hubs in <del>contemporary</del> <del> contemporaneous </del> ''ancient'' sources? On the one hand, it seems to gimmicky to be useful in battle (as opposed to battle racing, or whatever you call that scene in the Ben-Hur movie). On the other hand, it seems like a logical thing to try... (p.s. cool statue!) [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 16:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
::::We do have an article [[Scythed chariot]], which traces them back to [[Xenophon]], some 500 years before Ben-Hur's setting. [[User:Tevildo|Tevildo]] ([[User talk:Tevildo|talk]]) 18:14, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::<small>OK, I have amended my statement above with a dollop of humble pie. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 23:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)</small>
::::That's just manly chariot racing. No wimps allowed. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 22:06, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::As Ben-Hur's Arab friend [Sheik Ilderim] put it, "There is no law in the arena - many are killed." {{small|Or was he talking about soccer?}} ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 13:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::Ben-Hur's Arab friend thought that Romans were weird. He thought that a man should have fifty wives and One God. A Roman had one wife at any given time and fifty gods. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 21:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::::I like Sheik Ilderim's idea. There's a price to be paid for having fifty wives, though... It's having fifty ''mothers-in-law''. (Credit to Jay Leno for that one.) ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:49, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


= June 25 =
= December 20 =


== Biggest game between two teams from Indiana ever? ==
== Emergency ==


Any candidates other than this Indiana+ND game? Thanks, [[User:Abeg92|Ab]]<span style="color:#00FF00;">e</span>[[User talk:Abeg92|g92]]<small>[[Special:Contributions/Abeg92|contribs]]</small> 04:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Is [[Emergency (series)]] considered [[real-time strategy]], [[real-time tactics]] or some other genre? [[Special:Contributions/24.5.122.13|24.5.122.13]] ([[User talk:24.5.122.13|talk]]) 23:26, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
:Define "biggest". ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 04:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:According to [[Metacritic]]'s review, it is a "rich mix of gripping real-time strategy game and true-to-life simulation":[http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/emergency-fighters-for-life] &nbsp;—[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 13:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:: <small>"Most big" <small>←[[Special:Contributions/136.56.165.118|136.56.165.118]] ([[User talk:136.56.165.118|talk]]) 15:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)</small></small>
:::: {{Small|Most supercalifragilisticexpialidociously ginormous, of course. What do they teach in school, these days??? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 21:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)}}
:::Most important potential outcome? Largest spectator attendance? Largest combined score? Most hyped in the media? ''We'' cannot know what ''you'' (or the OP, if different) mean by "biggest" (or "most big") unless you define it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== The Moonstone characters that die 1972 ==
= June 26 =
== Charles Schulz lent his aircraft in the capture of a jailbreak? ==


[[The Moonstone]] book appears to have three characters from the book that die and it appears that in the 1972 tv series adaptation less of the characters die so how many of the characters from The Moonstone 1972 tv series adaptation die. Also tell me if I was right saying that three of the characters from [[The Moonstone]] book die and if I was right tell me each character from the book that dies as well. [[User:Matthew John Drummond|Matthew John Drummond]] ([[User talk:Matthew John Drummond|talk]]) 19:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Did anyone else read a story where [[Charles Schulz]] lent his aircraft in the capture of a jailbreak? I can't find anything on it, but I'm sure I read it shortly before his passing.--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 12:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:I can't even find evidence that he owned an aircraft or had a pilot's license; actually, he hated to travel, according to various bios/obits (e.g: [http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1126.html NY Times]). &nbsp;—[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 15:25, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
::All I could find is that there's apparently an airport named for him. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
:::<small>Could it have been a [[Snoopy|decidedly non-standard ultralight]] (vintage World War I)? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 22:09, 27 June 2014 (UTC)</small>
::::However, his second wife, Jean Schulz, was "an airplane pilot who once flew across country in the [[Powder Puff Derby]] with her mother". See [http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Charles-Schulz-s-widow-tends-Peanuts-gallery-3174612.php ''Charles Schulz's widow tends Peanuts gallery'']. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 12:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


:A question better asked on the Italian Wikipedia, since this Italian-language adaptation was made and broadcast in Italy. It's ''possible'' that some responder on this en.Wikipedia Ref desk might be able to find out, but seems to me unlikely. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
== "h o n e y b e l l" by maxo ==
::However, [[The Moonstone (1972 TV series)]] was made by the [[BBC]] in English and subsequently shown in the USA by [[PBS]] (but I don't know the answer). [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 13:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Ah, right. I didn't spot this one, because in [[The Moonstone#Adaptations|The Moonstone#Adaptations]] (where I looked), it's appended to the entry for the 1959 version and thus less noticeable, and the next entry is for the Italian production, which I assumed was the one the OP meant – apologies. Obviously, one would have to both re-read the book (which would take days – it's 450+ pages, nearly 193,000 words) ''and'' watch the DVD to work out the answers to the questions, and I do not possess the latter. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 17:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I have now separated the two BBC versions in our article. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 21 =
Hiya, I've recently become quite obsessed with [https://soundcloud.com/maxoelectronic/h-o-n-e-y-b-e-l-l this sugar rush of a song], but I can't seem to pinpoint the exact genre. What's the actual name for this type of music? I've seen it labelled as "chill trap" before, but that definitely doesn't sound right.. little help? thanks cheers <b>''[[User:HelicopterLlama|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">~Helicopter</span>]] [[User talk:HelicopterLlama|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Llama~</span>]]''</b> 15:06, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


== World Cup yellow cards ==
== [[PEGI]] "Discrimination" ==
If a player gets a yellow card, does it persist for the rest of the tournament or does it reset after X number of games? --[[User:Robert.Labrie|Robert.Labrie]] ([[User talk:Robert.Labrie|talk]]) 16:47, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
: The rules are described at [[2014 FIFA World Cup disciplinary record]], though not very clearly, and without references. Maybe there's something on [http://www.fifa.com/ FIFA]'s website, but I can't see anything obvious. [[User:AndrewWTaylor|AndrewWTaylor]] ([[User talk:AndrewWTaylor|talk]]) 16:59, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
::If memory serves there is a spot where they reset to zero. Perhaps when they enter the round of eight. The rules change from time to time so my info is probably out of date. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]]&#124;[[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 17:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


Have PEGI ever mentioned or otherwise announced why they discontinued their "Discrimination" content descriptor despite?
== World Cup Press Box Question ==


https://pegi.info/en/search-pegi?q=&age%5B%5D=&descriptor%5B%5D=Discrimination
The [[FIFA World Cup]] is broadcast in many languages. Is the press box very large, to accommodate more than a hundred announcer teams, or are many of the languages broadcast "in country" rather than "in host country"? For instance, is the Polish announcer in Brazil, or in Warsaw? Also, the other side to this question is: How many Spanish-speaking announcer teams are there (with 9 Spanish-speaking teams that qualified and other Spanish-speaking countries in which association football is the most popular sport)? Also, was Ghana v. Portugal, which was televised concurrently with US v. Germany, being broadcast live from the stadium by a US announcer? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 19:12, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
:Yes the [[:File:Switzerland and Ecuador match at the FIFA World Cup 2014-06-15 DSC06446 (14243867548).jpg|press boxes are enormous]]. In some stadiums they take up to half an upper tier on one side of the stadium or more. [[User:Nanonic|Nanonic]] ([[User talk:Nanonic|talk]]) 19:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
::Most of the announcers are in the stadium, but not all. For example, in the United States the television broadcasters for [[ESPN]] were at the stadiums in Brazil, but the announcers for [[ESPN Radio]] were at the studios in [[Bristol, Connecticut]]. (This I know because about an hour before one match, one of the announcers was on the set of [[SportsCenter]], then left to go announce the game.) <font face="Century Gothic">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;→&nbsp;[[User:Michael J|Michael&nbsp;J]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Michael J|Ⓣ]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Michael J|Ⓒ]]&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Michael_J|Ⓜ]]</font> 00:02, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


Looking at their database it was only used on five games from 2004 to 2006 which is miniscule [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|talk]]) 02:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
= June 27 =
:https://rating-system.fandom.com/wiki/Discrimination_descriptor [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 06:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


== TV series with theatrical releases during their run ==


= December 29 =
The Simpsons, South Park and the X-files come to mind. I'm thinking of Hollywood films and major adult TV shows, so not like Rugrats or Pokemon films, or even Spongebob. [[User:Mingmingla|Mingmingla]] ([[User talk:Mingmingla|talk]]) 01:22, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:That would be a subset of [[List of films based on television programs]]. Just taking a quick glance, ''[[Batman (TV series)|Batman]]'' and ''[[Dark Shadows]]'' qualify. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:38, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
:{{ec}} [[:Category:Films based on television series]] would be a good place to start your research. One that comes to my mind is ''[[Beavis and Butt-head Do America]]''. --[[User:Jayron32|<font style="color:#000099">Jayron</font>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<font style="color:#009900">32</font>]]''''' 01:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:Also ''[[Dr. Who]]'' and ''[[Dragnet (series)|Dragnet]]''. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 01:43, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:Not exactly the same, but when [[The Three Stooges]] short films were revived on TV in the 1950s, they went back to work, making feature-length movies. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:52, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:TV's version of ''The Lone Ranger'' spun off two theatrical films, one of which was released while the series was still in first-run, the other the year after TV production ceased. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 02:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:Though not an ''[[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]]'' movie, the events of the Avengers and Captain America films figure into the storyline. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:17, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:The [[Stargate]] franchise as a whole might qualify, with both of the post-SG1 movies being released during the TV run of Atlantis, but unfortunately the 3 separate shows don't make the cut individually. [[User:OrganicsLRO|<span style="color:green">Organics</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:OrganicsLRO|<span style="color:blue">LRO</span>]]</sup> 08:34, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:The [[Batman (TV series)|Batman]] series of the 1960s had a [[Batman (1966 film)|theatrical film]] produced primarily to generate interest in the TV show. <font face="Century Gothic">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;→&nbsp;[[User:Michael J|Michael&nbsp;J]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Michael J|Ⓣ]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Michael J|Ⓒ]]&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Michael_J|Ⓜ]]</font> 23:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:[[The Monkees]] released ''[[Head (film)]]'' while ''[[The Monkees (TV series)]]'' was still in 1st-run. &nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 01:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

== Trippy stop motion short film about fighting tooth decay. ==

I hazily recall seeing something where a bunch of walking, talking teeth get mixed up with some bad sugar (in the style of of Clone High's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0LRJNDNvtc Pusher]), then wind up being drilled and mined alive by some sort of evil [[dental plaque|plaque]]-eating race. I think they were called the Sweeties or Sugaries or something like that. The teeth survive, but learn a valuable lesson.

Somebody needs to see that film, and I can't show it. It looked late '70s or early '80s, I think, and was a PSA from some sort of dental association and/or toothpaste. Ring a bell? [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 03:54, [[June 27]], [[2014]] (UTC)
:Not the one where crummies capture kids and take them in their Holesmobile to the planet Cavitar where there is a fiendish plot to make craters "cavities, that is" in ''all'' children's teeth, and where "''No flouride toothpaste – No toothbrushes – No floss – No dentists or dental hygienists – No smiles'' —are allowed. —And Crummy Crater made everything "irresistible" to kids (chocolate trees, etc.) - and they're never allowed to brush their teeth - and, ... [''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17cDm_vGUcU as seen here]''] &nbsp;—No, not trippy enough. <small>What were ''you'' smoking in the late '70s? &nbsp;&nbsp;—[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 03:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)</small>

::No, not nearly trippy enough. Personally, space stuff gets ''more'' boring when I'm high (and I'm more of a Colgate guy). Thanks, anyway. Pretty sure mine was pre-crack epidemic. Looked more like ''[[Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special)|Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]]'' than ''[[Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue]]''.

::I'm not sure I was even smoking Popeye cigarettes yet in those days. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 03:53, [[June 28]], [[2014]] (UTC)

:::There's also the trippy and/or confusing (depending on your state of mind) "cult-classic" (?) Disney-esque [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4pkKz9k1DY ''Winky the Watchman'' - Animated Film (1945)] where the "Baduns" and "Gooduns" do battle in the "white wall" which is your teeth -or something like that. The Baduns are an evil race that have a drilling/mining operation, etc., and the Gooduns have white tanks and airplanes... Luckily, there is a dentist that explains everything at the end. [[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 04:17, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
::::Looks good, skimming through. I'll check it out later. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 04:19, [[June 28]], [[2014]] (UTC)
::::<small>Heh. 4:20. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 04:20, [[June 28]], [[2014]] (UTC) </small>

Well, the someone who had to see it has shown herself the door. You were too late, Help Desk, and now she's probably getting cavities! All good, though. It's a tough one. If anyone still wants to answer, that'd be cool, but it's low priority now. My teeth are beyond salvation and there are plenty of [https://archive.org/details/drugs_are_like_that other good] PSAs out there. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 20:03, [[June 29]], [[2014]] (UTC)

== Is Star Trek really a "global" phenomenon? ==

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen.

I have traveled half the world in my life (South America, North America, Europe, big parts of Asia, some parts of Africa and Australia). I am a big fan of science fiction and often talk to other people about it (this includes of course foreigners as well). During my travels, I recognized, that no one I talked to outside the Western world had ever even heard of Star Trek. I was surprised to see, that even in most European countries I have been, people did not know Star Trek. A man in South Africa told me, that he heard of the show, but that he is unfamiliar with it. My question is, is Star Trek really unknown outside the Western world? Is it really a "global" phenomenon?--[[Special:Contributions/178.195.94.230|178.195.94.230]] ([[User talk:178.195.94.230|talk]]) 09:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:You appear to have answered your own question. Is someone claiming that it is a global anything? Wikipedia doesn't.--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 12:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

typical american who think the world revolves around them, they meet one german star wars fan at a science fiction convention and think all germany like it, when in reality that guy was the odd one out. statistically most people on the earth do not even own a television <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/190.207.198.16|190.207.198.16]] ([[User talk:190.207.198.16|talk]]) 12:40, 27 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Don't be rude, the OP is geolocates to Switzerland. I'm surprised you didn't find people knowing it in Europe, in my experience ST is pretty well known in Europe. Can't comment for out of Europe. [[Special:Contributions/131.251.254.110|131.251.254.110]] ([[User talk:131.251.254.110|talk]]) 13:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
::I was in France in the late 1980s and watched an episode of ''Star Trek'' (TOS) dubbed into French on one of the national TV stations (I think [[FR3]], but not sure). --'''[[User:McDoobAU93|<span style="color:#000080">McDoob</span>]][[User talk:McDoobAU93|<span style="color:#cc5500">AU93</span>]]''' 13:34, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:As I recall from talking to various foreign-born colleagues, most of them knew of Star Trek, but were often more knowledgeable about Star Wars. This could be considered a reflection of the take from those respective film series, as in [[List of highest-grossing films]]. It's important to keep in mind that the Star Trek TV series had a "cult following", which is one reason the original series only lasted three years (and it took a major fan campaign to get that third year). It's a large cult, to be sure, but still a cult. Star Wars is more traditional, like King Arthur set in outer space, and thus has more mainstream appeal. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 13:56, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

True. I was surprised to hear, that even some of the Massai I have met have at the very least heard of "Star Wars". One of them even called himself "The Darth". The only global sci-fi phenomenon seems to be the Star Wars saga (nearly everybody I have ever met knew it). The people in Japan seem to really love it. As for Star Trek: I guess you need a TV to know it. Our friend 190.207.198.16 seems to be right on this one, the Internet is much wider spread than television (it sounds weird, but is the truth according to the article [[Internet]]). And cinemas seem to exist everywhere. The films of Star Trek are even less known, with "Into Darkness" being the very first one that actually generated success overseas (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324102604578493111216214662).--[[Special:Contributions/178.195.94.230|178.195.94.230]] ([[User talk:178.195.94.230|talk]]) 14:34, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:International messages of world peace delivered by multicultural aliens generally fare better with various audiences than the same messages delivered by any who may be perceived by some as "''those'' people". The one thing that unites us all is we have no true prejudice against Klingons or [http://www.museum.tv/eotv/hensonjim.htm Muppets], because we've never met any. There's a subconscious acceptance in us that they have no ulterior motives, since they're so far away from us, but they're just human enough that we still all realize they're not so different from whichever "us" we think we are. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 15:11, [[June 27]], [[2014]] (UTC)

Well spoken!--[[Special:Contributions/178.195.94.230|178.195.94.230]] ([[User talk:178.195.94.230|talk]]) 17:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks. If you'd like to hear it paraphrased, illustrated and sung by a monster, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgk7VCWmHO8 here you go.] [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 04:11, [[June 28]], [[2014]] (UTC)

Thanks a lot! What a great video!--[[Special:Contributions/178.195.94.230|178.195.94.230]] ([[User talk:178.195.94.230|talk]]) 12:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
:It's a great show, for all ages. (That I brought it up had a lot to do with you reminding me of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUOwfbaKRgY Traveling Matt] in your opener.) [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 20:10, [[June 29]], [[2014]] (UTC)

== most successful ==

In the ABBA article it says that they're the most successful group ever to take part in eurovision. This made me wonder who is the most successful individual to take part in eurovision. Is it Celine Dion? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.74.94.106|85.74.94.106]] ([[User talk:85.74.94.106|talk]]) 12:41, 27 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->

:erm... I'm not a fan of Eurovision and all that, but, would [[Nana Mouskouri]] or [[Cliff Richard]] classed as "more successful" than Celine Dion ?<br />
:A quick glance at the respective Wikipedia articles shows claims that Celine Dion has sold "more than 200 million records", Cliff Richard "more than 260 million" and Nana Mouskouri "more than 350 million"...

:However, to quote the Nana Mouskouri's page on Wikipedia itself:
:''Although Nana Mouskouri was presented with a plaque representing 350 million in sales at her final concert at the Royal Albert Hall in 2009 by her record company, the actual figure is uncertain as record sales need to be supported by at least 20% in certified units. She is therefore not included in Wikipedia's list of best selling music artists (a fate she shares with Cliff Richard, Diana Ross, Charles Aznavour, Bing Crosby, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Tom Jones, the Jackson 5, Dionne Warwick, the Andrews Sisters, Luciano Pavarotti and others).''
:16:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

== An animated movie - a time-travelling schoolboy and his <strike> dog </strike> monkey foil a villain ? - SOLVED ==

Can anyone recognise this half-remembered movie ?

It was probably an American movie, and probably a "children's movie", but seen on television in Britain, some time in the late 1970s, possibly *very* early 1980s.

The villain is going back to various points in history, planning to change certain events, so that, erm... something or other.<br />
( I seem to remember the villain being a [[Snidely Whiplash]] -type of character, though that may not be accurate )

One event in particular is the original landfall of erm... Columbus ? or the Mayflower ?

The heroes are a boy and his dog, who follow the villain through time and foil each of his plans in turn.


The film has almost ended.
The villain has been thwarted, and the boy is back in school... with his dog.<br />
The teacher says something like: "here is our guest speaker, Mr so-and-so"<br />


And in walks the villain.
Who declares he has A TIME MACHINE...<br />

and gives a talk about how a camera is a type of time machine, as it can bring the past to life.<br />
( He has apparently reformed and now only wants to do good. )

During this lecture, he's showing a film projection of scenes from earlier in the story...<br />
[[Special:Contributions/90.244.130.169|90.244.130.169]] ([[User talk:90.244.130.169|talk]]) 16:20, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:Sounds like something in the vein of [[Mister Peabody]], but the only theatrical film was [[Mr. Peabody & Sherman|this year]]. Maybe a collection of the original short cartoons, perhaps? --'''[[User:McDoobAU93|<span style="color:#000080">McDoob</span>]][[User talk:McDoobAU93|<span style="color:#cc5500">AU93</span>]]''' 16:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

::the fact that op mentioned snidely would make sense with that too <b>''[[User:HelicopterLlama|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">~Helicopter</span>]] [[User talk:HelicopterLlama|<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Llama~</span>]]''</b> 16:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

:[http://krabat.menneske.dk/kkblog/2010/07/30/timetravel_movies_from_1896_and_on/ This] looks like a fairly substantial list of movies featuring time travel; it might be a long shot, but you could see if anything there strikes a chord with you. It's sorted by date of release. We also have a similar [[List_of_time_travel_science_fiction#Time_travel_in_science_fiction_films|list]]; it doesn't seem as inclusive, but there are at least links to follow for details. [http://tools.wmflabs.org/catscan2/quick_intersection.php?lang=en&project=wikipedia&cats=American+animated+films%0D%0ATime+travel+films&ns=0&depth=12&max=30000&start=0&format=html&redirects=&callback= Here] is a cross-category search between our categories for [[:Category:American animated films]] and [[:Category:Time travel films]]; I didn't see anything obvious, but you can certainly play with the settings. [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 02:02, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


:FOUND IT ! Thanks muchly :D
:The "fairly substantial list" at krabat.menneske.dk has suffix summary tags for most of the movies listed.
:Looking at each entry with "children" - made easier with "Findbar Tweak" in Firefox - reveals 13 entries, including:
:"1965 | Willy Bean and his Magic Machine | 94 min. (dir. Arthur Rankin Jr.) | Time Travel | Children"

:[[Willy McBean and his Magic Machine]]

:So, half-remembered - it's a stop-motion animation, and it wasn't a talking dog, it was a talking monkey.
:Though, looking at the wikipedia article, I *seriously* doubt the statement that [[Glenda Jackson]] voiced a part... wiki vandalism perhaps ?
:The movie can be seen on youtube - the cast list doesn't include her... ( but surprisingly, does include [[James Doohan]] ... )

:[[Special:Contributions/90.244.130.169|90.244.130.169]] ([[User talk:90.244.130.169|talk]]) 15:33, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

== PlayStation games on Danish ==

Do anyone know a list of PlayStation Vita, PlayStation Portable and PlayStation 3 games with Danish speech, text or subtitles? The only ones i can remember is Sly Cooper, Wipeout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Unit 13 and LittleBigPlanet Vita. --[[Special:Contributions/193.163.223.68|193.163.223.68]] ([[User talk:193.163.223.68|talk]]) 17:25, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


= June 28 =

== SNL parodies of films like Beastly ==

How many movies did SNL do parodies of, for example they did a parody sketch of Beastly starring Vanessa Hudgens and Alex Pettyfer and in that sketch it was Adam Samberg and Miley Cyrus who was the host of the episode of that time?
:SNL does movie parodies all the time; I don't know if anyone has tried to enumerate them all. According to [[List_of_Saturday_Night_Live_episodes]], Miley has been on SNL twice. In both cases she ''was'' the host; the first time she was on, the musical guest was [[The Strokes]] and the second time she was on, she did both duties. Her first appearance, on March 5, 2011, was one day after the release of ''[[Beastly (film)|Beastly]]'', so that seems more likely to be the one you're looking for. [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 02:10, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

== The first image that came to George Lucas' mind when he came up with Star Wars was of a big ship chasing a little ship. ==
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Ok, so in the book The Making of Star Wars, George Lucas talks about "a big ship chasing a little ship" and he says that that was his "original vision of the film". So the first image that came to George Lucas' mind when he came up with Star Wars was the opening scene of the Imperial Cruiser chasing the Rebel SpaceFighter.

Does the same apply to you? If not, what is the first image that comes to your mind when you think of Star Wars? [[User:Rebel Yeh|Rebel Yeh]] ([[User talk:Rebel Yeh|talk]]) 10:01, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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== Name of comic book villain ==

Who's the guy who is a giant head (or maybe just face) inside a big cylinder that floats thanks to an always firing rocket in the bottom with two little arms and two little legs coming out in front?[[Special:Contributions/75.75.42.89|75.75.42.89]] ([[User talk:75.75.42.89|talk]]) 15:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

:[[MODOK]]. [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 17:40, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


= June 29 =

== What are the standard video game character types across all genres of games, but not including pervert or adult games? ==

You have this list of character archetypes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stock_characters but it doesn't answer my question. It's more for TV and Movies.
:Why should it be any different for video games? The difference lies in the viewer's interaction with the characters, not the character types. I don't think there's a standard, or the stories would get very boring, as they would in TV or movies. They can't all be paladins ''or'' killbots. But some sort of "hero" works for most player-controlled characters on quests. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 22:29, [[June 28]], [[2014]] (UTC)

I take it you aren't a gamer? There are definitely character types in games. You can't play too many video games without running into the same types of characters over and over. In some genres this is so obvious that certain things become a notable cliche. The article you have already looks specifically for TV and movies, what with characters like The Grand Dame, and I'm more interested in researching character types specific to video games of all genres minus, you know, hentai games and whatever other weird stuff.

:I'm not a hardcore gamer, but a longtime one. Of course there are characters. I just doubt they're any different from TV, film, novel or comic characters, aside from the part where you make them move. The article you linked says they recur "in many works", and many of the specific examples are video game characters as well. Darth Vader, Tony Montana, Atalanta (I just finished [[Herc's Adventures]] recently as Player 2).

:Can you think of a game which ''doesn't'' use characters from this list? If so, maybe this question has a different answer. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 23:47, [[June 28]], [[2014]] (UTC)

:Are there any characters in [[Tetris]], for example? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 00:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

::Or [[Flight Simulator]]? Or [[Sudden Strike]]/[[Blitzkrieg]], for that matter? [[Special:Contributions/24.5.122.13|24.5.122.13]] ([[User talk:24.5.122.13|talk]]) 00:29, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

:::Or [[Pong]]. Nature's purest battle, between whatever Player 1 stands for and Player 2 longs to destroy. Should have specified "games with characters", I guess. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 17:32, [[June 29]], [[2014]] (UTC)

The Spy, The Infiltrator, and The Amnesiac aren't listed but they are character types in games as well as TV and movies. There is also The Mentally Unstable Woman, like American McGee's version of Alice.

:As far as common stock characters in computer games, the player's character is often variously an action hero, angry white male, anti-hero, bad boy, battle-axe, Byronic hero, detective, farmer's daughter, feral child, hero, hotshot, knight-errant, legacy hero, lone vigilante, outlaw, paladin, reluctant hero, superhero/supersoldier, swashbuckler, or Tarzanide (sometimes more than one of these); whereas the [[opfor]] may be variously composed of alien invaders, black brutes, killbots, mad scientists, monsters, outlaws, redshirts, space Nazis, space pirates, supersoldiers, swamp monsters, swashbucklers, or zombies, with their evil [[boss]]es represented variously by bad boys, battle-axes, black knights, crones, dark ladies, evil clowns, femmes fatales, hags, mad scientists, monsters, outlaws, rakes, space Nazis, space pirates, stupid superiors, supervillains, swamp monsters, swashbucklers, town bullies, treasure guardians, or tycoons. [[Special:Contributions/24.5.122.13|24.5.122.13]] ([[User talk:24.5.122.13|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Cool, thanks.

== Celebrities donate game-show winnings to charity ==

Oftentimes, when celebrities appear on TV game shows, they donate their prize money to charity. In cases like this, does the game show pay the money to the celebrity (who must report this as income), and then the celebrity donates the money to charity (and can thus declare a charitable contribution)? Or does the game show itself just directly give the donation to the charity (so that the celebrity has earned no income whatsoever in the process and, presumably, the game show itself declares a charitable contribution)? This refers to the USA. Does anyone know how this typically works? Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 15:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

:I believe they plan and announce in advance which charity they are playing for, and that the money goes directly there. Of course, charitable contributions are tax deductible, so they could do it that way, but it would be a hassle for the celebrity, and if they didn't give it to charity, as promised, that might cause legal problems. Better to just give it directly to the charity. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 16:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

: Not answering the question, but coincidentally, yesterday I was reading [http://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/2009/01/29/%E2%80%98doing-millionaire%E2%80%99-tonight-and-i%E2%80%99m-petrified/ this blog] from someone who had appeared on Celebrity [[Who Wants to Be a Millionaire]] in the UK. He says that the show gave the option of donating the celebrities' appearance fee - which he says was relatively small for WWTBAM - to the charity on top of the winnings. (The situation is a bit different in the UK as prize money in shows of this type is not taxable.) [[User:AndrewWTaylor|AndrewWTaylor]] ([[User talk:AndrewWTaylor|talk]]) 20:35, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

== Hands & feet sport ==

Are there any sports that allow the players to touch the ball with both the hands '''and''' the feet (as opposed to either one or the other)? --[[Special:Contributions/66.190.99.112|66.190.99.112]] ([[User talk:66.190.99.112|talk]]) 18:48, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

:Rugby, American Football, Australian Football, Gaelic Football. [[User:Widneymanor|Widneymanor]] ([[User talk:Widneymanor|talk]]) 19:09, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

== FIFA World Cup 2014 ==

I was watching the game Costa Rica-Greece and something caught my attention. I don't know if I saw it correctly, but at one moment Costa Rica's goalkeeper seemed to take the ball out of the penalty area with his hands and then performed the goal kick with his foot. Wouldn't that have been against the rules? --[[Special:Contributions/2.245.218.102|2.245.218.102]] ([[User talk:2.245.218.102|talk]]) 22:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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December 13

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Small question about sourcing release dates

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Hello, I apologize if this is the wrong spot to ask this. I'm currently doing the "suggested edits" from my own home page, to try and gain a bit more practical editing experience, and the first I got was Superhero film.

A lot of the "citation needed" templates seem to be concerning justifying the release dates of each work; right now, I'm looking e.g. at "The following year, the sequel titled Ultraman Zearth 2: Superhuman Big Battle - Light and Shadow premiered." from the "1978–1998: Rising popularity with Superman, Kamen Rider, Batman, and Ultraman Zearth" section, and I'm wondering what's the best practice to source this kind of thing.

I'm assuming that, per WP:IMDB, that website (which on my personal time would be the first source I look at for release dates) doesn't work because it's USERGENERATED; so, where else should I be looking?

Thank you for any help! NewBorders (talk) 17:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two sources for the year 1997: Rotten Tomatoes, Apple TV+.  --Lambiam 18:57, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm - I would normally be okay with Rotten Tomatoes, but WP:ROTTENTOMATOES does also state that "There is consensus that Rotten Tomatoes should not be used for biographical information, cast and crew data, or other film and television data, as it is sourced from user-generated and user-provided content with a lack of oversight and verification."
Should I just use Apple TV and be done with it, then? Or do you think RT, in this case, is fine despite the above? NewBorders (talk) 20:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Roku, not listed at WP:RSP, also has 1997.  --Lambiam 15:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again for your help! I think I'll try using the two you mentioned that aren't at RSP, then.
Anyway, if editors looking at the page in the future find issue with these sources, they can always discuss on the talk page, or at WP:RSN. Or better yet, add more reliable sourcing. NewBorders (talk) 17:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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BBC Sunday-Night Play DVD

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BBC Sunday-Night Play was a British tv series which air on the BBC Television from 1960-1963. A very short amount of the episodes have survived and I've been trying to find out if any of the surviving episodes have ever been released on DVD. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the cases (perhaps all of them) where the true answer is "no", it may be hard to demonstrate (though it's not logically impossible to prove a negative, it can be impractically difficult), but it would help to try to find answers if you could list the 15 plays in question, by using the references in the series' article to subtract the 123 listed 'lost' plays (Reference 4) from the list of all 138 of the plays (Reference 1). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 17:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC) 94.1.223.204 (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be able to watch episodes that survive but were never released on DVD at the BFI in London, it has kiosks where you can dial up media. It's normally quite quiet and easy to get a seat, from memory there's no need to register or book in advance. Blythwood (talk) 10:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

regarding the comparative difficulty of Chopin's etudes

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I'm curious: is Op.10 No.1 or Op.10 No.2 commonly considered to be harder?

(I always found Op.10 No.1 much harder, but this is probably because for me stretching beyond an octave hurts.) Double sharp (talk) 18:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hard is a somewhat subjective judgement. For me, comparing these two is like comparing one kind of impossible with another. Oh, I can play the notes ok but my speed is ridiculously slow. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 19:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
‘Mr. Horowitz, which are the most difficult of the Chopin Etudes?’ — “Ah, all are terrible. [...] For me, the most difficult of all is the C Major, the first one, Op. 10, No. 1. [...] Also, I can’t do the A minor, Op. 10, No. 2. Richter told me he could never do it, either.”[1]  --Lambiam 10:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Mass production of both grand and upright pianos consolidated a ‘standard’ key size that is too big for most pianists. It took more than 100 years for serious questioning of this situation and, since the 1990s, there has been increasing interest in, and agitation for, providing keyboards that suit more of the piano playing population. Now, a movement advocating narrower key options is providing hope." Rhonda Boyle, Standard piano keys are too wide for too many. But alternatively sized keyboards are on the way. May 20, 2021, (Pearls and Irritations, John Menadue's Public Policy Journal). Modocc (talk) 23:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+1 I think a 7/8-size keyboard would solve my problems indeed.
I wonder if Chopin's keyboard was also smaller than the modern standard. Bar 31 of Op.10/1 (with an F7 arpeggio fingered 1245 for C-E-A-E) seems like it would require absolutely huge hands on a standard keyboard. :) Double sharp (talk) 05:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 18

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White flashes in the 90s music videos

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Apparently in the 1990s and early 2000s there was an international trend of using repeated white flashes for artistic effect in music videos, particularly when shooting indoors, e.g. in Tarkan - Şımarık, Philipp Kirkorov - Ogon i voda, etc. (now seemingly less used). Is this effect mentioned/discussed somewhere? Brandmeistertalk 19:26, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frog and Toad All Year audiobook

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British actor Peter Sallis narrated an audio cassette tape titled Frog and Toad All Year which I believe was released in 1976 although being trying to find out if the audio cassette tape is available to buy anywhere. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The audio CD version (sold together with the book) is listed on Amazon (see here). Whether this is the Sallis recording or a different narrator is not mentioned. Copies might crop up on e.g. Ebay or similar 2nd-hand vendors, but cassette tape eventually deteriorates so the playability of one made almost 50 years ago would be iffy. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 23:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 19

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Little Bear 1996 Audiobooks

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In 1996 British actor Peter Sallis narrated two audiobooks those being Little Bear and Little Bear's Visit and I've been trying to find if any websites that sell it so I can buy it. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 14:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If any websites sell 'something', they need customers to be able to find them. The 'something' would therefore almost certainly show up in any appropriately-worded web search. If you have web-searched for 'something' and not found it, it's a strong indication that the 'something' is not currently being advertised and/or sold (at least online), either new or (currently) via Ebay and other resale sites. On the latter, of course, any 2nd-hand item might show up at any time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 20

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Biggest game between two teams from Indiana ever?

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Any candidates other than this Indiana+ND game? Thanks, Abeg92contribs 04:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Define "biggest". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots04:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Most big" 136.56.165.118 (talk) 15:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most supercalifragilisticexpialidociously ginormous, of course. What do they teach in school, these days??? Clarityfiend (talk) 21:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most important potential outcome? Largest spectator attendance? Largest combined score? Most hyped in the media? We cannot know what you (or the OP, if different) mean by "biggest" (or "most big") unless you define it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Moonstone characters that die 1972

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The Moonstone book appears to have three characters from the book that die and it appears that in the 1972 tv series adaptation less of the characters die so how many of the characters from The Moonstone 1972 tv series adaptation die. Also tell me if I was right saying that three of the characters from The Moonstone book die and if I was right tell me each character from the book that dies as well. Matthew John Drummond (talk) 19:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A question better asked on the Italian Wikipedia, since this Italian-language adaptation was made and broadcast in Italy. It's possible that some responder on this en.Wikipedia Ref desk might be able to find out, but seems to me unlikely. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
However, The Moonstone (1972 TV series) was made by the BBC in English and subsequently shown in the USA by PBS (but I don't know the answer). Alansplodge (talk) 13:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, right. I didn't spot this one, because in The Moonstone#Adaptations (where I looked), it's appended to the entry for the 1959 version and thus less noticeable, and the next entry is for the Italian production, which I assumed was the one the OP meant – apologies. Obviously, one would have to both re-read the book (which would take days – it's 450+ pages, nearly 193,000 words) and watch the DVD to work out the answers to the questions, and I do not possess the latter. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 17:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have now separated the two BBC versions in our article. Alansplodge (talk) 21:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 21

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PEGI "Discrimination"

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Have PEGI ever mentioned or otherwise announced why they discontinued their "Discrimination" content descriptor despite?

https://pegi.info/en/search-pegi?q=&age%5B%5D=&descriptor%5B%5D=Discrimination

Looking at their database it was only used on five games from 2004 to 2006 which is miniscule Trade (talk) 02:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://rating-system.fandom.com/wiki/Discrimination_descriptor Polygnotus (talk) 06:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 29

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