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== History of the word? ==
== History of the word? ==


It would be interesting to have a history of how this word came to be used this way in electric machines. Anyone know of a reference that would shed light on that?[[User:Ccrrccrr|Ccrrccrr]] ([[User talk:Ccrrccrr|talk]]) 04:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to have a history of how this word came to be used this way in electric machines. Anyone know of a reference that would shed light on that?[[User:Ccrrccrr|Ccrrccrr]] ([[User talk:Ccrrccrr|talk]]) 04:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
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== Article needs serious work ==
== Article needs serious work ==
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:Agree. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 22:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
:Agree. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 22:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

:It needs more than just that. The introduction of the article describes the armature by saying what it ISNT, and it doesn't even make that very clear. It's "one of the two principal electrical components.... The other component is the magnetic field (magnetic flux) in the air-gap". This definition indicates that the armature is all the tangible parts of a motor. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.106.92.10|24.106.92.10]] ([[User talk:24.106.92.10#top|talk]]) 20:08, 6 September 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Why electrical engineering? ==
== Why electrical engineering? ==
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"... armature coils having no induced emf. " What is emf? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.106.110.73|76.106.110.73]] ([[User talk:76.106.110.73|talk]]) 11:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
"... armature coils having no induced emf. " What is emf? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.106.110.73|76.106.110.73]] ([[User talk:76.106.110.73|talk]]) 11:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[[Electromotive force]]. It has been introduced in the lead section. [[User:Dalba|Dalba]] ([[User talk:Dalba|talk]]) 06:20, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
EMF is an obsolete term referring to an analogy between electricity and mechanics which is no longer considered necessary. In the early days of electricity it was imagined that a force exists (perhaps metaphorically) which drives a current around a circuit. This concept has now been replaced by that of 'voltage' or 'potential difference'. It is still useful to distinguish circuit components which can act as sources of electrical energy (such as batteries) from those which can only absorb such energy (such as resistors), but it is a mistake to imagine that the voltages developed across the terminals of these classes of components are in any way distinguishable in kind, or in need of different terminology. g4oep <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.37.54.83|82.37.54.83]] ([[User talk:82.37.54.83|talk]]) 08:55, 21 May 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Probably unsurprising to most, my apprenticeship program still uses this term. Much of how this article was written feels like it came straight out of our National Training Alliance curriculum, which is directed toward electricians in the field and not electrical engineers. [[Special:Contributions/50.34.39.39|50.34.39.39]] ([[User talk:50.34.39.39|talk]]) 02:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)


== Double-T armature ==
== Double-T armature ==
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Looks more like a wound rotor than an armature to me. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/140.194.140.17|140.194.140.17]] ([[User talk:140.194.140.17|talk]]) 23:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Looks more like a wound rotor than an armature to me. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/140.194.140.17|140.194.140.17]] ([[User talk:140.194.140.17|talk]]) 23:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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==Lap winding, wave winding==
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History of the word?

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It would be interesting to have a history of how this word came to be used this way in electric machines. Anyone know of a reference that would shed light on that?Ccrrccrr (talk) 04:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs serious work

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This article needs a lot of work, especially in some areas. The two most important things it needs are citations from reliable sources (they should be inline citations), and an expert on the subject who can fix errors and make the article more readable and make certain parts of the article more accessible to people who are new to the subject. -- Kjkolb (talk) 03:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Andrewa (talk) 22:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It needs more than just that. The introduction of the article describes the armature by saying what it ISNT, and it doesn't even make that very clear. It's "one of the two principal electrical components.... The other component is the magnetic field (magnetic flux) in the air-gap". This definition indicates that the armature is all the tangible parts of a motor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.92.10 (talk) 20:08, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why electrical engineering?

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Isn't this purely in the realm of mechanical engineering? 199.61.25.254 (talk) 22:02, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Emf?

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"... armature coils having no induced emf. " What is emf? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.106.110.73 (talk) 11:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Electromotive force. It has been introduced in the lead section. Dalba (talk) 06:20, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

EMF is an obsolete term referring to an analogy between electricity and mechanics which is no longer considered necessary. In the early days of electricity it was imagined that a force exists (perhaps metaphorically) which drives a current around a circuit. This concept has now been replaced by that of 'voltage' or 'potential difference'. It is still useful to distinguish circuit components which can act as sources of electrical energy (such as batteries) from those which can only absorb such energy (such as resistors), but it is a mistake to imagine that the voltages developed across the terminals of these classes of components are in any way distinguishable in kind, or in need of different terminology. g4oep — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.37.54.83 (talk) 08:55, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Probably unsurprising to most, my apprenticeship program still uses this term. Much of how this article was written feels like it came straight out of our National Training Alliance curriculum, which is directed toward electricians in the field and not electrical engineers. 50.34.39.39 (talk) 02:55, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Double-T armature

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Early Siemens dynamos used double-T armatures - shape as shown in Brushed DC electric motor - would be nice to mention here and show here and mention triple-T armature as often used in small DC motors. - Rod57 (talk) 13:06, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

armature or wound rotor

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Looks more like a wound rotor than an armature to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.194.140.17 (talk) 23:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Lap winding, wave winding

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Looking for illustrations on Commons - I'm not prepared to draw these myself! --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]