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== Linter tool out on small wikis == |
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Quick note: [[:mw:Extension:Linter]] (which helps editors find wikitext errors) is available on some small wikis. Have a look at [[:mw:Special:LintErrors]] to see what it does. (I don't know what all of the categories are, but I see that lots of translations of [[:mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide]] appear in a couple of the lists.) [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 20:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:I believe that this will be going out to medium-size wikis in the next week. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC) |
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::[[Special:LintErrors]] has reached the bigger wikis. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 03:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Where are the pages that tell how to fix them? Can those pages be linked from these faux category pages? When I go to [[:Special:LintErrors/pwrap-bug-workaround]], for example, the description of the problem is ... lacking, and there is no explanation of how to fix whatever the problem is. Thanks. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 06:18, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Hi there, [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]]. Yes, there are pages that aim to collect instructions. We would like to see how effective/understandable they are before linking them everywhere. Would you please review the 3 linked at [[:mw:Help:Extension:Linter#High-priority_lint_issues]] to see if they make sense or how they might be improved? These are the ones we'll soon ask the community to focus on. Once they are ready, I would like to transclude them in [[:mw:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Action_item|Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Action_item]]. Thank you! [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 09:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::Those look like a good start. I looked at the three high-priority pages and expanded the self-closed tag page to make it more helpful. |
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:::::Questions about how these new pages work: Have you considered applying some kind of sorting to the Special pages? How do I add the list to my watchlist to see when something new appears on one of them? When I am trying to fix a page, how do I use Preview to find out if my edit will fix the problem? I am used to tracking categories, which have straightforward answers to all of those questions. Also, why does [[Dexter (season 7)]] show up in the Special page for self-closed tags but not in the self-closed tag category? Thanks. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 13:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::: Will respond two two of your questions which I can answer right away. (1) Reg using Preview, you need [[mw:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Action_item|the ParserMigration tool enabled in your preferences]]. One thing we could do is perhaps to add an edit link with the parser-migration preview. But, till such time, you can replace action=edit with action=parsermigration-edit. (2) As for [[Dexter (season 7)]], there is broken markup in that section that trips up Parsoid causing it to flag the page for a self-closed tag linter output. See [[Dexter (season 7)#External_links]] for the broken output. That particular transclusion that linter identifies generates '''<nowiki>''Dexter''<span class="nowrap" style="padding-left:0<wbr/>.1em;">&<wbr/>#39;<<wbr/>/span>s</nowiki>''' and Parsoid gets confused by that jumble and thinks that there is a span self-closing tag. This is an edge case. [[User:SSastry (WMF)|SSastry (WMF)]] ([[User talk:SSastry (WMF)|talk]]) 14:23, 29 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thanks for the changes, [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]]. Let me tell you what I'm thinking: there will be several pages to fix in the next months. I don't know that people with a certain expertise like you can get all of that done. My goal is involving less tech-minded people like me as well - I do not need or care much about the details: I just want to know what I have to do to help. "Change X with Z", "Delete Y", is an example of straightforward instructions I can follow. Right now, such instructions look a bit buried in a sea of details. I would like them to be way more evident - and standardised. Currently, it is obvious that the 2 explanation pages can't be transcluded in the FAQ section - it'd be a mess. Maybe the FAQ page only needs a TL;DR for each of those. Appreciate your thoughts and suggestions. [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 14:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC) |
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::::::::I ''love'' simple "if this, then do that" instructions when they are possible. I found that when working on the self-closed tag category, simple instructions applied most of the time, but there were enough tricky ones that simple instructions were not possible. For example, sometimes {{tag|div|s}} should be changed to {{tag|div|o}}{{tag|div|c}}, and other times it is a typo for {{tag|div|c}}. Another tricky case is {{tag|b|s}}, which should be replaced with {{tag|nowiki|s}}, {{tag|br|s}}, or {{tag|b|c}}, depending on the context. |
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::::::::My experience with categories like this on en.WP is that you end up with a group of four or five gnomes who fix all of the errors. Those gnomes learn the tricky bits through experience. If you're lucky, some of the fixes have no edge cases and can be fixed by a bot, leaving the rest for the gnomes to fix in context. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::::::OK, but then, this kind of explanation needs to be offered, and if a person figures they aren't able to determine what the correct case is, then they move on to the next (hopefully easier) category? (My experience matches yours. We've also had amazing people who single-handedly went out to fix on other wikis; but it is not enough, and it doesn't scale. Hence why I'm encouraging the team to try and make things easier for a wider audience.) [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 08:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]], that amazing person that Subbu is added simplified instructions at [[:mw:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#What_will_editors_need_to_do.3F]]. Let us know what you think of those. I think we're aiming at a first round of communications this week. TYVM! [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 09:23, 3 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:I looked through them once, and I assume that some people will understand them. I didn't understand the reference to "Please see the detailed help page for this category." I thought that pages were being listed on a Special page, not on a category page, and there is no link to any detailed help page. I guess I am just still confused about some of the questions I listed above. Don't stop your deployment on my account. I am available to help, and I am sure that you will find others who are as well. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 02:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::I believe that "the detailed help page for this category" is [[:mw:Help:Extension:Linter/self-closed-tag]], and "this category" refers to a group or type of errors, rather than a page in the Category: namespace. [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre]], if that sounds right to you, then perhaps we could change the wording to avoid confusion with the namespace? [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Absolutely, I don't own that page, go ahead with any changes that make sense - but also let [[User:SSastry (WMF)|SSastry (WMF)]] what outstanding doubts are there! [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 17:56, 13 July 2017 (UTC) |
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For information, I've recently modified WPCleaner to integrate it with Linter. Currently, the following is available: |
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* Access to list of pages detected for a given Linter category is provided from the main window (Linter categories button) |
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* Access to the analysis by Linter of the page currently being edited, including the unsaved modifications (Linter button in the toolbar in the Full Analysis window and Check Wiki window) |
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Still some work to do for it to be easier for users. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 09:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[User:NicoV|NicoV]], I want you to know that if you think this tool may help, you are welcome to add related info in the simplified instructions section. [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 09:12, 17 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::Thanks [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]], I will try to do it when I've done some improvements on WPCleaner. I'm currently adding code for dealing with the [[Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag|missing-end-tag]] reported by Linter: my development version currently detects problems with {{tag|center|o}} tags, and suggests a fix when it's inside a gallery tag or an image description ; I have to make it automatic for some situations, add suggestions in other situations, and do the same for other tags. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 09:17, 17 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Good! I guess you have an idea of how many communities are actually using it? Do you have a way to communicate with them all at once? [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 09:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::::[[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] Apart from the [[Wikipedia:WPCleaner/Wikis|list of wikis for which WPC is configured]], I don't know which one has active users or not. No channel to communicate with them {{smiley|sad}} --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 14:33, 17 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::::{{Ping|NicoV}} You can use the "information box" at the bottom of WPCleaner to communicate to a large audience that uses your tool. Add some "eye-cathing color" to the text, and people will read it when logging in to the tool. <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">([[User talk:Josve05a|'''t''']]) [[User:Josve05a|<span style="color:white;">'''Josve05a'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|'''c''']])</span> 14:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::Interesting, Josve05a. We have made [[:mw:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Volunteers_available_to_support_this_effort|a tentative space for a taskforce]], but haven't promoted that much... [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 14:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::::::Ok [[User:Josve05a|Josve05a]]. A suggestion for the message and what links should be in it? --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 06:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::::[[:m:Tech/News/2017/28]] has a short announcement about Tidy, for example. Calling attention to the taskforce I linked above would also be cool :) [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 06:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::::::::[[User:Josve05a|Josve05a]], [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]]. I have just released a version of WPCleaner with a message advertising the Linter extension. Suggestions are welcome. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 17:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC) |
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::[[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] I've started adding a Tools section for [[:mw:Help:Extension:Linter/self-closed-tag|self-closed-tag]] with a small description of what WPCleaner can do to help fixing this error. Everyone: Feel free to fix my English, improve the section... --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 05:56, 19 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Could someone have a look at [[User:PerfektesChaos/js/lintHint]]? Perhaps it should be on the list of helpful tools. (See also [[mw:Topic:Tvyz5k6ki39kba6t]], which lists another.) [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:20, 30 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== This project may close soon == |
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This page has stopped being updated. It may shut down soon. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 22:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:What are you talking about? <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 23:03, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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::Monthly dumps did not update for two months and there is no plan for them to be updated in the future. E.g. [[Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/001 dump]]. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 23:47, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Seems like contacting {{User|Bgwhite}}, or whoever else runs the dump, would be the first step, rather than panicking. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 23:56, 26 March 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Bgwhite [https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?src=rc&user=Bgwhite hasn't edited any wiki] for over a month. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:What are you talking about? I have new run on new dump 4 days ago. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 14:45, 27 March 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] which files do you use? -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 23:57, 28 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:Sorry, {{U|Magioladitis}}, I do not understand the question. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 00:04, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] You wrote that you run a new dump. Where did you post it? -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 00:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:I see the problem. I did not run anything. I opened the checkwiki interface, and found a new run, with a lot of errors that wasn't there a week before. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 00:35, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] You still have a few lists that are generated by WPC: [[Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC all]]. They are based on the dump from 20 March. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 08:42, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] I have the same question (''"What are you talking about?"''). [http://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=ruwiki&view=high Ruwiki's web interface] got new dump yesterday, and it's basic checkwiki feature, isn't it? There are 4 maintainers for checkwiki tool at [http://tools.wmflabs.org/?list WMFlabs tool list], you're in the list, so, even if Bgwhite left the project (I hope he's not), tool isn't dead. Who is going to close project and why? [[User:Facenapalm|Facenapalm]] ([[User talk:Facenapalm|talk]]) 10:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Facenapalm|Facenapalm]] I can't download and process the dump files (my laptop is rather old and my connection is not in a better shape) and in fact it's also not in my plans neither. You can ofcourse ask the other two persons if they want to keep working with it. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 10:49, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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* Download dump files for what? I thought dumps are scanned directly on WMFlabs, aren't they? If not, who scanned last ruwiki dump yesterday? Even if current maintainers have no plans about project, they can add a new maintainer(s), right? I can't believe that noone can and want to maintain the project. I probably can help with ruwiki dumps, if you'll explain what's needed. [[User:Facenapalm|Facenapalm]] ([[User talk:Facenapalm|talk]]) 14:16, 29 March 2017 (UTC) |
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As far as I understand, for ''international team'' there is no panic. Marios is talking about on-wiki pages, which are generated with WPC, which uses slightly different algorithms for error detecting. Web interface (the "real" CW) isn't going anywhere. --'''[[User:Edgars2007|<span style="color:#FF6600;">Edgars2007</span>]]''' <small>([[User talk:Edgars2007|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Edgars2007|contribs]])</small> 06:47, 31 March 2017 (UTC) |
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I am talking about the on-wiki pages generated every month based on the same algorithm with the daily scans. The lists are generated with 3 ways: |
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# Monthly(?) scans by WPC which are done with a slightly different algorithm. |
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Item 2 will discontinue. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 12:01, 31 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:I get a new run twice a month. If it will be once a month from now, I can leave with it. The problem is all changes in the code, including those that Bgwhite already started to write. I have about 5 like these. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 12:41, 31 March 2017 (UTC) |
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FrescoBot also stopped since March. It's the fourth of fifth bot that was used in the project and stopped. Meanwhile, BAG still has not completed the process of reaffirming Yobot for the 100+ tasks it used to run. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 17:27, 9 May 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] After some months passed, you now see it was not just a panic. It was info I had about it. In practise the project is stalled. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 06:15, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
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:I don't really see what you mean by "The project has stalled", I routinely perform CHECKWIKI cleanup tasks, and listings are certainly updated e.g. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=enwiki&view=only&id=3]. And if for some reason the project did stall, what do you want me to do about it? I have no idea how these listings are generated. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 12:11, 23 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Maybe it's time to send this project for deletion? Certain people in the community worked systemtically against certain parts of this project (people, bots, tasks). There was even an Arbitration case that concluded recently. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 15:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Magioladitis}} Now why in the world would we want to do that? The project obviously has support from the community. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 15:08, 14 October 2017 (UTC) |
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[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] |
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* Menobot: Last CHECKWIKI edit was more than 1 year ago |
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* Xqbot: Last CHECKWIKI edit was more than 1 yyear ago |
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* Yobot: It's doing much fewer tasks than 1 year ago |
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* BG19bot: Stopped editing in February |
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* Josvebot: Last edit was in August |
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Am I in panic? I don't know. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 15:10, 14 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:You are in panic, yes. Some people may have lost interest in it, but it doesn't mean the project is bad, or is undesired by the community. Certainly feel free to contact the bot ops to resume their bots, or pick up some of the slack with Yobot. If you do, my advice is to focus on high/mid-priority tasks. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 15:14, 14 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Hi. frwiki has not been updated since 2017-09-16 and I'm afflicted. Is the Check Wikipedia project definitively cancelled or replaced? Except for enwiki, it still seems to run from time to time in other languages... Thank you. |
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[[User:Clumsy and stupid|Clumsy and stupid]] ([[User talk:Clumsy and stupid|talk]]) 07:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== BIG Blue Button == |
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It appears that the next stage of the OOUI-ification of MediaWiki is going to change something about how the "Save" (aka "Publish") button is implemented in the API. There is a possibility that a small number of scripts or bots will break as a result. See [[phab:T162849]] and [[mw:OOjs UI]] for more information. |
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If you think that this will be a problem for your work, then you might want to ask for help at [[WP:BOTN]] or [[WP:VPT]]. |
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This has been planned for years, announced in Tech News, etc., which probably means that nobody has paid attention to it. :-) I therefore ask for your help in sharing this information with technically minded editors at other projects. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:26, 9 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:Quick update: |
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:* There's actual information, including some examples of scripts that have already been fixed at [[:mw:Contributors/Projects/Accessible editing buttons]]. |
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:* This has already happened at fawiki and plwiki, so you can go there to test your scripts, or follow the directions on mw.org to test it on any (WMF) wiki. |
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:* [[User:NicoV]], this may reach the French Wikipedia (and a few others, but not dewiki or enwiki) next Wednesday, which is 28 June 2017. I'll leave a note at Le Bistro (in English, alas) once the schedule's settled, but I thought I'd give you an early warning. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 20:03, 19 June 2017 (UTC) |
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::This next group has been postponed until Wednesday, 5 July 2017, because Matma Rex found some bugs in the Monobook skin, and because having a little extra time to check their scripts won't hurt anyone. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 15:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Update: This is done, everywhere. Commons was the last wiki, about 9 days ago. During the next month, if you see new breakage in scripts, it's more likely to be Krinkle's jQuery 3 update than this OOjs UI change. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 17:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC) |
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==Tidy replacement== |
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Previously, on Tidy Replacement... The Parsing team wants to replace Tidy with a RemexHTML-based solution on the Wikimedia cluster by June 2018. This will require editors to fix pages and templates to address wikitext patterns that behave differently with RemexHTML. Please see the "'''[[:mw:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#What_will_editors_need_to_do.3F|What editors will need to do]]'''" section on the Tidy replacement FAQ. This is ongoing, although operations seem to go slowly at this wiki? |
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I now want to point your attention to the related update that Subbu provided [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2017-August/088593.html on wikitech-l]. Please do ping him ([[User:SSastry (WMF)]]) if you have any questions or concerns, ideas about how to get more people involved here or communications venues we haven't explored yet (I will contact technical village pumps later this month, FWIW), etc. Hope this helps! [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 14:59, 13 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:Hey, I've started [[:mw:Help:Extension:Linter#Tools]] as a place to collect scripts/tools/anything that's helpful. Please boldly add yours. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 22:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC) |
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== Add zh-classical.wikipedia == |
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Hi. May you also check [[:zh-classical:|zh-classical.wikipedia]]? Thank you! --[[User:Kanashimi|Kanashimi]] ([[User talk:Kanashimi|talk]]) 03:30, 10 September 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{reply to|Kanashimi}} What exactly do you want checking? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 10:57, 10 September 2017 (UTC) |
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:: Please check all issues, we will pick up what we need. Thank you. --[[User:Kanashimi|Kanashimi]] ([[User talk:Kanashimi|talk]]) 11:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC) |
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== enwiki last update is 2017-08-31 == |
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According to [https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi Check Wikipedia] enwiki has not been updated since 2017-08-31. Used to be daily updates with new items. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 20:20, 15 September 2017 (UTC) |
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== #73 Mistaken on ISBNs from Cyprus == |
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ISBN 978-9925-0-4481-8 on [[de:Willem de Haan]] and ISBN 978-9925-0-7752-6 on [[de:Gustav Heinrich Gottfried Siebeck]] from Cyprus are reported as wrong, although they are mathematically and logically correct. -- [[User:Omerzu|ThomasO.]] 17:33, 24 September 2017 (UTC) |
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== The server is out == |
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Hi. I can't open the server for about ten minutes. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 14:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]], is it working now? I haven't heard of any big problems today. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 18:48, 26 September 2017 (UTC) |
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::Hi, [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]], it's OK now, thank you. I just informed you there was a problem for ten minutes. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 18:49, 26 September 2017 (UTC) |
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==ISSN error== |
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I checked the check digital myself of the issn 1010-4143, which is correct (unless my calculation wrong and library wrong), but it shown error in the page. Is that the wikipedia coding on checking issn had error instead? or UFT8 character table or 8 bit character table error? [[User:Matthew_hk|<span style="color:yellow; background-color:black;">Matthew_hk</span>]] [[User talk:Matthew_hk|''<font color="Blue">t</font>'']][[Special:Contributions/Matthew_hk|''<font color="red">c</font>'']] 20:36, 6 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:What is the affected page? – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 00:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== TemplateData update == |
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{{tracked|T135667}} |
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If you're interested in how templates get placed on a page, then please see [[:mw:Help:TemplateData#Custom formats]]. It's now possible to tell Parsoid that {{tl|unref}} and similar tags belong on separate lines. This change should make it easier to maintain wikitext whitespace conventions. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 18:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== Last update on ENWiki - August 31, 2017 == |
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Hello, I am a dedicated member of this project and I commit my time to clearing the problems of the English Wikipedia. I noticed the last update was August 31, 2017. |
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Is there any reason for that? Are you trying to reduce the backlog first before updating. I am bringing this to your attention because it used to be daily. |
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[[User:AmericanAir88|AmericanAir88]] ([[User talk:AmericanAir88|talk]]) 22:17, 23 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:As i can see, the wikis with dump cycle - an update twice a month - work as usual. I can see the hewiki updates all the time. The wikis with special schedule - as enwiki every day, and so on, are not work, because they done by different script. Maybe, until this script will be fixed, the dump one should check all the wikis - twice a month is better than nothing. [[User:IKhitron|IKhitron]] ([[User talk:IKhitron|talk]]) 12:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC) |
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== Future of the project? == |
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Hi everyone ([[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]], [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]], all others) |
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I was really sad when I understood a few months ago that Bgwhite had left the project (and wiki altogether). His work made the project increase a lot since he took over after SK. Now that Bgwhite also left the project, I'd like to understand what can be done to continue with this project. I understand that enwiki has some strong opponents against it (I don't understand why, keeping a good maintenance level is good for wiki in the long term...), but many other wikis seem to be ok with the project. My experience with frwiki is that I can do a lot of things over there, I just have to explain from times to times what I'm doing and why, but there are no ayatollas against the project. |
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It seems that some lists have not been updated in the last weeks (or months ?), so there's probably some maintenance to do on Labs for checkwiki. Is anyone interested in taking over this part of the project (at least making sure that the scripts keep running on a regular basis on Labs) ? How can we get access to checkwiki account on Labs ? Myself, I already have little time available to work on WPC, so working also on checkwiki would be too much... |
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If we don't manage to keep the checkwiki scripts running, there's still the possibility to use WPC to generate some of the lists (I do it on [[:fr:Projet:Correction_syntaxique/Analyse|frwiki]]), but it's only based on the dumps which are normally produced twice a month. |
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--[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 16:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] I think we have to move the entire project on Meta and say goodbye to English Wikipedia, at least for now. There was an effort to encourage people to determine which tasks they find useful but I am not sure about the current status anymore. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 18:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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::I'm not sure where you get the idea that [[WP:CHECKWIKI]] has strong opponents. Most people have been pretty supportive of it, "opponents" included. Moving the project to 'meta' won't change anything about anything. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 18:45, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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::[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] The task is global. We moved the main information from German Wikipedia to Engish Wikipedia but I think it will reduce drama on English Wikipedia if we have a list of all possible errors that can be fixed on Meta. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 18:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Centralizing the project elsewhere certainly is doable (and may even be desirable for a variety of reasons), but it won't change anything about the level of support, or the drama (or lack thereof) the project has. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 19:01, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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::[[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] I don't think that hosting the discussions on Meta or English wikipedia changes anything: it's just the discussions, not the tools. I'm more worried about maintaining the tools on Labs: currently, the scripts are not working normally, only a few errors are reported... --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 15:35, 31 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Both the enwiki (started: 31 August 2017, job id: 8992714) and frwiki (started: 12 September 2017, job id: 9458602) jobs have hung on the Toolforge grid. Since they are configured to have only one instance running at a time, new instances of these jobs will not run until these are killed. The statuses can be checked using <code>qstat -j 8992714,9458602</code> on a Toolforge command line. I am not a member of the checkwiki Toolforge project, so I can't kill them. The two log files are at /data/project/checkwiki/var/log/frwiki-delay.o9458602 and /data/project/checkwiki/var/log/enwiki-delay.o8992714 --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 19:09, 31 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Some ideas: |
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* Couldn't some WMF department help us? Given how successful the project is... |
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* Shouldn't we finally have this integrated as a MediaWiki extension, like the successful Linter? This would spread it to much much more wikis. |
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[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|talk]]) 08:39, 1 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:There was an effort to integrate to a Mediawiki extension. Everything was interrupted due a series of unfortunate events. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 10:16, 1 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::{{reply|Magioladitis}} If you would like to add me as a maintainer to the [https://toolsadmin.wikimedia.org/tools/id/checkwiki checkwiki tool] I can get the enwiki and frwiki jobs running again. I am an experienced developer and run several [https://tools.wmflabs.org/admin/tool/bambots bots/tools]. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 19:04, 1 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:::+1 for Bamyers99 request: we need someone that can do this kind of action. If you want to add me also, but I've never user this tools. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 10:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Magioladitis|Ladsgroup}} Anyone could add a maintainer to unblock the jobs ? --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 07:59, 4 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] : thanks for the explanation ! [[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]]: Pinging [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing]] to see if we can get some assistance on this one. Linter could integrate many of the detections I think, maybe in the future. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 10:44, 1 November 2017 (UTC) |
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I just added [[User:Bamyers99]] as maintainer, hope that helps. [[user:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]]<sup>[[User talk:Ladsgroup|overleg]]</sup> 15:38, 4 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Ladsgroup}} Thanks. I am able to log on and will try to get enwiki and frwiki running again and figure out where the infinite loop is. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 15:51, 4 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:enwiki and frwiki are working again. An infinite loop bug has been fixed. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 22:44, 6 November 2017 (UTC) |
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As an OT comment, I'm glad to see activity in this wikiproject. The English Wikipedia is unfortunately behind with [[#Tidy_replacement|the Tidy fixes]], while, if all goes well, a couple of big other wikis like the German and the Italian Wikipedia will be on track for an early switch to Remex a few weeks from now. I plan to nudge the English Wikipedia community once again soon, this time at the technical Village Pump. Obviously curious to hear other ideas of course :) Best, [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 18:10, 21 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:Going to ping {{User|Magioladitis}} here. Bamyers99 got the thing to run again. That should give your bot lots of work to do! <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 19:37, 21 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::Subbu has now provided [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3ALinter&type=revision&diff=811937933&oldid=811797692 2 examples] of stuff that needs fixing here. [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 10:52, 27 November 2017 (UTC) |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=insource%3Aalt+insource%3A%2F%5C%7C+*alt+*%3D+*%5C%7C%2F&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 This search] describes a lot of empty alt attributes that probably should be a real <code>alt</code>. It might be good for WCW to have this on the list of things to fix. The primary cause of these empty alt attributes seems to be [[phab:T284488|VE doing a shitty job]] with images. Looking only within file/image syntax (and not template syntax) to start seems reasonable, and only in the main space (as there are commonly reasons outside main space to want an empty alt text). [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 17:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
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[[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] I order to avoid any false accusations for performing "cosmetic edits" I think we have first to wait for all pages to break and then fix the pages using bots. Ay preamptive action will be considered by some editors are "unnecessary". Any massive fixes by non bot accounts may be considered as "bot like editing". -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 22:45, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:Here are [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=insource%3Aalt+insource%3A%2F%5C%7C+%2Aalt+%2A%3D+%2A%5C%5D%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 another 8,000 pages] using a similar search. There may be some false positives in the results. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Or you know, get consensus / demonstrate that these things are broken / will break / otherwise needs fixing. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 22:59, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
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== No server access today == |
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::I strongly believe that so far WMF has provided all the relevant information that's necessary to start fixing on a large scale, including simplified instructions for people who are not necessarily "techie", and several community members have shared their tools and techniques. Switching has ''already'' happened at major wikis (it.wp, de.wp) and more will follow very soon. How to organise, what to focus on, what to prioritise ([https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:U5nlk1xpuqh6hsxg example]), that's obviously up to each community to decide. Again, if you need specific directions or clarifications, [[User:SSastry (WMF)]] is all ears and always available to provide guidance, tips, support etc. [[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 18:04, 26 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi. Error message : « Could not connect to database: Unknown MySQL server host 'tools-db' (-2) » [[User:Croquemort Nestor|Croquemort Nestor]] ([[User talk:Croquemort Nestor|talk]]) 04:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Improvements to error 521? == |
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:The issue is still there. Why isn't this a service hosted by the wikipedia foundation btw? [[User:Stefangrotz|Stefangrotz]] ([[User talk:Stefangrotz|talk]]) 13:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC) |
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I've made some additions and improvements to error 521 so it catches more date errors, especially those caught by [[:Category:CS1 errors: dates]]. Would it be possible to update the error so it catches more issues? (e.g. years with more than 4 digits, months > 12, days > 31) Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 16:43, 26 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Croquemort Nestor|Stefangrotz}} It is back up. Just had to kick the web server :). toolforge.org is a wikimedia server. See [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge]]. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 20:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:What's error 521? CW Error codes only go up to 113. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 17:32, 26 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::Thank you for your work! [[User:Stefangrotz|Stefangrotz]] ([[User talk:Stefangrotz|talk]]) 21:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::It's the "Date format for templates" error for [[WP:WPCleaner|WPCleaner]] - see the error_521 section at the bottom of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/Translation]]. [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 17:38, 26 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for your help. [[User:Croquemort Nestor|Croquemort Nestor]] ([[User talk:Croquemort Nestor|talk]]) 03:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Hi [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]]. As errors above 500 are only handled by WPC, not by CW, even if they are configured in the same page, I'm the one who needs to do the improvements on WPC to catch the errors. We can continue the discussion on [[Wikipedia talk:WPCleaner|WPCleaner's talk page]] if you want. I don't have much free time right now (and I try to do major improvements to deal with Linter reports), but we can discuss what should be added. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 11:37, 27 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::::{{ping|NicoV}} Reposted question at [[Wikipedia talk:WPCleaner#Improvements to error 521?]] per your suggestion. Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 14:21, 27 November 2017 (UTC) |
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== ruwiki == |
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Yesterday someone marked all the mistakes as done. Can I request a new dump scan? [[User:Lvova|Lvova Anastasiya]] ([[User talk:Lvova|talk]]) 08:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Hi everyone. Has someone else noticed the slowness problems as mentionned in [[Wikipedia talk:WPCleaner#WPCleaner is significantly slow]]? My analysis is that it comes from checkarticle.cgi or checkwiki_bots.cgi being slow on tools. --[[User:NicoV|NicoV]] <sup>([[:fr:Discussion Utilisateur:NicoV|Talk on frwiki]])</sup> 17:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Lvova}} I will run it after the September 20 or October 1 dump. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 13:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:I've noticed slowness quite a bit on Windows lately. However, I just bough my first Mac this week, and I'm noticing it is much more responsive in this OS. <span style="background: turquoise;font-family: 'Segoe Script', 'Comic Sans MS';">([[User talk:Josve05a|'''t''']]) [[User:Josve05a|<span style="color:white;">'''Josve05a'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Josve05a|'''c''']])</span> 00:14, 19 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:The number of pages with errors has increased and this makes the process very slow even to check for errors. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 22:39, 3 January 2018 (UTC) |
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== Redirect pages == |
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== pl.wikipedia.org last update was on 2017-12-13 == |
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Sometimes checkwiki errors are found on redirect pages, but annoyingly, the links to them in the automatically generated lists for each error are just regular links, so when you click on such a link, it takes you to the page that the redirect points to, which is not correct, because the problem is with the redirect page itself. We should change these links to no redirect links. [[User:TTWIDEE|TTWIDEE]] ([[User talk:TTWIDEE|talk]]) 08:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Polish Wikipedia has not been updated since yesterday. Is there any reason for that? --[[User:The Polish|The Polish]] ([[User talk:The Polish|talk]]) 07:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|TTWIDEE}} The links have been changed to not redirect. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 19:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Phabricator tag == |
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== Malplaced translation page to English Wiktionary at [https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi] == |
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If I want to report an issue or a feature request, is there a phabricator tag? Or should I put it here? [[user:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]]<sup>[[User talk:Ladsgroup|overleg]]</sup> 11:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC) |
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The link to the translation page for English Wiktionary has been incorrectly placed. |
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:{{reply|Ladsgroup}} This is the place for the dump/recent changes scanner. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 13:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC) |
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It is supposed to be [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Translation] but it is placed at [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Translation] which isn't even a page. Can you please rename it. [[User:Pkbwcgs|Pkbwcgs]] ([[User talk:Pkbwcgs|talk]]) 17:41, 21 January 2018 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] I bring the issue to you, please let me know if it's in the wrong place. [[phab:T375973]] is the issue for AWB but checkwiki also has the problem of reporting "reference duplication" for Chicago MoS while it shouldn't report that. [[user:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]]<sup>[[User talk:Ladsgroup|overleg]]</sup> 11:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Pkbwcgs}} The link has been fixed. It was pointing to the wikipedia.org website even for non-Wikipedias. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 18:59, 21 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{reply|Ladsgroup}} If Chicago MoS is site-wide, the error can be disabled. If this is random articles, the articles can be white-listed. Line error_004_whitelistpage_fawiki in [[fa:ویکیپدیا:ویکیپروژه_تصحیح_ویکیپدیا/ترجمه]] is an example for a different error. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 20:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::it's not site-wide, it's on articles in certain topics. Thanks! cc. @Lvova [[user:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]]<sup>[[User talk:Ladsgroup|overleg]]</sup> 21:41, 13 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== CheckWiki error 3 == |
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== Tidy being turned off at 389 wikis next week == |
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This error, "Reference list missing", doesn't account for redirects in ukwiki. I've checked the translation page ([[:uk:Вікіпедія:Проєкт:Check Wikipedia/Translation]]) and it has <code>error_003_templates_ukwiki</code> set, that includes "примітки", but it still triggers on [[:uk:Сезон ФК «Реал Мадрид» 2015—2016]], which has <code><nowiki>{{примітки|2}}</nowiki></code>. What could be the issue here? [[User:MonX94|MonX94]] ([[User talk:MonX94|talk]]) 04:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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{{tracked|T184656}} |
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:{{reply|MonX94}} The translation page was moved in 2022 from [[uk:Вікіпедія:Проект:Check Wikipedia/Translation]]. Checkwiki was reading the old translation page. I have updated the checkwiki database to use the new page. I will process the October 1 dump file when it is ready. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 00:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Thanks! [[User:MonX94|MonX94]] ([[User talk:MonX94|talk]]) 01:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Missing Ref list (Error 3) for Disambiguation pages == |
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[[phab:T184656]] has a list of 389 wikis where Tidy will be removed (and replaced by RemexHTML) on 31 January 2018. These wikis currently have fewer than 10 high-priority problems. |
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While AWB fixing the error 3, "Reference list missing", I found that a large portion of the articles were [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|disambiguation pages]], but disamb pages [[Wikipedia:DABREF|should not have references]]<nowiki>, so therefore no ref lists. I believe there should be a fixing in the code of check wiki to not include the error for pages with {{</nowiki>[[Template:Disambiguation|disambiguation]]<nowiki>}}.</nowiki> |
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If you are active at other wikis, please look over the list and check your favorites. If you notice problems after the switch, then please feel free to ping me, or (especially if it's urgent) leave a comment in the Phab task where the devs will see it. [[User:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)|talk]]) 18:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
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[[User:Bunnypranav|Bunnypranav]] ([[User talk:Bunnypranav|talk]]) 15:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Failed substitition == |
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:{{reply|Bunnypranav}} It only reports error 3 if it finds a <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag. Examples: [[Mazda (disambiguation)]], [[Masterpiece (disambiguation)]] The pages would look better with a references section instead of the references displaying at the bottom of the page. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 18:57, 19 October 2024 (UTC) |
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see [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%2F%5C%7B%5C%7Bsubst%3A%5B%5EA%5D%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=default&fulltext=1 this search]. some of these are false positives (e.g., inside comments), but many are not. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 14:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] that is true, but dab page should not have a ref tag at all, so why a references section? [[User:Bunnypranav|Bunnypranav]] ([[User talk:Bunnypranav|talk]]) 05:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Frietjes}} [https://tools.wmflabs.org/checkwiki/cgi-bin/checkwiki.cgi?project=enwiki&view=only&id=34 Error #34] reports these. I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Translation&diff=prev&oldid=822473536 updated] the description to reflect this. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 16:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{reply|Bunnypranav}} If the references need to be removed, why would you want checkwiki to stop reporting them? --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 12:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:: thanks, I have started fixing some of them. looks like the citation mangling were through {{U|Ohconfucius}}'s script by editors like {{U|Tony1}} [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Novorossiya_(confederation)&type=revision&diff=816399429&oldid=815401401 here] [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Karachi&type=revision&diff=815665165&oldid=815483093], {{U|Iggy the Swan}} [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dejan_Lovren&type=revision&diff=810984197&oldid=810983698 here] [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Willis&type=revision&diff=809973783&oldid=809973265 here], {{U|Ohconfucius}} [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ellen_Johnson_Sirleaf&type=revision&diff=817667587&oldid=817503069 here] ... I really don't think we should be changing article titles like that. if the article title uses a particular case convention, we should probably use the same case convention, and not change the article title. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 16:07, 26 January 2018 (UTC) |
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::::@[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] If the reference need to be removed, check wiki should not report them under error 3, as one fixing error 3 might assume that they should add a ref list, not remove the refs right? [[User:Bunnypranav|Bunnypranav]] ([[User talk:Bunnypranav|talk]]) 13:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:: [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=John_Wilson_(conductor)&type=revision&diff=811418646&oldid=798252713 this one] and [//en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jonny_Woo&type=revision&diff=817197845&oldid=811159351 this one] were particularly pointless. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 16:44, 26 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::{{reply|Bunnypranav}} I have updated the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia/Translation&diff=prev&oldid=1252276825 error description] to include disambiguation page with disallowed <ref> tag. --[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]] ([[User talk:Bamyers99|talk]]) 17:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Those are evidence of a malformed script, as far as I can tell. I reverted a few to send the operator a notification. I have also cleaned up a few of the pages in the search. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 16:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC) |
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::::::Thanks @[[User:Bamyers99|Bamyers99]], this will alert and inform future editors. [[User:Bunnypranav|Bunnypranav]] ([[User talk:Bunnypranav|talk]]) 12:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC) |
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empty alt attributes
[edit]This search describes a lot of empty alt attributes that probably should be a real alt. It might be good for WCW to have this on the list of things to fix. The primary cause of these empty alt attributes seems to be VE doing a shitty job with images. Looking only within file/image syntax (and not template syntax) to start seems reasonable, and only in the main space (as there are commonly reasons outside main space to want an empty alt text). Izno (talk) 17:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Here are another 8,000 pages using a similar search. There may be some false positives in the results. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
No server access today
[edit]Hi. Error message : « Could not connect to database: Unknown MySQL server host 'tools-db' (-2) » Croquemort Nestor (talk) 04:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is still there. Why isn't this a service hosted by the wikipedia foundation btw? Stefangrotz (talk) 13:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Croquemort Nestor and Stefangrotz: It is back up. Just had to kick the web server :). toolforge.org is a wikimedia server. See wikitech:Help:Toolforge. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work! Stefangrotz (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. Croquemort Nestor (talk) 03:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work! Stefangrotz (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
ruwiki
[edit]Yesterday someone marked all the mistakes as done. Can I request a new dump scan? Lvova Anastasiya (talk) 08:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lvova: I will run it after the September 20 or October 1 dump. --Bamyers99 (talk) 13:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Redirect pages
[edit]Sometimes checkwiki errors are found on redirect pages, but annoyingly, the links to them in the automatically generated lists for each error are just regular links, so when you click on such a link, it takes you to the page that the redirect points to, which is not correct, because the problem is with the redirect page itself. We should change these links to no redirect links. TTWIDEE (talk) 08:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TTWIDEE: The links have been changed to not redirect. --Bamyers99 (talk) 19:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Phabricator tag
[edit]If I want to report an issue or a feature request, is there a phabricator tag? Or should I put it here? Ladsgroupoverleg 11:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ladsgroup: This is the place for the dump/recent changes scanner. --Bamyers99 (talk) 13:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 I bring the issue to you, please let me know if it's in the wrong place. phab:T375973 is the issue for AWB but checkwiki also has the problem of reporting "reference duplication" for Chicago MoS while it shouldn't report that. Ladsgroupoverleg 11:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ladsgroup: If Chicago MoS is site-wide, the error can be disabled. If this is random articles, the articles can be white-listed. Line error_004_whitelistpage_fawiki in fa:ویکیپدیا:ویکیپروژه_تصحیح_ویکیپدیا/ترجمه is an example for a different error. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- it's not site-wide, it's on articles in certain topics. Thanks! cc. @Lvova Ladsgroupoverleg 21:41, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ladsgroup: If Chicago MoS is site-wide, the error can be disabled. If this is random articles, the articles can be white-listed. Line error_004_whitelistpage_fawiki in fa:ویکیپدیا:ویکیپروژه_تصحیح_ویکیپدیا/ترجمه is an example for a different error. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 I bring the issue to you, please let me know if it's in the wrong place. phab:T375973 is the issue for AWB but checkwiki also has the problem of reporting "reference duplication" for Chicago MoS while it shouldn't report that. Ladsgroupoverleg 11:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
CheckWiki error 3
[edit]This error, "Reference list missing", doesn't account for redirects in ukwiki. I've checked the translation page (uk:Вікіпедія:Проєкт:Check Wikipedia/Translation) and it has error_003_templates_ukwiki set, that includes "примітки", but it still triggers on uk:Сезон ФК «Реал Мадрид» 2015—2016, which has {{примітки|2}}. What could be the issue here? MonX94 (talk) 04:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @MonX94: The translation page was moved in 2022 from uk:Вікіпедія:Проект:Check Wikipedia/Translation. Checkwiki was reading the old translation page. I have updated the checkwiki database to use the new page. I will process the October 1 dump file when it is ready. --Bamyers99 (talk) 00:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! MonX94 (talk) 01:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
Missing Ref list (Error 3) for Disambiguation pages
[edit]While AWB fixing the error 3, "Reference list missing", I found that a large portion of the articles were disambiguation pages, but disamb pages should not have references, so therefore no ref lists. I believe there should be a fixing in the code of check wiki to not include the error for pages with {{disambiguation}}.
Bunnypranav (talk) 15:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: It only reports error 3 if it finds a <ref> tag. Examples: Mazda (disambiguation), Masterpiece (disambiguation) The pages would look better with a references section instead of the references displaying at the bottom of the page. --Bamyers99 (talk) 18:57, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 that is true, but dab page should not have a ref tag at all, so why a references section? Bunnypranav (talk) 05:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: If the references need to be removed, why would you want checkwiki to stop reporting them? --Bamyers99 (talk) 12:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 If the reference need to be removed, check wiki should not report them under error 3, as one fixing error 3 might assume that they should add a ref list, not remove the refs right? Bunnypranav (talk) 13:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: I have updated the error description to include disambiguation page with disallowed <ref> tag. --Bamyers99 (talk) 17:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Bamyers99, this will alert and inform future editors. Bunnypranav (talk) 12:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: I have updated the error description to include disambiguation page with disallowed <ref> tag. --Bamyers99 (talk) 17:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 If the reference need to be removed, check wiki should not report them under error 3, as one fixing error 3 might assume that they should add a ref list, not remove the refs right? Bunnypranav (talk) 13:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: If the references need to be removed, why would you want checkwiki to stop reporting them? --Bamyers99 (talk) 12:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 that is true, but dab page should not have a ref tag at all, so why a references section? Bunnypranav (talk) 05:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)