Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phiwa Nkambule

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The result was redirect to Cybatar. (non-admin closure) sst✈^(discuss) 09:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Phiwa Nkambule

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No indication of notability. All secondary sources are about Cybatar, the company this person founded, with very little about the person himself. Sources include a paragraph or two of interview quotes of him talking about the company, but little else.

When I cleaned this up in the hopes of saving it, I removing some sources that appeared unreliable; mostly user profiles or self-published content. Those sources can be seen in this version. Grayfell (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:12, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

• Redirect to company or simply delete as either are acceptable by me although deleting may be best for the article's future as I'm simply not seeing much better here. Pinging past users Ninney and Derek R Bullamore. SwisterTwister talk 05:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
• In as much as you find it not notable that article is very notable. Whoswho.co.za which has been used in a number of articles was removed which is a bit harsh on this article. The article is noteworthy mainly because of the impact it had after FeesMustFall protests. Your country was not affected by them but South Africa was and poor students are being assisted by an initiative launched by the person the article is about.

Do not delete the article but help improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phwaice (talk • contribs) 06:06, 2 November 2015‎

The about page of Who's Who SA says that profiles are open to all Southern African professionals 18 or over. The Badges and Status system used by the site clearly indicates that it is based on users' activity on the site, and does not appear to verify the underlying claims being made. It also appears to be a social networking site, which is not useful. User profiles are not WP:SECONDARY, and they are not very reliable. If that site has been used in other WP:BLPs, it should be removed. Just because other articles have problems doesn't mean this one's problems should be ignored.

The article about the company is the place to discuss the company's roll in FeesMustFall, if it can be supported by reliable, independent sources. Grayfell (talk) 09:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

• Delete. Minimal coverage from secondary sources. Claims of notability rest on press releases and social media sites. Blackguard 19:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
• Do not delete. The article is a snub and deserves an equal chance for the community to contribute to it. I didn't find social media sites on the reference list when I fixed one reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.76.132.139 (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:56, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:36, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Musa Talk  04:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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