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== Typo? ==

"Georgia consists of 159 counties, second only to Texas, with 254.[43] Georgia had 161 counties until the end of 1931, when Milton and Campbell were merged into Fulton."

Math Pop Quiz: If Georgia has 161 counties and two of them merge to form one county, how many counties does Georgia have left? Answer: 160, not 159. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.82.40.211|67.82.40.211]] ([[User talk:67.82.40.211|talk]]) 01:19, 16 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Fulton County already existed, which is why it says "Milton and Campbell were merged into Fulton." - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 01:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

==More on Pre-Columbian cultures?==
The article only has one throwaway sentence about Georgia's history before Columbus. Although there are fewer sources available, could this be expanded a little? [[User:BenedictSpring|BenedictSpring]] ([[User talk:BenedictSpring|talk]]) 16:03, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

== Sound spellings ==

I think every sound spelling you have for states is highly condescending. Do you really think people are unable to properly pronounce Georgia? I'm getting rid of them all.--[[Special:Contributions/67.84.73.254|67.84.73.254]] ([[User talk:67.84.73.254|talk]]) 21:36, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
:Wikipedia has a global audience, not just an American one. I am certain that many readers of this article will be unsure of how to pronounce the name, just as you might appreciate guidance in pronouncing [[Liège]] or [[Łódź]]. So please don't remove all the pronunciation aids. — [[User:Alarob|ℜ<small>ob C.</small>]] <small>''alias'' [[User_talk:Alarob|'''ALAROB''']]</small> 21:55, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Someone is again requesting that [[Georgia (Country)]] be moved to [[Georgia]]. Given that it would impact this page, I think it's worth mentioning here. See the discussion [[Talk:Georgia_(country)#Requested_move_29_September_2023|here]]. -- [[User:Rockstone35|<span style="color:#DF0101"><b>Rockstone</b></span>]][[User talk:Rockstone35|<span style="color:0000ff;font-size:15px"><sup><small><b>Send me a message!</b></small></sup></span>]] 04:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: withdrawn. [[User:Od Mishehu|עוד&nbsp;מישהו]] [[User talk:Od Mishehu|Od&nbsp;Mishehu]] 05:46, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


== Move discussion in progress ==
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[[:Georgia (U.S. state)]] → {{no redirect|Georgia, U.S.}} – Usually, to disambiguate place names by their location, we use commas - for example, we have [[Paris, Denmark]], not [[Paris (Denmark)]]. And while the state does need to be disambiguated from [[Georgia (country)|a country in Eurasia by the same name]], I think that it clearly trumps anything else in the US for being the [[WP:PTOPIC|primary topic]]. [[User:Od Mishehu|עוד&nbsp;מישהו]] [[User talk:Od Mishehu|Od&nbsp;Mishehu]] 11:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


== Is U.S. really necessary? ==
*'''Oppose'''. Per [[WP:NCDAB]], I get that it would not technically be inappropriate to disambiguate an ambiguous geographical name by "adding the name of a higher-level administrative division, separated by a comma". However, the current approach of parenthetically appending the generic class is ''also'' perfectly permissible, and is actually preferable in this case because it can be consistently applied in the same fashion to ''both'' of the subjects that need to be disambiguated: Georgia the state and Georgia the country. (The administrative division approach ''cannot'' be consistently applied to both, since there is no clear administrative division above the nation of Georgia.) [[User:Huwmanbeing|╠╣uw]]&nbsp;<span style="font-size:smaller"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Huwmanbeing|talk]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></span> 14:00, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
**If we needed such consistancy, then the page about capital city of the US would need to be called [[Washington (city)]] - but we call it [[Washington, D.C.]]; this is even though we can't disambiguate the other one ([[Washington (state)]]) with the administrative division above it. [[User:Od Mishehu|עוד&nbsp;מישהו]] [[User talk:Od Mishehu|Od&nbsp;Mishehu]] 20:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
**:We title the article "Washington, D.C." because that's common usage. It's not common usage (AFAIK) to call the state of Georgia "Georgia, U.S." [[User:Huwmanbeing|╠╣uw]]&nbsp;<span style="font-size:smaller"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Huwmanbeing|talk]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></span> 15:21, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - current name fits the disambiguation guidelines on titles best. However, [[Georgia, U.S.]] (and all variations with and without punctuation) should redirect to the US state, if they don't already exist. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 14:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. The current name is fine and is how we usually disambiguate. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 17:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. I'm not convinced by the argument made by the OP, who is only using city, town and village articles like [[Paris, Denmark]] as a comparison. [[WP:NCPLACE#Disambiguation]] lists a wide range of topics and locations other than settlements, and they may either use the parenthetical disambiguation or the comma-convention. I could conversely argue that the U.S. state should remain having the parenthetical disambiguation just like [[Victoria (Australia)]], [[Amazonas (Brazilian state)]], [[Santa Cruz Department (Bolivia)]], and other provinces, states, and first-level administrative country subdivisions. Scanning through all the sub-cats of [[:Category:First-level administrative country subdivisions]], there is a mixture of both parenthetical disambiguation and comma-conventions, so unless there is a consensus for a massive page move to one or the other, there is not really any compelling reason for a single page move here. [[User:Zzyzx11|Zzyzx11]] ([[User talk:Zzyzx11|talk]]) 03:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' There are at least three other places called Georgia in the U.S. [[User:DrKiernan|DrKiernan]] ([[User talk:DrKiernan|talk]]) 19:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - per my peers. [[User:ArcAngel|<span style='color: #ffb612;background-color: #1e1e1e;'><b>&nbsp;&nbsp;ArcAngel&nbsp;&nbsp;</b>]] [[User talk:ArcAngel|(talk)]] </span>) 02:38, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - per the reasons of the other opposers. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 13:39, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. The Paris example isn't good because the ''State, U.S.'' construction isn't used like ''City, State''. It's just called ''Georgia'' (which is a U.S. state). '''[[User:kennethaw88|kennethaw88]]''' • [[User talk:kennethaw88|talk]] 02:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - we're not going into this debate again. '''[[User:Old Naval Rooftops|O]][[User:Old Naval Rooftops|N]][[User:Old Naval Rooftops|R]]''' [[User talk:Old Naval Rooftops|(talk)]] 03:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - Per Zzyzx11. Comparing "the hamlet of Paris, Denmark" to a federated state that is much larger (geographically and economically) than many countries (including the aforementioned Denmark) is very much a comparison of apples to oranges. Further, if reliable sources do use "Georgia, U.S." to disambiguate the topic, it is infrequent enough that it isn't even a consideration as an article title per [[WP:AT|Wikipedia policy]]. The parenthetical disambiguation is the best choice because it serves the intended purpose; it lets readers know the most common title for the subject, which is Georgia, yet uses a parenthetical disambiguation to show ''which'' Georgia it is. I believe that the current title is in line with Wikipedia policy and reliable sources, and the justification that cities use commas (which is reflected by reliable sources) doesn't show that this article's title should be changed. - [[User:Aoidh|Aoidh]] ([[User talk:Aoidh|talk]]) 04:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
*If I were equipped with tools; today, I would almost certainly be closing this discussion instead of saying: "of course not." It befuddles me that [[User:Od Mishehu|Od Mishehu]] could bring such an untenable proposition.—[[User:John Cline|John Cline]] ([[User talk:John Cline|talk]]) 05:42, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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Yes, there’s two Georgias. However, the other Georgia is a country, not a state. A state is not a country, meaning there’s only one thing that could be logically referred to as a state. Unless there’s another country with a state system and a Georgia, then it’s an unnecessary disambiguation. If there is, I congratulate Georgia on her successful mitosis. However, in case some people say this is too ambiguous, in the interest of maximum clarity so nobody gets confused, I think the name “Georgia, the Fourth Constitutional State of the United States of America (not the country)” would suffice as an alternative. <span style="background-color: rgb(240, 233, 205); padding: 3px">[[User:StreetcarEnjoyer|<span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">StreetcarEnjoyer</span>]] [[User talk:StreetcarEnjoyer|<span style="color: rgb(237, 50, 45);">(talk)</span>]]</span> 15:51, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
== The Walking Dead Success.. ==


:The term "state" also often refers to a country, i.e. [[state (polity)]] and [[sovereign state]]. Thus, "Georgia (state)" is still ambiguous. [[User:Loytra|Loytra]] ([[User talk:Loytra|talk]]) 10:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Shouldn't be mentioned, that the whole "The Walking Dead" Success story of [[Robert Kirkman]] is setup in Georgia (why this lead me to here) ? [[Atlanta]] [[Savannah, Georgia]], etc.)
:The name “Georgia, the Fourth Constitutional State of the United States of America (not the country)” would not be the right way to go. First off, the average person would say "Georgia, the state," or "Georgia, the U.S. state," if they are referring to Georgia (U.S. State). Second the "(not the country)" part is unnecessary, since it was just said that "Georgia" is in the "United States of America," debunking that, or a person may think that the U.S. is not a country. I'm not trying to insult you, but this proposed name change is unnecessary. [[User:Codename Abrix|Codename Abrix]] ([[User talk:Codename Abrix|talk]]) 19:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
[[The Walking Dead (TV series)]] [[The Walking Dead (comic book)]] and [[The Walking Dead (video game)]] has a huge success and fan base and is famous worldwide.
::They were being hyperbolic :P [[User:Loytra|Loytra]] ([[User talk:Loytra|talk]]) 23:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
Those series make me really curious to visit once Georgia, so I can imagine, it could have some influence for the touristic industry of Georgia.
[[User:Fatomeb|Fatomeb]] ([[User talk:Fatomeb|talk]]) 09:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


== fix link to dab page please in hatnote ==
== Manual of Style (Dates) ==


Please add (disambiguation) [[Special:Contributions/43.224.39.221|43.224.39.221]] ([[User talk:43.224.39.221|talk]]) 13:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
BilCat reverted an edit to Georgia citing the above. However, the relevant passage reads


:We do [[Special:Contributions/2603:8080:D03:89D4:895E:1EDA:C1C3:5F95|2603:8080:D03:89D4:895E:1EDA:C1C3:5F95]] ([[User talk:2603:8080:D03:89D4:895E:1EDA:C1C3:5F95|talk]]) 03:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
{{tq|Dates of events in countries using the Gregorian calendar at that time are given in the Gregorian calendar. This includes some of the Continent of Europe from 1582, the '''British Empire from 14 September 1752''' and Russia from 14 February 1918 (see Gregorian calendar).}}
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1733 is before 1752, so the date 1 February for the founding of Georgia is correct. Subject to any comments I'll revert back. [[Special:Contributions/5.150.92.20|5.150.92.20]] ([[User talk:5.150.92.20|talk]]) 15:25, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


I’m confused why the title of this article has "(U.S. State)" when articles for other states don’t have this?? [[Special:Contributions/76.170.147.28|76.170.147.28]] ([[User talk:76.170.147.28|talk]]) 06:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
:Per [[WP:JG]]: "The dating method used should follow that used by reliable secondary sources (or if reliable sources disagree, that used most commonly, with an explanatory footnote)." Given that [http://georgia.gov/georgia-facts-and-symbols The State of Georgia's] website uses February 12, 1733, we can go with that for now unless you can prove the the majority of reliable secondary sources use the old style date. Thanks. - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 15:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


:[[Georgia]]'s also the name of a European country as shown on its disambiguation page (which I've linked). More info can be found at [[Talk:Georgia]]. [[User:Staraction|<span style="color: #FF9079">Star</span><span style="color: purple">action</span>]] ([[User_talk:Staraction|<span style="color: #FF9079">talk</span>]] &#124; [[Special:Contribs/Staraction|<span style="color: purple">contribs</span>]]) 06:54, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
::I would imagine that the Library of Congress would have newspapers from the period and all of them (without exception) will give 1 February. But we don't have to go that far back - see [http://www.ourgeorgiahistory.com/people/oglethorpe.html]. [[Special:Contributions/5.150.92.20|5.150.92.20]] ([[User talk:5.150.92.20|talk]]) 09:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
::That makes sense. Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/166.196.79.79|166.196.79.79]] ([[User talk:166.196.79.79|talk]]) 00:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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Yet another RM request

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Someone is again requesting that Georgia (Country) be moved to Georgia. Given that it would impact this page, I think it's worth mentioning here. See the discussion here. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 04:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:State of Georgia (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 03:50, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is U.S. really necessary?

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Yes, there’s two Georgias. However, the other Georgia is a country, not a state. A state is not a country, meaning there’s only one thing that could be logically referred to as a state. Unless there’s another country with a state system and a Georgia, then it’s an unnecessary disambiguation. If there is, I congratulate Georgia on her successful mitosis. However, in case some people say this is too ambiguous, in the interest of maximum clarity so nobody gets confused, I think the name “Georgia, the Fourth Constitutional State of the United States of America (not the country)” would suffice as an alternative. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 15:51, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term "state" also often refers to a country, i.e. state (polity) and sovereign state. Thus, "Georgia (state)" is still ambiguous. Loytra (talk) 10:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The name “Georgia, the Fourth Constitutional State of the United States of America (not the country)” would not be the right way to go. First off, the average person would say "Georgia, the state," or "Georgia, the U.S. state," if they are referring to Georgia (U.S. State). Second the "(not the country)" part is unnecessary, since it was just said that "Georgia" is in the "United States of America," debunking that, or a person may think that the U.S. is not a country. I'm not trying to insult you, but this proposed name change is unnecessary. Codename Abrix (talk) 19:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They were being hyperbolic :P Loytra (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fix link to dab page please in hatnote

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Please add (disambiguation) 43.224.39.221 (talk) 13:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We do 2603:8080:D03:89D4:895E:1EDA:C1C3:5F95 (talk) 03:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I’m confused why the title of this article has "(U.S. State)" when articles for other states don’t have this?? 76.170.147.28 (talk) 06:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia's also the name of a European country as shown on its disambiguation page (which I've linked). More info can be found at Talk:Georgia. Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:54, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. Thank you! 166.196.79.79 (talk) 00:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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