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== please clean up your mess ==
== New legal article ==


I have finished enough of [[Consciousness of guilt (legal)]] to go public with it. Further development will be appreciated. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) ('''''[[Help:Notifications|<span style="color:#0bf">PING me</span>]]''''') 18:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Igor_the_facetious_xmas_bunny_-_NOT_HERE Way out of control. [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 10:36, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


== Shane Valdez ==
Someone is 'out of control'. It's not me.[[User:Igor the facetious xmas bunny|Igor the facetious xmas bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the facetious xmas bunny|talk]]) 11:17, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


The second edit was unintentional, as I thought I’d done something wrong and it simply hadn’t updated.
===Big Mess===
As noted above, [[User:Igor the facetious xmas bunny]] is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Igor_the_facetious_xmas_bunny_-_NOT_HERE continues to be discussed at ANI]. The user's behavior is also up for discussion at two seperate threads at [[WP:AN/3RR]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Igor_the_facetious_xmas_bunny_reported_by_User:Legacypac_.28Result:_no_violation.29 link 1], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Igor_the_facetious_xmas_bunny_reported_by_User:Neutralhomer_.28Result:_.29 link 2]) and an SPI has been [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Igor_the_facetious_xmas_bunny opened here].


I do not know how to add the citation the information regarding his arrest came from the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and is listed on a local page which displays local arrests.
With the mess the user has caused (as evidenced by the multiple threads linked above) it might be helpful to know who we are dealing with here. Igor says he/she [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=639940085 "confirmed my prior history with" you]. Since the user's behavior is less than stellar (ie: edit-warring, socks, gaming the system, ANI thread, 3RR violations, etc.), knowing who they are would be helpful. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 13:36, 28 December 2014 (UTC)</small>
:The ANI thread has been closed with the following summary by [[User:Nick]]: "GorillaWarfare appears to have taken responsibility for this debacle and will presumably clear up the mess left by Igor the facetious xmas bunny when they return online later. I would have indefinitely blocked the account for disruption, in agreement with several of my fellow administrators, but if GW wants to take responsibility for this disruption, on their head be it. Please, can everybody else return to more productive, fruitful editing."


if you can tell me how to add the citation, I will do so.
:On the SPI, there is a possible, though currently unconfirmed, connection between Igor and globally-blocked [[User:Operahome]]. There is behavioral evidence that leans toward Igor being Operahome. Edits by various IPs connected to Igor after Operahome blocks are very curious. Plus, Operahome and Igor both editing the article/draft for [[Igor Janev]] (now SALTed after an Operahome SPI) shows a possible connection as well. [[User:Toddy1]] also claims there is "very good evidence that Igor is Operahome".


This is the link.
:I believe a response to all of this is needed from you, especially after the ANI thread being closed and the responsibility for Igor's behavior being placed on your head. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;">Neutralhomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;">Talk</span>]] • 15:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)</small>


{{redacted}}
::If you are not going to deal with this user can you at least make it clear that at this point enough new edits have been made that you would not consider a reversal to be wheel warring? Your choice to unblock without discussion or consensus has left us hand tied due to wheel warring policies. [[User talk:Chillum|<b style="color:DarkOliveGreen">Chillum</b>]] 17:53, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


I am not a random person, I know Shane and his family personally. It wasn’t my intent to unfactually defame him but rather give a more accurate glimpse at who he is. [[Special:Contributions/2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9|2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9]] ([[User talk:2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9|talk]]) 22:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for the delay–have been AFK all morning, and am only briefly around right now, though I'll be back later. I would not consider a reversal of the block to be wheel-warring at this point. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:BLPCRIME]] and [[WP:BLPPRIMARY]]: "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. ... A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction. For individuals who are not public figures—that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures—editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured." [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 22:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
:Noting that I haven't had a minute to read through the contribution history since last night, so I can't say whether I agree that my unblock was unwise, but I don't want to hold anything up or have accusations of wheel-warring flying around just because I'm not available at the moment. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:35, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::Got it. Thank you for clarifying. [[Special:Contributions/2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9|2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9]] ([[User talk:2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9|talk]]) 22:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


== Podcast feature ==
::People have occasionally told me that I'm foolish and assume good faith when I shouldn't. To do something unwise, but kind, is not a fault. You tried to help this user and hoped they would do better. We should give your initiative every chance to succeed. I've been asking people to back away from the conflict in hopes that the user will settle down. I recommend people wait a bit longer before deciding what to do. Igor should try to avoid doing anything controversial and see if they can get along. In particular, the soapboxing at [[User talk: Jimbo Wales]] should stop. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 22:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


Hey! I was pleasantly surprised to see your name popping up in my feed for yesterday's episode of ''Better Offline'', I really enjoyed listening to it! Was great to hear somebody talking on a public platform about how Wikipedia works and why it's so important. I particularly enjoyed the discussion towards the end about the rise of AI and the 'enshitification' of the internet, and why that has made maintaining Wikipedia is so important in this context. When I started editing a few years ago, I had similar thoughts about the oligopolisation of the internet by big social media companies, but now with AI and the [[dead internet theory]], having a community-based source of reliable information is all the more vital.
::: At [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=639939377&oldid=639939302 this diff] he claims to have explained to GW his previous identities. He has already stated he has edited under a different account at [[User talk:Chillum]] at [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chillum&diff=639897993&oldid=639890234 this diff - "Yes, I have edited previously under another account; I ''hope'' that you understand that that is not a cardinal sin"]. Can GW confirm this? If not it would demonstrate bad faith. Also, any info given might help at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Igor the facetious xmas bunny]]. --[[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:blue;">'''Mrjulesd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:orange;">(talk)</span>]] 22:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)


I do hope this leads to more people contributing to the platform, as Ed Zitron pleaded for at the end; a recent feature by ''The Guardian'' succeeded in bringing at least one or two new people into the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red|Women in Red project]], so I'm really pleased to see folk actively promoting more people getting involved. Anyway, I digress. Thank you so much for doing this podcast episode, I really appreciated it. :) --[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 10:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
::::[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=640008422&oldid=639998612 Confirmed]. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 23:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
*For better or for worse, Gorilla, you are now the bunny's keeper. :) Good luck with it. I want to echo {{U|Jehochman}}'s comment, and I credit you for sticking your neck out. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 18:08, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
::GW: I think what needs to be explained is under what basis he was granted an alternate legitimate account. I've looked at [[WP:SOCK]] and the closest I could come up with, based on his humorous user name, is a humor account. Is this the case? If it could be explained I would be very grateful. --[[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:blue;">'''Mrjulesd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|<span style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive; color:orange;">(talk)</span>]] 18:47, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
:::It sounds like he stopped using the old account and started a new one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that as long as it is not done to avoid scrutiny. Suggest we leave well enough alone. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 18:57, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Mrjulesd}} If you're looking for the specific part of WP:SOCK, it's "Clean start under a new name" under [[WP:SOCK#LEGIT]]. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 20:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


:Bounced onto here to say thanks as well, I parasocially knew you before EdZ, but was happy to see your name pop up. [[User:Tedder|tedder]] ([[User talk:Tedder|talk]]) 04:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
===Igor===


::Thanks to you both, I'm so glad to hear it's being well received! [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 15:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi GW. Could you have a look at recent edits by {{u|Igor the facetious xmas bunny}} to see if they are helpful or not? There's been a bit more edit warring, possibly baited by other editors. I've asked Legacypac to back away, but I'm concerned. Thanks. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 19:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
:Jehochman advised me to 'walk away' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=639998612&oldid=639997891], so I found an entirely unrelated article to work on, in a cleapup category - {{la|Shaiwatna Kupratakul}}. A BLP with unreferenced material, tagged as such since Jan 2010. I moved unreferenced claims onto the talk page for possible discussion and potentially adding it with refs [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639925473&oldid=639925079].


== Miyosmart ==
:'''Legacypac (RV 1)''' put it back, calling my edits vandalism [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639926155&oldid=639925473].


Hi there! I'm reaching out to you as a new page reviewer. I noticed you just deleted the page [[Miyosmart]] as A7 within three minutes of the page creation. Can you explain your reasoning? [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small>]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
:'''My first revert''' asking for refs. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639927440&oldid=639927002] ''Not 'vandalism' at all. Please see WP:BURDEN. Don't add it back without refs, thansk''
:Yes, the page made no credible claim of notability and lacked any references. It was created by a user whose only other contributions have been vandalism and apparently trying to game autopatrolled. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 00:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
::Given that the article had just been created (by a very new user) and it didn't appear to be outright vandalism, why not let it sit for at least an hour (or send to draft) to see if the editor improves it? A quick Google Scholar search shows multiple hits for the lenses. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small>]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
::Further, the lenses are a product, which do not qualify under A7. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small>]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I deleted it rather than moved it to draft per [[WP:DRAFTIFY]]. However, since you seem interested in working on it, I've draftified it. You're right that it's a product — that's my mistake, I misread it to be the name of the company. Best of luck with the article. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 00:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you! Mostly, I was just curious about your decision as I had saw it pop up during a page review, and I went in to copy edit and format, then it had been deleted before I could publish, which was surprising. At NPP, we have a [[WP:NPPHOUR|guideline to wait at least an hour]] to recommend deletion and/or draftify unless there are serious content concerns to avoid being bitey. [[User:Significa liberdade|Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small>]] ([[User talk:Significa liberdade|talk]]) 00:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


== Recreating an article that you deleted in 2023 ==
:'''Legacypac (RV 2)''' removed it again. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639928694&oldid=639927440]


Hi. Is it okay if I recreate draft article (about fever dreams), that was deleted by you in 2023? This time I have better sources. (User [[User:Masem|Masem]] advised me to ask this question from the admin who deleted the article.) --[[User:Pek|Pek]] ([[User talk:Pek|talk]]) 17:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:'''My second revert''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639929072&oldid=639928694], ''Please do not add unreferenced info to this BLP. Please discuss it on the talk page. WP:V WP:BURDEN''
:I would recommend drafting it first, and going through [[WP:AFC]]. I'm concerned that you don't seem to have a much better grasp of the sources needed for new articles (a concern I see is shared by some others, e.g. [[User talk:Pek#New articles and sourcing]]), and especially with topics that brush up against [[WP:MEDRS]] I think it would be best if there was a second set of eyes on the article before it went to mainspace. If another editor reviews it and finds it acceptable, I certainly have no qualms with the page being recreated at that point. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 17:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
::Hi. I made an draft article. Could you please review it, check if the sources are good enough and if they are, could you move it to mainspace? [[Draft:Fever dream (sleep)|Here is the article.]] --[[User:Pek|Pek]] ([[User talk:Pek|talk]]) 11:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I see [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] has already left you some feedback, which is pretty much what I would have said. I have to say I'm disappointed to see that, although you've swapped out a few sources, the article is largely the same poor quality as your [[Draft:Fever dream (sleep physiology)|previous attempt]]. I'm really not sure where the disconnect is here, but can you not see the vast difference between the types of sources you've used in this draft and the types of sources used in [[Wikipedia:Featured articles#Medical conditions and management|high quality medical articles]] like, say, [[Oxygen toxicity]]?
:::Popsci sources like ''Discover's'' "Bizarre Fever Dreams Are Common, But Science Hasn't Figured Out Why", or sources from mattress companies, are not [[WP:MEDRS]] — and the latter are probably not even plain [[WP:RS]]. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 15:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


== Women in Red May 2024 ==
:Then another user - Titusfox - reverted. After discussion, he undid his own revert. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=640183073&oldid=639945333].


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:Legacypac is the one edit-warring. As detailed above, 3 times, he has reverted - calling my edits 'vandalism', and introducing unreferenced info to this BLP, without discussing it on the talk page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639925458&oldid=358581969]


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:I have not attemted to revert it more than the 2 times specified above.
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'''Tip of the month:'''
:Please deal with the problem of Legacypac a) harassing me, b) edit-warring, c) accusing me of vandalism, d) adding unreferenced material to a BLP.
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== Removing sourced content from Progressive International ==
:BTW, although I disagree that the name "Igor the facetious xmas bunny" was in any way disruptive, I have nevertheless changed it. Best, [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 20:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Care to explain? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.174.63.111|201.174.63.111]] ([[User talk:201.174.63.111#top|talk]]) 15:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)</small>
:Happily. Wikipedia must adhere to a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], and editorializing a person's tweet as "celebrat[ing] news of the indiscriminate killings" based on the tweet itself ([[WP:OR]]) and an op-ed in an unreliable source falls far short of NPOV, not to mention [[WP:BLP]] sourcing requirements. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 15:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::Why not edit the contribution so it fits within NPOV? I think it's hardly OR that the tweet was made and picked up in the press by more than one source.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Sleigh |first1=Sophia |title=Keir Starmer under pressure to stop anti-Israel event at Labour conference |url=https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24325124/keir-starmer-under-pressure-to-stop-anti-israel-event/ |access-date=28 April 2024 |work=The Sun |date=7 October 2023 |qoute=Pawel Wargan, coordinator of Progressive International’s secretariat, wrote on X: “All eyes on Palestine in its heroic moment of resistance against the Zionist occupation." Lord John Mann, ex-Labour MP and now an independent adviser to the government on Antisemitism, said: “If I was them I would step away from it. They don’t want to be associated with that kind of commentary I would hope.” |language=en-gb}}</ref> As the qoute states, in response to his tweet the UK governments antisemitism offered his own advice. The author of the tweet has not distanced himself from it either - quite the opposite. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.174.63.111|201.174.63.111]] ([[User talk:201.174.63.111#top|talk]]) 16:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)</small>
:::The [[WP:BURDEN|onus]] is on you to find the proper sourcing, and ''The Sun'' absolutely isn't it ([[WP:THESUN]]). [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::So, the tweet itself is not a source, nor are the hundreds of tweets since, and neither is any mentioning of the tweet in the press, neither an op-Ed, not straight forward report with qoutes from UK political figures such as Lord Mann responding to the tweet? The understanding of the SUN being a non-RS is to do with unreliable reporting of events as to whether they occured, but that tweet occured. It's in the public domain, on the internet archive. Anyone with an internet connection anywhere in the world can view it. How can this not be added to the article? [[Special:Contributions/201.174.63.111|201.174.63.111]] ([[User talk:201.174.63.111|talk]]) 16:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::There are two issues here: the inclusion of the tweet in the article, and then — if included — how the tweet is described. We should first tackle whether the tweet should be included. In order to justify including it, you need a [[WP:RS|reliable source]], or preferably several, to support that it's noteworthy enough to include in encyclopedia article about the organization. If the mere existence of a tweet was enough to justify inclusion, as you note, there would be hundreds of them in any article about a subject with a Twitter account (or, in this case, many hundreds of tweets in articles about organizations that have employees who tweet). So far you have not been able to come up with any reliable sources. ''The Sun'' is so unreliable it has been [[WP:DEPREC|deprecated]] from being used at all. If you would like to argue about that, take it to [[WP:RSN]], but in the meantime you'll need better sourcing.
:::::Please recall that people tweet all the time, and political figures respond to tweets all the time. Wikipedia is not a repository for documenting every Twitter spat that's ever happened; it's for describing subjects in an encyclopedic fashion. If there is substantial reliable coverage of a tweet, it can potentially be included, but I'm not seeing that here. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 16:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::I don't understand? Without getting into a debate of whether The Sun is a generally a RS, I think you need to answer some specific questions in relation to this article: Did The Sun invent that a) the tweet occured b) the tweet's contents c) that Pawel Wargen was its author d) that Pawel Wargen is Progressive International's coordinator of its secretariat e) that Lord Mann as the government's antisemtism adivsor responded with a qoute in the article f) that Progressive International was organising a fringe event at the Labour Party conference?


:::::Pawel Wargan is the coordinator of the organisation's secretariat, I'd say that would lead it to meet notability guidelines. I think any other conclusion would be almost perverse, but that's me. [[Special:Contributions/201.174.63.111|201.174.63.111]] ([[User talk:201.174.63.111|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::It was very nice for you to accommodate others for no reason other than to make them feel better. We have to get everybody's emotions under control so they can think rationally. We need to convince Legacypac to stop bothering you. I started with a friendly request to them. Let's see how they react. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 21:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::It's not a question of whether the tweet happened, it's a question of if it's noteworthy enough to include.
::::::If merely being the coordinator of the organization's secretariat is sufficient for tweets to be included in the article, then by my count, we would need to get to work including 17,482 tweets in this article, including ones [https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/281132474770272256 like] "It makes more sense to eat ice cream in the winter because it doesn't melt."
::::::But that's ridiculous, of course — we only include tweets if they are particularly noteworthy, and in this case, if they are ''so'' noteworthy that they should be included in an article about an organization (rather than one about the person who sent the tweets). How do we establish noteworthiness? Coverage in secondary, reliable sources — which, at least at this time, does not seem to exist. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 20:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::So, it meets notability criteria because unlike the tweet you posted, in I'm sorry, but that not at all that convincing and rather absurd ad absurdum, it is a) from when the author took on his role and not a decade prior b) concerns his political views, in so far as he is part of a political movement c) was printed in the UK press, as opposed to any of the other 17,000 tweets, in a daily paper with a daily circulation in the millions d) provoked reactions from the UK government's antisemitism spokespersons and Chair of Jewish Labour as reported in said article e) was then picked up in another daily article f) is highly relevant to that organization's activities and viewpoints as listed in point 8 of their Gaza resolution on their website: ''(8) Reject the false equivalence of colonizer and colonized, recognize that the violence of the oppressed is a response to the original condition of their oppression, and uphold the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to resist, enshrined in UN Resolution 2625, as "the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means”;''<ref>{{cite web |url=https://progressive.international/wire/2023-10-28-the-gaza-resolution/en}}</ref>
:::::::You haven't really convinced me that the tweet shouldn't be referenced. Quite the opposite. The more I look into it, the more convinced I am it should be there. I also see the article somehow fails to mention that the Bernie Sanders Institute never joined the organization once it was up and running for fairly obvious reasons - the tweet author's views being amongst them (the Secretariat is described itself on its own website as the "coordinating body of the Progressive International." So, I imagine its general coordinator has quite a big role, not dissimilar to the general-secretary of the party.)
:::::::Lastly, I would say, not including the content in some form is not a good look for the encyclopedia, given how it has been perceived to have behaved on this issue, amongst segments of the world's Jewish population. It comes across as suppression.<ref>https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-792808</ref> I don't think this should be dismissed. [[Special:Contributions/201.174.224.174|201.174.224.174]] ([[User talk:201.174.224.174|talk]]) 18:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::::You are certainly welcome to argue at [[WP:RSN]] that ''The Sun'' (again, a deprecated source) is a sufficient source to include the tweet if you are so convinced that this is my error and not yours, but as I've already explained at length, I don't think you will have much success.
::::::::I understand that ''you'' feel the tweet is significant and noteworthy, but Wikipedia policy requires that Wikipedia content reflect the prominence of material in secondary reliable sources. As of yet, I have not seen a single secondary reliable source (''The Sun'' excluded for aforementioned reasons) that mentions it, much less describes it as significant to the degree that it should be included in an encyclopedia article about the organization as a whole. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 19:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::Fine, and I'm happy to disengage, apart from leaving the large amount of unref'd information on that BLP, per [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=640183073&oldid=639945333]. I won't (for now) undo it, I'll leave it to you to hopefully fix. [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 21:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
wdym reddit is unreliable? it's literally where all the discussion from the beginning was taking place and where it was officially announced it was found? tf? what source do you want then? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2001:BB8:2003:D:455:305C:EF88:7EC0|2001:BB8:2003:D:455:305C:EF88:7EC0]] ([[User talk:2001:BB8:2003:D:455:305C:EF88:7EC0#top|talk]]) 16:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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I have to agree that {{U|Legacypac}}'s choice to come to that page and begin edit warring with {{U|Igor the bunny}} does give the appearance of [[WP:HOUND|hounding]]. Igor's edits did indeed remove uncited information, and they left a message on the talk page (and edit summary) explaining what they were doing. Legacypac categorizing the edit as vandalism is incorrect, and saying that the material "looks very crediable and is undoubtably sourced in the refs" is not an acceptable form of citation. Given Igor's recent conflicts, walking on eggshells here and not reverting at all (as opposed to just playing by [[WP:3RR|3RR]]—it does not always take three edits to make something an edit war) wouldn't hurt, but I do feel that it was Legacypac who was in the wrong here. Legacypac, I strongly recommend that you disengage—your concerns with Igor seem to be clouding your judgment, and are starting to look an awful lot like harassment. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


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:I'm walking on eggshells - I've not edited it further. I hope others will solve the specific issue of the unref'd text on that BLP.


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::Hm, I could have phrased that a bit better, I suppose. I meant that, in general, walking on eggshells with respect to reverting might help defuse some of the concerns about your editing, not just with that article. Thanks for stepping off like that—I can imagine this is really frustrating. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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:::With all due respect, GW, the eggshells Igor is walking on were created by the eggs he himself broke in the ruckus of his not-so-gentle fresh start. In that regard, he's as responsible as anyone else for his situation, if not moreso. I do agree that Legacypac needs to back off and allow things to settle down, but I'm a bit concerned that Igor is being let off the hook here and his role in the entire mess is being downplayed more than is reasonable. [[User:Beyond My Ken|BMK]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 22:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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::::I think we may actually be saying the same thing (minus that he's being let off the hook). Most people would let slide a few reverts like the ones Igor made at Shaiwatna Kupratakul. I'm saying that because of Igor's rough start, they need to be much more careful than any other user to not give the appearance of edit warring, as opposed to merely abiding by 3RR. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 23:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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::::::I think bunny owes me an apology for the above comments. Bunny said: "Jehochman advised me to 'walk away' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=639998612&oldid=639997891], <u>so I found an entirely unrelated article to work on, in a cleapup category - {{la|Shaiwatna Kupratakul}}.</u> A BLP with unreferenced material, tagged as such since Jan 2010. I moved unreferenced claims onto the talk page for possible discussion and potentially adding it with refs [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639925473&oldid=639925079]."
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::::::'''This is an outright lie used to paint me as someone doing the harassment.''' The [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=639998612&oldid=639997891 walk away comment] was made by [[User:Jehochman]] 15:39, 28 December 2014 (UTC). The [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=639925473&oldid=639925079 unrelated article edit] was made by bunny at 9:58, 28 December over 5 hours earlier, not after the walk away comment like he claims. My second revert was on 10:25, 28 December 2014‎ still over 5 hours before the walk away comment. Bunny went on to pester another editor into reverting their revert. I indeed walked away after I was asked to except to deal with the ongoing SPI and ANi etc. <s>Later, when I restored the article today, bunny has reverted me again even though above he says he will not do that.</s> I could care less about a retired Thai physicist, but I don't like another user disrupting and making false claims about me. [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 23:36, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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:"after the walk away comment like he claims" - I never claimed any such thing. I walked away before being asked to do so. That's not a bad thing?
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:I have not 'reverted' anything. I hope GW (or other admins) will see who is telling the truth here, and deal with it accordingly. [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 23:44, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
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:''I indeed walked away after I was asked to except to deal with the ongoing SPI and ANi etc'' - yep, he(she) ''walked away'' from everything involving me, ''except for'' all the things involving me?!
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:''I restored the article today, bunny has reverted me again'' - nope, I did not. Check the history. I did '''not''' perform any such edit today.
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I have no wish to re-engage with any articles he's battled me over, but I'm concerned about leaving a BLP with unreferenced claims.[[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 23:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


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I'd also like you to consider his/her accusation that I made an "Outright lie" [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GorillaWarfare&diff=prev&oldid=640306525]. I've complained repeatedly about harassment here, and I can understand a certain amount being tolerated, and being told to 'let it go away'. But this has gone on for too long.
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Legacypac has accused me of many things, and I'd like something done about it. If nothing can be done right now, please direct me to the right place to seek appropriate action - RFC/U or arb or whatever? I'm sick of the harassment, and it's gone too far to ignore it and walk away. [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 23:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


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:Igor, drop the sticks, '''''all''''' of them, walk away from '''''all''''' the articles which have been the bone of this contention, resist the temptation to get retribution or "justice", go somewhere else completely unrelated to anything you've done before and anywhere Legacypac has been --Wikipedia is a very big place. If Legacypac follows you there, then we'll know what's what. If, on the other hand, he stays away and the response to your editing in the new place is another ruckus, then we'll know who's responsible. If, instead, everything is peaceful, then there will be joy in the Wikiworld. [[User:Beyond My Ken|BMK]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 23:59, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


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::{{ec}} {{ping|Legacypac}} My concern here was the choice to follow Igor to that article, not whether this happened before or after the two of you were advised to walk away. Igor did not revert you today, he added a [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=640294805&oldid=640194182 refimprove-blp] template. Do you feel that template is in error?
:::::You blindly accepted his false charge against me, that I've now demonstrated to be based on a lie. You should admit you wrong. I can't understand how you can't see his behavior as disruptive when so many Admins and Users disagree, but hey, you have the big hammer and he's your pet so its your problem. If he comes near me again or accuses me of any more problems I'll deal with it appropriately. I only followed him in an effort to minimize damage to various articles as he ran around causing trouble. I make constructive edits, not destroy stuff and anger good editors. [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 00:22, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::Please point me to where I said anything that indicated that I agreed (or even cared) that the edits to Shaiwatna Kupratakul came after the advice to walk away, and I will strike them. If by "have the big hammer" you mean I am an arbitrator, I don't see how I used that to influence anything here. The only mention I've made of the Arbitration Committee in this whole incident is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GorillaWarfare&diff=640309393&oldid=640309381 below], where Igor asked if that was the correct place to go, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=640017118 on ANI], where I affirmed that I was ''not'' acting as an arbitrator. I stated [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GorillaWarfare&diff=639994833&oldid=639968057 above] that I would not consider reversal of my admin action to unblock to be wheelwarring, and I stated [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=639907963 on ANI] that I was completely open to review of the block. I'm not sure what more you think I can do, short of resign from the Arbitration Committee, to make this seem equivalent to review of any other administrator's action. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:33, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


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::{{ping|Igor the bunny}} If you want outside comment on the behavior here, [[WP:ANI]] would be the place to go. [[WP:RFC/U]] was recently closed down, so the next step would be arbitration, but I doubt this issue would be considered "ripe". That said, you are welcome to file a request if you disagree. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:03, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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:::Either the underlined statement by bunny is the truth or its a lie. The time logs don't lie. [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 00:04, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::@Legacypac - It could also be a simple misapprehension based on when Igor learned of the various statements. You, too, should let it go. [[User:Beyond My Ken|BMK]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 00:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


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::::{{ec}} Christ. Jehochman told you two to walk away at [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=639997891 21:56, 28 December 2014]. Igor first edited Shaiwatna Kupratakul at [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=prev&oldid=639925079 09:54, 28 December 2014]. You are correct that Igor edited an unrelated article ''before'' being asked to walk away. I do not see why this matters. Both of you, '''please disengage''' with one another. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:14, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


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::::(I'll ignore what Legacypac posted here as obviously incorrect) [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 00:08, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::@Igor - Could you indent your comments in the normal fashion? Thanks. [[User:Beyond My Ken|BMK]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 00:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
::::::Any in particular? Sorry, not sure which you mean; feel free to indent my comments; I'll shout if I object. Thanks, [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 00:15, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, did you mean [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GorillaWarfare&diff=640312696&oldid=640312614 this] where I put a semi-colon instead of a colon? If so, sorry; it was a genuine typo. [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 00:41, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
{{ping|Legacypac}} I've changed [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGorillaWarfare&diff=640312614&oldid=640311747 your edit] to your comment to strike the bit you removed, rather than remove it completely. Considering it's been replied to in detail here, removing it makes the following conversation pretty confusing, so striking is much more appropriate (per advice at [[WP:REDACT]]). [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


The information that you provided on Wikipedia about the Arepa origins is not true. Please do your research properly. [[Special:Contributions/76.66.100.7|76.66.100.7]] ([[User talk:76.66.100.7|talk]]) 21:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks - I misspoke, and realized looking more closely it was a tag not a revert today - I assumed it was a revert based on things bunny said and seeing he was the last person to edit the article. Not my core point anyway, he just brushed off my core point that the whole complaint was based on an incorrect characterization of the timing of events. I don't like your conclusion that "but I do feel that it was Legacypac who was in the wrong here. Legacypac, I strongly recommend that you disengage—your concerns with Igor seem to be clouding your judgment, and are starting to look an awful lot like harassment." because it immediately follows what I've demonstrated to be a false accusation and mischaracterization of what happened. Did I hound bunny? Maybe I did for a while. He started by tagging my new article for deletion inappropriately, then slapping a BLP on a guy that has been dead for 170 years, then cut out work history on a retired scientist, and other stupid stuff. I took him for a facetious vandel out to make a [[WP:POINT]] and dealt with his activity as he piled on more and more stupid actions, taunting people all the way. My view of him and his activity was and is shared by many other editors - so kindly don't look at one or two of my actions on one article in isolation based on a false timeline presented by bunny. I would never suggest you give up an elected position over this, but its pretty obvious that Admins defer to an Arb Com member pretty quick around here. [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 01:02, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:Please see the sourcing in the article, including [https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/07/26/538515889/arepas-are-conquering-the-world-but-dying-at-home-in-venezuela]. If you have sources that contradict these, feel free to provide them. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 21:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::You keep making apparently baseless accusations.
::''he piled on more and more stupid actions, taunting people all the way'' - [[WP:DIFF|diffs]], or it didn't happen. [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 01:05, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


== Hi ==
::Thanks for clarifying. I have no intentions to make any actions based on the interactions with you two, so I'm not sure continuing this conversation is terribly productive. I would rather find a way forward from here, rather than continue to rehash what happened when or why. Perhaps you and {{U|Igor the bunny}} would agree to a voluntary [[WP:IBAN|IBAN]]? [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 01:06, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
{{hat|1=Discuss at [[Talk:Xiongnu]]. If you need outside opinions to help resolve the dispute, see [[WP:DR]]. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 22:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)}}
:::I'll accept an IBAN, '''[[If_and_only_if|iff]]''' Legacypac undoes their edit which adds unreferenced material to a BLP [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Shaiwatna_Kupratakul&diff=640183073&oldid=639945333]. [[User:Igor the bunny|Igor the bunny]] ([[User talk:Igor the bunny|talk]]) 01:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
look at this
:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1207575411&title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diffonly=1
:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1197891989
:And this
:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1207108865
:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1222228599
:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1221226250
Same as source 149: "Genetic population structure of the Xiongnu Empire at imperial and local scales" written in "Relationship between ethnicity and status among the Xiongnu" section
::source 149 : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10104459
::Source 50 and 51:
::https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/sciadv.adf3904
::Source 206 and 207:
::https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/sciadv.adf3904
[[User:7712Touch74396|7712Touch74396]] ([[User talk:7712Touch74396|talk]]) 22:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:::As I wrote on your user talk page, please take this to [[Talk:Xiongnu|the article talk page]] to discuss with the other editors involved. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 22:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Nobody talks there. [[User:LaurensAllende|LaurensAllende]] ([[User talk:LaurensAllende|talk]]) 22:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:Hey, Why are you putting in "Turkic" in everything? What is it for?? [[User:LaurensAllende|LaurensAllende]] ([[User talk:LaurensAllende|talk]]) 22:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::Source write it not me [[User:7712Touch74396|7712Touch74396]] ([[User talk:7712Touch74396|talk]]) 22:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
{{hab}}


== [[WP:Co-op]] ==
== Monster High ==


FYI that editor is an LTA [[WP:LTA/GF36]]. I have reported her as such where possible. FYI she is on a /40 mobile range and not a /64. [[:User:Wizzito|<span style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span>]] &#124; [[:User talk:Wizzito|<span style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span>]] 01:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Hey Molly. I think I only briefly talked to you about [[WP:CO-OP|the Co-op]] at Wikimania this past summer; we're looking to get our pilot started late in January 2015, and we're looking for folks who might be interested in mentoring one or two people during the month o' piloting. I figure it's a long shot to ask knowing you have commitments to ArbCom and elsewhere, but I wanted to pitch it your way in case you were interested and had the time. I also just generally feel like you would be a good fit for mentoring. If you're interested, you can [[Wikipedia_talk:Co-op#Mentors_for_the_Co-op_Pilot_.28Jan._2015_-_Feb._2015.29|sign up here]] and check out / ask questions about [[Wikipedia talk:Co-op#Pre-pilot discussions for mentors|how the Co-op will work]]. Thanks a bunch, [[User:I JethroBT|<font color="green" face="Candara"><b>I, JethroBT</b></font>]][[User talk:I JethroBT| <sup>drop me a line</sup>]] 03:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
:Hi! Yeah, between the Committee and going back to classes, I don't think I'd be able to dedicate the time or energy to mentoring. Thanks for thinking of me, though, and I wish you the best of luck. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 04:22, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


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==DYK nomination of TESCREAL==
::he has popped up again with another IP [[Special:Contributions/64.134.101.117|64.134.101.117]], could you perform an RD2 on his offensive, racist edits and edit summaries? thanks [[User:Pvpoodle|Pvpoodle]] ([[User talk:Pvpoodle|talk]]) 08:35, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
[[File:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[TESCREAL]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at '''[[Template:Did you know nominations/TESCREAL|your nomination's entry]]''' and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[User:PearlyGigs|PearlyGigs]] ([[User talk:PearlyGigs|talk]]) 20:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, GW. Apologies again for my mistake. I like the DYK concept and I'll try and do more there. Best wishes. [[User:PearlyGigs|PearlyGigs]] ([[User talk:PearlyGigs|talk]]) 21:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::No problem! Not the first time it's happened, and I've certainly made similar mixups myself. Happy editing! [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 21:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)


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:::Looks like someone else beat me to it, but thanks for the heads-up. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 20:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


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== Thank you ==

Hi GorillaWarfare,

I just wanted to thank you for including your pronouns in your signature. I've wanted to include mine, but I wasn't sure if that'd be welcome because I haven't seen anyone else do so.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you because it means a lot to me.

Cheers,<br/>[[User:U 9 000|u9000]] (they/them&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:U 9 000|talk]]) 01:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:U 9 000|U 9 000]] cheers! Check out essay [[Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns]] and the template {{tl|they}} which will use the Wiki editor's specified pronouns. ~ 🦝 [[User:Shushugah|Shushugah]]&nbsp;(he/him&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:Shushugah|talk]]) 12:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:I'm glad you found it helpful! [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 14:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

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== IdeaLab proposal ==
== Trump and cryptocurrency ==


There is a proposal at the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women IdeaLab] that may interest you. [[User:Lightbreather|Lightbreather]] ([[User talk:Lightbreather|talk]]) 22:07, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Molly. You're the expert on cryptocurrency, so what are your thoughts on what he's said? -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) (PING me) 23:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)


== Existential risk studies article ==
== Mail ==


Hello, how are you?
{{yhm}} Cheers, ''[[User:Manul|Manul]] ~ [[User talk:Manul|talk]]'' 10:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


Given your interest in [[TESCREAL]], I suppose you might also be interested in this topic of existential risk studies, which I have decided to make. If you do have an interest to take a look, it is in my [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoaquimCebuano/sandbox drafts]]. I have also submitted the article to review, a process which I have zero experience with. Feel free to give any advice or proposition of change.
== Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only ==


Bye. [[User:JoaquimCebuano|JoaquimCebuano]] ([[User talk:JoaquimCebuano|talk]]) 03:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Since [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women WikiProject Women] as proposed at the IdeaLab may take some time to realize, and based on a [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women#best_practice.3F discussion on the proposal's talk page], I have started a test [[User:Lightbreather/Kaffeeklatsch|Kaffeeklatsch]] area for women only (cisgender or trans-woman, regardless of sexual orientation).


== Administrators' newsletter – August 2024 ==
It is a place where women can go and be sure they'll be able to participate in discussions without being dominated by men's advice, criticism, and explanations. If interested, your participation would be most welcome. [[User:Lightbreather|Lightbreather]] ([[User talk:Lightbreather|talk]]) 23:19, 16 January 2015 (UTC)


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[https://twitter.com/molly0x57 This] is my Twitter account; [http://www.mollywhite.net this] is my website. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 08:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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== Recusal in GamerGate ==
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While you may not feel that your tweets on GamerGate show bias [(See [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase%2FGamerGate%2FProposed_decision&diff=643344372&oldid=643343773], since deleted), my observation is that they evince a significant personal involvement in the substance of the dispute, and hence represent a serious conflict of interest, and cause for you to recuse yourself.
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Apparently, at one time you also felt that you had a conflict of interest - which lead to you recusing yourself at the beginning of this arbitration. Yet, you changed your mind.


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There is no ArbCom policy, that I can find, which supports the notion that, once an arbitrator has recused, they can change their mind.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy#Recusal_of_arbitrators] In fact, I can find no such concept in any body of ethical standards applicable to arbitrators. While ArbCom has the right to define Arbitration Policy, it has not, in the past, done so by fiat. And it should not do so in this case.
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Unfortunately, your unilateral reentry into the case, both by voting on the proposed decision, and attempting to influence the opinions of other arbitrators, has irreparably prejudiced the case. Any sanctions which ArbCom might now impose on involved parties will be open to question.
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I'm contacting you here, on your talk page, pursuant to ArbCom policy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy#Recusal_of_arbitrators], and requesting that you recuse yourself, and redact all of your comments and votes in the case. While I don't believe that this will substantially change the outcome of the case, I do believe it's necessary to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
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This is, by any definition, an extraordinary circumstance, requiring action irrespective of the fact that the case has already entered the voting state. So, while I will await your response here, I believe the issue must also be referred to the full Arbitration Committee.
* The Arbitration Committee [[Special:Permalink/1238795146#Conflict of interest VRT appointments, July 2024|appointed]] the following administrators to the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Conflict of interest reports|conflict of interest volunteer response team]]: {{noping|Bilby}}, {{noping|Extraordinary Writ}}


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Note: Quite a lot of comments on this matter, both here and in the Proposed Decision talk page, have been getting rather quickly deleted. Not by you, but by apparently well meaning people. That's probably a bad idea. [[User:Fearofreprisal|Fearofreprisal]] ([[User talk:Fearofreprisal|talk]]) 16:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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== Some crappy crypto Whatsapp scam group - interested? ==
: This is getting circulated on Twitter [http://imgur.com/gd1vVUI Imgur compilation]. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 16:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


This is nothing to do with Wikipedia but this is an easy way to contact you... I keep getting added to a crappy Whatsapp crypto scam group of some kind or another, led by a "Professor Martin" (whose image reverse searches to all sorts of fruity things). The amount of effor they're putting in is quite entertaining. Have you got a burner number you'd like me to suggest they add to it or have you got better things to do? Or maybe suggestions for others who may be more interested (who are welcome to reply to this thread as well as presumably there are lots of lurkers on this page - just give me a number, preferably a UK one but scammers are stupid so probably anything will do and the name of persona and I will pass it on to them) :) - Have reported it many times to WhatsApp but it keeps getting resurrected... [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8011:EB50:0:4DF5:3A4A:51B:8AB1|2A02:8011:EB50:0:4DF5:3A4A:51B:8AB1]] ([[User talk:2A02:8011:EB50:0:4DF5:3A4A:51B:8AB1|talk]]) 21:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
::I'd not seen that. My issue about conflict of interest in this matter has nothing to do with what GorillaWarfare's particular point of view might be. It's that GW is *personally involved*. But, beyond this, recusing then changing your mind about it is procedurally unconscionable. [[User:Fearofreprisal|Fearofreprisal]] ([[User talk:Fearofreprisal|talk]]) 17:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:Message to general talk page stalkers - I keep on reporting them to WhatsApp but nothing is done lol, what do I do? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8011:EB50:0:DD5E:3A77:8AB6:1633|2A02:8011:EB50:0:DD5E:3A77:8AB6:1633]] ([[User talk:2A02:8011:EB50:0:DD5E:3A77:8AB6:1633|talk]]) 19:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)


== Wikimania 2024 ==
:If Gorilla honestly thinks GamerGate is just about defaming and threatening women or that Mozilla allowing a female supporter of GamerGate to express her views on the issue was "legitimizing the abuse of women" then she should recuse. Seems clear that Gorilla has the "neutrality is not acceptable" take on GamerGate. Being an editor on the topic would not be a big deal, but there is no way in hell someone should be acting as an arbitrator when they have such an attitude on the subject.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="vermillion">'''The Devil's Advocate'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="burntorange">tlk.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Devil's Advocate|<font color="red">cntrb.</font>]]</sub> 17:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:: But, looking over the proposed decision page, the case findings don't concern the subject of GamerGate itself (pro, con or neutral) but focus on whether an editor has been disruptively editing and interacting with other editors. They are looking at editor behavior which can be judged regardless of what one thinks of the subject of the article. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 18:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::: I understand what you are saying, but the fact that GorillaWarfare has decided to be recused due to being considered involved in other GG matters seems to indicate that this is not an appropriate exception to make. Again, it is not a failing or moral weakness to lose neutrality over an issue where you and people you care about have been ridiculed and targeted. I know I wouldn't be neutral after that if that happened to me. [[User:Peanutenvelope|Peanutenvelope]] ([[User talk:Peanutenvelope|talk]]) 18:49, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


:GorillaWarfare, I don't think you will do it, but just in case you're even thinking about, please don't let these guys pressure you into recusing yourself. Love. [[User:Lightbreather|Lightbreather]] ([[User talk:Lightbreather|talk]]) 20:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Any chance you're at Wikimania 2024? I was looking to see if I could start a critter meetup... [[User:Cscott|C. Scott Ananian (he/him)]] ([[User talk:Cscott|talk]]) 17:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
:Sadly not this year! [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 18:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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== September 2024 at Women in Red ==


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If you saw the request on the PD talk page, I imagine you also saw [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase%2FGamerGate%2FProposed_decision&diff=643344372&oldid=643343773 my response]. I do not intend to recuse at this stage. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 18:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:The statement you link to is dishonest. Were you really just condemning doxing and harassment that would be one thing, but your comments on Twitter are clearly more extreme. I have never seen anything to suggest Georgina Young doxed or harassed people, yet you retweeted someone who suggested that letting her provide a pro-GamerGate perspective was legitimizing abuse of women. You also made comments to someone about GamerGate as a movement by saying a legitimate movement doe not threaten and defame women. Clearly, you are not simply condemning parts of GamerGate that have doxed and harassed but the whole thing. As to what Liz says, there is no way being of this mindset on the subject can allow someone to be neutral about the conduct of editors in the topic area. The evidence in this case covers POV-pushing and misrepresentation of sources. If Gorilla is of the mindset that neutrality is not acceptable on GamerGate then she cannot make an objective evaluation of such conduct.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="vermillion">'''The Devil's Advocate'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="burntorange">tlk.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Devil's Advocate|<font color="red">cntrb.</font>]]</sub> 18:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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::I retweeted someone who spoke against a piece that Mozilla published (and [https://www.openstandard.org/our-sincerest-apologies/ later took down]). I did not accuse Young of doxxing or harassment.
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A tag has been placed on [[:Category:Festivals disestablished in 2023]] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a [[:Category:Disambiguation categories|disambiguation category]], a [[:Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories|category redirect]], a [[:Category:Wikipedia featured topics categories|featured topics category]], under discussion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|Categories for discussion]], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under [[WP:CSD#C1|section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion]].
::As for my neutrality, we obviously disagree on the "clear" meanings of my offwiki statements, as well as the effect they have on my ability to neutrally arbitrate user conduct. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 19:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::They took down both pieces, the one that was anti- and the one that was pro-, so there is no significance to them being taken down. Nothing about Young's piece was there for "speaking out against" other than it being a woman expressing an opinion that you apparently think it is not proper for a woman to express, which was basically that women such as herself have been harassed for expressing an opinion on GamerGate different from yours. In fact, that is something your views would expressly prejudice regarding this case as one of the main concerns I raised are the comments and edits editors such as Tarc, Ryulong, Red Pen, and Baranof, have made regarding harassment of GamerGate supporters, particularly those who are women or minorities.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="vermillion">'''The Devil's Advocate'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="burntorange">tlk.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Devil's Advocate|<font color="red">cntrb.</font>]]</sub> 22:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:If what your reply said were 100% the case, I don't think there would be a problem. ("Regarding my tweets, I don't think that condemning parts of Gamergate that doxxed or harassed women is reflective of my bias (or even particularly controversial)")However, multiple uses of the Twitter hashtag "#StopGamerGate2014" shows that it was not just a condemnation of particular persons' actions, but everyone in GamerGate as a whole—of which this ArbCom case is partially deciding whether to "stop" to an extent with possible block and ban actions on the table for many known GG-editors. The hashtag system on Twitter is used for advocacy, and I don't think your use of it on Twitter was an exception. It is not a moral failing or weakness to not be neutral in a situation where people have ridiculed and targeted you and people you care about, and is quite understandable, and I know I would be the same way. It just isn't appropriate for a delicate case like with GG, however. [[User:Peanutenvelope|Peanutenvelope]] ([[User talk:Peanutenvelope|talk]]) 18:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


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::{{re|Peanutenvelope}} If you could put your messages below previous ones, that would be super helpful. I've moved your last one. ArbCom is not making any statement on how the GamerGate group should continue—saying that ArbCom is deciding whether to stop GamerGate is ridiculous. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 19:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


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Could you clarify why you chose to recuse in the first place and what made you change your mind? [[User:Bosstopher|Bosstopher]] ([[User talk:Bosstopher|talk]]) 19:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


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::::Whether you are neutral or not is immaterial: There is an appearance of possible bias. [[User:Fearofreprisal|Fearofreprisal]] ([[User talk:Fearofreprisal|talk]]) 20:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::I can confirm that the appearance of possible bias exists. -[[User:Pollinosisss|Pollinosisss]] ([[User talk:Pollinosisss|talk]]) 21:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::::: 1) Will you similarly ask whether every other arbitrator has a position ("interest") on this subject matter? Have you checked all of their Twitter accounts as well?
::::: 2) There are a large number of active arbitrators on this case (14 is more than I'm used to seeing) and I doubt that any one arbitrator will have the deciding vote in the proposed decisions. What I'm saying is that even if GW decided to recuse, the outcome would likely be the same. It doesn't look like these are remedies that will come down to 7/7 or 8/6 voting decisions. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 21:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


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{{re|Bosstopher}} I initially recused because I was concerned that people would, as they are currently doing, perceive comments I've made about feminism and GamerGate elsewhere as indicative of a conflict of interest in this case. I thought about it quite a lot, and realized that it's silly to feel obligated to recuse because I have opinions on feminism, and did not choose to hide them. It's easy to make arguments for my recusal, or that of any other arbitrator's, on many cases—maybe I should have recused on ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Interactions at GGTF|Interactions at GGTF]]'' because I am a woman, a feminist, and I believe that the gender gap is an issue; maybe I should have recused on ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda|DangerousPanda]]'' or ''Kafziel'' or ''Nightscream'' or any other case involving sysop conduct because I'm a sysop; maybe I should have recused on ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Media Viewer RfC|Media Viewer RfC]]'' because I'm a software developer, or because I've contributed to [[MediaWiki]], or because I personally prefer the old way of viewing images; maybe I should have recused on ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics|American politics]]'' because I'm an American, and have opinions (which I've also publicly stated) on political and social issues in the U.S. The point is that it's a judgment call for each arbitrator each time, and arguments can be made for or against recusal on just about any case, but without a [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy#Recusal_of_arbitrators|significant conflict of interest]], I choose to remain active. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:Shockingly, the appearance of possible bias can be construed through any number of potential scenarios, but the ''actual'' level of bias in this situation is negligible at best. Thanks for remaining active, GW—you made the right call. [[User:The ed17|Ed]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]]&nbsp;[[WP:OMT|[majestic titan]]]</sup> 21:57, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


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::If you are set on this, I'd recommend seeking a resolution of the full Arbitration Committee. That way, if it blows up, you've got coverage. [[User:Fearofreprisal|Fearofreprisal]] ([[User talk:Fearofreprisal|talk]]) 22:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::I don't intend to do that any more than I would on any other case in which I choose not to recuse. I'm not going to increase the workload of the rest of the Committee with a procedural vote when no one else on it has expressed concern to me about my decision. If another arbitrator believes I should recuse, they are of course welcome to suggest this resolution, and with no hard feelings from me. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:People have opinions on a lot of issues, but here you are once more not being completely honest. Your opinions about feminism are not being raised as especially relevant and it is not merely having opinions on GamerGate that is an issue. Rather, the problem is that your opinions are indistinguishable from those of the people you are supporting in the arbitration case and those opinions are quite extreme. You have a partisan take on the issue and your actions as an Arb here are partisan in nature.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="vermillion">'''The Devil's Advocate'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="burntorange">tlk.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Devil's Advocate|<font color="red">cntrb.</font>]]</sub> 22:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::So you feel that I can arbitrate on cases to do with issues on which I have opinions, as long as I only vote to sanction people who hold similar opinions...? [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 23:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::No, this is relatively straightforward. If you feel so strongly about an issue that you think even allowing the other side to be heard is a bad thing that should be stopped, then you should not be an Arb on a case concerning that issue.--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="vermillion">'''The Devil's Advocate'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="burntorange">tlk.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Devil's Advocate|<font color="red">cntrb.</font>]]</sub> 01:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
::{{u|The Devil's Advocate|TDA}}, that screed is nothing more than personal attack. Accusing somebody of dishonesty because you disagree with them on a procedural issues is ''absolutely outrageous'' and under normal circumstances I'd block you for something like that. Make no mistake: if you accuse ''anyone'', ''anywhere'' in Wikipedia of being dishonest, especially if it is intended to have a chilling effect on that person's participation in matters of policy enforcement, I will block you. The only reason I haven't already is that it would inhibit your participation in the case at this critical juncture. Parties to arbitration cases have a lot of leeway to defend themselves, but that leeway is not infinite. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 00:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


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::::Has the ridiculous bureaucracy of Wikipedia, with its love of procedure over substance, come to such a point where an editor cannot state the obvious when the evidence is compelling? "Personal attacks", so called, are legitimate if the substance of said "attack" is to state the obvious, that there is a biased and involved individual [https://i.imgur.com/B2iCzWS.png]. It is scandalous that certain admin/sysop's have refused to recuse themselves, despite being biased, involved and obviously motived by factors other than creating a great encyclopedia. Making tedious reference to obscure policy in an effort to shut down discourse is wrong. [[Special:Contributions/67.97.90.189|67.97.90.189]] ([[User talk:67.97.90.189|talk]]) 01:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::A disagreement on the policy is not the basis of my statement. She states "I thought about it quite a lot, and realized that it's silly to feel obligated to recuse because I have opinions on feminism, and did not choose to hide them." No one here is saying her opinions on feminism are the issue, but her opinions on GamerGate specifically. She then suggests that having opinions on GamerGate is like having an opinion on admins or opinions on politics. Unfortunately, it seems increasingly that the default response of admins when questioned regarding this type of issue is to make an absurd remark about a much broader subject than the topic under discussion. It is not even just that she has an opinion on GamerGate. I would hardly expect someone to not have an opinion on an issue, but what matters is the nature of that opinion and how strongly it is held.
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:::When someone feels so strongly about an issue that they think presenting both sides is "legitimizing the abuse of women" and thus anyone attempting to present both sides of an issue should be criticized severely until they stop presenting the "bad" side, then it is an entirely different matter. Another Arb has made some comments regarding GamerGate on Twitter, but from what I saw in that case there are far fewer comments and they are much more tame. Her having an opinion is not a big deal in itself, but when her opinion is essentially that there is something inherently immoral about presenting more than one side of the issue, then that is a problem. By no means is she unaware that the issue is more than simply her having an opinion on the subject and she would certainly be aware that having an opinion on a far more broad issue is not the same as having an opinion on a much more narrow issue.
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:::[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/15/female-gamers-gamergate_n_5990310.html The Huffington Post] brought on numerous female GamerGate supporters to discuss their feelings regarding GamerGate. [http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/12/10/gamergate-women-gamers.html Aljazeera America] talked to various different supporters regarding their feelings on the issue, including female supporters. Numerous major media have sought out and covered various sides of the issue, [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/10/24/how-some-gamergate-supporters-say-the-controversy-could-stop-in-one-week/ including the Washington Post]. GorillaWarfare's endorsement of a position that is diametrically opposed to allowing such alternative views is damning. How can someone believe she is going to be neutral regarding this case when she apparently thinks people should not be neutral regarding the subject at all?--[[User:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="vermillion">'''The Devil's Advocate'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:The Devil's Advocate|<font color="burntorange">tlk.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/The Devil's Advocate|<font color="red">cntrb.</font>]]</sub> 01:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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::::Well I suspect you know exactly what I'd say if you'd spoken to me the way you've spoken to Molly {{small|(I find it excessively formal to refer to someone by their username when they disclose their first name on their userpage, but that's just me.)}}—I'd suggest that you went elsewhere, but I wouldn't use quite so many letters. I'm not going to get into a lengthy and unproductive discussion with you about why Molly should or shouldn't recuse, both because it would be lengthy and unproductive and because it would be impolite to discuss Molly in the third person on her own talk page. My warning wrt personal attacks, accusations of dishonesty, and chilling effects stands. You can either heed it or be blocked. The choice is entirely yours. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 01:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
* A [[Wikipedia talk:Notability (species)#Proposal to adopt this guideline|request for comment]] is open to discuss whether [[Wikipedia:Notability (species)|Notability (species)]] should be adopted as a [[WP:SNG|subject-specific notability guideline]].


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{{outdent}} Apologies if I misinterpreted what you said—I've been getting a lot of accusations from all angles in the last 24 hours, and sometimes it's hard to tell who's taking issue with what. We could go back and forth here for a long time about whether I'm biased, but I'm going to end this conversation now in the interest of focusing on both the case and my schoolwork. To repeat what I said above: I don't intend to recuse from the case. If another arbitrator wishes to bring it up for discussion among the rest of the Committee, that's fine, but I don't intend to do so myself. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 01:21, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1239237654#Motion 2: World War II and the history of Jews in Poland|motion]], [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland#My very best wishes bans|remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of ''World War II and the history of Jews in Poland'']] (the topic and interaction bans on [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]], respectively) were repealed.
* [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort#Cinderella157 German history topic ban|Remedy 3C]] of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort|''German war effort'' case]] ("{{noping|Cinderella157}} German history topic ban") was [[Special:Permalink/1243178496Motion: Cinderella157's topic ban suspended|suspended]] for a period of six months.
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== User:GorillaWarfareMaster ==

Hullo! I just saw this new user [[User:GorillaWarfareMaster]] appear in recent changes – no idea whether you need to be concerned, just thought I'd alert you anyway.<span id="ClaudineChionh:1729398278384:User_talkFTTCLNGorillaWarfare" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;'''[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]]''' <small>(''she/her'' · [[User talk:ClaudineChionh|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/ClaudineChionh|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh|email]])</small> 04:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</span>

:I'm GorillaWarfareMaster. He's GorillaWarfare
:He's only a rookie, I'm the expert
:He's like a padawan, I'm like a Grand Jedi Master
:Hope this clears things up [[User:GorillaWarfareMaster|GorillaWarfareMaster]] ([[User talk:GorillaWarfareMaster|talk]]) 04:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
::And blocked. [[User:The ed17|Ed]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]]&nbsp;[[WP:OMT|[OMT]]]</sup> 04:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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== Women in Red November 2024 ==

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'''Online events:'''
* ''New'': [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/321|Asian women]] <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/322|Geofocus: Islands Q-Z ]] <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/323|Women in engineering]]

* ''Continuing'': [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293|#1day1woman]] <big>|</big> [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294|Education]] <small>(year-long initiative)</small>
'''Announcements from other communities'''
* Annual [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2024 Wikipedia Asian Month (WAM)] is an online campaign designed to boost <br>Asian content on Wikipedia each November.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024|Unreferenced articles backlog drive]]. These Wikiproject clean-up lists offer a start <br>to November's backlog drive, e.g. [https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Women%27s_History.html#Cites%20no%20sources Women's History] and [https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Women_writers2.html#Cites%20no%20sources Women writers]
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== Administrators' newsletter – November 2024 ==
== A brownie for you! ==


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (October 2024).
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|[[Special:Permalink/1249813284#De-adminship request for Thue|Thue]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[meta:Special:Permalink/27564949#Maxim@en.wikipedia|Maxim]]

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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[meta:Special:Permalink/27564949#Maxim@en.wikipedia|Maxim]]

[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Following a [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period#Structured discussion|discussion]], the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase II/Discussion-only period|discussion-only period]] proposal that went for a trial to refine the [[WP:RFA|requests for adminship]] (RfA) process has been discontinued.
* Following a [[Special:Permalink/1254983370#Administrator Recall|request for comment]], [[WP:RECALL|Administrator recall]] is adopted as a policy.

[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* Mass deletions done with the [[ Special:Nuke|Nuke]] tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. {{phab|T366068}}

[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* {{noping|RoySmith}}, {{noping|Barkeep49}} and {{noping|Cyberpower678}} have been appointed to the [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Electoral Commission|Electoral Commission]] for the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024|2024 Arbitration Committee Elections]]. {{noping|ThadeusOfNazereth}} and {{noping|Dr vulpes}} are reserve commissioners.
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[[File:Info Simple bw.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Miscellaneous'''
* An [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024|unreferenced articles backlog drive]] is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{tl|Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024/Participants|'''Sign up to participate!''']]

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== 2024-11 some categories ==

Hello GorillaWarfare,

A few years ago you created Category:Alt-tech and there could/may/might be overlap between
* Category:Alt-tech
* Category:Alt-right websites
* Category:Alt-right Internet forums
Also feel free to take a look at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5#Category:Websites with far-right material]]. [[User:Visite fortuitement prolongée|Visite fortuitement prolongée]] ([[User talk:Visite fortuitement prolongée|talk]]) 13:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:There might be overlap, but they’re definitely not synonymous. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;(she/her&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|talk]]) 18:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Women in Red December 2024 ==

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|style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | [[File:WiR Women who died in 2024.png|right|100px]]'''<big>[[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red|Women in Red]]</big>''' <big>|</big> <small>December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325 </small>
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'''Online events:'''
* ''New'': [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/324|Women who died in 2024]] <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/325|Religion]]

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* [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Religion|Women in Religion]] have a monthly virtual edit-a-thon and the next session is<br> December 2nd 4:00 - 5:00 p.m. CST. For Zoom meeting details, contact [[User:Dzingle1|Dzingle1]] or<br> [[User:RosPost|RosPost]]. [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red|Women in Red]] members are welcome to join the Zoom Meeting [https://tulane.zoom.us/j/95434400202?pwd=N0lEQzFFTHZNRXk0NE44M3RxUWtkUT09 here]

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== Administrators' newsletter – December 2024 ==
== Stay the course ==


[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (November 2024).
I usually don't do cute pictures <small>(or Python)</small>, but I'd annoyed if you let the naysayers talk you on of doing the job you were elected to do. Also, feel free to ban folks from your talk page, no one will think less of you. <small>[[User talk:NE Ent|NE Ent]]</small> 01:27, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|DoubleGrazing]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|Dr vulpes]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|FOARP]]
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|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|Queen of Hearts]]
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|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|SD0001]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|SilverLocust]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|Sohom Datta]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255448214#Admin election results - please enact|ThadeusOfNazereth]]
|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Voorts|Voorts]]
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|[[Special:Permalink/1255940614#Resysop request (Ajpolino)|Ajpolino]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255791525#Resysop request (Fathoms Below)|Fathoms Below]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1256350964#Resysop request (Pppery)|Pppery]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1258681482#Resysop request (Tamzin)|Tamzin]]
|[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Worm That Turned 2|Worm That Turned]]
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:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] {{hlist|class=inline
|[[Special:Permalink/1254642984#Inactive admins for November 2024|Aervanath]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1254642984#Inactive admins for November 2024|Christopher Sundita]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1256554366#Desysop request (Dank)|Dank]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1258747214#-sysop (Dennis Brown)|Dennis Brown]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1254732881#Removal of enwiki Admin rights|Dragons flight]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1258369062#Desysop request (Fastily)|Fastily]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1258563026#Desysop request (Graham87)|Graham87]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1254642984#Inactive admins for November 2024|JaGa]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1254642984#Inactive admins for November 2024|Kbh3rd]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1255999577#Desysop request (Marine 69-71)|Marine 69-71]]
|[[Special:Permalink/1254642984#Inactive admins for November 2024|Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington]]
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|[[Special:Permalink/1256544536#Interface admin perm request (Sohom Datta)|Sohom Datta]]
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|[[Special:Permalink/1257061609#CheckUser and conflict of interest VRT appointments, November 2024|TheresNoTime]]
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[[File:Green check.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Following [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators#RFC: Resysoppings after five years with no administrative actions|an RFC]], the [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Restoration of adminship|policy on restoration of adminship]] has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard]] within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
* Following a [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RfC: Enacting T5 (unused template subpages)|request for comment]], a new speedy deletion criterion, [[WP:T5|T5]], has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.

[[File:Octicons-tools.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Technical news'''
* Technical volunteers can now register for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Hackathon 2025|2025 Wikimedia Hackathon]], which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. [https://pretix.eu/wikimedia/hackathon2025/ Application for travel and accommodation scholarships] is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.

[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px|alt=]] '''Arbitration'''
* The arbitration case ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Yasuke|Yasuke]]'' (formerly titled ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion|Backlash to diversity and inclusion]]'') has been closed.
* An arbitration case titled ''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5|Palestine-Israel articles 5]]'' has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

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== Women in Red January 2025 ==

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|style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | [[File:Happy new year 03.svg|frameless|center|300px]] [[File:WiR_Music_2024.png|right|100px]]'''<big>[[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red|Women in Red]]</big>''' <big>|</big> <small>January 2025, Vol 11, Issue 1, Nos 324, 326, 327, 328, 329 </small>
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'''Online events:'''
* ''New'': [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/326|Music]] <small>(year-long initiative)</small> <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/328|Alphabet run A & B]] <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/329|Internet personalities]]
* ''Continuing'': [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/327|#1day1woman]] <small>(year-long initiative)</small> <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/324|Women who died in 2024]]
'''Announcements from other communities'''
* Celebrate [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Day|Wikipedia Day]] on Jan 15, 2025
* Participate in [[m:The Wikipedia Library/1Lib1Ref|#1Lib1Ref]] Jan 15 – Feb 5, 2025

'''Tip of the month:'''
* Celebrate WiR's 20% achievement by adding <nowiki>{{User:ForsythiaJo/20%Userbox}}</nowiki> to your user page.

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I have finished enough of Consciousness of guilt (legal) to go public with it. Further development will be appreciated. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shane Valdez

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The second edit was unintentional, as I thought I’d done something wrong and it simply hadn’t updated.

I do not know how to add the citation the information regarding his arrest came from the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and is listed on a local page which displays local arrests.

if you can tell me how to add the citation, I will do so.

This is the link.

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I am not a random person, I know Shane and his family personally. It wasn’t my intent to unfactually defame him but rather give a more accurate glimpse at who he is. 2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9 (talk) 22:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:BLPCRIME and WP:BLPPRIMARY: "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. ... A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction. For individuals who are not public figures—that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures—editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured." GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thank you for clarifying. 2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9 (talk) 22:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey! I was pleasantly surprised to see your name popping up in my feed for yesterday's episode of Better Offline, I really enjoyed listening to it! Was great to hear somebody talking on a public platform about how Wikipedia works and why it's so important. I particularly enjoyed the discussion towards the end about the rise of AI and the 'enshitification' of the internet, and why that has made maintaining Wikipedia is so important in this context. When I started editing a few years ago, I had similar thoughts about the oligopolisation of the internet by big social media companies, but now with AI and the dead internet theory, having a community-based source of reliable information is all the more vital.

I do hope this leads to more people contributing to the platform, as Ed Zitron pleaded for at the end; a recent feature by The Guardian succeeded in bringing at least one or two new people into the Women in Red project, so I'm really pleased to see folk actively promoting more people getting involved. Anyway, I digress. Thank you so much for doing this podcast episode, I really appreciated it. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bounced onto here to say thanks as well, I parasocially knew you before EdZ, but was happy to see your name pop up. tedder (talk) 04:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to you both, I'm so glad to hear it's being well received! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miyosmart

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Hi there! I'm reaching out to you as a new page reviewer. I noticed you just deleted the page Miyosmart as A7 within three minutes of the page creation. Can you explain your reasoning? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the page made no credible claim of notability and lacked any references. It was created by a user whose only other contributions have been vandalism and apparently trying to game autopatrolled. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given that the article had just been created (by a very new user) and it didn't appear to be outright vandalism, why not let it sit for at least an hour (or send to draft) to see if the editor improves it? A quick Google Scholar search shows multiple hits for the lenses. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Further, the lenses are a product, which do not qualify under A7. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted it rather than moved it to draft per WP:DRAFTIFY. However, since you seem interested in working on it, I've draftified it. You're right that it's a product — that's my mistake, I misread it to be the name of the company. Best of luck with the article. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Mostly, I was just curious about your decision as I had saw it pop up during a page review, and I went in to copy edit and format, then it had been deleted before I could publish, which was surprising. At NPP, we have a guideline to wait at least an hour to recommend deletion and/or draftify unless there are serious content concerns to avoid being bitey. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recreating an article that you deleted in 2023

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Hi. Is it okay if I recreate draft article (about fever dreams), that was deleted by you in 2023? This time I have better sources. (User Masem advised me to ask this question from the admin who deleted the article.) --Pek (talk) 17:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend drafting it first, and going through WP:AFC. I'm concerned that you don't seem to have a much better grasp of the sources needed for new articles (a concern I see is shared by some others, e.g. User talk:Pek#New articles and sourcing), and especially with topics that brush up against WP:MEDRS I think it would be best if there was a second set of eyes on the article before it went to mainspace. If another editor reviews it and finds it acceptable, I certainly have no qualms with the page being recreated at that point. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I made an draft article. Could you please review it, check if the sources are good enough and if they are, could you move it to mainspace? Here is the article. --Pek (talk) 11:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see Drmies has already left you some feedback, which is pretty much what I would have said. I have to say I'm disappointed to see that, although you've swapped out a few sources, the article is largely the same poor quality as your previous attempt. I'm really not sure where the disconnect is here, but can you not see the vast difference between the types of sources you've used in this draft and the types of sources used in high quality medical articles like, say, Oxygen toxicity?
Popsci sources like Discover's "Bizarre Fever Dreams Are Common, But Science Hasn't Figured Out Why", or sources from mattress companies, are not WP:MEDRS — and the latter are probably not even plain WP:RS. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Removing sourced content from Progressive International

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Care to explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.174.63.111 (talk) 15:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happily. Wikipedia must adhere to a neutral point of view, and editorializing a person's tweet as "celebrat[ing] news of the indiscriminate killings" based on the tweet itself (WP:OR) and an op-ed in an unreliable source falls far short of NPOV, not to mention WP:BLP sourcing requirements. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why not edit the contribution so it fits within NPOV? I think it's hardly OR that the tweet was made and picked up in the press by more than one source.[1] As the qoute states, in response to his tweet the UK governments antisemitism offered his own advice. The author of the tweet has not distanced himself from it either - quite the opposite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.174.63.111 (talk) 16:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The onus is on you to find the proper sourcing, and The Sun absolutely isn't it (WP:THESUN). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, the tweet itself is not a source, nor are the hundreds of tweets since, and neither is any mentioning of the tweet in the press, neither an op-Ed, not straight forward report with qoutes from UK political figures such as Lord Mann responding to the tweet? The understanding of the SUN being a non-RS is to do with unreliable reporting of events as to whether they occured, but that tweet occured. It's in the public domain, on the internet archive. Anyone with an internet connection anywhere in the world can view it. How can this not be added to the article? 201.174.63.111 (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are two issues here: the inclusion of the tweet in the article, and then — if included — how the tweet is described. We should first tackle whether the tweet should be included. In order to justify including it, you need a reliable source, or preferably several, to support that it's noteworthy enough to include in encyclopedia article about the organization. If the mere existence of a tweet was enough to justify inclusion, as you note, there would be hundreds of them in any article about a subject with a Twitter account (or, in this case, many hundreds of tweets in articles about organizations that have employees who tweet). So far you have not been able to come up with any reliable sources. The Sun is so unreliable it has been deprecated from being used at all. If you would like to argue about that, take it to WP:RSN, but in the meantime you'll need better sourcing.
Please recall that people tweet all the time, and political figures respond to tweets all the time. Wikipedia is not a repository for documenting every Twitter spat that's ever happened; it's for describing subjects in an encyclopedic fashion. If there is substantial reliable coverage of a tweet, it can potentially be included, but I'm not seeing that here. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand? Without getting into a debate of whether The Sun is a generally a RS, I think you need to answer some specific questions in relation to this article: Did The Sun invent that a) the tweet occured b) the tweet's contents c) that Pawel Wargen was its author d) that Pawel Wargen is Progressive International's coordinator of its secretariat e) that Lord Mann as the government's antisemtism adivsor responded with a qoute in the article f) that Progressive International was organising a fringe event at the Labour Party conference?
Pawel Wargan is the coordinator of the organisation's secretariat, I'd say that would lead it to meet notability guidelines. I think any other conclusion would be almost perverse, but that's me. 201.174.63.111 (talk) 16:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a question of whether the tweet happened, it's a question of if it's noteworthy enough to include.
If merely being the coordinator of the organization's secretariat is sufficient for tweets to be included in the article, then by my count, we would need to get to work including 17,482 tweets in this article, including ones like "It makes more sense to eat ice cream in the winter because it doesn't melt."
But that's ridiculous, of course — we only include tweets if they are particularly noteworthy, and in this case, if they are so noteworthy that they should be included in an article about an organization (rather than one about the person who sent the tweets). How do we establish noteworthiness? Coverage in secondary, reliable sources — which, at least at this time, does not seem to exist. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, it meets notability criteria because unlike the tweet you posted, in I'm sorry, but that not at all that convincing and rather absurd ad absurdum, it is a) from when the author took on his role and not a decade prior b) concerns his political views, in so far as he is part of a political movement c) was printed in the UK press, as opposed to any of the other 17,000 tweets, in a daily paper with a daily circulation in the millions d) provoked reactions from the UK government's antisemitism spokespersons and Chair of Jewish Labour as reported in said article e) was then picked up in another daily article f) is highly relevant to that organization's activities and viewpoints as listed in point 8 of their Gaza resolution on their website: (8) Reject the false equivalence of colonizer and colonized, recognize that the violence of the oppressed is a response to the original condition of their oppression, and uphold the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to resist, enshrined in UN Resolution 2625, as "the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means”;[2]
You haven't really convinced me that the tweet shouldn't be referenced. Quite the opposite. The more I look into it, the more convinced I am it should be there. I also see the article somehow fails to mention that the Bernie Sanders Institute never joined the organization once it was up and running for fairly obvious reasons - the tweet author's views being amongst them (the Secretariat is described itself on its own website as the "coordinating body of the Progressive International." So, I imagine its general coordinator has quite a big role, not dissimilar to the general-secretary of the party.)
Lastly, I would say, not including the content in some form is not a good look for the encyclopedia, given how it has been perceived to have behaved on this issue, amongst segments of the world's Jewish population. It comes across as suppression.[3] I don't think this should be dismissed. 201.174.224.174 (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are certainly welcome to argue at WP:RSN that The Sun (again, a deprecated source) is a sufficient source to include the tweet if you are so convinced that this is my error and not yours, but as I've already explained at length, I don't think you will have much success.
I understand that you feel the tweet is significant and noteworthy, but Wikipedia policy requires that Wikipedia content reflect the prominence of material in secondary reliable sources. As of yet, I have not seen a single secondary reliable source (The Sun excluded for aforementioned reasons) that mentions it, much less describes it as significant to the degree that it should be included in an encyclopedia article about the organization as a whole. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Sleigh, Sophia (7 October 2023). "Keir Starmer under pressure to stop anti-Israel event at Labour conference". The Sun. Retrieved 28 April 2024. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |qoute= ignored (help)
  2. ^ https://progressive.international/wire/2023-10-28-the-gaza-resolution/en. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  3. ^ https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-792808

Everyone Knows That (Ulterior Motives)

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wdym reddit is unreliable? it's literally where all the discussion from the beginning was taking place and where it was officially announced it was found? tf? what source do you want then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BB8:2003:D:455:305C:EF88:7EC0 (talk) 16:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:PRIMARY and WP:UGC. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arepas origins

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The information that you provided on Wikipedia about the Arepa origins is not true. Please do your research properly. 76.66.100.7 (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the sourcing in the article, including [1]. If you have sources that contradict these, feel free to provide them. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

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Discuss at Talk:Xiongnu. If you need outside opinions to help resolve the dispute, see WP:DR. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

look at this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1207575411&title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diffonly=1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1197891989
And this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1207108865
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1222228599
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ulaanzuukh_culture&diff=prev&oldid=1221226250

Same as source 149: "Genetic population structure of the Xiongnu Empire at imperial and local scales" written in "Relationship between ethnicity and status among the Xiongnu" section

source 149 : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10104459
Source 50 and 51:
https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/sciadv.adf3904
Source 206 and 207:
https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/sciadv.adf3904

7712Touch74396 (talk) 22:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I wrote on your user talk page, please take this to the article talk page to discuss with the other editors involved. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody talks there. LaurensAllende (talk) 22:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Why are you putting in "Turkic" in everything? What is it for?? LaurensAllende (talk) 22:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source write it not me 7712Touch74396 (talk) 22:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Monster High

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FYI that editor is an LTA WP:LTA/GF36. I have reported her as such where possible. FYI she is on a /40 mobile range and not a /64. wizzito | say hello! 01:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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The Original Barnstar
Thanks for help cleaning up TESCREAL article! Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of TESCREAL

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Hello! Your submission of TESCREAL at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PearlyGigs (talk) 20:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, GW. Apologies again for my mistake. I like the DYK concept and I'll try and do more there. Best wishes. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Not the first time it's happened, and I've certainly made similar mixups myself. Happy editing! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you

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Hi GorillaWarfare,

I just wanted to thank you for including your pronouns in your signature. I've wanted to include mine, but I wasn't sure if that'd be welcome because I haven't seen anyone else do so.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you because it means a lot to me.

Cheers,
u9000 (they/them • talk) 01:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@U 9 000 cheers! Check out essay Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns and the template {{they}} which will use the Wiki editor's specified pronouns. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you found it helpful! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy First Edit Day!

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Trump and cryptocurrency

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Hi Molly. You're the expert on cryptocurrency, so what are your thoughts on what he's said? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Existential risk studies article

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Hello, how are you?

Given your interest in TESCREAL, I suppose you might also be interested in this topic of existential risk studies, which I have decided to make. If you do have an interest to take a look, it is in my [drafts]. I have also submitted the article to review, a process which I have zero experience with. Feel free to give any advice or proposition of change.

Bye. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 03:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Some crappy crypto Whatsapp scam group - interested?

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This is nothing to do with Wikipedia but this is an easy way to contact you... I keep getting added to a crappy Whatsapp crypto scam group of some kind or another, led by a "Professor Martin" (whose image reverse searches to all sorts of fruity things). The amount of effor they're putting in is quite entertaining. Have you got a burner number you'd like me to suggest they add to it or have you got better things to do? Or maybe suggestions for others who may be more interested (who are welcome to reply to this thread as well as presumably there are lots of lurkers on this page - just give me a number, preferably a UK one but scammers are stupid so probably anything will do and the name of persona and I will pass it on to them) :) - Have reported it many times to WhatsApp but it keeps getting resurrected... 2A02:8011:EB50:0:4DF5:3A4A:51B:8AB1 (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Message to general talk page stalkers - I keep on reporting them to WhatsApp but nothing is done lol, what do I do? 2A02:8011:EB50:0:DD5E:3A77:8AB6:1633 (talk) 19:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania 2024

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Any chance you're at Wikimania 2024? I was looking to see if I could start a critter meetup... C. Scott Ananian (he/him) (talk) 17:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly not this year! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

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Thank you! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bitchute page

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Could you please stop reverting my changes to the page? The website had some nazi posters at the beginning of it over 7 years ago, since then it became fully compliant and still describing it as a meeting point for nazi groups is slandering the platform. Please read this Ofcom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyron1987 (talkcontribs) 02:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please continue the discussion on Talk:Bitchute. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I've seen you make WP-themed videos on occasion, perhaps you'll like this one: Explained: What’s ANI vs Wikipedia legal battle all about? by Newslaundry. That's not our ANI. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A goat for you!

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thank you so much for all your work !

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Mentioned you at ANI

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Meatpuppetry at AfD by Mellis. Thank you. I mentioned you as you'd previously dealt with outing concerns about linking another editor to an off-wiki account. Nil Einne (talk) 09:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hullo! I just saw this new user User:GorillaWarfareMaster appear in recent changes – no idea whether you need to be concerned, just thought I'd alert you anyway. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 04:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm GorillaWarfareMaster. He's GorillaWarfare
He's only a rookie, I'm the expert
He's like a padawan, I'm like a Grand Jedi Master
Hope this clears things up GorillaWarfareMaster (talk) 04:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And blocked. Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024-11 some categories

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Hello GorillaWarfare,

A few years ago you created Category:Alt-tech and there could/may/might be overlap between

  • Category:Alt-tech
  • Category:Alt-right websites
  • Category:Alt-right Internet forums

Also feel free to take a look at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5#Category:Websites with far-right material. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There might be overlap, but they’re definitely not synonymous. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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