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== October 2012 presentation == |
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There's more details in the Brougham presentation and in an article about it [http://news.usni.org/news-analysis/news/ohio-class-replacement-details here] if someone wants to incorporate it. The SSBN(X) designation seems to being deprecated in preference to the Ohio Replacement Submarine. [[User:FlagSteward|FlagSteward]] ([[User talk:FlagSteward|talk]]) 17:12, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Article Title == |
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The page is currently "SSBN-X future follow-on submarine," however the program is now officially titled the "Ohio-class Replacement Program." I believe one of the most up-to-date articles on the subject can be found [http://www.defensenews.com/article/20121221/DEFREG02/312210007/Submarine-Design-Effort-Gets-2B-Boost?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|World%20News|s here]. The article makes this point but the title remains unchanged. Should it not be changed? [[User:Rugads5|Rugz]] ([[User talk:Rugads5|talk]]) 17:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC) |
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== Miscellaneous Section == |
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Does the miscellaneous section really belong in this article? It seems to me to be, at best, tangentally related to the subject.[[User:HubcapD|HubcapD]] ([[User talk:HubcapD|talk]]) 23:46, 5 February 2015 (UTC) |
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== Potential ship naming == |
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The first Ohio replacement sub may be the USS ''Columbia'', which would make this the [https://news.usni.org/2016/07/28/ohio-replacement-sub-class-named-d-c ''Columbia'' class ballistic missile submarine]. The name ''Columbia'' would be in honor of the U.S. District of Columbia. [[User:Shelbystripes|Shelbystripes]] ([[User talk:Shelbystripes|talk]]) 07:15, 29 July 2016 (UTC) |
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:To prevent a premature page move, I have redirected the new potential target page and made a couple of pro forma edits so non-administrators will not be able to move the page. Once a consensus exists to move the page, a move can be requested. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 00:32, 30 July 2016 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 3 September 2016 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''Not moved'''. The consensus is to wait a few days. — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 18:47, 10 September 2016 (UTC) |
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[[:Ohio Replacement Submarine]] → {{no redirect|Columbia-class submarine}} – Now that the ship is officially named, it should be moved to the appropriate page. – <font face="Georgia">'''''[[User:Illegitimate Barrister|Illegitimate Barrister]]'''''</font> ([[User_talk:Illegitimate_Barrister|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Illegitimate Barrister|contribs]]), 04:50, 3 September 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''WAIT a few days''' The submarine has not been officially named yet. While the proposed name was sent to Congress at the end of July, statute requires the Secretary wait at least 30 days after the notification of Congress before a vessel can be officially named. I would expect that the vessel will be officially named, probably this week or next week. Until that happens, wait, but as soon as that happens, I will concur with the move proposal. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 19:32, 4 September 2016 (UTC) |
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:*It appears that Congress already expects the ship to be named ''Columbia'', and the class to be the ''Columbia'' class. An [https://news.usni.org/2016/08/25/document-report-congress-columbia-class-submarine-program August 18 report from the Congressional Research Service] describes the program as the "Navy Columbia Class (Ohio Replacement) Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN[X]) Program" in its title, and also describes it specifically as "the Columbia class program, previously known as the Ohio replacement program (ORP) or SSBN(X) program." The [[Congressional Research Service]] is a non-partisan research team operating under Congress, which prepares reports for Congress at its request. It is generally regarded as an unbiased and reliable source. [[User:Shelbystripes|Shelbystripes]] ([[User talk:Shelbystripes|talk]]) 19:53, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
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::*'''Comment''' I do hold a high respect for the CRS, but I believe their usage of Columbia-class is pragmatic and the right thing to do for the purposes of their report. Congress expects the class to be named Columbia-class because the Secretary of the Navy sent them the necessary notification. HOWEVER. The ship class is not OFFICIALLY the Columbia-class until tthe Secretary of the Navy makes the formal naming announcement, which he has not done yet. Until, it is still the Ohio Replacement Program. While it is tempting to do so, we should not jump the gun. I believe we are looking at mere days until that announcement comes and I believe we should wait for it. So I will stick to my current position of wait, with the caveat that the instant that naming announcement is made, then we can go ahead and move the page. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 20:46, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
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* '''Wait until official announcement''' - as Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball, and per Safiel's comments. - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 20:52, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
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== Conventional Trident == |
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Does anyone know if there has been any furthering of the [[Trident_(missile)#Conventional_Trident| Conventional Trident]] in general, but more specifically any consequences, permutations, versions, etc. for the Columbia/Ohio Replacement? </br> |
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[[User:LP-mn|LP-mn]] ([[User talk:LP-mn|talk]]) 06:26, 23 October 2016 (UTC) |
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== We can now go ahead with the move to [[Columbia-class submarine]] == |
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Well, it was actually more than the "few days" I said in the previous move discussion, but with this reliably sourced announcement https://news.usni.org/2016/12/13/secnav-mabus-to-officially-designate-first-orp-boat-uss-district-of-columbia-ssbn-826 I think we can safely go ahead with the move. Mabus will OFFICIALLY name the new class tomorrow. I will post the necessary tag at the target. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 00:56, 14 December 2016 (UTC) |
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*CSD G6 move tag placed at the target and I have updated the article accordingly. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 01:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC) |
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*Hull number of the USS Columbia will be SSBN-826. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 01:06, 14 December 2016 (UTC) |
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:Done. - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 01:30, 14 December 2016 (UTC) |
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== O'Rourke, Ronald. "Navy Ohio Replacement (SSBN[X]) Ballistic Missile Submarine Program: Background and Issues for Congress" R41129.pdf == |
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This pdf has 4 different [[Columbia-class_submarine#References|Reference]] entries, seemingly to the same work? [[User:DramaticExit|DramaticExit]] ([[User talk:DramaticExit|talk]]) 22:59, 2 March 2017 (UTC) |
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