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== Wrongful attribution of the development of the Army Alpha and Army Beta tests to Thorndike == |
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== Wrong date of death? == |
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Two German sources (a Scientific American-book and [http://lexikon.meyers.de/meyers/Thorndike]) state that he died on august, 10. --[[User:De.Gerbil|De.Gerbil]] ([[User talk:De.Gerbil|talk]]) 13:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC) |
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The following paragraph in the Adult Learning section is inaccurate: "Thorndike put his testing expertise to work for the United States Army during World War I. He created both the Alpha and Beta versions that led to today's ASVAB, a multiple choice test administered by the United States Military Entrance Processing Command that is used to determine qualification for enlistment in the United States armed forces. For classification purposes, soldiers were administered Alpha tests. With the realization that some soldiers could not read well enough to complete the Alpha test, the Beta test (consisting of pictures and diagrams) was administered. Such contributions anchored the field of psychology and encouraged later development of educational psychology." |
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:''Encyclopedia Britannica'' and ''International Encyclopedia of the Social & Behavioral Sciences'' both say Aug 9. [[User:Nesbit|Nesbit]] ([[User talk:Nesbit|talk]]) 01:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC) |
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The primary developer of the Army Alpha and Army Beta tests was Robert Yerkes, as evidenced by the Wikipedia page devoted to each test: |
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:: And the right side bar of the article says 7 August. Something is wronge here. [[User:TTL2|TTL2]] ([[User talk:TTL2|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 10:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Alpha |
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== Auxlang research? == |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Beta |
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The article [[History of Interlingua]] says, |
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[[Special:Contributions/129.120.195.115|129.120.195.115]] ([[User talk:129.120.195.115|talk]]) 23:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)PsychologyHistorian |
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:Later that same year [1933], Dr. Edward L. Thorndike published a paper about the relative learning speeds of "natural" and "modular" constructed languages. Both Shenton and Thorndike were major influences on IALA's work from then on. |
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This misattribution has been replaced; Thorndike apparently only participated in the development of the Beta test. |
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However, it doesn't give a cite, or any details about the contents of, Thorndike's research or the paper he published on it. Can anyone identify this paper, summarize its contents, and supply a cite (and maybe a correction, if needed) for the [[History of Interlingua]] article? More specifically, what "natural" and "modular" conlangs did Thorndike use in his study, what were the native languages of his research subjects, and did he test for active as well as passive fluency in the learned conlangs? --[[User:Jim Henry|Jim Henry]] ([[User talk:Jim Henry|talk]]) 14:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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[[User:Cosmicdense|Cosmicdense]] ([[User talk:Cosmicdense|talk]]) 23:26, 1 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Active learning? == |
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== Edward Thorndike 1874-1949 == |
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Thorndyke should not be associated with active learning (however defined), which is a current phase he never used. All learning theorists and theories accept that animals can learn without instruction, which is obvious. The assertion that students learn better "if left alone" is a quite a different principle and not one that Thorndyke ever asserted. I seek to simply remove that sentence, which adds nothing to the article in addition to being false. [[User:Robotczar|Robotczar]] ([[User talk:Robotczar|talk]]) 16:46, 2 March 2015 (UTC) |
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The law of effects- [[User:Minenhle Nkosi|Minenhle Nkosi]] ([[User talk:Minenhle Nkosi|talk]]) 23:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Wrongful attribution of the development of the Army Alpha and Army Beta tests to Thorndike
[edit]The following paragraph in the Adult Learning section is inaccurate: "Thorndike put his testing expertise to work for the United States Army during World War I. He created both the Alpha and Beta versions that led to today's ASVAB, a multiple choice test administered by the United States Military Entrance Processing Command that is used to determine qualification for enlistment in the United States armed forces. For classification purposes, soldiers were administered Alpha tests. With the realization that some soldiers could not read well enough to complete the Alpha test, the Beta test (consisting of pictures and diagrams) was administered. Such contributions anchored the field of psychology and encouraged later development of educational psychology."
The primary developer of the Army Alpha and Army Beta tests was Robert Yerkes, as evidenced by the Wikipedia page devoted to each test:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Alpha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Beta
129.120.195.115 (talk) 23:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)PsychologyHistorian
This misattribution has been replaced; Thorndike apparently only participated in the development of the Beta test.
Cosmicdense (talk) 23:26, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Edward Thorndike 1874-1949
[edit]The law of effects- Minenhle Nkosi (talk) 23:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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