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= July 26 =


= December 19 =
== Governor Huey Pierce Long Jr actually the grandson of William Rochelle Horton per DNA. ==


== Who is the following unknown? ==
Hello.


When asked '''<span style="color: orange">"WHO IS YOUR X?"</span>''' (X still being unknown to me but is known to the respondents), here are the answers I get:
Is there any DNA proof that Governor & Senator Huey Pierce Long Jr is actually a grandson of William Rochelle Horton?
:
:'''<span style="color: blue">A answers: "A"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: red">B answers: "C"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: red">C answers: "C"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: green">D answers: "F"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: green">E answers: "F"</span>'''
:'''<span style="color: green">F answers: "F"</span>'''


To sum up, the special phenomenon here is that, everybody has their own X (usually), and if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent '''must''' point at ''themself'' as their X.
Thank you for any assistance.


I wonder who the unknown X may be, when I only know that X is a ''natural example from everyday life''. I thought about a couple of examples, but none of them are satisfactory, as follows:
Goodbye. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User: 184.98.61.88| 184.98.61.88]] ([[User talk: 184.98.61.88|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ 184.98.61.88|contribs]]) 02:55, 26 July 2015‎</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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X is the leader of one's political party, or X is one's mayor, and the like, but all of these examples attribute some kind of ''leadership'' or ''superiority'' to X, whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any ''superiority'' of X.
:
Here is a second solution I thought about: X is the ''first (or last)'' person born in the year/month the respondent was born, and the like. But this solution involves some kind of ''order'' (in which there is a "first person" and a "last person"), whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any ''order''. [[Special:Contributions/79.177.151.182|79.177.151.182]] ([[User talk:79.177.151.182|talk]]) 12:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


:Drummer? [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 14:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:I assume that you are referring to the Governor [[Huey Pierce Long]] Jr who was assassinated in 1935: if there is DNA evidence, there doesn't seem to be anything that Google finds to show it. If you are referring to this William Rochelle Horton [http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Horton-1594] (the dates seem about right), it might theoretically be possible to compare DNA of living descendants (assuming there are any) but I think they might want to know ''why'' the relationship was being claimed - where did the suggestion come from? [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 05:10, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::The OP also posted this question on the Math desk. What if everyone says "I'm Spartacus!" ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 14:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::I forgot to add an important point (so I've just added it, thanks to your response): Everybody has their own X (usually). [[Special:Contributions/79.177.151.182|79.177.151.182]] ([[User talk:79.177.151.182|talk]]) 14:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::::What do you mean by "everybody has an X"? A lot of folks have an "ex", but is that what you mean? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 15:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::I mean that everybody has their own X (usually), whether X is one's mayor, or X is the leader of one's political party, and so forth. Additionally, keep in mind that if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent must point at ''themself'' as their X. [[Special:Contributions/79.177.151.182|79.177.151.182]] ([[User talk:79.177.151.182|talk]]) 15:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::(ec)The statement "everybody has their own X" makes no sense to me, and I'm a native English speaker. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 15:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::X is the usual symbol denoting an unknown (as in mathematical equations), but here the unknown is a person, like "a mayor", and the like. [[Special:Contributions/79.177.151.182|79.177.151.182]] ([[User talk:79.177.151.182|talk]]) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:There are too many possible answers that still don't involve order or superiority.
:- Translator
:- Publisher
:- Spokesperson
:- Copyeditor
:- Cleaner
:- Keyholder (person who closes a shop and responsible for turning up in cases of property related emergencies - sometimes it's a manager but sometimes it's merely someone who is willing to stay late or be early)
:- Scribe
:- Accountant
:- Driver
:Basically anything where there's a "role" in a group but usually only one (barring circumstances).
:What are you hoping to accomplish by asking a question like this? [[User:Komonzia|Komonzia]] ([[User talk:Komonzia|talk]]) 15:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thx. {{resolved}} [[Special:Contributions/79.177.151.182|79.177.151.182]] ([[User talk:79.177.151.182|talk]]) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't believe it. A publisher doesn't have necessarily a publisher, because it normally is not an author. A keyholder could be a trusted neighbour,who doesn't work at the shop and is therefore not its own keyholder (at least in relation to the shop). Of course in relation to its own living quarters mostly everybody is a keyholder, but that was not part of the definition. Even a translator doesn't translate itself when it expresses itself in the foreign language. At least not necessarily. Even a cleaner doesn't necessarily cleans up after itself. I know one! Personally!
:::When you're satisfied by these examples that don't match your description, then I would like to see the real description. [[Special:Contributions/176.0.128.31|176.0.128.31]] ([[User talk:176.0.128.31|talk]]) 08:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:So this is interesting linguistically and socially - the use of the word "usually" lets in a lot of the examples given, at least in some societies. However mathematically you are looking for something impossible. Lets assume that everyone has an X (or equivalently ignore those people without an X, who are also no-one's X). The relation partitions the set into subsets (i.e. the subsets include all the elements, and each element is in one and only one subset). Each subset has one self-X call it C for centre, and all the other elements (0 or more of them) point to C. Example, whole numbers under the relation "what is the remainder if you are divided by 5". 5 subsets with C=0, 1, 2, 3, 4. In every case there is a "privileged" centre, whether it would be considered superior, inferior or just special is open to interpretation. You can only have no centres in the case where there are no elements at all. All the best: ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]''<small> 21:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC).</small><br />


== Street View ==
== Battery Back-up on traffic signals ==


Why Googlehas not launched Street View in mainland China? There do exist several user-submitted photos, mostly from landmarks and historical cities, but why Google cars have not traveled there yet? How likely is that in 2034, mainland China will have photos by Google cars if Street view is launched there?
Can Battery-Backup be done on traffic lights if there is incandescent on any of yellow lamp. Because when I went to meet the traffic engineers at Mission Viejo the guy said to have battery backup all three colors will have the LEDs, the way it works is for the first two hours the traffic light will still go through red, green, yellow phase cycle, then the next two hours green lights stop working, what I will see is red lights will flash, after that is full black outs. When I called City of Irvine on the phone the guy told me battery backup can be done if yellow lamps are still incadescents, it is just better when all red, yellow, green is LEDs. I have seen it happen alot when green lights stop working and red lights flash, when that case scenario does it have to do with Battery Backup. I remember ten years ago in my Metropolitan Area there wasn't even LEDs on the Yellow lamps, the LED for most of South Orange County Area were only Red and Green since they were considerably more frequently illuminated than the Yellow ones, because I remember at that time I saw Red lights flash and Green lights stop working I was wondering if it has to do with Battery-Backup.--[[Special:Contributions/107.202.105.233|107.202.105.233]] ([[User talk:107.202.105.233|talk]]) 04:12, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


And, why South Korea, a country with a large economy and almost no bans, still has large unphotographed areas with most minor cities and major freeways are not photographed entirely? And could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 17:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
=== Green lights stay on when there is no vehicle in demand ===
:Here is some info: [[Google Street View in Asia]] There are some places in China where they have it. As to future predictions, Wikipedia can't do that. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 19:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|40bus}} https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/160276 (and see also my comment below). {{tq|could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars}} That is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future, and anything beyond that is unforeseeable. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 01:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::My dream would be every country in the world having full coverage. Is that likely in next 20 years? At least Belarus's lack of Street View should be corrected. I would like to see views from every country. --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 06:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::"[[If wishes were horses, beggars would ride|If wishes were horses...]]". ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 07:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


:Though a multinational, Google is at base an American company, or at least is perceived as such.
I thought is weird when Green lights stay on when there is no traffic in demand, because I know the rule is when there is no traffic movement in demand, the green signal demands suppose to skip completely, but sometimes during weekday rush-hours I have seen that case when green light turns on even when there is no traffic movement in demand. Could this be programming error, when the data is not reading information properly or the computer programming are done on purpose and there is a reason why the traffic engineer done it that way. And also since I tend to obsess traffic lights and want to know all the details as possible, if I want to know left turn vs. straight turns, which corners (side A or B) are more likely to skip the green signal demand, is it better to watch the signals when traffic are greater (Weekday during high volume traffic), or is it a better idea to do it when the traffic volumes are lighter (Like on Weekends or early morning or later at night), because as I noticed when left turn pockets have smaller cars, what happens is the green signals timing are shorter on side A and green signals timing are longer on B. Because sometimes I tend to do it and ignore the fact I may not get the accurate readings I hoped when during that time green lights just goes through full demand phasings.--[[Special:Contributions/107.202.105.233|107.202.105.233]] ([[User talk:107.202.105.233|talk]]) 04:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:Think about the political tensions between the [[Peoples Republic of China]], and the West in general and the USA in particular. Now ask yourself – how ''might'' the [[Government of China]] feel about American-controlled spy-cars driving around the whole of China, photographing everything visible? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 20:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::That is (obviously) not the reason; your tin foil hat is malfunctioning. The USA does not require something as lowtech as a 360 camera mounted on a car to drive through an area to spy on that area. The reason is that Google does not want to waste its money. And China has a habit of creating local state-owned alternatives to foreign services, allowing those to rip off the foreign tech, and then massively disadvantaging the foreign company. They have done this many times before. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 01:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm not suggesting that the ''US'' would ''want'' (or need) to do this. I'm asking how the ''Chinese'' Government would welcome the ''appearance'' of it, particularly in the perception of their own people. International relations and management of internal perceptions are all about opinions, beliefs, and what can be spun, regardless of truth.
:::Recently, in my own country, Chinese visitors and personnel from an ostensible language school fomented a totally spurious 'incident' at a London railway terminus, by approaching a well-known busker and YouTuber filming his and others' performances on a public piano, and then insisting that he stop filming, complaining to police present that he was violating their rights by filming them. This was not done for any valid reason, but (presumably) to try to manipulate public opinion within China, and create a spurious 'grievance' to use in diplomatic discussions. Such games go on all the time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 01:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{tq|I'm asking how the ''Chinese'' Government would welcome the ''appearance'' of it}} I have answered the original question; please don't hijack this thread to ask a vaguely related question and then bring up unrelated stuff (which was not recent but a year ago, and a storm in a teacup, and your conspiracy theory is not supported by evidence). There are plenty of diplomatic incidents between China and the UK; neither side has a need to manufacture one. If you want to ask a new question, please post it in a new section. Thank you, [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Telling a user "your tin foil hat is malfunctioning" is offensive, and is by itself a "hijacking" of this section. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 02:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Incorrect (on both counts). And posting 2 conspiracy theories in 1 thread is a clear sign of a malfunctioning tin foil hat. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 02:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::If you love the Chinese government so much, maybe you should have your own "tin foil hat" checked for malfunctions. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 02:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks for proving my point. The CCP killed insane numbers of people through brutality and incompetence. But we should still call out tin foil conspiracy nonsense. The idea that all conspiracies about the "other" must be true, just because we don't like them, is a very very dangerous one. Just like the idea that everyone who points out that some conspiracies about the "other" are false must be an "other". [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 12:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Considering [[Restrictions on geographic data in China]], it seems correct to mention the Chinese Government as a cause. [[Baidu]] and [[Tencent]] have presumably obtained authorization, because they're not foreign organizations. This incidentally functions as protectionism. I tracked the piano thing down to [[Brendan Kavanagh#St. Pancras Station piano dispute]], and I suppose there ''is'' a tenuous connection since it involves the [[UFWD]] and image rights. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 03:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Google's use of GCJ-02 coordinate data and WGS-84 sattelite images has led to [https://i0.wp.com/www.kronkeling.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Screenshot-2024-09-29-at-12.40.51.png?resize=1024%2C655&ssl=1 weird results] in the past. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 12:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::The Surveying and Mapping Law led to 14 companies being given exclusive rights to map China. All local companies. Google Maps applied and was denied. https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/63636/ https://medium.com/@anastasia.bizyayeva/every-map-of-china-is-wrong-bc2bce145db2 [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 12:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Relations between Google and the Chinese government have been difficult for years. China wants its citizens to see only a censored version of the internet, requiring Google to filter results from its search engine. In case of Street View, the Chinese government is concerned about what their own citizens can see (and I suppose they also want to know who views which streets). Google isn't very eager to comply with all China's request, as that could be quite expensive and bad for their image in less authoritarian states. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 19:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:Why Somalia, Venezuela and Cuba do not have Street View yet? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 23:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::This question can be answered by chatgpt or similar. Or by reading the Wikipedia articles about those countries. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 01:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 21 =
*Assuming these are questions about the US, when there is no signal it is normally dealt with as if there were a red signal. You'll want to look at the relevant state laws for your local jurisdiction. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 04:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


== Britannica ==
*(Your question is very hard to understand. Please repost in your native language, and we will translate it to English.)


:Most traffic lights are still timed, not using sensors to detect when traffic is present, at least where I live. And even where they do use sensors, in the absence of any input from the sensors they might still go back to timing, in case the sensors are broken. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 04:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Why [[Encyclopaedia Britannica]] uses imperial units in its articles, ever for things that are measured in metric in UK such as temperatures, if it is based in UK and read by people in metric countries? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 07:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|40bus}}, it is not based in the UK despite its British sounding name. The Encyclopaedia Britannica has been published in the United States since 1901. That's two years before the first human piloted airplane flight. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::Why it is not based in the UK? And if it is read and edited by people in metric countries, why many of its articles use imperial units first? It even uses British English spelling. And are there any similar UK-based online encyclopedias? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 08:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::No. Go be bored somewhere else. [[User:Nanonic|Nanonic]] ([[User talk:Nanonic|talk]]) 09:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


:::If all else fails, you could try ''asking them''. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 16:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
::I am asking about battery backup does all of the colors have to be LEDs, or you can do it a battery back when the Yellow lights is incadescent or all three colors are incadescents, because I have seen it when red lights flash and the green lights shuts down. I know on that intersection the Yellow light are incadescent, I have seen it when red lights flash and green lights stops working, and all red, yellow and green lamps are incadescent, does the red lights flash and green lights stop have anything to do with battery backup, or there is some other reasons like there is something wrong with the lights traffic engineers have to go through the system and fix it. (Oops I talked too fast on the battery backup part, I do have trouble controlling myself when I discuss traffic lights topic)--[[Special:Contributions/107.202.105.233|107.202.105.233]] ([[User talk:107.202.105.233|talk]]) 04:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Can't you do that for me??? [[User:Tamfang|—Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 21:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== Webpages ==
:::(You really need to read and fix your posts, to make them clearer, before submitting.)


Are there any web pages from late 1980s and early 1990s that are still in their original address, rather than on Internet Archive? Was it common for a company or person to have website in early 1990s? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 07:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I always assumed the reason why traffic lights go to flashing red and yellow during a power outage was that they become unable to coordinate the timing with adjacent intersections, and it's safer to slow people down with flashing yellow and red lights than to have them continue as if nothing was wrong, even though the traffic patterns will be all messed up. A related thought is that if they get the timing signal from AC current, and lose that when they go on DC backup current, then they may have to rely on less accurate timing methods, again making coordination of timing with adjacent intersections impossible. (I've noticed that my clock radio keeps abysmal time when on the battery backup.) Another twist might be if regulations regarding how the lights behave were made when different technology was used, and the rules have never been changed. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 04:44, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


:We have a [[List of websites founded before 1995]]. The IN2P3 site from 1992 can still be visited, where you may enjoy seeing the French National Institute for Nuclear Physics and Particle Physics's contact details, a small picture of the building, and five hyperlinks. The article says there were {{tq|2,879 websites established before 1995}}, so no, it wasn't common. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 09:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
*In [[NJ]] at least, there are two reasons. Flashing red and yellow is common at rural intersections where most of the traffic is along the route with the yellow light, which need only be cautious and not stop. Flashing red and yellow seems also to be the default with outages, which would match with the speculation above. I have never seen this in NYC, and most roads in Jersey that would really need a four way stop have four stop signs or a [[cloverleaf (traffic)]] or a [[traffic circle]]. For a permanent red/yellow, see the intersection of Mathistown Road and [[US Route 9]] {just north of Penny Lane) in [[Little Egg Harbor Township]], NJ. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 21:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::Were there any websites around in 1990? This year feels still relatively recent. And are there any saved TV broadcasts from that time in the web, from any country? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 11:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Are you just randomly asking questions? [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 12:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Take the effort to read the first sentence of [[List of websites founded before 1995]] and you will have the answer to your question. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 10:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


== Did [[Donald Trump]]'s father, ==
:*<small>My uncle lives in Little Egg Harbor. :-) [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 22:35, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


Fred, know [[Rudy Giuliani]]'s father, who is said to have been a mob contract killer? I'm asking because I've heard rumors somewhere that both Donald and Fred had mob contacts in New York City.[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 22:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::It's a very nice area, my parents had a house on Great Bay, which they sold, luckily, a few months before Sandy. My dad keeps a boat in Tuckerton. An update on the light at Rte 9: it has been changed to a normal timed light. Used to the light remaining red, he ran it, not realizing he had to wait for the green until after he made the left on red. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 17:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)</small>


:"Said to have been"; is there a reliable source that claims this? It has also been said that Donald Trump is a shape shifting lizard.<sup>[https://globalnews.ca/tag/donald-trump-is-a-shape-shifting-lizard/]</sup> Harold Giuliani was at the bottom of the low end of shady dealings in the Italian immigrant community. It seems extremely unlikely that Fred Trump, a high-profile successful real-estate developer from the German immigrant community, would have a reason to meet him. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 10:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Three Newport Mansions ==
:::Well, that's what the OP is asking. You're just repeating the OP's question using different words. --[[User:Viennese Waltz|Viennese Waltz]] 10:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::The OP did not ask whether it was plausible but whether it was true. Even if the mob contract killer story should prove more than randomly created innuendo, there is still nothing to suggest the two fathers ever met. The suggested mob contacts would not make this more likely than two random New Yorkers (like Henri who sometimes ordered pizza and Freddy who sometimes delivered pizza) knowing each other. It is very difficult to prove a negative, but the question implied the OP thought it was at least plausible, which, as I tried to point out, it is not. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{small|No insult intended to shape-shifting lizards. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 10:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)}}
::(it's easy for you to google that the rumors are out there, Lambiam.[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 18:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I did not dispute the rumours exist, but IMO they are irrelevant to the question whether the two fathers knew each other, so I ignored them. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:Giuliani gave a eulogy and he probably would have mentioned it if they knew eachother, but it doesn't seem like he did. https://nypost.com/1999/06/30/trump-patriarch-eulogized-as-great-builder/ [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 18:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:https://stevevillano.medium.com/the-trumps-an-incestuous-intertwining-with-organized-crime-ab65316c2b48
:[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 19:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for finding this, Polygnotus. But are you sure Rudy would have mentioned it in his eulogy, being possibly embarrassed about his father's occupation? And mentioning an acquaintance with his father would not make Fred seem more illustrious, which eulogies are meant to do. [[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 19:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::No, I haven't found definitive proof. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 12:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 22 =
I'm trying to confirm the identity of three of the [[mansions]] along lower [[Bellevue Avenue Historic District|Bellevue Ave.]] in [[Newport, Rhode Island]].
# 570 Bellevue Ave, at {{coord|41.4634|-71.3051}}. According to [http://www.newportri.com/newportdailynews/news/page_one/beechwood-museum-project-well-under-way/article_93ae3141-e1ba-5f46-9b93-81445e09ef14.html this article], this is the address of Beechwood. Vast construction activity can be seen in the current Google Earth / Google Maps imagery, tending to confirm this hypothesis.
# 614-618 (approx.) Bellevue Ave., at {{coord|41.4609|-71.3045}}. According to Wikipedia, ''this'' is [[Beechwood (Astor mansion)|Beechwood]], although I'm inclined to doubt it. [http://www.cliffwalk.com/360/360SouthMap.htm This map] (from the [http://www.cliffwalk.com/ Cliff Walk website]) suggests it might be Clarendon Court.
# 624 (approx.) Bellevue Ave, at {{coord| 41.4598|-71.3056}}. [http://variety.com/2010/dirt/real-estalker/its-sunny-and-claus-von-bulows-clarendon-court-yall-1201230700/ This article] suggests that this is Clarendon Court. I'm not sure how reliable this article is; I wouldn't normally look to [[Variety (magazine)|Variety]] as a font of architectural or georeferential knowledge, although the article does happen to include some floor plans which are clearly much closer to the building at 624 than either of the ones at 614-618. We don't have an article on Clarendon Court, although of course it's mentioned in our articles on [[Claus von Bülow|Claus]] and [[Sunny von Bülow]].
I've also got a query open at [[Talk:Beechwood (Astor mansion)]]. I've very close to changing the coordinates on our [[Beechwood (Astor mansion)]] article to match the 570 Bellevue address, but I'd like to double check by confirming what's actually at the 614-618 address if not Beechwood.


== Policy related to places ==
If anyone happens to ''be'' in Newport, there's a historical marker across the street from [[Marble House]] that would probably resolve this. (I was there yesterday, but it wasn't until I got back that I discovered this mystery, and I didn't think to take notes.) —[[User:scs|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:scs|talk]]) 23:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


Hello,
: {{resolved}} Never mind on most of that; someone at [[Talk:Beechwood (Astor mansion)]] has answered already. [[User:scs|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:scs|talk]]) 23:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


I want to add an article for a place in delhi cantonment. However, i am unsure about the relevant Wikipedia policies on this topic. I tried searching on DuckDuckGo to no avail And the results of Wikipedia search gave unrelated things. What are the relevant policies? [[User:KhubsuratInsaan|KhubsuratInsaan]] ([[User talk:KhubsuratInsaan|talk]]) 11:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
= July 27 =


:You may find [[Help:Your first article|this guide]] a good starting point. Be sure in particular to study the section on notability. You may also want to look up articles about similar places (if those articles exist) and review them to get a sense of what does and does not go into such an article.
== What is this heroic trope? ==
:It looks like you're new to Wikipedia. (Welcome!) You may find it easier to write an article from scratch and get it past article review or new pages patrol if you spend some time here first editing other pages and getting to understand the culture. That's not a strict requirement, just something a lot of people benefit from when they first arrive! -- [[User:Avocado|Avocado]] ([[User talk:Avocado|talk]]) 14:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


::And the place for new editors to ask questions is the [[Wikipedia:Teahouse]] (although we're happy to help here too, especially with references). [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 15:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Guys what is this heroic trope?
:::thank you. i will keep this in mind next time i want to ask a question. [[User:KhubsuratInsaan|KhubsuratInsaan]] ([[User talk:KhubsuratInsaan|talk]]) 12:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Let's say Bob is our hero and wants to kill King Charlie who rules as a tyrant in the Kingdom of Alice. Bob wants to kill Charlie for revenge and doesn't care about what happens to the Kingdom. Still, the kingdom is saved when he finished his task. The citizens of Alice wants to congratulate him but Bob simply moves on. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 01:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::thank you for the detailed reply ❤️ [[User:KhubsuratInsaan|KhubsuratInsaan]] ([[User talk:KhubsuratInsaan|talk]]) 12:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
--[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 01:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


== Indian city classification ==
:Possibly either [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDrifter The Drifter] or [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MysteriousStranger Mysterious Stranger]. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:43, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:Sounds very much like the plot to [[The Postman (film)]]. <span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><font face="MV Boli" color="blue">[[User:KageTora|KägeTorä - (<sup>影</sup><sub>虎</sub>)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|もしもし!]])</font></span> 02:03, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::Thanks Dismas for the links. I've looked them I think the "Mysterious Protector" variety of the Mysterious Stranger trope is the closest if we're looking at the citizens of Alice's perspective. --[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 02:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


I was looking at [[Classification of Indian cities]]. In tier Y, there are more than 100 cities listed. But in the reference given there are only 88. I even looked what appears to be official website, there's no new circular of new list. [https://doe.gov.in/orders-circulars/32] Are there any other circulars or should I just remove extra cities. Also, as my main purpose to look for a tier classification, was to use it as approximation for urban (Tier X and Y) and rural districts (Tier Z). Is there any other department which does this kind of classification, please let me know. -- [[User:Parnaval|Parnaval]] ([[User talk:Parnaval|talk]]) 17:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:In the context of Lit Hist, [[Knight Errant]] may be the medieval source model. Compare the Knights of the Round Table to Samurai and Clint-Eastwoodesque laconic heroes who travel the deserts of some autistic loneliness. --[[User:Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM|Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM]] ([[User talk:Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM|talk]]) 09:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
:That circular by the [[Ministry of Finance (India)|Department of Expenditure]] indicates that classification of cities depends on the latest census. Entities using the classification after yearly update seemingly are easy to find ( https://7thpaycommissionnews.in/classification-of-indian-cities/), regarding a specific source explicitly mentioning their is an update the department link to look for has to be related to the census. --[[User:Askedonty|Askedonty]] ([[User talk:Askedonty|talk]]) 21:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 27 =
== service personnel killed during the different wars ==


== [[Black Cube]], Melissa Nathan,&U.S. presidential candidates ==
I am the commander of a VFW from Minnesota and we are looking to build a memorial for service personnel killed during the different wars that are from Minnesota. Once we find the list we will break it down to our local community. Can you help us find this list, any help will be greatly appreciated.
Commander <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rickgwynn|Rickgwynn]] ([[User talk:Rickgwynn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rickgwynn|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->


Black Cube has a wikipedia article, Melissa Nathan is mentioned in the article [[It Ends with Us]]. Both are googleable. My question is if either Black Cube or Melissa Nathan were ever hired to discredit [[John Kerry]] or [[Hillary Clinton]]? I realize that in Melissa Nathan's case, if she had been hired for that, it would probably have been before she formed The Agency Group PR.[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 06:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:Here's a [http://www.virtualwall.org/istate/istatmn.htm list of Vietnam War dead from Minnesota], with their Official Homes of Record. That's an easy one. The Civil War and the world wars are going to be much tougher. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 09:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


:The link should have been to [[It Ends with Us (film)|''It Ends with Us'' (film)]]. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
== Notable people dying at Hiroshima and/or Nagasaki ==


== Griggsville, Missouri? ==
I am very surprised that not even one notable person was among those killed by the atomic bomb. I mean, didn′t these cities have mayors or governors? If someone dropped an atomic bomb today on Somerville, which has now less population than Hiroshima did in 1945, certainly there would be many people with Wikipedia articles among the dead. Maybe we have missed some from Hiroshima? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:582:C55:2A00:E58C:3FFC:F108:2131|2A02:582:C55:2A00:E58C:3FFC:F108:2131]] ([[User talk:2A02:582:C55:2A00:E58C:3FFC:F108:2131|talk]]) 14:29, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:[[Yi Wu]]. [[Senkichi Awaya]]. --[[User:Viennese Waltz|Viennese Waltz]] 14:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


The [[Robert Fiske (actor)]] article claims (without a source) that he was born in [[Griggsville, Missouri]]. I can find no evidence whatever that such a place has ever existed. There is a [[Griggsville, Illinois]], which is about 20 miles northeast of the IL/MO border (which I think is the river, and presumably was in 1889). Was there really a Griggsville in Missouri, or is this a simple mistake? The only substantive author (to the biographical part of the article) is long departed Wikipedia. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]]'''··–·'''[[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 20:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
: [[:Category:Hibakusha]] may help. It includes survivors as well as non-survivors. -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<span style="font-size:85%"><font face="Verdana" ><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></font></span>]] 20:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:I can't find an obit for Fiske in Newspapers.com, and the Findagrave entry [https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11467/robert-fiske] simply says he was born in Missouri. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 21:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:[Edit Conflict] I wondered if it might be something to do with the Mississippi changing its course, but it seems not. However, if Griggsville, Illinois is correct, he could be added to that article's '''Notable person''' [''sic''] section, doubling its complement!
:The 'Missouri' inclusion was (as you may have noted) in the article as created in 2005, so at least we know it's not the result of vandalism.
:I notice that the <u>Un</u>reliable sources IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes and the Internet Broadway Database also state Griggsville, Missouri, which may of course have been taken from Wikipedia, and Find a Grave gives merely Missouri. However, The Movie Database does give Griggsville, Illinois. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 21:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::Indications in Ancestry.com are that he was merely born "in Missouri", not a specific city that I've found. Even though the original article writer has been offline for over 9 years, maybe his email still works? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 21:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


:: I'm wondering if there is some circular [[WP:CITOGENESIS]] between ourselves, Findagrave, and IMDb. I too considered the "moving river" hypothesis, but it's much too far away. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]]'''··–·'''[[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 22:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:I would assume that a large fraction of the problem here boils down to two things:
::: ''[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=irZmAAAAMAAJ&q=%22griggsville+missouri%22 Who Was Who on Screen]'' (1977) confirms he was born in Griggsville, Missouri. No danger of citogenesis there. The search term "Griggsville, MO" throws up a few non-Fiske results on Google and Google Books, but I can't find precisely where it is. --[[User:Antiquary|Antiquary]] ([[User talk:Antiquary|talk]]) 09:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC) Ah, here we are, it's in [[Pike County, Missouri]] [https://www.ciclt.net/sn/clt/capitolimpact/gw_ziplist.aspx?ClientCode=capitolimpact&State=il&StName=missouri&StFIPS=&FIPS=17149]. --[[User:Antiquary|Antiquary]] ([[User talk:Antiquary|talk]]) 10:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
:# Since the city was mostly reduced to ashes, many of the records that would enable us to establish notability may well have been annihilated.
::::Griggsville, IL, is also in [[Pike County, Illinois]] and if you [https://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/62340/ look up the zip code (62340)] given on that web site you also land in Illinois. The two Pike Counties are direct neighbours, but there's no indication of any common history or even a shift in the state border. --[[User:Wrongfilter|Wrongfilter]] ([[User talk:Wrongfilter|talk]]) 10:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
:# English Wikipedia is dependent on it's contributing authors to write about such things. Only a very small percentage of us speak and read Japanese well enough to find and understand the source material, and only a tiny fraction of that faction will be interested in writing biographies and an even smaller fraction of that fraction will be interested in people from that time and place. So the pool of people who are working on such matters is likely to be exceedingly small.
:::::That sounds ominous. Also, the more of my Google and Google Books hits I follow up, the fewer check out. The evidence that this place ever existed outside of Fiske's say-so looks rather slight. [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DNRMAQAAMAAJ&q=%22griggsville,+mo%22&dq=%22griggsville,+mo%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5_93SocqKAxUNXkEAHSw2Mzo4ChDoAXoECAUQAg Here] is one cite from 1907, and there are one or two more from the 19th century, but confusion with Griggsville, IL can't be ruled out. --[[User:Antiquary|Antiquary]] ([[User talk:Antiquary|talk]]) 10:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
: Because of the way Wikipedia is written, it's inevitable that our coverage will be patchy, suffering from "recentism" and a bias towards articles about people from English-speaking countries. Please don't interpret this as people being biassed one way or the other - it's just in the nature of a set of disorganized volunteer contributors.
: [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 04:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


: Thanks everyone. I'll flag the birthplace in the article is questionable (and the whole article as poorly sourced), but I think there's enough uncertainty for me to not "fix" it. And I'll refer to this discussion on the talk page, for the (probably very unlikely event) that some future person cares enough about this rather minor actor to do more thorough research. Thank you. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]]'''··–·'''[[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 08:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:[[Ronald Shaw]] is one notable, a British prisoner of war in Nagasaki. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] ([[User talk:Adam Bishop|talk]]) 12:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


= December 28 =
::He seems to only be notable for being British and killed by the bomb at Nagasaki. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 18:56, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


== Why do news reporters name the programme they are reporting for? ==
:::Yes, yet another yankee friendly fire event. I wish your guys would f**king choose their targets carefully. <span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml"><font face="MV Boli" color="blue">[[User:KageTora|KägeTorä - (<sup>影</sup><sub>虎</sub>)]] ([[User talk:KageTora|もしもし!]])</font></span> 01:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4jRLTPBiDI&t=147s This] is an example by BBC News. ―<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 05:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
::::<small>From the British POV the dropping of the bombs ended the war early, saving millions of lives, including thousands of British prisoners in Japanese POW camps that were closer to death camps. So, that was well worth the price of one British death.


:You have linked to a BBC TV program where at 0:40 the presenter introduces "''Our science correspondent [[Pallab Ghosh]]"'' who signs off his report "''Pallab Ghosh, BBC News''". His report includes statements by two experts each identified by name and affiliation. The video typifies the high standard of jounalism where BBC emphasize distinction between source and editorial content. Incidentally, a good BBC TV reporter tends to become a [[Celebrity|"household name"]] (the likes of [[Clive Myrie]], [[Fiona Bruce]], [[Sophie Raworth]], [[Reeta Chakrabarti]], [[Steve Rosenberg]], Michael Buchanan and more). <small>Edit: I apologise to Pallab Ghosh for initially misspelling his name and thank Antiquary for correcting me.</small> [[User:Philvoids|Philvoids]] ([[User talk:Philvoids|talk]]) 11:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I understand that Japan is now trying to change their Constitution to allow fighting abroad by their military. If this happens, they will find out it's rarely possible to kill only the enemy without any innocents being harmed. The only alternative left is to leave ISIL, etc., unchallenged to grow and commit genocide. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 14:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC) </small>
::[[Pallab Ghosh]], but I'm sure he's used to it. --[[User:Antiquary|Antiquary]] ([[User talk:Antiquary|talk]]) 11:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
::As I understand the question, it is not why reporters identify <u>themselves</u>, but why for instance Ghosh does not sign off by simply saying "''Pallab Ghosh''", full stop. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 10:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:::It's a standard practice, which might even be in their contracts. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 11:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


= July 28 =
== Navigation lights ==


Does the fact that aeroplane/ship navigation lights are green and red cause problems for pilots who are red-green colour blind? How do they deal with that? Can they even become pilots? ―<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 22:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
== Favoured drinks in the American Old West ==


:I couldn't be a pilot because of my red-green colour blindness, but people with a mild version can apparently - [https://www.caa.co.uk/aeromedical-examiners/medical-standards/pilots/medical-conditions/visual/colour-vision-guidance-material-gm/ this] is a link to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority's guidance on colour vision requirements. [[User:Mikenorton|Mikenorton]] ([[User talk:Mikenorton|talk]]) 23:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Comics such as ''[[Lucky Luke]]'' and ''[[Punaniska]]'' have shown that men in the [[American Old West]] generally drunk whisky in saloons in the west. I imagine they may also have drunk beer. In fact, one ''Punaniska'' comic shows [[Calamity Jane]] offering Punaniska some wine, which he immediately refuses, thinking it would challenge his masculinity. What was the situation in real life? Did they really almost always drink whisky? And what sort of whisky? American instead of Scottish or Irish, I should presume? Did they have any preferences or did they just want to get drunk quickly? Did they also drink beer and wine? What about non-alcoholic beverages? [[User:JIP|<font color="#CC0000">J</font><font color="#00CC00">I</font><font color="#0000CC">P</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 20:35, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
::How fascinating. Thanks. ―<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 00:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:Similarly, red-green colourblind people may not be able to become helmsmen.
:You might think it would have been more convenient to make those lights red and cyan, as far fewer people are red-blue colourblind, but when navigation lights on ships were introduced, bright blueish lights couldn't be made. That only became possible with [[gas discharge lamp]]s. Traffic lights and railway signals these days (often using [[LED]]s) use a slightly blueish green, so that most colourblind people can see the difference between red and green. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 11:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::They could have agreed (and still could agree) on assigning distinct flashing patterns, like •••'''——''' and '''—'''••'''—'''•&nbsp;. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 20:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::Wouldn't that be a problem because the sky/ocean is blue? I understand that the lights are used at night so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. ―<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">[[User:Panamitsu|Panamitsu]]</span> [[User_talk:Panamitsu|(talk)]] 22:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:::It would involve more complex lighting circuits/equipment and massive world-wide retrofitting, which (I suggest) would be prohibitively expensive, to solve a relatively minor 'problem' more easily answered by simply not employing colour-blind people in the relevant positions. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.1.223.204|94.1.223.204]] ([[User talk:94.1.223.204|talk]]) 13:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:When I answered telephones and sold passenger tickets for Eurostar I had to pass an [[Ishihara test]], the same as [[signalmen]] and [[train drivers]]. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
::Depending on the signalling system, train drivers may also have to discriminate red from yellow/amber. This is less important for road users. And states of tracks and signals are colour-coded on the computer monitors of signalmen, but it should only take a simple software update to accommodate colourblind signalmen. (Yes, there're still some old-fashioned signal boxes in some countries; I've passed the one at [[Severn Bridge Junction]] on my way to Wales.) I don't see the objection against colourblind ticket sellers. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 11:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 29 =
:[[Absinthe]] might be included in the list of alcoholic drinks, until banned in the US by 1915.


== Domains ==
:As for non-alcoholic beverages, there were many variations on [[root beer]], such as [[ginger ale]] and [[Sarsaparilla (soft drink)|sarsparilla]]. Note that while [[Coca-Cola]] has roots going back to the 19th century, it was sold as a [[patent medicine]] then, in drug stores, not saloons, as it contained cocaine. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] ([[User talk:StuRat|talk]]) 21:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


Are Eritrea's .er and Belarus's .by ever used in domain hacks? .er could be used in shortcut to Blogger, blogg.er, like goo.gl and youtu.be, and .by could be used in domains such as drive.by and in Nordic place namesmas ''by'' means "village" in Swedish and "city" in Norwegian and Danish. And can South Africa's .za and India's .in be used directly after the main part, such as in piz.za and drive.in? Also, can .pl, .cz, .sk and .hu addresses contain diacritics, such as gdańsk.pl, česko.cz, košice.sk and magyarország.hu? --[[User:40bus|40bus]] ([[User talk:40bus|talk]]) 10:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:[[Moonshine]] and [[Corn_whiskey]]. Note the former has a name from England but took on its own prominence in America, while the latter, strictly speaking, is a product of the [[New World]]. Here are two relevant books I found on Google that would almost certainly give you better info and more context [https://books.google.com/books?id=MVhOAQAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=alcohol+old+west&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAGoVChMI9q-P87uAxwIVypENCh2MygA-#v=onepage&q=alcohol%20old%20west&f=false] [https://books.google.com/books?id=YuwTAAAAYAAJ&q=alcohol+old+west&dq=alcohol+old+west&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CD4Q6AEwA2oVChMI9q-P87uAxwIVypENCh2MygA-]. [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 13:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


:See [[URL#Internationalized URL]]. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 11:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:Bourbon whiskey was the preferred drink because (a) it was relatively cheap, being made mainly from corn (maize), the most widely grown crop in America, and (b) it was easy to store and transport. In the old west the ingredients were not available to brew beer locally, and it didn't keep well enough to be transported by railroad at reasonable expense. Wine was easier to store and transport than beer, but it was still a luxury item. It wasn't just the old west by the way -- even in the east Bourbon was by far the most commonly consumed form of alcohol. [[User:Looie496|Looie496]] ([[User talk:Looie496|talk]]) 13:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:Plusimpavidus has only answered the last sentencee.
::Hm. As for east of the Mississippi, recall [[Johnny Appleseed]] gave the gift of ''booze'' to the (then) western frontier - his nurseries and orchards did not make tasty apples, they were used for [[hard cider]] and [[applejack]], which were both very popular as well - very easy to make in large swathes of the country, less so west of the Mississippi at that time. I'm not saying that apple booze was more popular than Bourbon necessarily, just that it was much easier to make at home than beer, and required less special processing. [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 15:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:The answer to the first part is entirely dependent on the policy of the controller of the ccTLD in question, and that controller may or may not publish a policy. Technically, of course they could be used: the government of Tonga sells [[.to]] domains to any interested party, as I presume you know.
:According to our article [[.by]] {{tq|The Operations and Analysis Centre under the President of the Republic of Belarus allows for anyone (not only for those who reside in Belarus) to register a second level domain such as something.by}}, and it also says {{tq|he .by code is used for domain hack by institutions from the German state of Bavaria (German: Bayern), such as bayern.by, the Bavarian Tourism Agency. Since "by" means "town" or "city" in Norwegian, it's also used by some Norwegian newspapers, such as osl.by for an Oslo newspaper, and trd.by for a Trondheim newspaper}}, however, neither of these statements appear to be sourced. When I just tried it, trd.by seems to redirect to a Norwegian casino site.
:Our articles [[.er]] and [[.za]] say nothing about whether the ccTLDs are available to anybody outside Eritrea and South Africa respectively. [[.in]] doesn't explicitly address the question, but in talking about the use of subdomains it repeats "in India" several times. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


== Colored asphalt markings ==
:::A webpage called [http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-saloons.html ''Saloons of the American West''] mentions "Cactus Wine, made from a mix of tequila and peyote tea, and Mule Skinner, made with whiskey and blackberry liquor. The house rotgut was often 100 proof, though it was sometimes cut by the barkeep with turpentine, ammonia, gun powder or cayenne" but says that the main drink was [[rye whiskey]] or bourbon, also beer served at room temperature. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 20:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Thanks, now I want to try Cactus wine. Might be hard to do this weekend, but I can probably manage a Mule Skinner :) [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 13:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::<small>Be sure to put on some [[Mule Skinner Blues]] when you do so. I'm partial to the Jerry Reed/Chet Atkins version, though the Bill Monroe take on it is choice as well... --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 19:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</small>


What's the purpose of [https://imgur.com/a/jkQ4i40 such blue, green, pink marks] on street grounds? I've seen them in multiple places in [[Warsaw]] (typically in non-traffic places, such as sidewalks) where they've stayed for several months or even years without being erased. From what I've read, those marks can be made for some roadworks, but I'm not sure. [[User:Brandmeister|Brandmeister]]<sup>[[User talk:Brandmeister|talk]]</sup> 20:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
= July 29 =


:I've seen them used for several purposes, mostly for marking the course of some underground pipe or cable, but also for marking a distance such as 500m from a given spot. In the first case, there is a sequence of similar markings, not too far apart from each other. In the second case the marking is usually accompanied by a number or some code. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 20:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Chance of being born? ==
::See [[utility location]]. --[[Special:Contributions/142.112.149.206|142.112.149.206]] ([[User talk:142.112.149.206|talk]]) 22:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


:In my experience (UK) they appear in preparation for invasive ground works, most recently in our road prior to the installation of the third set of broadband cables under our pavement. Apparently, existing suppliers and their customers get sniffy if new upstart suppliers not only add their own cables, but put a shovel through the existing cables in the process! Different colours may denote gas, water and telecommunication lines.
So, at one stage you consisted of spermatozoa in your dads testicles. I read that a mans testicles make 1000 sperm a second. So that's 60,000 sperm a minute. I'll let you do the math, but on a particular day your parents decided to have sex and fertilised your mommas egg.
:There is also an occasional rash of markings that outline potholes; whether this is done to guide the repairers of potholes, or as a placebo to pacify local road users, is not always clear. It is possible that the process accompanies the calculation of a cost for the work; the expenditure may not be forthcoming.{{cn}} <span class="nowrap">[[User:Verbarson|--&nbsp;Verbarson&nbsp;]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Verbarson|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Verbarson|edits]]</sub></span> 21:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)


= January 1 =
Have I got the premise wrong or what, but did you I and everyone else have an astronomically minute chance of even existing in the first place. I mean, if another sperm got inside the egg or you didn't survive the ride through your dads epidermis and into your moms vagina you wouldn't have existed? Would the baby born be a difference person altogether. Or are are all sperm the same.
: Woody Allen in 1972 made a hilarious film about this fascinating question. [[User:Akseli9|Akseli9]] ([[User talk:Akseli9|talk]]) 11:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
: There must be theories that approve, and others that disapprove, that the principle of natural selection, applies also among spermatozoa. [[User:Akseli9|Akseli9]] ([[User talk:Akseli9|talk]]) 11:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::<small>{{U|Akseli9}}: I think you mean prove and disprove. Theories are not a kind of thing that can approve or disapprove things. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>Yes. that's what I meant. Thanks. [[User:Akseli9|Akseli9]] ([[User talk:Akseli9|talk]]) 12:58, 29 July 2015 (UTC)</small>
:No, they're all genetically different. See [[Meiosis]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:Depending on what your Mom was getting up to, our article [[Sperm competition]] may be relevant. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/212.95.237.92|212.95.237.92]] ([[User talk:212.95.237.92|talk]]) 12:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

:You can ignore biology and instead read up on [[interpretations of probability]], and the [[ontology]] of [[identity]], both in terms of [[personal identity]] and [[identity_(philosophy)]]. When people have sex, we can come up with an estimate of chances of pregnancy. When a woman gets pregnant, we can relatively easily look at some statistics and come up with an estimate of percent chance of live birth. But none of that rationale applies to the chances of me being me, or you being you (and we need to acknowledge that this concept is ill defined). Colin and TPFKA's links are good and relevant to the bits of biology, and you should also be aware of [[nature vs. nurture]] and [[twin studies]] and [[heritability]]. But I think this is really a question about philosophy of probability and identity :) [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 13:36, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

: The probability of "you" being precisely, genetically "you" if anything whatever were different at the time of your conception is indeed astronomically small. However, not all of what makes you be "you" is in your genes. A lot of it is how your parents treated you, what foods you ate, what diseases you got - that kind of thing. If a different sperm had made it into your egg, a lot of that "nurture" stuff would be very similar. So, it would be as if you were your own twin (but not identical-twin). Twins that are non-identical are very often quite similar.

: But in terms if being identically you - everything depends on ''how'' identical you're talking about.

: If the same sperm met the same egg - but three days into pregnancy, if your mother had eaten something different than she actually did - then that would undoubtedly change some microscopic detail in that tiny ball of cells - and an entirely different "you" would emerge from that process. Genetically identical to the you that we know - but still more different than one of a pair of identical twins. (My step-daughters are identical twins - and I can tell you that they are far from identical in many significant ways).

: Conclusion: The "you" that would emerge if there were a difference in some small detail surrounding your conception, pregnancy, birth and early childhood would range from roughly what a fraternal twin would be like - to roughly what an identical twin would be like - depending on whether the change happened before or after sperm-met-egg.
: [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 14:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

::I'd point out that a mere difference in a meal is unlikely to have an effect on a fetus unless it contains a [[teratogenic]] toxin. The fetus will thrive so long as threshold levels of the necessary nutrients are available, and certain toxins are avoided or minimized. The sort of change that could effect a baby during development is a [[somatic mutation]]. Such a mutation at a very early stage in one of two twins might have noticeable effects. Otherwise twins are sometimes differentiated by position in the womb, especially the relative size and bloodflow from the respective or shared placentas.

::The overall concept here is historical contingency. There are certain focal points such as which numbers you choose and which numbers are drawn in a lottery. The path you take to get to the store to buy the ticket might not matter at all, if you have already made up your mind on the numbers you want beforehand. In his book ''[[Wonderful Life (book)|Wonderful Life]]'', S J Gould examines contingency in depth. He gives the case of a single dog that is believed to have killed a significant portion of the wild [[Kiwi]]s of New Zealand. Had it not been stopped, it might have driven the species extinct.

::Another example is my neighbor, who did not work at the World Trade Center, but who was at a conference there on the Windows of the World restaurant, and was killed on 9/11. Certain events are [[canalization (genetics)|canalized]], and others are [[tipping point]]s. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 20:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

:I thought this nonsense had been zapped. Be that as it may, the OP's premise is wrong. You don't start out as a sperm, you start out as a fertilized egg. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 22:21, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::The definition of "you" is kinda fuzzy. All of the information needed to describe "you" (genetically speaking) is present before sperm meets egg - so who is to say when "you" are "you"? One of the severe problems with the abortion debate is in answering this very question - contraception for the catholic church revolves around similar issues. Personally, I liked Monty Python's "Every Sperm is Useful" song - which encapsulates a yet further extreme point of view. Coming up with a specific point of origin is horribly misleading. I'm a very different person than I was (say) 10 years ago - was I "me" then? I just don't think you can pick a single point and call that "The Moment". [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 23:29, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Even the most staunch opponents of abortion define a human being's starting point as conception. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 23:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::<small>I think you meant staunch supporters, BBB. I would protest that I started from a pair of [[isogamete]]s. I oppose assigning gender roles such as sperm and egg. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 00:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</small>
::::::I should have said they don't consider sperm and egg separately to be human beings. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 00:06, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::::The definition, Steve, isn't really fuzzy. Instead, ''you are you'' is axiomatic. By definition you have to be you, because if you weren't you, then the you you really were would be you, and I'd be writing in response to someone else. It's like the [[anthropic principle]]. It's not really a physical explanation of anything, but it is necessarily true epistemologically as a precursor of debate. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 00:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::The term, from formal logic, is [[Tautology (logic)|Tautology]], which in the non-pejorative sense, just means "universally true under all conditions"; a classic example is the [[Law of identity]] or the famous Aristotlean proposition [[A is A]]. That is, we must always assume that a thing is always itself, for any given complete definition of the thing. The idea that "you are always you" is a logical tautology; for the reasons noted (if you weren't you, you'd be a different person, but that different person would still be you, and you wouldn't then have been the person you are now, so that you wouldn't be you anymore. Or, you are always you). Besides that particular tautology, is the definition of [[The Universe]] which, under it's simple definition of "everything", means that one cannot have more than one universe, merely only that one can learn more about what is in The Universe. Other classic logic or philosophy problems are based on tautologies, some with long histories, such as the ''[[primum movens]]'' argument for God, or the philosophy behind the [[atomists]] like [[Democritus]]. --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 19:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

== Today's Feature Picture ==

Today's feature picture of NGC 1097 shows it rotating clockwise, the picture in the posted link to NGC 1097 shows it rotating counter clockwise. Which is correct?[[Special:Contributions/70.30.7.110|70.30.7.110]] ([[User talk:70.30.7.110|talk]]) 14:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

:For convenience, [[NGC 1097]]. I think OP is comparing the top image [[File:Coiled_Galaxy.jpg|thumb|right|150 px| galaxy appears to be rotating clockwise]] to the bottom image. [[File:Phot-35d-04-fullres.jpg|thumb|right|150 px| galaxy appears to be rotating counterclockwise]]
:I think it's safe to say that the images were not take from different sides of the galaxy :) I cannot tell which one is a [[mirror image]]. I don't think it can be the case that they are showing different structures in the same galaxy from the same perspective without reflection - but I don't know much about spiral galaxies. Both images are sourced - top one is a composite image here [http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1442.html] [[Spitzer Space Telescope]], bottom one (seems to be a single image?) here [http://www.eso.org/public/images/eso0438d/], from the [[Very Large Telescope]]. [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 15:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

:I downloaded them both, and rotated and flipped one of them so that their orientation is similar. The patterns of various points of light seem to match. So one of the images was flipped, either purposely or by the type of telescope they were using. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 17:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

*This sort of flipping of images is quite common in old-style print media dealing with physical plates that can be reversed accidentally during layout or printing. Unless there's written words in the image it is often impossible to know which is right. This seems less likely in digital media, however. [[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 17:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

:If you do a Google Images search on "NGC 1097" - you get a surprising mixture of clockwise and anticlockwise images. I'd say that the preponderance of them is per the top image - but it's definitely not a slam-dunk one way or the other. Most JPEG files have orientation data stored in an "EXIF" record - which should (in theory) tell you when they are rotated or flipped and in which direction. However, when people use a program to crop, recolor or adjust contrast on the image, that data is easily destroyed...so it's still not conclusive evidence. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 19:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::The EXIF orientation value indicates the raster order of the encoded pixels, not the orientation of the image relative to some canonical source image. Almost all software writes JPEG images in the standard raster order (English reading order) with a matching (or omitted) orientation tag, because that's the most compatible format. This doesn't destroy any (relevant) information because the raster order is a low level encoding detail, like the Huffman tables. As far as I know, no software ever writes the reflected raster orders (2, 4, 5, 7). -- [[User:BenRG|BenRG]] ([[User talk:BenRG|talk]]) 23:27, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Indeed. But many software packages don't pay attention to the EXIF data, resulting in these kinds of issues. I know of at least a couple of cellphone camera apps that use the reflection flag when using the 'front camera' in order that the user gets a mirror-imaged photo when taking a 'selfie' (which is what they seem to expect will happen). It's plausible that astronomy packages might use it to flip pictures from telescopes that naturally produce inverted images. That would be a fairly plausible explanation as to how this came about...but it's just speculation at this point since there are no unusual EXIF flags in either of those two JPEG files and there are many software packages that might have been used to crop the images that both ignore and destroy the EXIF information. (The EXIF flags aren't a part of the core JPEG specification anyway - so there is some justification for doing that.) [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 14:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:Can we figure out which is correct by the [[Lyon-Meudon Extragalactic Database|LEDA]] [http://leda.univ-lyon1.fr/ledacat.cgi?o=NGC%201097 entry]?&mdash;[[User:EricR|eric]] 00:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::I spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to figure this out with no luck.. I am really curious and hope that someone comes along with the right answer. I did learn that [http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2002/03/ some galaxies have a spin different than what you would think] and [http://www.universetoday.com/87488/are-the-galaxies-in-our-universe-more-right-handed-or-left-handed/ based on this alone] I'd put my money on the bottom image and that the top one was flipped because of the type of telescope or imaging instruments, but that's just an unsubstantiated guess. Maybe someone could repost this to the science section?? [[User:Void burn|Void burn]] ([[User talk:Void burn|talk]]) 05:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

*If OP or anyone else wants to cut to the chase, they could ask NASA here [http://www.nasa.gov/about/contact/ask_nasa_form.html], though it may take them a few weeks to get back to you. Could probably even point them to this thread for context. [[User:SemanticMantis|SemanticMantis]] ([[User talk:SemanticMantis|talk]]) 20:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::I submitted a request with the link semantic mantis posted. Whenever they reply to me I'll be sure to post it on the WP science reference desk. Hopefully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Miscellaneous#Today.27s_Feature_Picture this link] still works for 10 to 15 days. [[User:Void burn|Void burn]] ([[User talk:Void burn|talk]]) 22:20, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

:[http://www.wikisky.org/?object=NGC+1097&img_source=GALEX This] shows the rotation relative to the rest of the night sky. [[Special:Contributions/209.149.113.45|209.149.113.45]] ([[User talk:209.149.113.45|talk]]) 19:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

= July 30 =

== Article About Resona Holdings ==

The picture in the article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resona_Holdings#Group_companies
shows three pictures of which the upper one is not associated with Resona. The picture called "Resona Holdings headquarters in Koto, Tokyo, Japan" is not Resona's location.
Resona is located in a nearby Building few meters away.
You may check this on Resona's homepage:
http://www.resona-gr.co.jp/holdings/english/about/outline/office.html

Regards,
Thomas <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/117.55.68.49|117.55.68.49]] ([[User talk:117.55.68.49|talk]]) 00:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:You need to work this out on the article's talk page. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 00:05, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

== How To Turn A Published Page into a Draft ==

Hi, I just created a page and would like to put it into draft mode because I dont know it if is ready for wikipedia before it gets deleted. Is there a way i can do this and if so how ? Thank you for your valued time. --[[User:NewRoyalty|NewRoyalty]] ([[User talk:NewRoyalty|talk]]) 18:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

:See [[Wikipedia:Moving a page]]. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 18:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::You got your answer here, but this is the sort of question that can be answered at the [[WP:HD|Help Desk]] or the [[WP:Teahouse/Questions|Teahouse]], which are for questions ''about Wikipedia''. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:47, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

== Requests for past medical records ==

I am currently on Klonopin and Adderall and have been for 2 years. I recently moved and have had to see a new psychiatric provider. This new psychiatrist is demanding that I sign a release of information for him to speak with, and obtain records from, my previous provider if he is to continue prescribing those medications, but otherwise does not object to prescribing them. I do not want to release these records, and I am wondering if this is typical (for a psychiatrist to refuse to prescribe medications without speaking with and reviewing the records of the previous provider). <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/169.244.19.161|169.244.19.161]] ([[User talk:169.244.19.161|talk]]) 20:16, 30 July 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I would think ''any'' doctor would want to see a given patient's history on ''any'' medical matter. As to whether he can compel you to do so, that's a legal question and we can't answer it, first because we're not allowed to, and second because any laws relating to this subject could be specific to your region. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 20:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

:Since medical professionals don't (or aren't supposed to) prescribe medication to anyone who walks in an asks for it (especially substances with a high potential for abuse like Adderall), in order to prescribe without going through typical diagnostic processes, they would need verification from whoever performed the diagnosis and determined these two medicines are most appropriate. After all, there's no way for them to tell someone like yourself who has been taking medication and simply wants to continue it from someone [[malingering]] or otherwise being dishonest. Laws about medical privacy vary depending on where you are. If you're in the US, take a look through [http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/special/mhguidance.html the Department of Health and Human Services page about sharing information related to mental health]. &mdash; <tt>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></tt> \\ 23:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

= July 31 =

== Urinating / defecating simultaneously? ==

Are humans the only species that can accomplish the same task at once? Obviously, I only speak for myself here but I've never witnesses any other common animal do the same thing, save for birds. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/42.114.5.58|42.114.5.58]] ([[User talk:42.114.5.58|talk]]) 08:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I've seen dogs do that. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] ([[User talk:Adam Bishop|talk]]) 10:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

: ... and cows. You need more observations. [[User:Dbfirs|''<font face="verdana"><font color="blue">D</font><font color="#00ccff">b</font><font color="#44ffcc">f</font><font color="66ff66">i</font><font color="44ee44">r</font><font color="44aa44">s</font></font>'']] 12:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::And birds and reptiles, who do not have separate exits in their lower abdomens, but rather have a single orifice called a [[cloaca]] which is used for all reproductive and excretory function. See [[Bird anatomy#Kidney]] which describes who urine moves from the kidneys to the cloaca, but rather then be excreted directly, migrates back into the colon where it mixes with bird feces before being eliminated together with them. --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 16:58, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

== Double Digestion in humans ==

Does double digestion ever occur in humans? It seems odd that most of our primate relatives practise it and we do not. In fact, a lot of food seems to quite literally go down the toilet merely because it never had a chance to get absorbed the first time round. (Onions, sweet corn, seeds) Or, did humans naturally engage in behaviour and it simply being a case of modern culture deeming it inappropriate. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.106.33.151|76.106.33.151]] ([[User talk:76.106.33.151|talk]]) 16:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Humans don't do this because their digestive system is extremely efficient (although yours seems a bit sub-standard). Animals that do this generally have poor digestive systems and/or have a primary food source that is difficult to digest, such as rabbits and grass. Which primates do you think eat their own faeces?--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 17:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::It just says gorillas and chimps here [[Coprophagia]]--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 17:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Okay, but given that those are our two closest relatives, it's reasonable to ask about why humans generally don't do it. I suspect that our guts aren't particularly more efficient than a chimp's (though, if so, that would serve as at least a provisional explanation). [[Special:Contributions/64.235.97.146|64.235.97.146]] ([[User talk:64.235.97.146|talk]]) 18:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

:Humans tend to cook their food. Cooking food makes it easier to digest. It is very rare for animals to cook their food. [[Special:Contributions/209.149.113.45|209.149.113.45]] ([[User talk:209.149.113.45|talk]]) 19:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::Probably not ''on purpose'', anyway. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 19:17, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

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December 19

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Who is the following unknown?

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When asked "WHO IS YOUR X?" (X still being unknown to me but is known to the respondents), here are the answers I get:

A answers: "A"
B answers: "C"
C answers: "C"
D answers: "F"
E answers: "F"
F answers: "F"

To sum up, the special phenomenon here is that, everybody has their own X (usually), and if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent must point at themself as their X.

I wonder who the unknown X may be, when I only know that X is a natural example from everyday life. I thought about a couple of examples, but none of them are satisfactory, as follows:

X is the leader of one's political party, or X is one's mayor, and the like, but all of these examples attribute some kind of leadership or superiority to X, whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any superiority of X.

Here is a second solution I thought about: X is the first (or last) person born in the year/month the respondent was born, and the like. But this solution involves some kind of order (in which there is a "first person" and a "last person"), whereas I'm not interested in this kind of solution - involving any order. 79.177.151.182 (talk) 12:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drummer?  Card Zero  (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The OP also posted this question on the Math desk. What if everyone says "I'm Spartacus!" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots14:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to add an important point (so I've just added it, thanks to your response): Everybody has their own X (usually). 79.177.151.182 (talk) 14:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by "everybody has an X"? A lot of folks have an "ex", but is that what you mean? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean that everybody has their own X (usually), whether X is one's mayor, or X is the leader of one's political party, and so forth. Additionally, keep in mind that if any respondent points at another respondent as the first respondent's X, then the other respondent must point at themself as their X. 79.177.151.182 (talk) 15:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)The statement "everybody has their own X" makes no sense to me, and I'm a native English speaker. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
X is the usual symbol denoting an unknown (as in mathematical equations), but here the unknown is a person, like "a mayor", and the like. 79.177.151.182 (talk) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are too many possible answers that still don't involve order or superiority.
- Translator
- Publisher
- Spokesperson
- Copyeditor
- Cleaner
- Keyholder (person who closes a shop and responsible for turning up in cases of property related emergencies - sometimes it's a manager but sometimes it's merely someone who is willing to stay late or be early)
- Scribe
- Accountant
- Driver
Basically anything where there's a "role" in a group but usually only one (barring circumstances).
What are you hoping to accomplish by asking a question like this? Komonzia (talk) 15:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thx.
Resolved
79.177.151.182 (talk) 15:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe it. A publisher doesn't have necessarily a publisher, because it normally is not an author. A keyholder could be a trusted neighbour,who doesn't work at the shop and is therefore not its own keyholder (at least in relation to the shop). Of course in relation to its own living quarters mostly everybody is a keyholder, but that was not part of the definition. Even a translator doesn't translate itself when it expresses itself in the foreign language. At least not necessarily. Even a cleaner doesn't necessarily cleans up after itself. I know one! Personally!
When you're satisfied by these examples that don't match your description, then I would like to see the real description. 176.0.128.31 (talk) 08:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So this is interesting linguistically and socially - the use of the word "usually" lets in a lot of the examples given, at least in some societies. However mathematically you are looking for something impossible. Lets assume that everyone has an X (or equivalently ignore those people without an X, who are also no-one's X). The relation partitions the set into subsets (i.e. the subsets include all the elements, and each element is in one and only one subset). Each subset has one self-X call it C for centre, and all the other elements (0 or more of them) point to C. Example, whole numbers under the relation "what is the remainder if you are divided by 5". 5 subsets with C=0, 1, 2, 3, 4. In every case there is a "privileged" centre, whether it would be considered superior, inferior or just special is open to interpretation. You can only have no centres in the case where there are no elements at all. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Street View

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Why Googlehas not launched Street View in mainland China? There do exist several user-submitted photos, mostly from landmarks and historical cities, but why Google cars have not traveled there yet? How likely is that in 2034, mainland China will have photos by Google cars if Street view is launched there?

And, why South Korea, a country with a large economy and almost no bans, still has large unphotographed areas with most minor cities and major freeways are not photographed entirely? And could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars? --40bus (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is some info: Google Street View in Asia There are some places in China where they have it. As to future predictions, Wikipedia can't do that. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots19:07, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@40bus: https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/160276 (and see also my comment below). could North Korea ever get Street View by Google cars That is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future, and anything beyond that is unforeseeable. Polygnotus (talk) 01:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My dream would be every country in the world having full coverage. Is that likely in next 20 years? At least Belarus's lack of Street View should be corrected. I would like to see views from every country. --40bus (talk) 06:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"If wishes were horses...". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots07:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Though a multinational, Google is at base an American company, or at least is perceived as such.
Think about the political tensions between the Peoples Republic of China, and the West in general and the USA in particular. Now ask yourself – how might the Government of China feel about American-controlled spy-cars driving around the whole of China, photographing everything visible? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 20:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is (obviously) not the reason; your tin foil hat is malfunctioning. The USA does not require something as lowtech as a 360 camera mounted on a car to drive through an area to spy on that area. The reason is that Google does not want to waste its money. And China has a habit of creating local state-owned alternatives to foreign services, allowing those to rip off the foreign tech, and then massively disadvantaging the foreign company. They have done this many times before. Polygnotus (talk) 01:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not suggesting that the US would want (or need) to do this. I'm asking how the Chinese Government would welcome the appearance of it, particularly in the perception of their own people. International relations and management of internal perceptions are all about opinions, beliefs, and what can be spun, regardless of truth.
Recently, in my own country, Chinese visitors and personnel from an ostensible language school fomented a totally spurious 'incident' at a London railway terminus, by approaching a well-known busker and YouTuber filming his and others' performances on a public piano, and then insisting that he stop filming, complaining to police present that he was violating their rights by filming them. This was not done for any valid reason, but (presumably) to try to manipulate public opinion within China, and create a spurious 'grievance' to use in diplomatic discussions. Such games go on all the time. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 01:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm asking how the Chinese Government would welcome the appearance of it I have answered the original question; please don't hijack this thread to ask a vaguely related question and then bring up unrelated stuff (which was not recent but a year ago, and a storm in a teacup, and your conspiracy theory is not supported by evidence). There are plenty of diplomatic incidents between China and the UK; neither side has a need to manufacture one. If you want to ask a new question, please post it in a new section. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Telling a user "your tin foil hat is malfunctioning" is offensive, and is by itself a "hijacking" of this section. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots02:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect (on both counts). And posting 2 conspiracy theories in 1 thread is a clear sign of a malfunctioning tin foil hat. Polygnotus (talk) 02:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you love the Chinese government so much, maybe you should have your own "tin foil hat" checked for malfunctions. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots02:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for proving my point. The CCP killed insane numbers of people through brutality and incompetence. But we should still call out tin foil conspiracy nonsense. The idea that all conspiracies about the "other" must be true, just because we don't like them, is a very very dangerous one. Just like the idea that everyone who points out that some conspiracies about the "other" are false must be an "other". Polygnotus (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Considering Restrictions on geographic data in China, it seems correct to mention the Chinese Government as a cause. Baidu and Tencent have presumably obtained authorization, because they're not foreign organizations. This incidentally functions as protectionism. I tracked the piano thing down to Brendan Kavanagh#St. Pancras Station piano dispute, and I suppose there is a tenuous connection since it involves the UFWD and image rights.  Card Zero  (talk) 03:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Google's use of GCJ-02 coordinate data and WGS-84 sattelite images has led to weird results in the past. Polygnotus (talk) 12:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Surveying and Mapping Law led to 14 companies being given exclusive rights to map China. All local companies. Google Maps applied and was denied. https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/63636/ https://medium.com/@anastasia.bizyayeva/every-map-of-china-is-wrong-bc2bce145db2 Polygnotus (talk) 12:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relations between Google and the Chinese government have been difficult for years. China wants its citizens to see only a censored version of the internet, requiring Google to filter results from its search engine. In case of Street View, the Chinese government is concerned about what their own citizens can see (and I suppose they also want to know who views which streets). Google isn't very eager to comply with all China's request, as that could be quite expensive and bad for their image in less authoritarian states. PiusImpavidus (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why Somalia, Venezuela and Cuba do not have Street View yet? --40bus (talk) 23:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This question can be answered by chatgpt or similar. Or by reading the Wikipedia articles about those countries. Polygnotus (talk) 01:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 21

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Britannica

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Why Encyclopaedia Britannica uses imperial units in its articles, ever for things that are measured in metric in UK such as temperatures, if it is based in UK and read by people in metric countries? --40bus (talk) 07:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

40bus, it is not based in the UK despite its British sounding name. The Encyclopaedia Britannica has been published in the United States since 1901. That's two years before the first human piloted airplane flight. Cullen328 (talk) 07:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why it is not based in the UK? And if it is read and edited by people in metric countries, why many of its articles use imperial units first? It even uses British English spelling. And are there any similar UK-based online encyclopedias? --40bus (talk) 08:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. Go be bored somewhere else. Nanonic (talk) 09:27, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If all else fails, you could try asking them. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots16:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can't you do that for me??? —Tamfang (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Webpages

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Are there any web pages from late 1980s and early 1990s that are still in their original address, rather than on Internet Archive? Was it common for a company or person to have website in early 1990s? --40bus (talk) 07:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have a List of websites founded before 1995. The IN2P3 site from 1992 can still be visited, where you may enjoy seeing the French National Institute for Nuclear Physics and Particle Physics's contact details, a small picture of the building, and five hyperlinks. The article says there were 2,879 websites established before 1995, so no, it wasn't common.  Card Zero  (talk) 09:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Were there any websites around in 1990? This year feels still relatively recent. And are there any saved TV broadcasts from that time in the web, from any country? --40bus (talk) 11:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you just randomly asking questions? Polygnotus (talk) 12:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Take the effort to read the first sentence of List of websites founded before 1995 and you will have the answer to your question.  --Lambiam 10:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did Donald Trump's father,

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Fred, know Rudy Giuliani's father, who is said to have been a mob contract killer? I'm asking because I've heard rumors somewhere that both Donald and Fred had mob contacts in New York City.Rich (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Said to have been"; is there a reliable source that claims this? It has also been said that Donald Trump is a shape shifting lizard.[1] Harold Giuliani was at the bottom of the low end of shady dealings in the Italian immigrant community. It seems extremely unlikely that Fred Trump, a high-profile successful real-estate developer from the German immigrant community, would have a reason to meet him.  --Lambiam 10:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's what the OP is asking. You're just repeating the OP's question using different words. --Viennese Waltz 10:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The OP did not ask whether it was plausible but whether it was true. Even if the mob contract killer story should prove more than randomly created innuendo, there is still nothing to suggest the two fathers ever met. The suggested mob contacts would not make this more likely than two random New Yorkers (like Henri who sometimes ordered pizza and Freddy who sometimes delivered pizza) knowing each other. It is very difficult to prove a negative, but the question implied the OP thought it was at least plausible, which, as I tried to point out, it is not.  --Lambiam 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No insult intended to shape-shifting lizards. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(it's easy for you to google that the rumors are out there, Lambiam.Rich (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not dispute the rumours exist, but IMO they are irrelevant to the question whether the two fathers knew each other, so I ignored them.  --Lambiam 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Giuliani gave a eulogy and he probably would have mentioned it if they knew eachother, but it doesn't seem like he did. https://nypost.com/1999/06/30/trump-patriarch-eulogized-as-great-builder/ Polygnotus (talk) 18:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://stevevillano.medium.com/the-trumps-an-incestuous-intertwining-with-organized-crime-ab65316c2b48
Rich (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for finding this, Polygnotus. But are you sure Rudy would have mentioned it in his eulogy, being possibly embarrassed about his father's occupation? And mentioning an acquaintance with his father would not make Fred seem more illustrious, which eulogies are meant to do. Rich (talk) 19:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I haven't found definitive proof. Polygnotus (talk) 12:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 22

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Hello,

I want to add an article for a place in delhi cantonment. However, i am unsure about the relevant Wikipedia policies on this topic. I tried searching on DuckDuckGo to no avail And the results of Wikipedia search gave unrelated things. What are the relevant policies? KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 11:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may find this guide a good starting point. Be sure in particular to study the section on notability. You may also want to look up articles about similar places (if those articles exist) and review them to get a sense of what does and does not go into such an article.
It looks like you're new to Wikipedia. (Welcome!) You may find it easier to write an article from scratch and get it past article review or new pages patrol if you spend some time here first editing other pages and getting to understand the culture. That's not a strict requirement, just something a lot of people benefit from when they first arrive! -- Avocado (talk) 14:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And the place for new editors to ask questions is the Wikipedia:Teahouse (although we're happy to help here too, especially with references). Alansplodge (talk) 15:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you. i will keep this in mind next time i want to ask a question. KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 12:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for the detailed reply ❤️ KhubsuratInsaan (talk) 12:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indian city classification

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I was looking at Classification of Indian cities. In tier Y, there are more than 100 cities listed. But in the reference given there are only 88. I even looked what appears to be official website, there's no new circular of new list. [2] Are there any other circulars or should I just remove extra cities. Also, as my main purpose to look for a tier classification, was to use it as approximation for urban (Tier X and Y) and rural districts (Tier Z). Is there any other department which does this kind of classification, please let me know. -- Parnaval (talk) 17:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That circular by the Department of Expenditure indicates that classification of cities depends on the latest census. Entities using the classification after yearly update seemingly are easy to find ( https://7thpaycommissionnews.in/classification-of-indian-cities/), regarding a specific source explicitly mentioning their is an update the department link to look for has to be related to the census. --Askedonty (talk) 21:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 27

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Black Cube, Melissa Nathan,&U.S. presidential candidates

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Black Cube has a wikipedia article, Melissa Nathan is mentioned in the article It Ends with Us. Both are googleable. My question is if either Black Cube or Melissa Nathan were ever hired to discredit John Kerry or Hillary Clinton? I realize that in Melissa Nathan's case, if she had been hired for that, it would probably have been before she formed The Agency Group PR.Rich (talk) 06:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The link should have been to It Ends with Us (film).  --Lambiam 19:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Griggsville, Missouri?

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The Robert Fiske (actor) article claims (without a source) that he was born in Griggsville, Missouri. I can find no evidence whatever that such a place has ever existed. There is a Griggsville, Illinois, which is about 20 miles northeast of the IL/MO border (which I think is the river, and presumably was in 1889). Was there really a Griggsville in Missouri, or is this a simple mistake? The only substantive author (to the biographical part of the article) is long departed Wikipedia. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 20:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find an obit for Fiske in Newspapers.com, and the Findagrave entry [3] simply says he was born in Missouri. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[Edit Conflict] I wondered if it might be something to do with the Mississippi changing its course, but it seems not. However, if Griggsville, Illinois is correct, he could be added to that article's Notable person [sic] section, doubling its complement!
The 'Missouri' inclusion was (as you may have noted) in the article as created in 2005, so at least we know it's not the result of vandalism.
I notice that the Unreliable sources IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes and the Internet Broadway Database also state Griggsville, Missouri, which may of course have been taken from Wikipedia, and Find a Grave gives merely Missouri. However, The Movie Database does give Griggsville, Illinois. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 21:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indications in Ancestry.com are that he was merely born "in Missouri", not a specific city that I've found. Even though the original article writer has been offline for over 9 years, maybe his email still works? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots21:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm wondering if there is some circular WP:CITOGENESIS between ourselves, Findagrave, and IMDb. I too considered the "moving river" hypothesis, but it's much too far away. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 22:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who Was Who on Screen (1977) confirms he was born in Griggsville, Missouri. No danger of citogenesis there. The search term "Griggsville, MO" throws up a few non-Fiske results on Google and Google Books, but I can't find precisely where it is. --Antiquary (talk) 09:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC) Ah, here we are, it's in Pike County, Missouri [4]. --Antiquary (talk) 10:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Griggsville, IL, is also in Pike County, Illinois and if you look up the zip code (62340) given on that web site you also land in Illinois. The two Pike Counties are direct neighbours, but there's no indication of any common history or even a shift in the state border. --Wrongfilter (talk) 10:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds ominous. Also, the more of my Google and Google Books hits I follow up, the fewer check out. The evidence that this place ever existed outside of Fiske's say-so looks rather slight. Here is one cite from 1907, and there are one or two more from the 19th century, but confusion with Griggsville, IL can't be ruled out. --Antiquary (talk) 10:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks everyone. I'll flag the birthplace in the article is questionable (and the whole article as poorly sourced), but I think there's enough uncertainty for me to not "fix" it. And I'll refer to this discussion on the talk page, for the (probably very unlikely event) that some future person cares enough about this rather minor actor to do more thorough research. Thank you. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 08:04, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 28

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Why do news reporters name the programme they are reporting for?

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This is an example by BBC News. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have linked to a BBC TV program where at 0:40 the presenter introduces "Our science correspondent Pallab Ghosh" who signs off his report "Pallab Ghosh, BBC News". His report includes statements by two experts each identified by name and affiliation. The video typifies the high standard of jounalism where BBC emphasize distinction between source and editorial content. Incidentally, a good BBC TV reporter tends to become a "household name" (the likes of Clive Myrie, Fiona Bruce, Sophie Raworth, Reeta Chakrabarti, Steve Rosenberg, Michael Buchanan and more). Edit: I apologise to Pallab Ghosh for initially misspelling his name and thank Antiquary for correcting me. Philvoids (talk) 11:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pallab Ghosh, but I'm sure he's used to it. --Antiquary (talk) 11:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand the question, it is not why reporters identify themselves, but why for instance Ghosh does not sign off by simply saying "Pallab Ghosh", full stop.  --Lambiam 10:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a standard practice, which might even be in their contracts. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots11:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Does the fact that aeroplane/ship navigation lights are green and red cause problems for pilots who are red-green colour blind? How do they deal with that? Can they even become pilots? ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't be a pilot because of my red-green colour blindness, but people with a mild version can apparently - this is a link to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority's guidance on colour vision requirements. Mikenorton (talk) 23:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How fascinating. Thanks. ―Panamitsu (talk) 00:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Similarly, red-green colourblind people may not be able to become helmsmen.
You might think it would have been more convenient to make those lights red and cyan, as far fewer people are red-blue colourblind, but when navigation lights on ships were introduced, bright blueish lights couldn't be made. That only became possible with gas discharge lamps. Traffic lights and railway signals these days (often using LEDs) use a slightly blueish green, so that most colourblind people can see the difference between red and green. PiusImpavidus (talk) 11:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They could have agreed (and still could agree) on assigning distinct flashing patterns, like •••—— and ••• .  --Lambiam 20:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't that be a problem because the sky/ocean is blue? I understand that the lights are used at night so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would involve more complex lighting circuits/equipment and massive world-wide retrofitting, which (I suggest) would be prohibitively expensive, to solve a relatively minor 'problem' more easily answered by simply not employing colour-blind people in the relevant positions. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.223.204 (talk) 13:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I answered telephones and sold passenger tickets for Eurostar I had to pass an Ishihara test, the same as signalmen and train drivers. DuncanHill (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Depending on the signalling system, train drivers may also have to discriminate red from yellow/amber. This is less important for road users. And states of tracks and signals are colour-coded on the computer monitors of signalmen, but it should only take a simple software update to accommodate colourblind signalmen. (Yes, there're still some old-fashioned signal boxes in some countries; I've passed the one at Severn Bridge Junction on my way to Wales.) I don't see the objection against colourblind ticket sellers. PiusImpavidus (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 29

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Domains

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Are Eritrea's .er and Belarus's .by ever used in domain hacks? .er could be used in shortcut to Blogger, blogg.er, like goo.gl and youtu.be, and .by could be used in domains such as drive.by and in Nordic place namesmas by means "village" in Swedish and "city" in Norwegian and Danish. And can South Africa's .za and India's .in be used directly after the main part, such as in piz.za and drive.in? Also, can .pl, .cz, .sk and .hu addresses contain diacritics, such as gdańsk.pl, česko.cz, košice.sk and magyarország.hu? --40bus (talk) 10:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See URL#Internationalized URL. PiusImpavidus (talk) 11:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Plusimpavidus has only answered the last sentencee.
The answer to the first part is entirely dependent on the policy of the controller of the ccTLD in question, and that controller may or may not publish a policy. Technically, of course they could be used: the government of Tonga sells .to domains to any interested party, as I presume you know.
According to our article .by The Operations and Analysis Centre under the President of the Republic of Belarus allows for anyone (not only for those who reside in Belarus) to register a second level domain such as something.by, and it also says he .by code is used for domain hack by institutions from the German state of Bavaria (German: Bayern), such as bayern.by, the Bavarian Tourism Agency. Since "by" means "town" or "city" in Norwegian, it's also used by some Norwegian newspapers, such as osl.by for an Oslo newspaper, and trd.by for a Trondheim newspaper, however, neither of these statements appear to be sourced. When I just tried it, trd.by seems to redirect to a Norwegian casino site.
Our articles .er and .za say nothing about whether the ccTLDs are available to anybody outside Eritrea and South Africa respectively. .in doesn't explicitly address the question, but in talking about the use of subdomains it repeats "in India" several times. ColinFine (talk) 20:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Colored asphalt markings

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What's the purpose of such blue, green, pink marks on street grounds? I've seen them in multiple places in Warsaw (typically in non-traffic places, such as sidewalks) where they've stayed for several months or even years without being erased. From what I've read, those marks can be made for some roadworks, but I'm not sure. Brandmeistertalk 20:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen them used for several purposes, mostly for marking the course of some underground pipe or cable, but also for marking a distance such as 500m from a given spot. In the first case, there is a sequence of similar markings, not too far apart from each other. In the second case the marking is usually accompanied by a number or some code.  --Lambiam 20:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See utility location. --142.112.149.206 (talk) 22:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In my experience (UK) they appear in preparation for invasive ground works, most recently in our road prior to the installation of the third set of broadband cables under our pavement. Apparently, existing suppliers and their customers get sniffy if new upstart suppliers not only add their own cables, but put a shovel through the existing cables in the process! Different colours may denote gas, water and telecommunication lines.
There is also an occasional rash of markings that outline potholes; whether this is done to guide the repairers of potholes, or as a placebo to pacify local road users, is not always clear. It is possible that the process accompanies the calculation of a cost for the work; the expenditure may not be forthcoming.[citation needed] -- Verbarson  talkedits 21:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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