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I'm not a super-active Wikipedian, but I do like to learn and to contribute where I can - if you would like to pass on any tips to improve my contributions, please do leave me a message!

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		For your glorious 2.5-hour spree on 17 February 2015. Your work has not gone unnoticed :) A2soup (talk) 22:28, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	for changes to coach k IamQuack23 (talk) 23:45, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the appreciation! DivineAlpha 07:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	For your work on the "Locally integrable function" entry. :D Daniele.tampieri (talk) 07:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	I've just made use of one of your images for my mid-Spring userpage design, and wanted to say thank you for providing Wikipedia with such high quality images. Stunning work. Yunshui ^雲 _水 12:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	Having seen your post on Yunshui's talk with a link to your Flikr account , I thought I'd take a look. I was utterly amazed at the excellent, high quality pictures you have. Not only that but you have made them all licence friendly so we can all benefit from them on WP. On behalf of everyone, thank you! Cassianto ^Talk 08:34, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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-* Hi there, [[User:Bofro1|Bofro1]].  Thanks for your message - your deletions and reinstatement of articles can only be done by an administrator so far as I am aware, so you will need to take it up with one of them - I just flagged it as it had cut & paste content throughout.  (Interesting to learn that the US Government puts most work in the public domain when not written by contractors - would be great to see websites putting a copyright statement up to inform readers.)  I believe [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] has also provided some context reasons for why they opted to move the content back to a draft stage for rework; these appear to be in line with Wikipedia's recommendations on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Public_domain_resources#Caveats_and_notes style and data dumping], and also a comment on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest Conflict of Interest editing guidelines].
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-=== Malpi school ===
-Hi Helenabella!
-I am a total enthusiast of Malpi. Yet, as a very burned-out Wikipedian, I must agree that the "tone" is not quite right. I want to thank you for your offer of help to the original editor. I wish I could devote time for that, right now focusing on getting prepared to go to Nepal and help there, sort of priorities... There are also quite a few other great things about Malpi that need to be told, and eventually they should. Just one, and I go back to main priorities: never in my life, anywhere, (and I've been around) have I found a private school that would actually have a line item in their budget to help public schools (i.e., poorest of the poor in Nepal) around them. Malpi does. Etc. (just need to find a published account of that someday and I will add it to the article :-) Thank you for now, and since probably the editor might not be able to reach WP for a while, ahem, circumstances, I beg your kindness and keep the article alive, editing it if you can, please, to be adequate. [[User:Yamaplos|<font color="blue">Yama</font><font color="green">Plos</font>]] [[User talk:Yamaplos|<font color="maroon">talk</font>]] 16:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
-* Hi {{re|Yamaplos}}, Nepal sounds amazing.  Good luck with your volunteering - you are an amazing person.  If no-one else takes it on before I get around to it, I will have a look at the article and see if I can make any improvements if I can find some spare time in coming months! <span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:#7b9222;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px;font-size:80%">&nbsp;[[User:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">Helenabella</font>]] [[User_talk:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">(Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span>!
-=== Criticisms of Socratic thought ===
-I just thought to revert your inclusion of the merging proposal, since :
-*(reason  1) ---> I already have included some of the material of the article into the Socrates article, and the information was subsequently removed via reversion ( made  15:54, 11 April 2015‎ ) which was agreed to on consensus (more or less), for reasons which might be apparent in Talk:Socrates (if you would like to look to see this), so I don't fore-see it being vital to re-include the info for now.
-*(reason 2) ---> I'm thinking the subject of the Criticisms article as not being part of main points of view of [[Socrates]] - [[WP:5P]], in the form that article currently is in in any case, so integrating it into the article would currently create a problem which is unnecessary.
-*(reason 3) ---> in order to give time to locate the scale of the subject identified by the title, since the article is young and the entire amount of data to include into Socrates would perhaps be therefore subsequently prohibitive should a larger article be possible.
-This isn't to wholly discount the value of your including the proposal of course, just that the subject of Socrates doesn't need to include this information in directly for now I'm thinking, and a link might be made to the article from Socrates, which would suffice I'm sure in any case.
-I was curious about this by the way, having looked into your edit history (obviously):
-Total edits:  	2,098
-but
-This user has been on Wikipedia for 7 years, 8 months and 22 days?
-You have made so few edits in 7 years? this seems strange.
-[[User:Whalestate|Whalestate]] ([[User talk:Whalestate|talk]]) 11:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
-* Hey there, thanks so much for the reply, [[User:Whalestate|Whalestate]].  I like the work your have done on the article!  (I believe someone has restored the merge proposal tag overnight, which appears to be generally consistent with the principle of not removing proposals without consensus.)
-: I'm finding the link between that and the section in the main article a little bit opaque as there's no indicating in the Socrates article that the additional article on criticisms exists.  As you suggest, an alternative solution would be to trim back the content in the Criticism section of the Socrates article, roll it into the separate article on criticisms, and include the tag at the top of that section in the Socrates article directing the user to the Criticism article to read more - effectively merging in the other direction.  This could be particularly worthwhile if you're keen to expand the article.
-: I'm interested that you find my edit history interesting!  I made an account many years ago to correct typos and grammatical errors I came across while using the site, and to write local history articles about my area to replace the stubs, so my total number of edits over the period hasn't been particularly consistent.  (And to be honest, I found it incredibly intimidating, but have since discovered that most Wikipedians are lovely people.)  More recently, I've put some time into vandalism patrol and helping copyedit articles written by ESL users - I figured that, given the vast amount of utility I have had from Wikipedia, it was time to pay something back. <span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:#7b9222;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px;font-size:80%">&nbsp;[[User:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">Helenabella</font>]] [[User_talk:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">(Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 01:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-=== Deletion of Goldsboro Web Development ===
-Bad faith = fail.  Wikipedia policy says so.  We have developed the world's most secure CAPTCHA's (verifiable, independent, university research) and you nominate it for deletion because we have yet (or too lazy I admit) to create the Super-Captcha page on Wikipedia.  I suggest a speedy keep under the condition of blissful ignorance of notoriety.
-http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2665896
-http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4088&context=eispapers
-[[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]] ([[User talk:Leewells2000|talk]]) 12:25, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
-* Hi there [[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]]; thanks for your message.  Unfortunately, I really don't understand what you're talking about.  If you have an argument for keeping the article, the best place to put it is in the discussion of the deletion proposal.  If you want to talk about something other than a nomination to keep, it would be great if you could explain what you mean further, as I'm not clear on your point. <span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:#7b9222;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px;font-size:80%">&nbsp;[[User:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">Helenabella</font>]] [[User_talk:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">(Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 01:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-:* Hello Helenabella.  You nominated a page for deletion based upon that there was 1 secondary source and 1 primary source.  Seeing that there was an under-construction wikipage linked which is to the company's flagship product, bad faith was assumed and you made your decision based solely on the references linked on the company page.  That facts are nothing close.  This company and their product are the subject of [https://books.google.com/books?id=Zku5BQAAQBAJ&pg=PA391&lpg=PA391&dq=On+the+Security+of+Text-based+3D+CAPTCHAs&source=bl&ots=neDqfohkoU&sig=Ya5Tey99F5k0Ueo6GmT8l14eeSE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vpRHVe-LGYalgwTvm4GwCw&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=On%20the%20Security%20of%20Text-based%203D%20CAPTCHAs&f=false| Books], [http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2363455| Academic Research], and [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167404814000856| Scientific Research] and was even named as the most secure text-based 3D [[Captcha]]s by a major accredited university in [http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4088&context=eispapers| On the Security of Text-based 3D CAPTCHAs].  Not to sound condescending, but the only reason you would have nominated this page for deletion is that you assumed bad faith and were entirely ignorant of those facts.  This is qualification for a [[WP:SK|speedy keep]].  Please do the right thing.  [[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]] ([[User talk:Leewells2000|talk]]) 05:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-::* Thank you for the clarification, [[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]].  I am of the opinion that the subject does not meet the notability criteria, based on the references and information provided.  However, you are welcome - and strongly encouraged - to discuss at length on the article's nomination page, where your arguments can be considered by the community at large.  <span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:#7b9222;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px;font-size:80%">&nbsp;[[User:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">Helenabella</font>]] [[User_talk:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">(Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 06:13, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-:::* This is your personal opinion of Wikipedia policy then?  This page is the perfect place to discuss it.  Let me ask you 2 questions.  Is the inclusion of two secondary [[WP:RS]] not the Wikipedia standard for notoriety (edit: that demonstrate the "best at" a field or subject)?  Is publicly published and vetted scientific and scholastic research not a [[WP:RS|Reliable Source]]?  I ask because the Wikipedia policy is quite clear and leaves little room for opinion, "... more than one secondary source..." [[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]] ([[User talk:Leewells2000|talk]]) 06:17, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-::::* I will be very happy to discuss further on the nomination for deletion page, [[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]]. <span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:#7b9222;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px;font-size:80%">&nbsp;[[User:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">Helenabella</font>]] [[User_talk:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">(Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 06:22, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-:::::* I have posted, twice -- so feel free to grow your happiness and discuss now.  [[User:Leewells2000|Leewells2000]] ([[User talk:Leewells2000|talk]]) 06:48, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
-=== Ways to improve GlideSlope LLC ===
-Helenabella,
-Thank you for the recommendations. I've made some edits and was wondering if you'd check it out and see how else I can make the page better. I'm very new to editing on Wiki so there is a learning curve here. This is my first attempt at an actual page and I'm finding this whole process very fun and engaging.
-[[User:Milewski90|Milewski90]] ([[User talk:Milewski90|talk]]) 18:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
-* That looks great, [[User:Milewski90|Milewski90]]!  I'm so glad to hear you're having fun, and enjoying learning to write new articles.  Wikipedia also has a couple of pages I've personally found useful (although it's been a long time since I've written a substantial article!) - the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style Manual of Style] and a page that, while called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not 'What Wikipedia is Not'] also provides some solid writing advice. <span style="border:solid 0px;color:#fff;background:#7b9222;box-shadow:darkgray 0px 0px 3px;font-size:80%">&nbsp;[[User:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">Helenabella</font>]] [[User_talk:Helenabella|<font style="color:#fff">(Talk)</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 01:30, 5 May 2015 (UTC)