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== Hafindjan? ==
== First cafe in Vienna ==


The first cafe serving Turkish Coffee was opened in Vienna by the Polish nobleman and dyplomat Jerzy Franciszek Kulczycki. He was considered a hero by Austrians for his actions during the Siege of Vienna. In his cafe he used coffee beans left behind by retreating Turkish army. It was the Polish King Jan III Sobieski who defeated Turks and liberated Vienna. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:49.192.132.151 |49.192.132.151 ]] ([[User talk:49.192.132.151 #top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/49.192.132.151 |contribs]]) 03:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)</small>
I've been drinking Turkish coffee for over 30 years. I was introduced to it by my Serbian-born mother-in-law (she also spent significant periods in Bosnia, Croatia and Slovenia when they were all part of Yugoslavia). She always called the little pot with the long handle, what sounds like a "hafindjan", but I see no mention of this or anything like it in the article. Is this a recognised word, and how is it spelt? -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<font face="Papyrus"><sup>[Talk]</sup></font>]] 19:52, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure why this is in the talk section. Are you suggesting it be added to the encyclopedic entry? If so, what the are the sources for the information proposed?[[User:Slacker13|Slacker13]] ([[User talk:Slacker13|talk]]) 16:06, 27 November 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2024 ==
The little pot with the long handle is called [[cezve]], and fincan(exact prounciation like findjan) means cup in Turkish. [[User:KazekageTR|KazekageTR]] ([[User talk:KazekageTR|talk]]) 11:10, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


{{edit semi-protected|Turkish coffee|answered=yes}}
== Preparation guidelines ==
Add to [[:Category:Albanian drinks]]. [[Special:Contributions/2600:6C50:7E00:316:C169:F0B4:EC7A:CFBD|2600:6C50:7E00:316:C169:F0B4:EC7A:CFBD]] ([[User talk:2600:6C50:7E00:316:C169:F0B4:EC7A:CFBD|talk]]) 08:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Charliehdb|Charliehdb]] ([[User talk:Charliehdb|talk]]) 10:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)


== Edit request naming and content ==
Adding preparation guidelines to the article in each of the different geographical areas would help readers who wish to learn how to prepare the drink as it is done in the various areas mentioned. For instance, how much cardamom is typically used in Lebanese preparation? How much coffee is used in Turkey vs Bulgaria? How fine is fine, when discussing the grind? Particle sizes or screen gauges could be used to accurately describe the fineness of the grind.
[[User:Macadk|Macadk]] ([[User talk:Macadk|talk]]) 21:31, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


I’m not a huge fan of the german language Wikipedia but in this particular case, this page is better there in that it doesn’t declare the coffee in question as Turkish. The article in the german language entry is simply called Mokka and states, correctly, that this type of coffee is made in Greece, Turkey, some Arab countries etc. There is in fact not the slightest reason to assume that it was invented by the Turkish. It’s more likely from the Middle East / Arabia in origin but no one really knows. To call it Turkish, then, is ahistorical and, frankly, a bit ridicoulus, given, that of all the peoples mentioned, the Turks have by far the shortest history of even being in the geographical region. I suggest therefore that the article be changed in name and content to reflect that it is a Middle East / Greek / Turkish beverage that is actually subtly different in each region (the greek variety for example is ground finer and thus becomes frothier when cooked). [[User:Nubero|Nubero]] ([[User talk:Nubero|talk]]) 22:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
:Sounds like an interesting project, but there are two difficulties with it:
:# I suspect that local practices vary widely.
:# I doubt that there are any [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] documenting local practices accurately. Cookbooks reflect the authors' preferences, and can't be counted on as accurate documentation.
:Sounds like you should get some research funding to travel around the region documenting practices (and their variation) and publish an article! --[[User:Macrakis|Macrakis]] ([[User talk:Macrakis|talk]]) 23:04, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2024 ==
== Credit missing for text used under "Preparation" ==


{{edit semi-protected|Turkish coffee|answered=yes}}
I was struck by an interesting turn of phrase ("dissolve the flavoursome compounds") and googled it to see if it was perhaps 1911 Britannica or something. The phrase (along with a big chunk of text) appeared in two recent books on books.google, as well as on various websites. Did someone here write it, and have it lifted subsequently by the books and websites, or...? If it isn't original to here, some sort of citation and/or rewrite seems necessary. [[User:Jason Townsend|Jason Townsend]] ([[User talk:Jason Townsend|talk]]) 01:27, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Add to [[:Category:Romani cuisine]] per [[Romani cuisine]]. [[Romani people]] prepare Turkish style coffee. [[Special:Contributions/14.192.209.214|14.192.209.214]] ([[User talk:14.192.209.214|talk]]) 03:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)


{{Not done}}: please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:PianoDan|PianoDan]] ([[User talk:PianoDan|talk]]) 20:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
== small pot for making Turkish coffee nomenclature ==


== Place of origin: The coffee is recognised by the unesco organisation as being in turkey ==
My grandmother called the small pot with long handle for making Turkish coffee a "libriq". We are Sefardic (Hispanic) Jews, grandma was from Izmir, Turkey (Otttoman at the time of her arrival in America in 1903). At home in Pasadena, California, she mostly spoke Spanish, switching to Greek or Turkish only to keep secrets from my mother. For what it's worth, she always did the fortune telling as described in the Wikipedia article. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/23.241.124.170|23.241.124.170]] ([[User talk:23.241.124.170|talk]]) 11:33, 11 May 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I am aware that this website is swimming with people who have strong biases however the coffee is recognised by the unesco foundation as being from turkey. Furthermore just because someone makes a baseless claim that a certain something is from somewhere it does not make it necessarily disputed [[Special:Contributions/148.252.140.116|148.252.140.116]] ([[User talk:148.252.140.116|talk]]) 19:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
== Biased ?? ==

I read the article and it is mentioned as Turkish coffee everywhere in the article. I agree that according to recent advances (UNESCO heritage)
Turks have some "rights" on the coffee. However, what I cannot understand is that the Turkish coffee is a matter of tradition in the Balkans, Arabs, Egypt, Lebanon etc. It is a common tradition and a result of "common" living, and is not something that the Turks brought and established everywhere.

Also, differences in the tradition, preparation exist among different "types" of Turkish coffee. This is not made clear in the article.

Another notable difference is that only in the case of Greece (and Greek coffee) a lot of information are missing. They wrongly mention that it was called Turkish coffee and then changed to Greek. Both terminologies used to exist and in particular, they refer to different tradition in preparation (minor differences) and in the flavor (this can be from mild to major difference). Moreover, there is a whole tradition around greek coffee (or Turkish coffee) in Greece. (For the other countries is it mentioned, but for Greece noting) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/77.162.253.253|77.162.253.253]] ([[User talk:77.162.253.253|talk]]) 00:27, 27 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Of course it's biased. What do you expect from an article called ''Turkish coffee''. Unfiltered coffee is what it really is. --[[User:92slim|92slim]] ([[User talk:92slim|talk]]) 01:39, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Some extra information: Greek coffee is no longer very fashionable among Athenians. The [[Kafenion]] has been replaced by cafes. The traditional brew was first undermined by the Frappé, a chilled concoction that took Greece by storm in the late ’60s and ’70s and hasn't completely let go since. To make it, instant coffee, sugar and water are mixed together in a shaker or by hand until as frothy as meringue; the coffee is then poured into a tall glass and then ice and evaporated milk are added according to taste. By the ’80s, the [[Frappé]] was the number one coffee of choice in the Greek capital. In the ’90s, influenced by international trends, Greeks started drinking [[Espresso]] and [[Cappuccino]]. The last decade has seen [[Espresso Freddo]] (iced espresso) and [[Cappuccino Freddo]] (cappuccino with plenty of ice, topped with frothy cold milk), only found in Greece and the cafes of the Diaspora, overtaking the frappé as the cold coffees of choice, especially among younger Greeks.

Latest revision as of 16:06, 27 November 2024

First cafe in Vienna

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The first cafe serving Turkish Coffee was opened in Vienna by the Polish nobleman and dyplomat Jerzy Franciszek Kulczycki. He was considered a hero by Austrians for his actions during the Siege of Vienna. In his cafe he used coffee beans left behind by retreating Turkish army. It was the Polish King Jan III Sobieski who defeated Turks and liberated Vienna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.192.132.151 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure why this is in the talk section. Are you suggesting it be added to the encyclopedic entry? If so, what the are the sources for the information proposed?Slacker13 (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2024

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Add to Category:Albanian drinks. 2600:6C50:7E00:316:C169:F0B4:EC7A:CFBD (talk) 08:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Charliehdb (talk) 10:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request naming and content

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I’m not a huge fan of the german language Wikipedia but in this particular case, this page is better there in that it doesn’t declare the coffee in question as Turkish. The article in the german language entry is simply called Mokka and states, correctly, that this type of coffee is made in Greece, Turkey, some Arab countries etc. There is in fact not the slightest reason to assume that it was invented by the Turkish. It’s more likely from the Middle East / Arabia in origin but no one really knows. To call it Turkish, then, is ahistorical and, frankly, a bit ridicoulus, given, that of all the peoples mentioned, the Turks have by far the shortest history of even being in the geographical region. I suggest therefore that the article be changed in name and content to reflect that it is a Middle East / Greek / Turkish beverage that is actually subtly different in each region (the greek variety for example is ground finer and thus becomes frothier when cooked). Nubero (talk) 22:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2024

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Add to Category:Romani cuisine per Romani cuisine. Romani people prepare Turkish style coffee. 14.192.209.214 (talk) 03:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 20:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Place of origin: The coffee is recognised by the unesco organisation as being in turkey

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I am aware that this website is swimming with people who have strong biases however the coffee is recognised by the unesco foundation as being from turkey. Furthermore just because someone makes a baseless claim that a certain something is from somewhere it does not make it necessarily disputed 148.252.140.116 (talk) 19:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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