Talk:2025

Grand Theft Auto VI

Grand Theft Auto VI will probably release in January or February 2025 (Q1 2025).

It was found on game news sources, social medias and more.

It probably may be delayed in the future Zona Gg (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

You're wrong. According to Google, it is scheduled to be released NOT on Q1 2025, but instead on Fall of 2025. O7Official (talk) 10:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Exclude: We don't include entertainment entries in main year articles. PaulRKil (talk) 13:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Why? Is that why my update talking about the Epic - rated brawler on Brawl Stars-Meeple- got removed after about 5 minutes? 2A02:6B67:E202:2D00:C935:2F55:89CE:96CD (talk) 20:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

British reginal year is empty--Needs update

I noticed that the British reginal year is listed as 'N/A.' There should be a correction or update due to this becoming the 2nd or 3rd year of King Charles the 3rd. I'm not British so I don't know if you count it from when the monarch automatically ascended or when he/she is formally coronated. Rpsenft (talk) 02:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Does it? Or can we not just remove it? As someone who is British, I don't think anyone uses this outside of incredibly niche circles these days, it really doesn't deserve any space on the main 'year' page in my opinion. It used to be used officially, but even parliament stopped using it the middle of the last century! JeffUK 08:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

  This box should have any year no matter how obscure. Also your laws still have regnal years. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Microsoft Ending Support for Windows 10

Why are people so insistent on adding this into the article?

We dont include the discontinuation of more notable operating systems such as XP. To me, it reads more like news about the routine discontinuation of an operating system which isn’t the purpose of Wikipedia.

We should Exclude it. PaulRKil (talk) 15:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Not really, windows and windows 10 are huge deals Jjbomb (talk) 20:36, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Windows XP was also a "huge deal" yet it wasn't covered in those years. We aren't a place for news and routine events (ie the discontinuation of an older operating system) so it doesn't really fit here. PaulRKil (talk) 16:12, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

We aren't a place, What? We literally have a Current Events tab, 2025 is for things that will happen in 2025, we have random sporting events, we can have windows ending support for the most used operating system ever Jjbomb (talk) 23:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

We are certainly a place but what we arent a place for is reporting the news or routine events like the discontinuation of an operating system. Microsoft has released and then ended support for numerous operating systems such as XP, Vista, and 7. We haven't listed their discontinuation, why would we do it just for this system? PaulRKil (talk) 20:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

It should be included, as it's used by literally hundreds of millions of people around the world on a daily basis. Wjfox2005 (talk) 12:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't think it's relevant to the year as whole, just because lots of people use it, doesn't mean it falling out of 'Mainstream Support' is a major milestone for the software itself, let alone the year 2025. The software wasn't launched this year, many people will continue to use it. Optional security support runs through the year to 2028 at least, with extended 'mission critical support' out to 2032. JeffUK 18:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Lots of things are happening in 2025. It would be too long of a list to list every single 2025 event. Cwater1 (talk) 21:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

So thats why my post about a brawl stars character was deleted 2A02:6B67:E202:2D00:C935:2F55:89CE:96CD (talk) 20:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

So thats why my post about a brawl stars character was deleted 2A02:6B67:E202:2D00:C935:2F55:89CE:96CD (talk) 20:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Can we please add Trump's inauguration?

I an astounded to see that there is a comment saying to exclude Trump's inauguration, as there is apparently a consensus that inaugurations aren't notable. First of all, I can't find this consensus anywhere. But I can find an opposing one.

Also, there's no doubt that the inauguration of a US president is notable enough for this article. So many things are being included that are surely less notable.

And while US inaugurations are particularly notable, I do think the Ghana one should be included too. Grey Clownfish (talk) 10:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree, I think it should be added. 2009 and 2013 has Obama; 2005 and 2001 for Bush. I won't look further back, but I'm going to assume the inaugurations of most presidents are on the corresponding year, then suddenly a controversial president is sworn in and now there's a problem. Whatever consensus was supposedly reached didn't seem to be fully applied after the fact, making me doubt it was actually reached in the first place. The notability of the event is demonstrated in media, and also a bit of common sense, when a nuclear power and world's largest economy officially changes leadership. It seems like a glaring omission. WeirdMatter (talk) 16:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you but I am curious what others think. Unlike parliamentary republics where a new PM and government take over literally the day after most elections, presidential republics have certain constitutional guidelines and dates that are important and I think we might be mistaken to not include these dates as well. The inauguration is important to include here as it represents the final and formal transfer of power from one leader to another. PaulRKil (talk) 16:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I also want to add that I believe that the note about not including Trump's inauguration was added because his supporters kept writing that he would be inaugurated even before the election was even held. PaulRKil (talk) 16:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Well, obviously before the election was held, the inauguration should have been added, but the point about it shouldn't have speculated on whether Trump or Harris would be inaugurated. It's still notable even if that's not known. The possible ban of TikTok was included before it was known that TikTok would be banned. Grey Clownfish (talk) 03:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Actually, it appears that the event that lead to the inauguration being deemed unnotable was the actual, non-premature, declaration of Trump as the winner on November 6.

This is the edit that first claimed there was a consensus not to include the inauguration. I don't think that's the consensus at all. The "consensus" was not a result of a discussion at all, it was the result of edit-warring, probably because the people who didn't want the inauguration to be added were more aggressive.

The real consensus is the 2018 one I linked to. Which is to include the inauguration. By the way, there were three people who removed the inauguration before @McSly: made the claim that there was a consensus. They were @185.112.3.98:, @Alsoriano97: and McSly themself. There were actually more people who added the inauguration. Seems to me that the consensus has always been that the inauguration should be included.

As per WP:CONSENSUS, Agree. Grey Clownfish (talk) 04:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Agree: I looked at the pages for 2009 and 2013, and both talk about Obama. 2001 and 2005 mention Bush as well. 2017 even mentions Trump's first inauguration a bit, although its mostly because of the protests that occured. Cavdan2024 (talk) 20:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Agree: I have a question, why is the inaguration of a american president not automatically added to 2025? We have random sporting events, but not the inaguration of a president? Jjbomb (talk) 23:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:CONSENSUS, inaugurations are not notable events Rc2barrington (talk) 03:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

wikipedia man Jjbomb (talk) 06:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Agree because, as stated, I cannot find this "consensus". Also, if inaugurations are not "notable events", then I don't understand how it has its own article, as that means it is notable. I think Trump's inauguration should be added, seeing as there seems to be consensus here. Ulysses Grant Official (talk) 04:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Sure. I was just listing what was on the source edit, it says per a consensus, but I can't find this consensus. Because of this overwhelming consensus, I think it would be difficult for any opposition. Agree. Rc2barrington (talk) 04:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I think for the time being, since there's uncertainty with a new House speaker being appointed for the 119th Congress to be seated, however slim, *before* January 20th, which would serve to delay the inauguration until that happens, potentially sparking a Constitutional crisis, since Joe Biden has to leave the White House at noon on January 20th, and would do so with no clear successor, it should be listed as an uncertain or potentially unknown date. There's also the slim, but not 0, chance that an objection to certifying the results in Congress may arise, and lead to legal action if the objection were to be raised and rejected on the topic of Trump inciting an insurrection as 45th President of the United States, which according to Amendment 14, Section 3, automatically disqualified him from holding federally elected office ever again. It certainly will be interesting to say the least, to see what happens. 68.49.126.217 (talk) 08:43, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Maybe, but I dont they're going to do that Jjbomb (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree that all inaugurations of heads of state are easily important enough to include. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oposse inclusions is a totally unnecessary debate because there has already been a clear consensus on this. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a news portal, and what is truly encyclopedic is the result of the presidential or parliamentary elections, not the inauguration of a president or prime minister, since even if it has all the “pomp and circumstance” you want, it is a mere symbolic act of the end and beginning of a mandate. No inauguration should be included, neither that of the president of the USA, nor that of the president of Ethiopia, nor any other. There are almost two hundred countries in the world and it is an unmanageable and incoherent proposal with the encyclopedic purpose of wikipedia. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  You cannot compare the inauguration of a american president to the inauguration of any other 200 Jjbomb (talk) 12:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  for practical purposes it is the same thing. Year in topic is not 2025 in the United States. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  How is the transfer of power merely symbolic?

  Also, we include so many things specific to a particular country in here, like the TikTok ban in the US.

  And it cannot be denied that the US is one of the most powerful countries, hence its inaugurations are more significant than those of most other countries.

  Honestly, if a country changing its leadership isn't significant enough, I don't know what is. Grey Clownfish (talk) 14:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Grey Clownfish governments change due to elections. Inaugurations are the culmination of a transition process, not what causes it. And perhaps the banning of Tiktok in the USA should not be included here. That the USA is a major power does not imply that everything related about this country should be included, that is a bias that Wikipedia rules prohibit. We cannot, or should not, include election results and the inauguration of the winner/winner of the parliamentary majority. Politics would be monopolizing the Year in Topic and I doubt that is the real purpose of these articles and of Wikipedia, which I remind once again is an encylcopedia. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:15, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2025

hi I would I suggest editing "Happy new year! 2025" on the heading of the page page wishing users for this new year 103.165.115.223 (talk) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

 Not done per WP:TONE. It's also 2 January by now in some countries. --Belbury (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Massacre in Cetinje (Montenegro)

Seven people are killed and four injured in a shooting in Cetinje (2025 Cetinje shootings), Montenegro that happened in the afternoon of January 1st. Three days of mourning announced nationwide. Please add. Sources: https://en.vijesti.me/news-b/black-chronicle/739310/vise-osoba-ubijeno-u-pucnjavi-na-cetinju-policija-traga-za-osumnjicenim ; https://en.vijesti.me/news-b/black-chronicle/739328/spajic%2C-I-think-martinovic-is-already-located 79.140.150.151 (talk) 20:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Added but changed number of people killed because different number reported by the Guardian Mariwlqs (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. The numbers need to be updated though unfortunately, the final tally is 13 killed (including the perpetrator) 79.140.150.151 (talk) 06:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Nevada Cybertruck explosion

This keeps being added and removed by different editors, so I'd like a consensus to point to. Is the Cybertruck explosion in Paradise, Nevada important enough to include in a worldwide summary of 2025? I think that it is not, and should be kept to the article on 2025 in the United States, since only one person died and there are no extraordinary circumstances that would make it important enough for a global summary of the year. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I support removal of this, because it is too much US-centric. Outside USA it wasn't top news of the day. New Orlean terrorist attack, or shooting in Cetinje were way more important than this. Szturnek_¿? 22:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Exclude. Minimal casualties; lacks due weight for 2025 year page. Wjfox2005 (talk) 10:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Who removed this page’s template?

Somebody bring it back! Superyassi362 (talk) 20:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Election Fraud

"In Venezuela, following the electoral fraud in July 2024, either Edmundo González", it just says "following the electoral fraud", has it been 100% proven to be fraud? Can't we just call it the 2024 Venezuelan Presidential Election? Jjbomb (talk) 17:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I already took out the wording. It definitely needed to be more neutral in tone. I mentioned the overall political crisis related to the elections. PaulRKil (talk) 21:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)