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| text = Due to persistent disruption by an immature block-evading IP, this page has been indefinitely semi-protected. Newly registered users and IPs are not able to post on this talk page. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] • 07:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Archive Statistics == |
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|<center><big>'''Welcome to my talk page!'''</big></center> |
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I have a few requests that I hope you'll respect while posting here: |
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# Be [[WP:CIVIL|civil]]. If you don't agree with an action I made, please be calm and polite. We'll straighten things out a lot quicker without screaming and name calling. |
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# Sign your posts with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> |
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# Start new discussions at the bottom. |
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# Start new discussions with a level three heading. |
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# I generally like to keep discussions together. If you post here, I'll reply here and leave you a message informing you of my reply. If I leave you a message on your talk page, I'll keep watching it, but if you want to make sure I notice it quickly, please feel free to tag me by typing <nowiki>{{re|Amaury}}</nowiki> before your main message. |
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== Discussion Archives == |
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! 2008 |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2009|2009]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2010|2010]] |
! [[User talk:Amaury/2010|2010]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2012|2012]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2013|2013]] |
! [[User talk:Amaury/2013|2013]] |
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! 2014 |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2014|2014]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2015|2015]] |
! [[User talk:Amaury/2015|2015]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2016|2016]] |
! [[User talk:Amaury/2016|2016]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2018|2018]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2019|2019]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2020|2020]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2021|2021]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2022|2022]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2023|2023]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2024|2024]] |
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! [[User talk:Amaury/2025|2025]] |
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| January |
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| – |
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| 12 |
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| 11 |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>1</center> |
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| <center>8</center> |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''36'''</center> |
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| 8 |
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| 13 |
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| 7 |
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| 17 |
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| 5 |
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| 3 |
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| 6 |
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| 2 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''84''' |
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| February |
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| – |
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| <center>15</center> |
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| 13 |
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| <center>43</center> |
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| 35 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| 0 |
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| 0 |
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| 0 |
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| <center>9</center> |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''67'''</center> |
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| 9 |
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| 9 |
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| 8 |
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| 12 |
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| 10 |
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| 5 |
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| 2 |
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| 1 |
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| 1 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''105''' |
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| style="text-align: left;" | March |
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| March |
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| – |
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| <center>11</center> |
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| 11 |
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| <center>25</center> |
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| 24 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>1</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 1 |
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| <center>57</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>10</center> |
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| 42 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''104'''</center> |
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| 6 |
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| 13 |
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| 10 |
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| 8 |
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| 7 |
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| 4 |
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| 1 |
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| 4 |
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| 0 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''131''' |
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| style="text-align: left;" | April |
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| April |
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| – |
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| <center>20</center> |
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| 20 |
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| <center>28</center> |
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| 25 |
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| <center>1</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 1 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>52</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>8</center> |
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| 38 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''109'''</center> |
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| 6 |
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| 11 |
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| 14 |
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| 10 |
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| 14 |
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| 5 |
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| 2 |
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| 1 |
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| 1 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''148''' |
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| style="text-align: left;" | May |
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| May |
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| – |
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| <center>27</center> |
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| 23 |
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| <center>17</center> |
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| 13 |
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| <center>10</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>16</center> |
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| 10 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 12 |
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| <center>18</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>6</center> |
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| 15 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''94'''</center> |
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| 4 |
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| 18 |
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| 15 |
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| 7 |
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| 5 |
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| 1 |
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| 5 |
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| 0 |
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| 1 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''129''' |
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| style="text-align: left;" | June |
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| June |
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| – |
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| <center>15</center> |
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| 14 |
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| <center>8</center> |
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| 4 |
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| <center>1</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>50</center> |
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| 1 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 39 |
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| <center>11</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>6</center> |
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| 10 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''91'''</center> |
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| 6 |
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| 15 |
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| 14 |
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| 9 |
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| 3 |
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| 9 |
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| 4 |
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| 4 |
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| 2 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''134''' |
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| style="text-align: left;" | July |
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| July |
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| – |
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| <center>21</center> |
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| 20 |
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| <center>4</center> |
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| 3 |
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| <center>1</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>17</center> |
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| 1 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 14 |
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| <center>18</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>17</center> |
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| 18 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''78'''</center> |
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| 12 |
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| 13 |
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| 20 |
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| 16 |
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| 4 |
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| 2 |
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| 5 |
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| 2 |
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| 1 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''131''' |
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| August |
| style="text-align: left;" | August |
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| – |
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| <center>10</center> |
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| 8 |
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| <center>38</center> |
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| 34 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>4</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 3 |
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| <center>11</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center></center> |
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| 7 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''63'''</center> |
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| 12 |
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| 19 |
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| 13 |
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| 14 |
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| 4 |
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| 0 |
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| 2 |
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| 1 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''117''' |
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| September |
| style="text-align: left;" | September |
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| – |
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| <center>8</center> |
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| 8 |
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| <center>5</center> |
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| 5 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>10</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center></center> |
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| 9 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''23'''</center> |
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| 9 |
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| 6 |
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| 13 |
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| 5 |
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| 4 |
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| 7 |
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| 5 |
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| 3 |
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| 1 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''75''' |
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| October |
| style="text-align: left;" | October |
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| – |
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| <center>26</center> |
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| 24 |
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| <center>5</center> |
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| 5 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>10</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center></center> |
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| 6 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''41'''</center> |
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| 21 |
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| 16 |
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| 10 |
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| 5 |
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| 1 |
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| 6 |
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| 8 |
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| 2 |
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| 0 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''104''' |
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| November |
| style="text-align: left;" | November |
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| – |
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| <center>17</center> |
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| 11 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>5</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center></center> |
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| 4 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''22'''</center> |
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| 9 |
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| 7 |
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| 13 |
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| 9 |
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| 5 |
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| 3 |
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| 4 |
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| 5 |
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| 5 |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''75''' |
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| December |
| style="text-align: left;" | December |
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| 0 |
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| <center>11</center> |
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| 9 |
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| <center>6</center> |
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| 4 |
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| <center>0</center> |
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| 0 |
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| <center>1</center> |
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| 0 |
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| 0 |
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| <center>6</center> |
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| 0 |
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| 5 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''25'''</center> |
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| 13 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''Total'''</center> |
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| 15 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''195'''</center> |
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| 8 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''192'''</center> |
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| 10 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''13'''</center> |
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| 6 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''89'''</center> |
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| 6 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''2'''</center> |
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| 3 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''198'''</center> |
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| 6 |
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| style="background: #F0E68C;"|<center>'''64'''</center> |
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| style="background: #F0E68C; color: #FF0000;"|<center>'''753'''</center> |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''103''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''Total''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''0''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''173''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''163''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''0''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''13''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''69''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''0''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''154''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''115''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''158''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''152''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''120''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''72''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''51''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''50''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''26''' |
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| style="background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''20''' |
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| style="color: #FF0000; background-color: #FFFFE0; text-align: center;" | '''1,336''' |
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=== Girl Meets World - awards and nominations === |
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I'm seeing you're reverting the added awards by User:Riarklematthews [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Girl_Meets_World&type=revision&diff=732489946&oldid=732484168] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Girl_Meets_World&type=revision&diff=732484168&oldid=732484044]. I checked the sources given for these additions, and it clearly identifies ''Girl Meets World'' in the listing for the award/nomination, even though the recipient is for an actor or other person involved in the show, so it's OK to keep in the list. (Probably good idea to still list show in the recipient column where it's not clear, or somewhere else to clarify that it's for the person's work on the show.) Went thru some discussion on that talk page a couple weeks ago about it: [[Talk:Girl Meets World#Awards and nominations section - actor awards being moved to their individual pages, what about writers, directors, etc.?]]. [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 14:49, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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: {{Re|MPFitz1968}} I know {{U|Geraldo Perez}} agrees with you on this issue, but I feel like we're opening a real can of worms but doing things this way, and really risk "double-counting" awards to both actors and shows. IMHO, all "Actor" awards (outside of those awarded to a TV show's cast "ensemble") should only be listed at the "actor" articles, while only awards to the TV show itself and to the show's crew (along with those previously mentioned cast "ensemble" awards) should be listed at the TV series articles. If we allow "actor" awards to be included in the awards listings at the TV series pages, we're going to get serious "awards" bloat at pages like ''[[Girl Meets World]]''... --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 17:54, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::I was looking at [[List of awards and nominations received by The Big Bang Theory]] and {{slink|Jim Parsons|Awards and nominations}} as an exemplar for what is done in major awards. I think if the award text is for acting done in a named series it should go in both. If it is a general award such as most popular actor or some such not directly linked to a series it doesn't belong in the series article. If the award is for the series itself and doesn't mention a person it definitely does not belong in any actor page. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 18:06, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::: [[List of awards and nominations received by The Big Bang Theory]]? Yep – "awards bloat". {{Smiley|wink}} --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 18:21, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::: I knew there must have been a reason for choosing that example. 😇 Still reliable sources generally consider Oscar and Emmy acting and directing awards towards the film or series count when documenting how well it has done WRT awards. [[Ben-Hur (1959 film)|Ben-Hur]] even mentions it in the lead. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 18:35, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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=== Plot tags and guest stars (continued) === |
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<small>'''''This is a continued discussion from a discussion that originally started in [[User_talk:Amaury/2016#Plot_tags_and_guest_stars|July 2016]].'''''</small> |
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I just remembered this. About the writing credits, "Written by: John Smith & Jane Doe" is equivalent to "Story by: John Smith & Jane Doe / Teleplay by: John Smith & Jane Doe". And as for the parts, I don't really think it's trivia, not any more than "&" vs. "and" and story/teleplay, though it would make the director column wider than usual (as the credits are also split for that), so it may be best to just use a horizontal line. It isn't really excessive detail and avoids confusion – I would mention it since it had split credits in the original broadcast, not just syndication/re-runs (unlike the case of ''Lab Rats vs. Mighty Med'' where they changed credits for syndication, though they did have some split credits too). [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 16:13, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:On the other matter, it depends, in my opinion. If it's something like the first and last two episodes of [[Digimon Tamers]], where they premiered as hour showings (with commercials), then yes, having labels wouldn't hurt. Although in the case of Digimon Tamers, the names of the episodes were totally different, so it wouldn't necessarily be "part" labels. However, when you have some episodes, like that one from Lab Rats: Bionic Island, that when first planned were going to be two separate episodes, but they were later combined for an ''actual'' hour showing—not just two episodes put together like that Digimon example—then having "part" labels is unnecessary as the final product is a single episode. They had to combine the credits, so that's why you see "part" labels, but they are still not necessary as it is now a single episode, even sold as such. <small>Now, if an episode were planned to be an hour showing from the get-go, then that obviously changes things and there will be no labels.</small> [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 16:27, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:: {{small|(I typed this reply a few hours ago and forgot to send.)}} If the credits say "Story by: Foo & Bar / Teleplay by: Baz" and you just put "Foo, Bar, Baz" as writers, then if interpreted strictly according to the WGA guidelines that would mean "Story by: Foo and Bar and Baz / Teleplay by: Foo and Bar and Baz" (if some separator other than "&" is used then "and" is assumed), so it's not entirely unfounded to claim it's incorrect, though I don't like their tone and the way they approached the issue either. |
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:: As for the "Part" labels, since we are already listing credits "properly", I don't really think it would hurt to have a horizontal line at least, but if you don't like it, I'm not going to continue arguing over this unless someone else brings it up and thinks we should do that. [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 17:15, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Nyuszika7H}} I'm sorry if I upset you. That was not my intention. I was merely giving my opinion. Although I do agree with your last few words regarding leaving it as is unless questioned like before on K.C. Undercover. I'm going to ping {{U|Geraldo Perez}} and {{U|IJBall}} since they were involved in the discussion. And I'll invite you as well {{U|MPFitz1968}}. GP is actually the one who suggested not including the part labels in [[Talk:List_of_K.C._Undercover_episodes#Writing_credits|this discussion]] about the writing credits. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 17:35, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::: FTR, I have absolutely no opinion on this issue – outside of preferring that episode tables include episode writers, I have pretty much no thoughts on exactly how they should be "listed" within the table... --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 17:39, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::{{re|IJBall}} Thanks for providing your feedback. Even neutral feedback is appreciated. :) [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 17:42, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::: You didn't upset me, Amaury, I was talking about the WPTV editors' tone. Anyway, technically you can consider someone being confused over it being "questioned", though like I said I won't bother with it unless someone comes along again and suggests adding some indication. [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 11:17, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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=== Bizaardvark === |
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Hi Amaury. I'm confused as to how you are indicating the change I made on the Bizaardvark page is disruptive. I'm not very skilled at making Wikipedia changes, I admit, but I was not doing anything inaccurate. In fact, I was trying to correct mistaken info on the page. "Johnathan McClain" is the actor on Bizaardvark. Not "Jonathan McClain." If you look at the episode, "First!" you'll see that. Also here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0565611/ His name comes first in the guest star credits at the end of the episode, and I was also just adding the "Recurring Characters" section because he has now been in two episodes, and it looks as though he'll be in several more. (He also appears as a recurring character on the Bizaardvark Wikia page. I don't want to disturb the process, just contribute. How do you feel it's disruptive? Thanks... [[User:Nipsyrusel|Nipsyrusel]] ([[User talk:Nipsyrusel|talk]]) 16:50, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Nipsyrusel}} Then fix the typographical error without re-arranging the credit order. And no, Johnathan McClain is not listed first, so I suggest you watch the credits again. You'll see Calum Worthy is listed first by himself followed by the rest of the guest stars. As for whether Johnathan McClain's character is recurring or not, he has still only appeared in two '''aired''' episodes. We don't base recurring status on future episodes, only '''aired''' episodes. And IMDb and Wikia aren't reliable and can't be used as sources. <small>({{U|IJBall}}, you may be interested in this discussion.)</small> [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 17:00, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::Ah. I see. You're right. I just looked back and saw Calum's name on its own card. Johnathan was listed first in the pilot episode and then I saw it at the top of the other guest star list. My bad. I will correct the typo without changing the order. I can see how that was disruptive. And I also understand the thing about aired episodes. And while I won't argue about what counts as recurring, I will point out that other pages for shows with recurring characters start the counting at two episodes. (Because to recur, by definition, means to happen more than once.) So I was going to put Johnathan McClain and Jimmy Fowlie in the recurring category, as they have both now appeared more than once. But since you appear to be the main editor for this page, I will play by your rules. I also see you just changed the typo. Unless you object, I plan to link both of those actors to their own Wikipedia pages, since it appears to have been done inconsistently. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nipsyrusel|Nipsyrusel]] ([[User talk:Nipsyrusel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nipsyrusel|contribs]]) 17:13, 1 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> |
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:::{{re|Nipsyruse}} <small>(Just as an FYI, you don't need to ping me when you're on my talk page as I'll receive an alert regardless.)</small> I've already taken care of the typographical error. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 17:15, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Nipsyruse}} This discussion here [[Talk:List of Girl Meets World characters#Pappy Joe - recurring?]] may be of interest to you regarding the issue about "recurring". I flagged Pappy Joe's inclusion in the recurring list at that article because his two episodes were in "Girl Meets Texas: Part 1" and "Girl Meets Texas: Part 2", comprising essentially the same storyline in a multi-part episode. And I had to question whether two episodes was enough to classify as recurring, especially in that situation. [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 17:27, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::: Any TV show article that has anyone with appearances in just two episodes down as "recurring" is wrong, just wrong. "Recurring" should be just that: actually "recurring" over ''multiple'' episodes. While there's been no formal "cutoff" proposed at [[WP:TV]], it would be logical to assign "recurring" somewhere around appearances in 5 or half-a-dozen episodes. IOW, even "three" episodes should not be considered "recurring" in the strictest sense. --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 17:37, 1 August 2016 (UTC) |
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=== ''100 Things to Do Before High School'' === |
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So, I started watching ''[[100 Things to Do Before High School]]'' today, and in the episode "Start a Garage Band Thing!", I knew I recognized the Froman twins from somewhere. And indeed, co-starring Benjamin Royer and Matthew Royer, from ''[[Best Friends Whenever]]''... [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 23:00, 3 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Nyuszika7H}} Are you going to be adding guest stars to the article? [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 00:15, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:: Sure, I can add them, though they only list the actor names here, so it's not as simple as just copying them, though I guess most significant ones already have their character names in the "Recurring" section so can copy from there, and not that hard to get the rest. [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 09:09, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:: {{Done}} [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 11:16, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Nyuszika7H}} It is a bit tricky, but I still just go by the credits and include the actor names only, which is what I started doing a while ago over on [[List of The Thundermans episodes#Season 3 (2015–16)]] and what I did over on [[School of Rock#Episodes]]. People can then use the recurring section to figure out who's who for those who have guest starred in several episodes per IJBall's arguments. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 16:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::: I added the character names, but in parenthesis to avoid creating the illusion that the character names are listed in the credits. (It may not be immediately obvious that they are not, but using "as" could be misleading.) I think it's useful info, though if you want to make it shorter I would be fine with removing the parentheticals after the first appearance of characters since those names are not explicitly listed in the credits and won't suddenly change from episode to episode. [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 16:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::{{re|Nyuszika7H}} In parentheses is fine as, at least to me, it makes it clear the character names aren't part of the official credits. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 16:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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{{od}} {{re|Nyuszika7H}} Yeah, I don't know why that happens since you already have a break between the summary and the guest stars and any additional lines, such as absences. In my opinion, it looks more organized when editing to have the the plot template together with the summary. It might be worth inquiring about at the plot template talk page. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 18:05, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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=== ''[[Backstage (2016 TV series)]]'' === |
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Hey, Amaury! As per [[Talk:Backstage_(2016_TV_series)#Recurring_characters|this at the Talk page]], it's probably time we added "recurring characters" to the cast list at ''[[Backstage (2016 TV series)|Backstage]]''. I count at least three that might qualify – Cassandra the senior(?) head "prima" (Madison MacGregor), Principal Durani (Dewshane Williams), and Maria Schiller (Pippa Leslie). I think all three of these have been at least 3–4 episodes each, and so could probably noted as "recurring". Am I missing anyone? Thoughts? Pinging {{U|MPFitz1968}} in case he has any thoughts as well... --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 01:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC) |
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: Posting here again, in case you didn't see this – last night, weird things were happening with Talk pages (e.g. I didn't get messaged or E-mailed last night even though somebody else posted to my Talk page...). --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 21:58, 5 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::{{re|IJBall}} I did receive your message (as well as both notifications—on the site and by email) and meant to thank you and reply later, but forgot. |
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::As far as I can tell, you're not missing anyone. What makes this tricky is that there appears to be no guest star credits in the credits, or co-star credits, for that matter—not that we include them, but still. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 22:05, 5 August 2016 (UTC) |
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::: I've noticed that ''Backstage'' seems to run "guest" credits near the start of the episodes. For example, I'm nearly positive I noticed a guest credit for Pippa Leslie near the beginning of "Showtime". And I'm pretty sure I noticed the guest credit for Madison MacGregor in an earlier episode. --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 22:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC) |
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=== [[MOS:CT]] at ''[[Lab Rats: Elite Force]]'' === |
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I don't want to argue too much about this minor issue, just forgot to mention it earlier – I understand using the same capitalization for "with" and "without" at ''[[Stuck in the Middle (TV series)|Stuck in the Middle]]'', but for ''[[Lab Rats: Elite Force]]'', I'd say it would be to best to follow [[MOS:CT]] and capitalize "Coming '''T'''hrough in the Clutch". It doesn't really help consistency/aesthetics there, it's just a personal preference – no offense intended – so I don't think an exception is justified there. [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 13:30, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Nyuszika7H}} You're correct that "arguing"—I don't really like calling it arguing, at least between us (and the others) because we're good friends, and I hate it when I have conflicts with friends—over this minor issue is just silly, but there's certainly nothing wrong with either us voicing our opinions. :) (Which reminds me, did you see my reply above to that continued discussion?) |
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:I wouldn't include the story and teleplay even when/if I get around to removing the line breaks, but I suppose I can now understand the reasoning a bit—just a bit—behind using those labels. However, for titles, whether you have ''Going '''Through''' the Toy Store Is Awesome'' or ''Going '''through''' the Toy Story Is Awesome'', it's the exact same thing, the only difference being that "through" is capitalized in one and not the other. However, I can "fix" it if it really "bothers" you that much. And no offense taken. |
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:<small>PS: I also replied above in case you didn't get that alert as I had to fix the mention.</small> [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 16:27, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:: Yeah, we're friends, I just wanted to make sure you don't get it wrong. And yes, I prefer the capitalized form, but I wouldn't have brought it up if it weren't for the MOS – I think it's better to follow it unless there is a good reason to deviate (for me the ''Stuck in the Middle'' case is a good enough reason, someone may disagree in the future but let's not worry about that now) – and in this case both the sources and the MOS call for the capitalization. [[User:Nyuszika7H|nyuszika7h]] ([[User talk:Nyuszika7H|talk]]) 16:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC) |
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=== [[Peyton Meyer]] === |
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Got a problematic IP editor at [[Peyton Meyer]] today – if you could keep an eye on this one for the next 24–28 hours, that would be great. Thanks! --[[User:IJBall|IJBall]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/IJBall|contribs]] • [[User talk:IJBall|talk]])</small> 04:24, 8 August 2016 (UTC) |
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:{{re|IJBall}} You got it, buddy! [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 04:29, 8 August 2016 (UTC) |
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== Game Shakers Edit requested. --> ''[[Game Shakers]]''== |
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Hi Amaury [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]], this my first time doing this via Wiki... apologies.... if there is any error I made.... |
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As I notice you have reverted it after I have updated and corrected the Episode List. |
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Where it should have as followed: |
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* Episode 1 and 2 for Sky Whale, as I remember when I was watching this show, it start of with two part not as one, as you have show it to be as. |
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* Episode 3 Lost Jacket, Falling Pigeons |
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* Episode 4 Dirty Blob |
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* Episode 5 MeGo the Freakish Robot |
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* Episode 6 Tiny Pickles |
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* Episode 7 Scared Tripless |
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* Episode 8 Trip Steals the Jet |
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* Episode 9 Lost on the Subway |
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* Episode 10 You Bet Your Bunny |
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* Episode 11 A Reggae Potato Christmas |
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* Episode 12 Poison Pie |
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* Episode 13 Party Crashers |
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* Episode 14 The Girl Power Awards |
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* Episode 15 A Job for Jimbo |
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* Episode 16 Shark Explosion |
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* Episode 17 Nasty Goats |
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* Episode 18 Babe's Fake Disease |
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* Episode 19 The Diss Track |
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* Episode 20/21 Revenge @ Tech Fes, which again two part again... not one... like Episode 1 and 2. |
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Also did try correct the ProdCode, but it was reverted by you again.... |
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=== [[Wikipedia:Administrative action review#User:Amaury using rollback to revert constructive or good-faith edits without explanation|User:Amaury using rollback to revert constructive or good-faith edits without explanation]] at [[WP:AARV]] === |
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* Revenge @ Tech Fes ProCode should be 124-125. |
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Could you [[Wikipedia:Administrative action review#User:Amaury using rollback to revert constructive or good-faith edits without explanation| address the concerns raised here? Thanks.]] [[User:Deepfriedokra|-- Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC) |
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As the link to approve this.... if you don't take my word for it.... |
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: {{Re|Deepfriedokra}} Thank you for the message. I will start off by saying that I don't claim to be perfect, and mistakes certainly happen. |
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* http://gameshakers.wikia.com/wiki/Season_1 |
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:* Diffs 1 and 6 were already answered by other users. |
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* http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4711184/episodes?season=1&ref_=tt_eps_sn_1 |
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:* Diff 2 was a mistake that I did not catch. |
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* http://www.tv.com/shows/game-shakers/episodes/ |
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:* Diff 3 was in violation of [[WP:OVERLINKING]] a common word. This disruption has been a long-term problem in slow-motion from various IPs since at least September 2020, unless I missed something in the article history. I will going to [[WP:RFPP]] the next time it happens. It wasn't happening frequently enough that I didn't know if a request at WP:RFPP would have been approved, but it's getting old and will be going there next time. |
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:* Diff 4 introduced cast and characters that were not recurring, with the exception of Iggy and Young Alisha. Non-main cast and characters with a credit of guest star or higher need a minimum of five appearances to be considered recurring. |
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:* Diffs 5, 9, and 10 introduced category/template bloat. |
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:* Diff 7 broke code formatting, which is often [[WP:SNEAKY|sneaky vandalism]] that people do. |
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:* Diff 8 introduced unsourced content. |
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:* Diff 11 was a partial mistake, as the edit did introduce problems, so it was roughly 50% bad. This is also another area of sneaky vandalism, as people often make up or guess what characters' full names are, which is in-universe [[WP:TRIVIA]], unless there's a reliable primary or secondary source, such as the credits (primary). |
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:* Diff 12 introduced a sentence fragment, as well as intentionally breaking the formatting with that line break, despite the user claiming they were correcting grammar. |
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:* Diff 13 violates [[WP:REDNOT]]. |
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:* Diff 14 introduced unnecessary sourcing. The series' credits serve as the primary source. Once an episode airs, a source is no longer required since the episode itself serves as the source. For example, if a secondary source says John Smith as The Great Apple will appear, once that episode airs, the secondary source is no longer required, since the actor and who they portray will be listed in the primary source—the credits. |
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: Having said all that, I don't appreciate a random user who I don't know stalking my edits and trying to cause trouble by blowing a potentially small problem out of proportion, especially a user who not only has ''far'' less edits than I do, but has also been around for ''far'' less time than I have. 14 edits out of my almost 90,000 edits overall or out of my almost 1,500 edits for 2024 that are potentially a problem don't show a pattern; otherwise, this would have been raised long ago. Unless I'm going around making severe personal attacks that require immediate attention, which I am not, they need to find something better to do with their time than to follow me around just to look for me to mess up. I'm only human, I'm not a robot. This isn't your fault, of course, and I do appreciate the message once again. '''[[User:Amaury|Amaury]]''' • 03:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
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I hope this helps and willing to be able update the result to that page with correction! |
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::Hi Amaury, I don't think anyone is saying these reverts were all wrong, so no one is asking for a long justification for each of them. They are saying (and I am too) that the edits you reverted were, with 2 exceptions, good faith edits, certainly not obvious vandalism, and so they needed more than an unexplained rollback. This is not 14 edits out of 90,000 (nor 1,500), it is 12 edits out of the 57 edits you made between 12/21 and 12/30. As I said at AARV, all that is needed is a recalibration of your "obvious problem edit/bad faith edit” criterion. But that recalibration is needed, or else someone is going to remove your rollback permission. It doesn't need to be a big deal, but it does need addressing. Nobody is asking you to be perfect; all we're asking is that you take feedback onboard. Indeed, it looks to me like starting on the 31st, you did stop unexplained rollbacks. A simple "ok, my bad, some of those times I shouldn't have used rollback, and I've started explaining the reverts" would have nipped this in the bud. [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 15:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::: {{Re|Floquenbeam}} Thank you for the message. I could and should have clarified more, but the whole "my bad" is basically what I was at least trying to get across with my not being perfect and make mistakes comment. While I can admit that what was construed as [[WP:ITIS]] by another user wasn't the best of arguments, I still personally feel that the rest of the point I was trying to make is valid. AP was trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and it's pretty clear that they were following me around just looking for me to mess up just so they could have their five minutes of fame and make a report, at least in my opinion. Why so quick to go to a noticeboard to look for possible sanctions after only one message on my talk page? Then to start out with the whole "I don't like that it had to come to this, but..." just sends the wrong vibes. I don't mean for this to sound like I'm whining, because I'm not trying to, that's just what it felt like to me. |
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::: I do see the point you're making about looking at the edits between December 21 and December 31, but I feel it's also important to look at my edits as a whole. That's the point I was trying to make, in which more often than not, I do use edit summaries for reverts like the highlighted ones in this report. If only looking at the edits between those two dates, it makes it look bad for me, as if I'm always that way. One final point is that I wasn't ignoring AP, I just don't edit Wikipedia as much as I used to, as seen by my edit statistics on my user page and the long time it took to update them and my talk page archives. (The really high edit counts are when I was regularly fighting vandalism.) It's a combination of being busy in real life and just not currently having heavy interest here, so I'll normally only get on for a bit and revert any problematic edits I see. If I see I have a message, I skim it and end up forgetting about it. I can be more careful moving forward, but I also don't want to feel like I have to walk on eggshells in fear of, so to speak, AP reporting me again. '''[[User:Amaury|Amaury]]''' • 20:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 22:36, 4 January 2025
Attention editors!
Due to persistent disruption by an immature block-evading IP, this page has been indefinitely semi-protected. Newly registered users and IPs are not able to post on this talk page. Amaury • 07:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC) |
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January 2025
User:Amaury using rollback to revert constructive or good-faith edits without explanation at WP:AARV
Could you address the concerns raised here? Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Deepfriedokra: Thank you for the message. I will start off by saying that I don't claim to be perfect, and mistakes certainly happen.
- Diffs 1 and 6 were already answered by other users.
- Diff 2 was a mistake that I did not catch.
- Diff 3 was in violation of WP:OVERLINKING a common word. This disruption has been a long-term problem in slow-motion from various IPs since at least September 2020, unless I missed something in the article history. I will going to WP:RFPP the next time it happens. It wasn't happening frequently enough that I didn't know if a request at WP:RFPP would have been approved, but it's getting old and will be going there next time.
- Diff 4 introduced cast and characters that were not recurring, with the exception of Iggy and Young Alisha. Non-main cast and characters with a credit of guest star or higher need a minimum of five appearances to be considered recurring.
- Diffs 5, 9, and 10 introduced category/template bloat.
- Diff 7 broke code formatting, which is often sneaky vandalism that people do.
- Diff 8 introduced unsourced content.
- Diff 11 was a partial mistake, as the edit did introduce problems, so it was roughly 50% bad. This is also another area of sneaky vandalism, as people often make up or guess what characters' full names are, which is in-universe WP:TRIVIA, unless there's a reliable primary or secondary source, such as the credits (primary).
- Diff 12 introduced a sentence fragment, as well as intentionally breaking the formatting with that line break, despite the user claiming they were correcting grammar.
- Diff 13 violates WP:REDNOT.
- Diff 14 introduced unnecessary sourcing. The series' credits serve as the primary source. Once an episode airs, a source is no longer required since the episode itself serves as the source. For example, if a secondary source says John Smith as The Great Apple will appear, once that episode airs, the secondary source is no longer required, since the actor and who they portray will be listed in the primary source—the credits.
- Having said all that, I don't appreciate a random user who I don't know stalking my edits and trying to cause trouble by blowing a potentially small problem out of proportion, especially a user who not only has far less edits than I do, but has also been around for far less time than I have. 14 edits out of my almost 90,000 edits overall or out of my almost 1,500 edits for 2024 that are potentially a problem don't show a pattern; otherwise, this would have been raised long ago. Unless I'm going around making severe personal attacks that require immediate attention, which I am not, they need to find something better to do with their time than to follow me around just to look for me to mess up. I'm only human, I'm not a robot. This isn't your fault, of course, and I do appreciate the message once again. Amaury • 03:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Amaury, I don't think anyone is saying these reverts were all wrong, so no one is asking for a long justification for each of them. They are saying (and I am too) that the edits you reverted were, with 2 exceptions, good faith edits, certainly not obvious vandalism, and so they needed more than an unexplained rollback. This is not 14 edits out of 90,000 (nor 1,500), it is 12 edits out of the 57 edits you made between 12/21 and 12/30. As I said at AARV, all that is needed is a recalibration of your "obvious problem edit/bad faith edit” criterion. But that recalibration is needed, or else someone is going to remove your rollback permission. It doesn't need to be a big deal, but it does need addressing. Nobody is asking you to be perfect; all we're asking is that you take feedback onboard. Indeed, it looks to me like starting on the 31st, you did stop unexplained rollbacks. A simple "ok, my bad, some of those times I shouldn't have used rollback, and I've started explaining the reverts" would have nipped this in the bud. Floquenbeam (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam: Thank you for the message. I could and should have clarified more, but the whole "my bad" is basically what I was at least trying to get across with my not being perfect and make mistakes comment. While I can admit that what was construed as WP:ITIS by another user wasn't the best of arguments, I still personally feel that the rest of the point I was trying to make is valid. AP was trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and it's pretty clear that they were following me around just looking for me to mess up just so they could have their five minutes of fame and make a report, at least in my opinion. Why so quick to go to a noticeboard to look for possible sanctions after only one message on my talk page? Then to start out with the whole "I don't like that it had to come to this, but..." just sends the wrong vibes. I don't mean for this to sound like I'm whining, because I'm not trying to, that's just what it felt like to me.
- Hi Amaury, I don't think anyone is saying these reverts were all wrong, so no one is asking for a long justification for each of them. They are saying (and I am too) that the edits you reverted were, with 2 exceptions, good faith edits, certainly not obvious vandalism, and so they needed more than an unexplained rollback. This is not 14 edits out of 90,000 (nor 1,500), it is 12 edits out of the 57 edits you made between 12/21 and 12/30. As I said at AARV, all that is needed is a recalibration of your "obvious problem edit/bad faith edit” criterion. But that recalibration is needed, or else someone is going to remove your rollback permission. It doesn't need to be a big deal, but it does need addressing. Nobody is asking you to be perfect; all we're asking is that you take feedback onboard. Indeed, it looks to me like starting on the 31st, you did stop unexplained rollbacks. A simple "ok, my bad, some of those times I shouldn't have used rollback, and I've started explaining the reverts" would have nipped this in the bud. Floquenbeam (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I do see the point you're making about looking at the edits between December 21 and December 31, but I feel it's also important to look at my edits as a whole. That's the point I was trying to make, in which more often than not, I do use edit summaries for reverts like the highlighted ones in this report. If only looking at the edits between those two dates, it makes it look bad for me, as if I'm always that way. One final point is that I wasn't ignoring AP, I just don't edit Wikipedia as much as I used to, as seen by my edit statistics on my user page and the long time it took to update them and my talk page archives. (The really high edit counts are when I was regularly fighting vandalism.) It's a combination of being busy in real life and just not currently having heavy interest here, so I'll normally only get on for a bit and revert any problematic edits I see. If I see I have a message, I skim it and end up forgetting about it. I can be more careful moving forward, but I also don't want to feel like I have to walk on eggshells in fear of, so to speak, AP reporting me again. Amaury • 20:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)