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== New Certification == |
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Paparazzi was certified Gold in Germany. Source: http://www.musikindustrie.de/gold_platin_datenbank/ |
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Type "Lady GaGa Paparazzi" in to the box, and it shows up. --[[User:It's Flo|It's Flo]] ([[User talk:It's Flo|talk]]) 17:10, 23 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== Chord progression is incorrect == |
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EDIT: The chord progression is now totally bizarre. Fix please. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.131.132.156|74.131.132.156]] ([[User talk:74.131.132.156|talk]]) 03:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The chord progression currently in the article (Ab–Cm–Fm–Db–Ab–Cm–Fm–Db–Db) is both incomplete (it doesn't include the verse), and incorrect. As written, it most resembles the chord progression of the chorus, which is actually a progression of 4 chords that repeats 4x. The actual 4 chords in the chorus are: |
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Ab-Eb-Fm-Db |
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This relative progression qualifies as the "Sensitive Female Chord Progression", following vi-IV-I-V, but offset by two chords: I-V-vi-IV. See http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2008/12/31/striking_a_chord/ and |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Female_Chord_Progression. |
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Chorus lyrics with the chord changes at their proper positions: |
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<pre> |
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Ab Eb Fm Db |
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I'm your biggest fan I'll follow you until you love me, Papa-paparazzi |
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Ab Eb Fm Db |
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Baby there's no other superstar you know that i'll be your Papa-paparazzi. |
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Ab Eb Fm Db |
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Promise i'll be kind, but i won't stop until that boy is mine. |
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Ab Eb Fm Db |
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Baby you'll be famous chase you down until you love me, Papa-paparazzi |
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</pre> |
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The verse chord progression is as follows: |
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Verse1: |
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Cm - Ab - Cm |
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Cm |
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We are the crowd, we're c-coming out. Got my flash on it's true, need that picture of you |
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Ab Cm |
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It's so magical, We'd be so fantastical |
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</pre> |
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Verse2: |
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Cm - Ab - Fm |
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Cm |
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Leather and jeans, garage glamorous, Not sure what it means, but this photo of us |
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Ab Fm |
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It don't have a price, ready for those flashing lights, 'Cause you know that baby I... |
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</pre> |
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The entire bridge is in the song key of Cm, so there is technically no progression, just that one chord. |
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--[[User:Novox77|Novox77]] ([[User talk:Novox77|talk]]) 04:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC) |
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::Thanks but source used states otherwise. Wikipedia goes for [[WP:V|verifiabililty]], rather than the truth. <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|--''Legolas'']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">2</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 04:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I would have hoped that a nudge to the truth would have triggered some more research on the veracity of the original source, which is clearly incorrect. Here I present three independent sources which corroborate the truth. I'm not sure what kind of source qualifies as a verifiable source, but here they are nevertheless. |
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:::http://garyewer.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/song-analysis-lady-gagas-paparazzi/<br /> |
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:::http://songwriters123.com/blog/2009/11/popular-chord-progression-examples/<br /> |
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:::http://www.megachords.com/piano/music/133826/paparazzi.htm<br /> |
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:::I would also hope that wikipedia ultimately wants to present truth, and that the condition of that truth is that it can be verified. As you described it, it sounded like wiki's position was to accept any verifiable source, regardless of its correctness. [[User:Novox77|Novox77]] ([[User talk:Novox77|talk]]) 16:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC) |
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::::Indeed you are right my friend. As long as an extremely reliable source reports it, WP will add it even if it says that Jesus was born in Phillipines. <font color="blue">[[User:Legolas2186|--''Legolas'']]</font> [[User talk:Legolas2186|<sup>(<font color="red">talk</font><font color="green">2</font><font color="orange">me</font>)</sup>]] 04:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC) |
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In the release history section: |
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Add that it was released in Germany on September 11, 2009 [http://www.bravado.de/p6-i0602527179865/paparazzi/index.html Source 1] [http://www.amazon.de/Paparazzi-2-Track-Lady-Gaga/dp/B002LSEY6U/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1266498115&sr=8-6 Source 2] |
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Add that it was released in France on Decmeber 7, 2009 [http://musique.fnac.com/a2781646/Lady-Gaga-Paparazzi-CD-single?SID=900221b4-c8be-adcb-7347-e704dd268309&Fr=0&UID=0D3F80870-19DE-6F5A-C5E7-99304B1557DC&To=0&Nu=2&from=1&Origin=FnacAff&OrderInSession=0&Mn=-1&Ra=-28 Source 1] [http://www.amazon.fr/Paparazzi-Lady-Gaga/dp/B002VZ2MJO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1266498227&sr=1-1 Source 2] |
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[[User:TSWABH|TSWABH]] ([[User talk:TSWABH|talk]]) 13:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:It was already {{done}}. --[[User:The New Mikemoral|<span style="color: green">Mike</span>]][[User talk:The New Mikemoral|<span style="color: #21421E">moral</span>]][[Special:Contributions/The New Mikemoral|<span style="color: #01796F">♪♫</span>]] 01:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC) |
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== Repetition == |
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In the Music Video section, both the last and second to last paragraphs mention that "Telephone" picks up where "Paparazzi" left off. Different wording, but both making the exact same point. I'd suggest removing the first instance (and would have done myself, if there weren't references attached to both instances). [[User:JaffaCakeLover|JaffaCakeLover]] ([[User talk:JaffaCakeLover|talk]]) 11:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== ''The Wizard of Oz'' dress? == |
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She performed this song in a ''The Wizard of Oz'' dress? Where is the reference for this? I thought it was more a [[Thierry Mugler]]-esque [[origami]] dress. :S [[User:Yvesnimmo|Yvesnimmo]] ([[User talk:Yvesnimmo|talk]]) 23:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Chord Progression... Again == |
== Chord Progression... Again == |
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Paparazzi was lady GaGa first song on the top of Billboard Radio Songs i think it was in late 2009,but if you don't believe me,go look at official billboard radio songs chart in 2009 and see,Please change that on charts section,Thank's :) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.178.214.82|95.178.214.82]] ([[User talk:95.178.214.82|talk]]) 12:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Paparazzi was lady GaGa first song on the top of Billboard Radio Songs i think it was in late 2009,but if you don't believe me,go look at official billboard radio songs chart in 2009 and see,Please change that on charts section,Thank's :) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.178.214.82|95.178.214.82]] ([[User talk:95.178.214.82|talk]]) 12:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Please refer to [[WP:USCHARTS]]. [[User:Tbhotch|< |
:Please refer to [[WP:USCHARTS]]. [[User:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#4B0082;">Tb</span><span style="color:#6082B6;">hotch</span>]].<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<span style="color:#6B8E23;"><big>™</big></span>]]</sup> Grammatically incorrect? '''Correct it!''' [[User:Tbhotch/EN|<u>See terms and conditions.</u>]] 20:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC) |
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== MTV VMA Photo == |
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I noticed that there are pictures uploaded from Gaga's VMA performance of 'Applause'. (File:Lady Gaga Applause MTV VMA 2013 4.jpg) I am not sure if they are properly licensed and really allowed to be used, but if they are, could someone upload a photo of her VMA performance of 'Paparazzi' in 2009? That's still one of her most well-known Awards show performances. It garnered a bunch of reviews, and it would really elevate this article. --[[Special:Contributions/188.156.2.232|188.156.2.232]] ([[User talk:188.156.2.232|talk]]) 19:51, 14 February 2019 (UTC) |
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:Sricsi, they are properly licensed pictures. —[[User:IndianBio|<span style="font-size: small; font-family: Courier New; color: #6F00FF;"><b>I</b><b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b></span>]] <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b>]] ]</sup> 21:45, 14 February 2019 (UTC) |
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::That's good news, then. :) --[[User:Sricsi|Sricsi]] ([[User talk:Sricsi|talk]]) 21:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC) |
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== Single release date inconsistency - May 29 or July 6? == |
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This is taken from the start of the second paragraph on this page: |
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'The single was released on May 29, 2009, through the music video. On July 6, 2009, it was released digitally in Ireland and the United Kingdom and four days later physically in Australia.' |
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The infobox on this page shows the digital UK and Irish release date, however on the page for ''[[The Fame]]'', the music video date is listed instead. It does say that 'the single was released on May 29, 2009, through music video', so shouldn't that date be the one put on the infobox? The MTV source on the music video section about the video getting leaked even calls it Lady Gaga's 'latest single'. [[Special:Contributions/84.66.14.150|84.66.14.150]] ([[User talk:84.66.14.150|talk]]) 14:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC) |
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Chord Progression... Again
[edit]What the... Hell is this:
"Cm–A♭–C–N–C"
Since when do we have an "N-chord", or even a note? Please, someone fix this, this is absolutely ridiculous and incorrect, shouldn't take place at Wikipedia, let alone in the case of such a major song/artist/article. Thanks. My.life.is.muzik... (talk) 13:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Paparazzi No.1 on Billboard Radio Songs
[edit]Paparazzi was lady GaGa first song on the top of Billboard Radio Songs i think it was in late 2009,but if you don't believe me,go look at official billboard radio songs chart in 2009 and see,Please change that on charts section,Thank's :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.178.214.82 (talk) 12:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Please refer to WP:USCHARTS. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 20:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Video screencap up for deletion
[edit]The video screen capture from this article is up for deletion as failing WP:NFCC #8. Please see Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2014_November_19#Lady_Gaga_vidcaps for details. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:44, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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MTV VMA Photo
[edit]I noticed that there are pictures uploaded from Gaga's VMA performance of 'Applause'. (File:Lady Gaga Applause MTV VMA 2013 4.jpg) I am not sure if they are properly licensed and really allowed to be used, but if they are, could someone upload a photo of her VMA performance of 'Paparazzi' in 2009? That's still one of her most well-known Awards show performances. It garnered a bunch of reviews, and it would really elevate this article. --188.156.2.232 (talk) 19:51, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sricsi, they are properly licensed pictures. —IB [ Poke ] 21:45, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's good news, then. :) --Sricsi (talk) 21:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Single release date inconsistency - May 29 or July 6?
[edit]This is taken from the start of the second paragraph on this page:
'The single was released on May 29, 2009, through the music video. On July 6, 2009, it was released digitally in Ireland and the United Kingdom and four days later physically in Australia.'
The infobox on this page shows the digital UK and Irish release date, however on the page for The Fame, the music video date is listed instead. It does say that 'the single was released on May 29, 2009, through music video', so shouldn't that date be the one put on the infobox? The MTV source on the music video section about the video getting leaked even calls it Lady Gaga's 'latest single'. 84.66.14.150 (talk) 14:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
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