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=====<big>21 April 2015</big>===== |
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*[http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Hackneymarsh User compare report] <small>''Auto-generated every hour.''</small> |
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A [[The Guardian|Guardian]] journalist contacted me with concerns that Contribsx is a sockpuppet of Hackneymarsh. Hackneymarsh was outed in the newspaper several years ago as allegedly being run by a [http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/sep/11/grant-shapps-wikipedia-edited-gaffe prominent UK politician]. I started investigating (independently of the Guardian) whether Contribsx could indeed be a sockpuppet of Hackneymarsh, and the evidence is pretty conclusive: |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Steve_McCabe_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=577857137] Contribsx attacks an opposition MP who had referred Shapps' activities to the police, and who had provided a quote critical of Shapps to the Guardian [http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/sep/11/grant-shapps-wikipedia-edited-gaffe here]. |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Michael_Fabricant&diff=prev&oldid=622439022] Contribsx made a change to Michael Fabricant’s page to say he was sacked by [[Grant Shapps]] rather than on the order of [[Lynton Crosby]]. |
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*Unlike many others in his party, Shapps is a big supporter of gay marriage and got into a spat with several other politicans (cf. [http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/big_divide_opens_between_our_mps_over_gay_marriage_1_1747332 here]) and Contribsx made edits to draw attention to other Cabinet members for supporting gay marriage [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dominic_Grieve&diff=prev&oldid=571948502 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Philip_Hammond&diff=prev&oldid=571946865 here]. |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Justine_Greening&diff=prev&oldid=571124287 This] shows Contribsx making an edit critical of Justine Greening for missing a vote, and being against a third runway at Heathrow. Shapps, has criticised her for this in the past. |
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*Shapps was the Conservative party Chairman who sat in judgement over [[Afzal Amin]] in 2015, after Amin resigned over claims he had links to far-right group the [[English Defence League]]. Contribsx [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Afzal_Amin&diff=prev&oldid=654032173 links] to his successor, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Les_Jones_(politician) created] the page for his previously unknown successor - which was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Les_Jones_(politician) deleted] as failing notability guidelines. he also got into a bit of a spat about on on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Talk:Les_Jones_(politician) the talk page]. |
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*Contribsx [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Karl_Turner_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=655048423 adds] a critical paragraph to a (relatively unknown) opposition party member's page. The key fact here is that less than a month previously, Shapps had been [http://press.labour.org.uk/post/113719766209/shapps-cameron-must-order-immediate-inquiry criticised] by the very same MP! The criticism section is biased and misleading as it fails to mention the full and frank apology, or the fact that the Parliamentary authorities investigated and found very little wrong (he didn't even get a slap on the wrist, so minor was the incident). |
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*Contribsx also edits huge swathes of the [[Grant Shapps]] page, almost always removing criticism. These can be viewed on Contribsx's contributions page and going into detail here would be superfluous... |
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*Finally, the Contribsx account is probably linked to several other IP addresses, in the 85.237.211.x and 85.237.212.x ranges, (Areti IP addresses linked to online marketing) which have been making the same edits since 2013. Examples: |
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**[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Grant_Shapps&diff=548162295&oldid=548033471] Removes material to do with How To Corp and editing of Wikipedia, Adds political credentials. |
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**[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Grant_Shapps&diff=549795981&oldid=549187045] Edits political credentials so he is listed as Chairman of Conservative Party, not listed as Co-Chairman. He is, in fact, Co-Chairman, [[Baron Feldman]] having been Co-Chairman since 2010, initially alongside [[Baroness Warsi]]. |
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**Various ongoing disputes with Edwardx, Kookiethebird, on this issue throughout summer 2013... |
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**Argument with Kookiethebird on edits - http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Grant_Shapps&diff=prev&oldid=570140746#Negative_comments_by_85.237.212.58. The wording used by this IP address contains what I am reliably informed are "standard Shapps lines", including comparing Shapps' previous non-Wikipedia sockpuppetry to JK Rowling using a pen name (used by Nadine Dorries MP to defend Shapps). It also contains a reference to [[Robert Gould Shaw]]. A year earlier after The Guardian reported the first time on Shapps' use of Wikipedia sockpuppets, Willard Foxton [http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/willardfoxton2/100007580/tory-mps-fiddling-with-their-wikipedia-entries-grant-shapps-is-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/ wrote] in Telegraph Blogs about Grant Shapps and compared the length of his entry to Shaw's. |
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**There are also edits made by 78.105.128.156 and 212.118.232.x which act in the same way - edit wars with Edwardx mainly, but also a heated discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grant_Shapps#RfC:_Alternative_identity_practice_-_undue.3F. |
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*On 25 August 2013, the above IP addresses are unable to edit the article any more, as semi-protection is applied to the Grant Shapps article. '''On the same day''', Contribsx is created, and starts by editing relatively random biographies, before moving onto protected or problematic ones after just over ten edits. He starts begins by talking to people he has previously argued with - Edwardx, Tom Morris and Kookiebird to name a few - as shown [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Edwardx&diff=prev&oldid=571127167 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Edwardx&diff=next&oldid=571631427 here], where he makes another JK Rowling reference. |
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I ran a Checkuser, and it yielded a 'likely' result. On the basis of this, along with the wealth of behavioural evidence, I believe that the account is either run by Hackneymarsh directly in violation or being run under the owner of that account's clear direction (as a [[WP:MEAT|meatpuppet]]). It's also pretty clear that along the way, it misled other editors, distorted consensus and avoided potential sanctions (against the sockpuppetry policy), and I believe has also misrepresented its affiliation, this is also a violation of the Terms of Use. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 15:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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:To clarify, I can't say either way that is Shapps' account, or run by him. All I can say is that I believe that it's a sockpuppet of the Hackneymarsh account. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 16:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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*Much of this evidence is unaccepable {{U|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry}} as the arguments is based on what a certain person you ''believe'' may be behind the account has done and said outside Wikipedia. Thus it constitutes outing. You should strike/delete those arguments that are solely based on what a person has said outside Wikipedia, and instead focus on making a direct link between the suspected master and suspected puppet. This "investigation" seems to be far to much influenced by information from The Guardian, instead of following the ordinary procedure for handling SPI cases. [[User:Iselilja|Iselilja]] ([[User talk:Iselilja|talk]]) 17:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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* I wasn't aware there was anything wrong with an editor who previously edited as an IP address later editing as a username. I don't see the relevance of the sections of this account which suggest it may have happened on this occasion. [[User:Hobson|Hobson]] ([[User talk:Hobson|talk]]) 19:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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:* First edit in 2015 (and 2nd since 2012) for this editor who has previously edited conservative/conservative-related articles thus [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=James_Delingpole&diff=prev&oldid=521884763] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Maria_Miller&diff=prev&oldid=510749245] [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 20:05, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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I've blocked the account, but given the press coverage that will crop up, I've created this page to ensure a clear audit trail and list of evidence. For the avoidance of doubt, the investigation was done (and my decision was reached) independently of the Guardian, and at no point was any confidential data shared with them (although they did point out the likelihood of sockpuppetry and explained the connections between the various characters, which is a lot of work - thankyou!). No further action by CUs or admins is required - it just needs noting and filing. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 15:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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:Looks like they were waiting for the block before they published: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/21/grant-shapps-accused-of-editing-wikipedia-pages-of-tory-rivals. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 15:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC) |
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