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== F4 Phantom in Egyptian Service ==
== Air Tractor ==


I recently added F4Es into the current aircraft list using a recent list I found online, however someone removed them and said they had been retired. Could someone else confirm this as I couldn't find any information about their removal from service online. I only speak and read English, unfortunately.
The aionline source [http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-02-23/abu-dhabi-idex-show-highlights-key-uae-developments] actually doesn't say that the ex-UAE aircraft are AT-802U - it says that they are "Air Tractor AT-802-based Block 1 and 2 Border Patrol Aircraft supplied by Iomax". There is an article in February's ''Air International'' (* Ayton, Mark. "Archangel: Crop Duster to Tank Buster". ''[[Air International]]'', Vol. 92, No. 2, February 2017. pp. 24–33. {{ISSN|0306-5634}}.) which states that these were modified by IOMAX from normal AT-802 aircraft "and not from AT-802U as widely reported elsewhere".[[User:Nigel Ish|Nigel Ish]] ([[User talk:Nigel Ish|talk]]) 12:08, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


== Conflicting reports on Future Aircraft Section ==
:The construction numbers of the UAE aircraft are 802U-4002 to 4025 I believe. [[User:MilborneOne|MilborneOne]] ([[User talk:MilborneOne|talk]]) 12:35, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
::Forget that the FAA for example N60033 which beacame UAE 2281 shows it as 802-4003 and type AT-802 just to confuse. [[User:MilborneOne|MilborneOne]] ([[User talk:MilborneOne|talk]]) 12:50, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
::The TCDS says they were built as AT-802 "Aircraft s/n 802-4001 and subsequent have wings and fuselage frames that are configured for planned future modifications" [[User:MilborneOne|MilborneOne]] ([[User talk:MilborneOne|talk]]) 12:54, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


There seems to be conflicting sources in the Future aircraft section, specifically on the MiG-35 and Su-35 deals. For the part that says 50 MiG-35 were ordered, it lacks the source (which is on the MiG-35 page), however there are contentions that this was in fact just the EAF's MiG-29M/M2 order as they are very similar, if not the same aircraft. I haven't been able to properly review these on my own so if someone with more direct knowledge on the EAF could look into that section that would be very helpful. We should also be careful about the people coming in here with the sole purpose of making the EAF seem much stronger than it actually is without using sources. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ironarcher13|Ironarcher13]] ([[User talk:Ironarcher13#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ironarcher13|contribs]]) 13:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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== TAI Turkish Aerospace produced 46 F16's ==
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I see a lot of editors or trolls reverting this information i want to know first why? secondly the goal of this revert?
Here is the official TAI deal link <ref>{{Cite web|last=|first=|date=|title=tai link|url=https://www.tusas.com/en/product/egypt-f-16-program|url-status=live|archive-url=|archive-date=|access-date=|website=}}</ref>


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PLEASE STOP REVERTING FOR NO REASON[[User:Cengizsogutlu|Cengizsogutlu]] ([[User talk:Cengizsogutlu|talk]]) 01:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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== F4 Phantom in Egyptian Service ==

I recently added F4Es into the current aircraft list using a recent list I found online, however someone removed them and said they had been retired. Could someone else confirm this as I couldn't find any information about their removal from service online. I only speak and read English, unfortunately.


: Hello, just wanted to give my reasoning for reverting your second addition to the TAI F-16 production. I think the current 1 sentence gives the reader a good idea of what occurred, and then the ability to continue researching it themselves, but the second addition is overly detailed for this type of section, especially as it is written like its a new occurrence, when in fact those F-16s were assembled in the 90's. If you want to give more information on how some of Egypt's F-16 fleet were actually constructed by TAI, I recommend adding a segment to the first part of the Aircraft section, as this would make a lot more sense and not clog up the inventory section. Hopefully this conflict can be ended soon. [[User:Ironarcher13|Ironarcher13]] ([[User talk:Ironarcher13|talk]]) 13:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
== External links modified ==


::Just heads up I will be moving the extensive TAI F-16 production noting up into the main article. We want to avoid cramming detailed information into table entrie(s), the reader should be able to click a Wikilink to see detailed article corresponding concise table entry. per: [[WP:WHENTABLE]] - I will note the licensed production in the F-16 section though- cheers [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 15:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,


:::Well as long as Cengizsogutlu is good with the move we should consider this issue over with. Thanks for the help Fox, happy editing. [[User:Ironarcher13|Ironarcher13]] ([[User talk:Ironarcher13|talk]]) 21:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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== Egyptian Su-35 quantity ==
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In the list of aircraft table, it said that Egypt has 5 Su-35 in service. However, the receiving of Su-35 by Egypt would be a secret between them and Russia. That's why media sources were very silent after the first 5 fighters arrived in Egypt. But then, came this website from 'Bmpd Livejournal' website, which is a Russian one. The article had a paragraph that said the aircraft the Russians had exported to different countries. This paragraph said that in 2020, the Russian defense industry exported 22 Su-35 to the Egyptian air force. So far, Bmpd livejournal didn't publish any updates on the Su-35 contract. By we know that Egypt received 22 Su-35 fighters. I edited the amount with the sources, but the edit got canceled after a couple hours. If you are having trouble finding the paragraph, just click the 3 dots and click 'Find in page'. Then write "22 Su", and right away it will tell you that 22 Su-35 fighters had been delivered to Egypt. I will edit again, and add source. Here is the source: https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4240466.html [[User:AbdoHesham123|AbdoHesham123]] ([[User talk:AbdoHesham123|talk]]) 14:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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F4 Phantom in Egyptian Service

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I recently added F4Es into the current aircraft list using a recent list I found online, however someone removed them and said they had been retired. Could someone else confirm this as I couldn't find any information about their removal from service online. I only speak and read English, unfortunately.

Conflicting reports on Future Aircraft Section

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There seems to be conflicting sources in the Future aircraft section, specifically on the MiG-35 and Su-35 deals. For the part that says 50 MiG-35 were ordered, it lacks the source (which is on the MiG-35 page), however there are contentions that this was in fact just the EAF's MiG-29M/M2 order as they are very similar, if not the same aircraft. I haven't been able to properly review these on my own so if someone with more direct knowledge on the EAF could look into that section that would be very helpful. We should also be careful about the people coming in here with the sole purpose of making the EAF seem much stronger than it actually is without using sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ironarcher13 (talkcontribs) 13:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TAI Turkish Aerospace produced 46 F16's

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I see a lot of editors or trolls reverting this information i want to know first why? secondly the goal of this revert? Here is the official TAI deal link [1]

More links https://www.arabianaerospace.aero/phantom-wing-finally-re-equipped-with-f-16s.html https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/tu-f-16.htm elektrischeinstallaties.blogspot.com https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2005-01-13-Lockheed-Martin-Sells-Its-Share-of-Turkish-Joint-Venture-to-Turkish-Aircraft-Industries-Inc-TUSAS

PLEASE STOP REVERTING FOR NO REASONCengizsogutlu (talk) 01:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, just wanted to give my reasoning for reverting your second addition to the TAI F-16 production. I think the current 1 sentence gives the reader a good idea of what occurred, and then the ability to continue researching it themselves, but the second addition is overly detailed for this type of section, especially as it is written like its a new occurrence, when in fact those F-16s were assembled in the 90's. If you want to give more information on how some of Egypt's F-16 fleet were actually constructed by TAI, I recommend adding a segment to the first part of the Aircraft section, as this would make a lot more sense and not clog up the inventory section. Hopefully this conflict can be ended soon. Ironarcher13 (talk) 13:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just heads up I will be moving the extensive TAI F-16 production noting up into the main article. We want to avoid cramming detailed information into table entrie(s), the reader should be able to click a Wikilink to see detailed article corresponding concise table entry. per: WP:WHENTABLE - I will note the licensed production in the F-16 section though- cheers FOX 52 (talk) 15:37, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well as long as Cengizsogutlu is good with the move we should consider this issue over with. Thanks for the help Fox, happy editing. Ironarcher13 (talk) 21:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Egyptian Su-35 quantity

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In the list of aircraft table, it said that Egypt has 5 Su-35 in service. However, the receiving of Su-35 by Egypt would be a secret between them and Russia. That's why media sources were very silent after the first 5 fighters arrived in Egypt. But then, came this website from 'Bmpd Livejournal' website, which is a Russian one. The article had a paragraph that said the aircraft the Russians had exported to different countries. This paragraph said that in 2020, the Russian defense industry exported 22 Su-35 to the Egyptian air force. So far, Bmpd livejournal didn't publish any updates on the Su-35 contract. By we know that Egypt received 22 Su-35 fighters. I edited the amount with the sources, but the edit got canceled after a couple hours. If you are having trouble finding the paragraph, just click the 3 dots and click 'Find in page'. Then write "22 Su", and right away it will tell you that 22 Su-35 fighters had been delivered to Egypt. I will edit again, and add source. Here is the source: https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4240466.html AbdoHesham123 (talk) 14:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]