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==[[Draft:Edward E. Boccia, Artist]]==
HI, thank you for your review and guidance, i made the suggested changes and reference formatting. is it better? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RJHB|RJHB]] ([[User talk:RJHB|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RJHB|contribs]]) 20:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Situational question ==
== Thanks for patrolling my page ==


Have a question about a situation I've run across and would like guidance. Not sure if its a "Take to AN for clarification from two accounts, report both users for possible meat or possible noncontributing behavior, or an ignore it for odd but not actionable behavior at this time" situation.
Do you know how to make the table centered? Thanks '''[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 20:54, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|Tetra quark}}, just add <code><nowiki><center>...</center></nowiki></code>, with the table in place of the ellipses. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::I tried that but it breaks the table. I think I know how to do it now, thanks. '''[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 20:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


Person A created their account in November, made 6 edits to their userpage, and has since made 388 edits to Person B's sandbox. Person B (created Dec 2022) is still actively editing, made 20 or so edits to mainspace a year or two ago, but has made 5900+ edits to their own sandbox. When I asked Person A last month if there was any connection between the two accounts or that was also their account, I received no response. I have not asked Person B anything since they haven't done anything questionable other than the predominate sandbox editing.
== "Worklist" ==


Your, or any TPS thoughts on this situation? Thanks, happy holidays! [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 18:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I have a feeling [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy#Size comparisons for Solar System objects smaller than Enceladus|this]] is not what you meant by starting a Worklist subtopic, or did you mean that once we pick a direction there, we can use a Worklist to keep track of which pages to put it on? Either way, we should keep going at WP:AST talk, though. &nbsp;&nbsp;<b>~</b>&nbsp;<font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:17px;">[[User:Tom.Reding|Tom.Reding]] ([[User talk:Tom.Reding|talk]] ⋅[[Special:Contributions/Tom.Reding|contribs]] ⋅[[WP:Don%27t-give-a-fuckism|dgaf]])</font>&nbsp; 14:16, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|Tom.Reding|Tom}}, I suppose I was thinking more of the latter, since it means that we have a specific place to keep track of the workflow; we won't have to worry about that thread being archived. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
:My immediate thoughts are that it is/was two students working on a school project. I would probably ask B what their intentions are, especially if they're not actually editing other than their userspace. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, their sandbox content didn't give me the impression of student project since it was a Big Brother reality show type of page in Spanish with contestant details and tables with elimination status by week. I've run into a fair number of student assignments here and I can typically identify those by their language, focus, and the not infrequent "In Conclusion" section. I'll ask Person B to clarify their intent and connection to Person A and see if I get any response. Thank you. [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 21:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== Follow Up ==
== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Martin (boxer) (2nd nomination)]] ==


Hi Primefac. Because you participated in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Martin (boxer)]], you may be interested in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Martin (boxer) (2nd nomination)]]. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 02:59, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
What up Primefac! So thankful you responded to my question a while back about switching my name on my Wiki page. Can you {{t|help me}} with a {{subst:Requested move ...}} for my page [[Rawsrvnt]] to now be [[Eddy Puyol]] as I’m no longer rockin under Rawsrvnt? Thanks! [[User:Rawsrvnt|Rawsrvnt]] ([[User talk:Rawsrvnt|talk]]) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:Answered at [[User_talk:Rawsrvnt#Help_me!]] (and fixed wikilinks). [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


== Declined history merge of [[Chris Koclanes]]/[[Draft:Chris Koclanes]] ==
[[User:Primefac|Primefac]] Hello this is Psychetube Psychetube 12:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC) and thanks for commenting - how do I remove the top template it seems outside the normal editing procedures but you suggest there is an easy way. Also I have had my page messed round by someone calling themselves Afterwriting. Vexing! <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Psychetube|Psychetube]] ([[User talk:Psychetube|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psychetube|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Hello Primefac, I noticed you declined the history merge, but now that lists me as the page creator when the creation should rightfully be attributed to @[[User:Assadzadeh|Assadzadeh]]. I draftified the article as it was an unreferenced BLP and then requested the cross-namespace redirect be deleted. Is there any way to fix this? [[WP:IAR]]? [[User:Svampesky|<span style="color: #008080">Svampesky</span>]] ([[User talk:Svampesky|<span style="color: #008080">talk</span>]]) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stanford ==
:Meh... who creates an article isn't always who edits the page first, but sure, I'll go back to your R2 and delete those. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== My talk page reverts ==


Hi! You have called me out for reverting edits on pages like [[Talk:Legality of conversion therapy]]. Although that one looks benign, it's part of a pattern of disruptive editing by [[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:B500:5D4:0:0:0:0/64|2603:7000:B500:5D4:0:0:0:0/64]] which led to them being blocked for three months. Their use of talk pages does not line up well with [[WP:TALK]]. For example, see [[Talk:List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage#Large_table_on_talk_page]]. Currently they are evading their three month block by using a mobile address range: [[Special:Contributions/2600:1017:B800:0:0:0:0:0/40|2600:1017:B800:0:0:0:0:0/40]]. I can stop reverting borderline talk page edits, but I thought you might like some of the context. [[User:Ttwaring|Ttwaring]] ([[User talk:Ttwaring|talk]]) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Primefac|Primefac]] Hello this is Psychetube Psychetube 12:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC) and thanks for commenting - how do I remove the top template it seems outside the normal editing procedures but you suggest there is an easy way. Also I have had my page messed round by someone calling themselves Afterwriting. Vexing! <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Psychetube|Psychetube]] ([[User talk:Psychetube|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psychetube|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Psychetube}}, first off it appears that someone already removed the template. Second, it is not "your page," and anyone is allowed (and encouraged) to edit Wikipedia articles. As long as it is not vandalism, it is acceptable. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:41, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
:Okay, if you are reverting socking/block evasion, please make sure to use that in your edit summary; otherwise, it looks like you are simply removing talk page sections that might not be perfectly formatted. Thank you for the explanation. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::Will do. Thanks for the very quick reply! [[User:Ttwaring|Ttwaring]] ([[User talk:Ttwaring|talk]]) 14:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


== [[Wikipedia:Database reports/Timed Text without a corresponding File]] ==
== A cookie for you! ==


I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. [[User:NotAGenious|NotAGenious]] ([[User talk:NotAGenious|talk]]) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks again for your help with clarifying the legal mumbo jumbo :). [[User:Ries42|Ries42]] ([[User talk:Ries42|talk]]) 15:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
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== Gamergate notification ==
== Probation ==


Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? [[User:Taabii|<span style="color: HotPink">Taabii</span>]] ([[User talk:Taabii|<span style="color: DarkKhaki">talk</span>]]) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{tps}} Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. [[User:NotAGenious|NotAGenious]] ([[User talk:NotAGenious|talk]]) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Your BRFA ==
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Hello Primefac, your BRFA at [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PrimeBOT 46]] was approved. Best regards, — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== How to put titles of reference articles in Reference section ==
:Thanks. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello:

Greetings.

I have been working for a few months to put together a Wiki page on noted human rights activist, educator and writer [[Draft:Partha_Banerjee|Dr. Partha Banerjee]], and I believe I've come to a point where the page meets all the standards and rules, and hopefully, this time it will be approved by Wiki editors.

However, the last bit of help I need is with the Reference section. I have footnoted all the references in the main body of the page, but I'm not sure how to put the reference titles in the Reference section, and then link them with the links. Right now, the links are sitting there as is in the Reference section.

I hope I have been clear with my question. Please help me out.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Page link at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Partha_Banerjee .

[[User:KamrinK|KamrinK]] ([[User talk:KamrinK|talk]]) 19:03, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|KamrinK}}, all that's needed is the {{t|reflist}} template. I've added it into the draft for you. If you want more help, stop by the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse|Teahouse]], the [https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?nick=WPhelp?#wikipedia-en-help IRC channel], or the [[WP:HELPDESK|help desk]] to ask someone for assistance. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:38, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

== Question about notability ==

Hi there, how are you?

I have a question about the decline of my article about a well known Belgian punk rock band called F.O.D., based on "notability". I've looked at the notability guidelines and am wondering why you declined it. Could you eleborate? I've checked the article against the notability guidelines, and don't see the problem. Thanks in advance for your reply.

Here's how I checked the article against the various notability guidelines:
#F.O.D. has had major press.
#F.O.D. has released various albums. And various official band videos.
#Punk rock bands like F.O.D. cannot get gold status. And yet Wikipedia is filled with punk rock band pages. Why not F.O.D. ?
#F.O.D.'s music and albums have been reviewed many times, as my many references in the article show.
#F.O.D.'s last album has been released on various labels, internationally. Again, punk rock bands don't sign to major labels.

I would appreciate if you considered these arguments. This is the fourth time I've improved the article, only for it to be declined. Every issue has been solved, by improving it. But notability for punk rock bands is a tough criterium.

Thanks,
Arjan van Geel
The Netherlands

PS: the article I'm talking about = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:F.O.D._%28band%29
:{{u|Arjanvangeel}}, looking at [[WP:MUSICBIO]], the only criteria F.O.D. even comes close to meeting is #1, and it (currently) fails because there are not enough independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Blogs are not reliable, and sites such as the record label are not independent. I know that demonstrating notability for small groups (be they punk, goth, emo, etc) can be difficult, but I think you've just about done it. A few more reliable sources and your article should be accepted. If you want more help, stop by the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse|Teahouse]], the [https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?nick=WPhelp?#wikipedia-en-help IRC channel], or the [[WP:HELPDESK|help desk]] to ask someone for assistance. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:05, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

:{{u|Primefac}}Thank you for your quick reply! I've asked the band if they can help with some additional external/reliable sources (tv shows, radio stations, etc.). Thanks again.[[User:Arjanvangeel|Arjanvangeel]] 21:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

:{{u|Primefac}}, hello again. I don't know if this is the way to communicate with you (sorry if it is not), but I've added various extra external srouces to the article, to increase notability. Are you the one reviewing the updated article? Let me know if this works. Thanks again for your time and cheers from the Netherlands. [[User:Arjanvangeel|Arjanvangeel]] 11:52, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

== Please re-check ==

[[User:Lixxx235|Primefac]]

{{reply to|Primefac}}

Hi, you declined one of my entries. I discussed with another reviewer and went to the live help chat, and they told me how to fix it.

Could you please look at the page again when you get a chance? I removed the lines that made the article seem promotional.

The page is at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gabriel_Campisi.

Thank you very much for taking the time to help me. I sincerely appreciate it.

Allen[[User:Gentryallen|Gentryallen]] ([[User talk:Gentryallen|talk]]) 20:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

{{reply to|Primefac}}

Hi, again. I went ahead and got all the exact information from several sources, newspapers, magazines, and added the exact dates, times, even pages to the submission.

Please let me know if this will work, or if I need to get more information. Thank you again for all of your help. I sincerely appreciate it.

Allen[[User:Gentryallen|Gentryallen]] ([[User talk:Gentryallen|talk]]) 02:35, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


==Kapampangan Ku Pagmaragul Ku (KKPK) International Inc.==

Good day Sir;

I would like to request to review my article.so i know if i need to get more information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kapampangan_Ku_Pagmaragul_Ku_(KKPK)_International_Inc.

thanks and best regards

[[User:Kkpk091811|Kapampangan Ku Pagmaragul Ku (KKPK) International Inc.]] ([[User talk:Kkpk091811|talk]]) 05:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Good day Sir;

I would like to request to review my article.so i know if i need to get more information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kapampangan_Ku_Pagmaragul_Ku_(KKPK)_International_Inc.

thanks and best regards

[[User:Kkpk091811|Kapampangan Ku Pagmaragul Ku (KKPK) International Inc.]] ([[User talk:Kkpk091811|talk]]) 13:18, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

== 20:13:47, 16 January 2015 review of submission by Sgopikumar ==
{{Lafc|username=Sgopikumar|ts=20:13:47, 16 January 2015|declined=Draft:Sairam_Sagiraju}}


Hi, I have cited 3 newspaper articles for the writeup that I've submitted. Not sure which parts didn't meet your requirements. Please help.

[[User:Sgopikumar|Sgopikumar]] ([[User talk:Sgopikumar|talk]]) 20:13, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|Sgopikumar}}, biographies of living persons ([[WP:BLP]]|) require a heavy amount of references in order to make sure everything is factually accurate. Much of the information in your draft (such as his college attendance, the government films he's directed, etc) is unsourced, so how can anyone check to see if it's true? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:16, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

== AWB Violation/ Capitalize the "U" in "universe" or not? ==

== Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in. ==
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I removed someone's post because it was added after the discussion was archived. Please revert your own edit. Let's simply stop that. '''[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 19:16, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|Tetra quark}}, I would argue that the discussion was not finished, but I agree that Ariane started making it personal. However, you should not have removed their posts as they were not entirely defamatory. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:19, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
::Fine, leave it there. But do you mind to archive it now? I've had enough of all that discussion because of one single member.

::Although I'm younger than most of other editors (I'm 19) and my first language isn't english, I consider myself a mature and comprehensible person when it comes to wikipedia editing. However, just like everybody else, I have my flaws. I totally lose posture when dealing with persistent, childish users. I have this bad habit of lowering myself to their level. You gotta agree that arianewiki is being annoying and insistent, when he is pretty mych the only one against the changes. I really hate to get into fights '''[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 19:24, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::{{u|Tetra quark}}, I honestly do not think that discussion needs to be archived. Discussion archival is for mergers and move proposals and deletion discussions, not the talk page of a WikiProject. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:27, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::Fine then. I just hope you understand me. One person can't try to make everyone else bow to his opinion '''[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 19:45, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Tetra quark}}, I completely do. I think the problem with this particular circumstance is that you didn't hold to the standard operating procedure of Wikipedia, which is to give any discussion ''at least'' three days, if not a week, so that all interested can participate. I know you're super-keen on helping out (and that makes me happy), but as they say, [[Wikipedia:there is no deadline|there is no deadline]], and that enthusiasm obviously rubbed some people the wrong way. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:49, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::::'''WARNING:''' :[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] This issue is under WP:DRN, and it unfair and improper to escalate disputes like this. Drumming up support like this against another user, made worse but doing it in [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] page. If individuals have an issue, take it up with an administrator not me. As for your improper use of archievetop, it has already been referred to [[Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion|Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion]]. Clearly you used it to provoke me, by trying it while I was actually writing my response. You made the changes mid-discussion clearly avoid proper scrutiny.

::::::'''Also, please stop accusing me of "when he is pretty mych the only one against the changes.", is a deliberate falsehood. The issue is abusing [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser|AWB]] and not allowing for consensus.'''

::::::Please let the procedures follow its natural machinations, else your words will send up end up being used against you.

::::::(Apologies to [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] to have to state this here.) [[User:Arianewiki1|Arianewiki1]] ([[User talk:Arianewiki1|talk]]) 19:54, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::::Again, this is absolute deliberate falsehood saying [[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]]: "One person can't try to make everyone else bow to his opinion." Withdraw it or this will escalate even further. [[User:Arianewiki1|Arianewiki1]] ([[User talk:Arianewiki1|talk]]) 19:59, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

:::::::{{u|Arianewiki1}}, you seem to be taking this a little far. Reporting to [[WP:DRN|DRN]]/[[WP:ANI|ANI]] is fine, but making a report at [[WP:RfD|RfD]] for an issue that is ''entirely'' outside of their jurisdiction just makes you look bad. Take a minute, calm down, and then let's all deal with this like mature individuals.
:::::::Additionally, Tetra and I were simply discussing what had transpired, and until you entered the conversation I felt things were calm and rational. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:04, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::::::Actually the truth is this. He claims, "One person can't try to make everyone else bow to his opinion.", but the truth is, he didn't allow my (or others) opinion, because he changed it anyway with out allowing time too even give an opinion. As for the procedures, I have followed it perfectly, and have stated in a balanced case.
::::::::As for the [[WP:RfD|RfD]] , it was he had closed the discussion to avoid scrutiny, likely to trap me in a edit war. Also treating people like they are not in the room is plainly rude. Really, if you were "simply discussing what had transpired", then talk truthfully, and not full of rhetoric and false statement! [[User:Arianewiki1|Arianewiki1]] ([[User talk:Arianewiki1|talk]]) 20:19, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::{{u|Arianewiki1}}, RfD is for deleted pages, not content disputes on Talk pages. It specifically says that at the top of the RfD page. As for the remainder of your comment, I have read over my statements from earlier and I do not mention you vaguely (rather, I do so directly by name). Everything after that was simply a discussion about policy. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:28, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::::::::Thanks, Primefac. This guy needs to chill out a little and stop writing those long angry messages '''[[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 20:13, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{u|Tetra quark}}, you need to stop poking the bear ;) [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:16, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Haha correct. That's a really bad habit I have and I'm trying to get rid of it

::::::::::::Regarding your reply above, I agree that yes: ''Maaybe'' I should have waited a little longer. The thing is that it seemed to be a pretty simple change to me. I'm a fairly new member afterall, so sooner or later I'll get the gist of this place''' [[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] <sup>([[User talk:Tetra quark|don't be shy]])'''</sup> 20:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::::{{u|Tetra quark}}, I know, and that might be why it seems like we're being overly hard on you. But everyone makes mistakes (including me), but if you're learning from them that's more important in the long run. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

::::::::::::::One thing I've learned here is you can get consensus in under 16 hours, and everyone thinks that's perfectly AOK. It was also a brilliant trick to get me to try and edit the difficult [[Metallicity]] page, distracting me from the true game. (I'll make my severe changes on this page now, because on the [[Talk:Metallicity]] about "Any disagreement in doing this?" at 09:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC) (3 days ago). No disagreement, so I'm free to change it as I want!. Thanks, guys!
::::::::::::::But what cheese me off is this statement by [[User:Tetra quark|Tetra quark]] in reply to [[User:Primefac|Primefac]], saying "And no, I'm not changing anything inside quotes, file links, templates, refs, link targets, and so on. I really may have capitalized the word "sun" inside a quote accidentally." at 04:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC). Yet this was after the whole change was done and dusted. My reply, the next one, was thinking this was still open to debate. Oh silly me.
::::::::::::::Yet to finish, [[User:Primefac|Primefac]], says; "Second, @Tetra quark:, you waited a grand total of 20 hours before deciding that consensus was raised; we're one of the more active WikiProjects, but seriously, give us some time to discuss!" But that is now all AOK, breaking the guiding rules, but that principle does apply to some. So, deception is OK, now? Pity. [[User:Arianewiki1|Arianewiki1]] ([[User talk:Arianewiki1|talk]]) 21:38, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::{{u|Arianewiki1}}, you've lost the high ground. The sarcasm isn't warranted (or necessary, since you ''know'' what you're saying is false), so unless you have something constructive to add to this particular discussion kindly refrain from posting further. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 21:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

== Draft:Raphael RJ2 ==

Thank you for reviewing the page "Draft:Raphael RJ2"
I need help in the creation of that page and since you declined it maybe you can help me fix mistakes.
You wrote "After deleting a dozen references that had absolutely nothing to do with RJ2, the only sources left refer to Lil Wayne's record. Thus, there is no notability established for RJ2 himself."
The sources you erased you said had nothing to do with Raphael RJ2, yet they mentioned Raphael RJ2's works and are reliable sources I see wikipedia use all the time and they had his name mentioned in there and has his Credited Works mentioned also. You erased the sources that you thought were irrelevant yet left the sources that were relevant. With that being said, That means you see he is who he is so why not Approve the page and just erase all the mistakes you see because me and the other contributes need help because we don't understand what you need when we've gotten reliable sources that have the same info already approved on wikipedia saying the same thing about Raphael RJ2 . All the sources I had were Raphael RJ2's work that he did. Also His Facebook is Verifde, most the links I got were from Raphael RJ2 directing us himself to them. Me & a couple of other contributors just thought Raphael RJ2 needed his own wikipedia page. ( I see other Artist and music producers with the same type of sources that Raphael RJ2 has yet they were approved and the artistcals didn't mention their names only their works, so I'm confused as to why Raphael RJ2's page is not approved.)<small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.173.4.218|70.173.4.218]] ([[User talk:70.173.4.218|talk]]) 20:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:While I normally wouldn't do a point-by-point reasoning for my edits, this time I'll make an exception since it was a rather large volume of removals.
#http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/raphaelrj24 & the iTunes pages - sites where you can buy things are not allowed as references, as they are promotional.
#Sites where RJ2 is not even mentioned (these are the "he worked with X" references)
##http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/fiend-on-my-job-feat-juvenile-snoop-dogg-new-song.1951808.html (Currection, click the picture, his name "RJ2" is mentioned in the credits, you must have missed it)
His name is also mentioned here on a official site http://www.audiomack.com/song/straightfreshdotnet/on-my-job-remix
##http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/fiend-wonderful-song.963040.html
##http://www.ea.com/news/reknown-artists-partner-with-ea-on-the-sims
##http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.23473/title.meek-mill-signed-lil-snupe-moments-after-hearing-demo
##http://www.mtv.com/news/1709386/lil-snupe-dead-shooting-details/ (Snupe's death has nothing to do with RJ2, and shouldn't be included)
##http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/teen-rapper-lil-snupe-killed-north-la-19450867#.UcPF_vlQH54 (dead link)
#A generic link to a website (http://www.cmonsontv.com/) (I understand, but I thought by RJ2's Voice and Production tag being in all the videos was some form of confirmation)
Also here is a website that Ed Love is working with that also mentions Raphael RJ2's name. http://www.comebackkings.net/about-us.html
#Facebook photos. The ''only'' semi-valid one is the news article, but that should be sourced as news, not linked as a photograph.
:To be completely honest, I should have removed the Lil Wayne references (half are dead links anyway) but they deal directly with Beats How U Want Em section so I left them in. At the end of the day, RJ2 needs to be referenced by independent [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]] that talk ''about him'' in order to demonstrate notability. References that only mention him (called "name-drops") are perfectly acceptable sources for verifying facts (such as "RJ2 produced XYZ album for ABC artist") but do nothing towards the notability criteria. If you want more help, stop by the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse|Teahouse]], the [https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?nick=WPhelp?#wikipedia-en-help IRC channel], or the [[WP:HELPDESK|help desk]] to ask someone for assistance. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/70.173.4.218|70.173.4.218]] ([[User talk:70.173.4.218|talk]]) 12:14, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to help me understand, I'm understanding now what you mean. I will try to find more independent reliable sources that talk directly about him, but it's hard to, when artist don't really give producers credit like that. They work mostly behind the scenes. For Example Here is a Link with Flo Rida Mentioning the Song Raphael RJ2 Produced called "Fresh I Stay" yet he didn't mention his name http://hiphop-n-more.com/2010/08/flo-rida-interview-with-hollyscoop/ Yet it can't be used on wikipedia right? Also here is a listing of the Credits with Raphael RJ2's nam on it about the same song Flo Rida is talking about in the video http://samples.sainsburysebooks.co.uk/9781488505577_sample_255049.pdf

I'm just trying to understand how Wikipedia work. For example do you mean like this Article from a independent reliable source to where the Artist Kat Saint John is actually saying Raphael RJ2's name? http://www.parlemag.com/2013/09/kat-st-john-star-in-the-making/

Here is another one from a independent reliable source about Rapper Styles P and they mention the Song Raphael RJ2 Produced for him called Murder Mommy and also has his name listed as the Producer.
http://istandardproducers.com/istandard-blog/track-by-track-review-styles-p-the-worlds-most-hardest-mc-project/

Here is another one from a independent reliable source about Rapper Hurricane Chis mentioning working with Raphael RJ2 in the artical http://www.reupspot.com/review-hurricane-chris-unleashed.htm

Here is another one from a independent reliable source
http://www.kevinnottingham.com/2013/07/03/fiend-flawless-diamonds-feat-max-minelli/

I even found this article where they are mentioning Raphael RJ2 amongst other notable producers
http://24hourhiphop.com/next-in-line/l-a-h-entertainment-the-movement/1346673741000/

To be honest I have to actually thank you because now I'm finding more work done by Raphael RJ2 I didn't know he even did ha ha!

== AfD ==

Small point of order, but [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikipedia:Dr. Wooday P Krishna]] should have been closed as '''[[WP:SK|speedy keep]]''' under criterion 1 instead of regular '''keep'''. No biggie but if you're going to do NACs you should close them properly. <code><span style="font-family: consolas;font-weight: bold">[[User:Deadbeef|<span style="color:#090;">Dea</span>]][[User Talk:Deadbeef|<span style="color:#000">db</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Deadbeef|<span style="color:#090">eef</span>]]</span></code> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|Deadbeef}}, thank you, when I closed it I selected the Speedy option but for some reason it did not save properly. Not sure, but it might have had something to do with the mid-AfD move of the original page. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 23:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
::Huh, that's weird. I've never had the speedy box unchecked for me, but I've also never closed a moved AfD target. Nevermind then! <code><span style="font-family: consolas;font-weight: bold">[[User:Deadbeef|<span style="color:#090;">Dea</span>]][[User Talk:Deadbeef|<span style="color:#000">db</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Deadbeef|<span style="color:#090">eef</span>]]</span></code> 23:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

== AFD ==

'''['''[[WP:DENY|Redacted sock comments]]''']'''
:{{u|TheSawTooth}}, your comments have been re-added and Occult has been warned not to remove them again. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::'''['''[[WP:DENY|Redacted sock comments]]''']'''

==[[Draft:Stochastic Empirical Loading and Dilution Model]]==
Greetings Primefac:

I am writing because you did reject my draft "Stochastic Empirical Loading and Dilution Model" (SELDM) Your reason for rejection "Copyright violation" is in error.

I am the author of the SELDM model (please see http://webdmamrl.er.usgs.gov/g1/fhwa/SELDM.htm), which I wrote as a USGS Government Scientist. According to United States Copyright law (http://www.usa.gov/copyright.shtml):

"A United States government work is prepared by an officer or employee of the United States government as part of that person's official duties. It is not subject to copyright in the United States and there are no copyright restrictions on reproduction, derivative works, distribution, performance, or display of the work.

Anyone may, without restriction under U.S. copyright laws:

reproduce the work in print or digital form;
create derivative works;
perform the work publicly;
display the work;
distribute copies or digitally transfer the work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending."
So, as author of the original works, I am not plagiarizing myself and as a US Government Scientist I am following US Copyright law.

I was asked to create a Wikipedia page to be similar to the US EPA stormwater model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Water_Management_Model

I started editing a few articles last year and I hope to contribute to many hydrology & stormwater Wikipedia pages, so my intentions are good.

The subject page is completely factual and has many references to published scientific reports and journal articles, which are the source of the information. I also cross-linked to other wikipedia pages to help potential readers find information. I hope to add graphics and more information as time allows.

Thank you for (hopefully) reconsidering your rejection in light of this information GEGranato (talk) 19:41, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[[User:GEGranato|GEGranato]] ([[User talk:GEGranato|talk]]) 15:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|GEGranato}}, thanks for the heads up, I forgot about the acceptability to copy from the US gov't. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing the article; I know there are many in queue and the editors are busy[[User:GEGranato|GEGranato]] ([[User talk:GEGranato|talk]]) 19:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

== PROD/CSD ==

It doesn't take admin to decline a [[WP:CSD]]. If it has been declined, that means you cannot use the tag again. What you are doing is, you are already using an incorrect tag. Try AfD is you actually want to discuss its deletion. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 12:44, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|OccultZone}}, I misinterpreted the CSD removal rules. My mistake. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

== Transformer Utilization factor AfC ==

I recently accepted an AfC submission that you had previously declined. While the article is just a stub with just a definition at the present time, it still constitutes a topic that is larger than a simple definition. If you feel that I'm mistaken I would not object if you take it to AfD or propose a merge to [[Rectifier]]. Happy editing! [[User:Winner 42|'''Winner 42''']] [[User talk: Winner 42|Talk to me!]] 15:42, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

== [[Draft:The Brass Action|The Brass Action]] ==

Hi there, I am trying to put together an article on The Brass Action, a musical act featured in the film HORNS. It was approved yesterday, but taken down today due to issues with the citations.

I have added a number of citations including IMDB Cast listing, IMDB Sountrack listing and ITUNES soundtrack listings.

Please let me know if the article is now up to standard, and what I need to do to get the page back online.

Thank you so much for your help!

[[User:RichieeihciR|RichieeihciR]] ([[User talk:RichieeihciR|talk]]) 22:05, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{u|RichieeihciR}}, IMDb and iTunes are not valid sources. Please see the page on [[WP:reliable sources]]. If you want more help, stop by the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse|Teahouse]], the [https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/?nick=WPhelp?#wikipedia-en-help IRC channel], or the [[WP:HELPDESK|help desk]] to ask someone for assistance. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 22:08, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


:{{u|Primefac}}, Thanks again for the input. I have included an additional publication discussing their role in the film (the georgia straight; prominent independent news paper in the Vancouver area), a soundtrack news site entitled: "Film Music Daily" and linked directly to the record company's website (link goes right to the album tracklist on their site). I believe these references should be up to par with the requirements. Do you mind taking another look? Thanks! [[User:RichieeihciR|RichieeihciR]] ([[User talk:RichieeihciR|talk]]) 23:00, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

== 17:57:21, 22 January 2015 review of submission by RJHB ==
{{Lafc|username=RJHB|ts=17:57:21, 22 January 2015|declined=Draft:Edward_E._Boccia,_Artist}}


Genevieve Porter 17:57, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi, can you give me an update on this? I am little confused about whether this has been declined again or it the page just shows the first decline. I did try to edit according to your comments. Thank you in advance for any help or assistance you can provide. RJHB.

Latest revision as of 19:42, 3 January 2025


Situational question

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Have a question about a situation I've run across and would like guidance. Not sure if its a "Take to AN for clarification from two accounts, report both users for possible meat or possible noncontributing behavior, or an ignore it for odd but not actionable behavior at this time" situation.

Person A created their account in November, made 6 edits to their userpage, and has since made 388 edits to Person B's sandbox. Person B (created Dec 2022) is still actively editing, made 20 or so edits to mainspace a year or two ago, but has made 5900+ edits to their own sandbox. When I asked Person A last month if there was any connection between the two accounts or that was also their account, I received no response. I have not asked Person B anything since they haven't done anything questionable other than the predominate sandbox editing.

Your, or any TPS thoughts on this situation? Thanks, happy holidays! Zinnober9 (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My immediate thoughts are that it is/was two students working on a school project. I would probably ask B what their intentions are, especially if they're not actually editing other than their userspace. Primefac (talk) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, their sandbox content didn't give me the impression of student project since it was a Big Brother reality show type of page in Spanish with contestant details and tables with elimination status by week. I've run into a fair number of student assignments here and I can typically identify those by their language, focus, and the not infrequent "In Conclusion" section. I'll ask Person B to clarify their intent and connection to Person A and see if I get any response. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow Up

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What up Primefac! So thankful you responded to my question a while back about switching my name on my Wiki page. Can you {{help me}} with a {{subst:Requested move ...}} for my page Rawsrvnt to now be Eddy Puyol as I’m no longer rockin under Rawsrvnt? Thanks! Rawsrvnt (talk) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Answered at User_talk:Rawsrvnt#Help_me! (and fixed wikilinks). Primefac (talk) 13:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Declined history merge of Chris Koclanes/Draft:Chris Koclanes

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Hello Primefac, I noticed you declined the history merge, but now that lists me as the page creator when the creation should rightfully be attributed to @Assadzadeh. I draftified the article as it was an unreferenced BLP and then requested the cross-namespace redirect be deleted. Is there any way to fix this? WP:IAR? Svampesky (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meh... who creates an article isn't always who edits the page first, but sure, I'll go back to your R2 and delete those. Primefac (talk) 20:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My talk page reverts

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Hi! You have called me out for reverting edits on pages like Talk:Legality of conversion therapy. Although that one looks benign, it's part of a pattern of disruptive editing by 2603:7000:B500:5D4:0:0:0:0/64 which led to them being blocked for three months. Their use of talk pages does not line up well with WP:TALK. For example, see Talk:List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage#Large_table_on_talk_page. Currently they are evading their three month block by using a mobile address range: 2600:1017:B800:0:0:0:0:0/40. I can stop reverting borderline talk page edits, but I thought you might like some of the context. Ttwaring (talk) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if you are reverting socking/block evasion, please make sure to use that in your edit summary; otherwise, it looks like you are simply removing talk page sections that might not be perfectly formatted. Thank you for the explanation. Primefac (talk) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. Thanks for the very quick reply! Ttwaring (talk) 14:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. NotAGenious (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted, thanks. Primefac (talk) 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Probation

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Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? Taabii (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. NotAGenious (talk) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your BRFA

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Hello Primefac, your BRFA at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/PrimeBOT 46 was approved. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Primefac (talk) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]