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** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Edward Dodding]]''' saw the death of three [[Inuit]] native Americans as a missed opportunity to display them to [[Queen Elizabeth I of England|Queen Elizabeth I]]. <small>https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5ZvFAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA52&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false</small> |
** '''ALT1''':... that '''[[Edward Dodding]]''' saw the death of three [[Inuit]] native Americans as a missed opportunity to display them to [[Queen Elizabeth I of England|Queen Elizabeth I]]. <small>https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5ZvFAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA52&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false</small> |
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<small>Created by [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) and [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) at 13:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC).</small> |
<small>Created by [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) and [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]). Nominated by [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) at 13:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC).</small> |
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:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] All the basics are here, new, length, cites and image license. However, I have concerns about [[WP:EVENT]] - isn't this article really about the Inuit? Dodding seems to be entirely unnotable otherwise. [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) |
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:::I take your point. It could and should be expanded with material about the rest of his career. The sources do talk very much about how Dodding approached the Inuit, his attitudes and assumptions so they are very much about him, albeit principally in respect of this one episode as you say. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 19:01, 30 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::::{{Ping|Maury Markowitz}} I don't think we will be able to expand the biographical content of the article further without visiting specialist libraries to extract the information which I can't do right now. Do you approve the article in its current form Maury? [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 10:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::Well I'd like to get someone else to weigh in, I don't feel qualified to make a call at this point. [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 12:26, 8 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::: Had a chance to speak to a history professor. The fact that he’s in [[Munk's Roll]] ought to be enough. He is important to historical anthropology. Does that help? [[User:Whispyhistory|Whispyhistory]] ([[User talk:Whispyhistory|talk]]) 09:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::: [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] I'm inclined to believe that Dodding is notable, just that there is little published about him (which is not terribly surprising, considering that he died in the sixteenth century). Munk's Roll makes no mention of the postmortem, bolstering the idea that he was notable beyond one event. Since this is the only issue holding back the nomination, I'm giving it a tick. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 00:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks, I see I still need to do a QPQ which I will do very shortly. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 00:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::*[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Superseding tick since QPQ is still not done. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 01:19, 19 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::QPQ done. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 13:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Restoring tick. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 20:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC) |
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:59, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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Edward Dodding
[edit]- ... that Elizabethan physician Edward Dodding conducted a post-mortem examination of Kalicho, an Inuit man injured by a Cornish sailor? https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8-4s2aXr8oQC&pg=PA1&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ALT1:... that Edward Dodding saw the death of three Inuit native Americans as a missed opportunity to display them to Queen Elizabeth I. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5ZvFAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA52&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 13:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC).
- All the basics are here, new, length, cites and image license. However, I have concerns about WP:EVENT - isn't this article really about the Inuit? Dodding seems to be entirely unnotable otherwise. Maury Markowitz (talk)
- I take your point. It could and should be expanded with material about the rest of his career. The sources do talk very much about how Dodding approached the Inuit, his attitudes and assumptions so they are very much about him, albeit principally in respect of this one episode as you say. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:01, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Maury Markowitz: I don't think we will be able to expand the biographical content of the article further without visiting specialist libraries to extract the information which I can't do right now. Do you approve the article in its current form Maury? Philafrenzy (talk) 10:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
- I take your point. It could and should be expanded with material about the rest of his career. The sources do talk very much about how Dodding approached the Inuit, his attitudes and assumptions so they are very much about him, albeit principally in respect of this one episode as you say. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:01, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Well I'd like to get someone else to weigh in, I don't feel qualified to make a call at this point. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
- Had a chance to speak to a history professor. The fact that he’s in Munk's Roll ought to be enough. He is important to historical anthropology. Does that help? Whispyhistory (talk) 09:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to believe that Dodding is notable, just that there is little published about him (which is not terribly surprising, considering that he died in the sixteenth century). Munk's Roll makes no mention of the postmortem, bolstering the idea that he was notable beyond one event. Since this is the only issue holding back the nomination, I'm giving it a tick. --Usernameunique (talk) 00:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, I see I still need to do a QPQ which I will do very shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Superseding tick since QPQ is still not done. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:19, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
- Had a chance to speak to a history professor. The fact that he’s in Munk's Roll ought to be enough. He is important to historical anthropology. Does that help? Whispyhistory (talk) 09:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- QPQ done. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
- Restoring tick. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)