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== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest|Women in Red World Contest]] ==


== cand q ==
Hi. We're into the last five days of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest|Women in Red World Contest]]. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!
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Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:
== A little help, if you don't mind??? ==
* '''[[Liviu Holender]]''' chose [[lied]]er by five composers whose music was banned by the Nazis—[[Franz Schreker|Schreker]], [[Alexander von Zemlinsky|Zemlinsky]], [[Gustav Mahler|Mahler]], [[Erich Wolfgang Korngold|Korngold]] and [[Arnold Schoenberg|Schönberg]]—for a recital at the [[Oper Frankfurt]].


What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi ::{{ping|Primefac}} !
:I assume you mean the article and not the DYK hook itself (which has nothing to do with infoboxes). I suppose the article doesn't really tell me anything about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024, which... I guess is a good thing? I don't see any evidence of warring or dispute over the infobox. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 16:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:: I meant the hook mentioning 5 composers whose talk pages might tell you something about the degree of disagreement. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 12:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:::I did not think to look at every talk page, will do so in the near future but I will be largely unavailable for probably <s>24</s> 48 hours. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
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:::: How about now? - November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in [[User:Gerda Arendt#music|music]]. Regarding my (archived question), I found one so far who looked deeply into the matter, [[User talk:Simonm223#cand q|Simonm223]]. There are two composers on the Main page today, [[Siegfried Thiele]] and [[Aaron Copland]]. I find the response of my friend [[Jerome Kohl]] to a question on Copland's article talk promising. What do you think? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 09:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::It is quite refreshing to see discussions on talk pages that are civil, even if the participants disagree. I believe I said something similar in the last round of elections, but it does appear that the age of edit warring over infoboxes has passed. While it's probably not a hill I would die on, I will admit that I like seeing an infobox at the top of biographies, if only to get those "fast facts" about a subject, so to see them in all of these pages shows that general opinions may be shifting from those of a decade ago. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Thank you! - I agree. A few editors of a few FAs don't agree, and they revert a new set of people each year who are used to infoboxes and never heard of a conflict, - I was one of those in 2012 ;) - [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#6 Dec|Today's story]] comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::: On the Main page today [[Jean Sibelius]] on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's [[Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)|Fifth]] from the [[:File:Notre-Dame de Paris, across the Seine, before reopening.jpg|opening of Notre-Dame de Paris]]. We [[User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024#8 Dec|sang in choirs]] today. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::As it should be. That sounds like a delightful day. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 11:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: Thank you! - Listen today to the (new) [[Perplexities after Escher]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 11:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Very interesting! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:01, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::: Thank you! - Listen today to [[Beethoven]]'s 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#16 Dec|2020 DYK set]] when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with [[Antônio Meneses]], because he was on my [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Recent deaths|sad list]] this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::: I come to fix the cellist's name, with [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#18 Dec|a 10-years-old DYK]] and new pics - look for red birds --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)


== Your term on the Arbitration Committee has been extended ==
You have been kind enough to respond to two of my previous inquiries to other users that I contacted about [[AFC]] and on your last advice about a week ago, you said the draft I created would likely be reviewed in just a few days but it still hasn't. I learned from your last message that there are only 200 or so reviewers for new articles so I realize it must be a monumental task to sort through all the new content created daily but still I have seen many articles that were written well after my draft was written and many of those are already approved or declined. Since I wrote my draft back in November and it is still sitting idle I was just hoping that perhaps you can give me a little help and push it forward for a faster review. I would really appreciate any assistance you can give. The draft I wrote is at the following link and it has been worked on by a few others in the Wikipedia community as well. Thank you very kindly in advance for your help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ian_Erix


The Electoral Commission is pleased to announce that your term has been extended for a one-year term to the Arbitration Committee effective January 1, 2025. Congratulations on the appointment.
Best Regards, Stefan 07:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bruinsects|contribs]]) 07:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC)</small>
:{{u|Bruinsects}}, I do apologize, I misread the submission time on your draft - the backlog is currently about two months, and your draft was submitted just over a month ago. Thus, it is likely to be a while before it is reviewed. Thank you for your patience. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


On behalf of ElectCom: —[[User:Cyberpower678|<span style="font-family:monospace;color:green>'''CYBER<span style="color:red>POWER</span>'''</span>]] <span style="font-family:Rockwell">([[User talk:Cyberpower678|<span style="color:red">Merry Christmas</span>]])</span> 13:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi again ::{{ping|Primefac}} :)
:Thanks for the update. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
As you may remember, we have chatted a couple of times while I had been waiting for a draft article I wrote some time ago to be reviewed and you were quite helpful in offering reassurances to me that it was not forgotten about and would eventually get looked over. After 8 weeks of waiting, it was finally reviewed yesterday but unfortunately declined. I do not believe this was a fair decision at all as the reviewer, by their own admission, only looked at 5 of the 43 cited sources and declined then declined the article for lack of notability that I believe is clearly established. I see that there is a possibility to resubmit my draft after making alterations to it but since I believe it clearly meets all the notability guidelines as it is, I would like to have it reviewed again if possible. I have already written to the Wikipedian who declined it just a few moments ago but wanted to reach out to you as well to see if there is any other appropriate measure I can take now. For your reference, please find the note I wrote below to the editor who declined my draft. Any help you can provide with this would be greatly appreciated.
::Congratulations, Primefac! [[User:Maliner|Maliner]] ([[User talk:Maliner|talk]]) 22:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 11:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:congratulations. [[User:Crafterstar|Crafterstar]] ([[User talk:Crafterstar|talk]]) 19:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


== Draft:The Penn Medicine BioBank ==
Hi MadeYouReadThis - Thank you for your review but it does not seem fair at all for you to decline this submission with having admittedly just reviewed 5 out of the 43 citations. I waited for nearly 2 months after submitting this draft to have it looked at for approval and it is simply not right to have it declined after all of this time for not meeting notability guidelines when the vast majority of sources were not even checked, as you yourself have stated. It is true that you state that the Vanity Fair article does not mention Erix directly, but that particular reference was specifically included only to back up the claims that were written about Pearlman in this article. Pearlman was mentioned since his professional relationship is relevant to Erix's career and references to this were also cited. In regard to Broadway World, All Music, Daily Star and Talent Monthly, in my opinion, these references do seem to clearly support the claims in the article and the notability of the subject. Nevertheless, if you for some reason feel differently, there are 38 other cited sources that also seem to clearly establish notability of the subject in my opinion as per the notability guidelines that you cited as part of [[WP:MUSICBIO]] . Erix specifically meets the Criteria for musicians by matching the following 8 out of 12 Criteria for musicians and ensembles listed in the Wikipeida guidelines for what constitutes notable musicians. I copied the 8 criteria he matches below.
1-He has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and independent of the musician himself.
2-Has had a single on a country's national music chart.
3-Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
4-Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
5-Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels.
10-Has performed music for a work of media that is notable
11-Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
12-Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.


Earwig showed 94.7% copyright violation on [[Draft:The Penn Medicine BioBank]] copied from https://pmbb.med.upenn.edu/publications.php [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 22:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
With the above in mind, I kindly ask that you reconsider the decline and review this article again more thoroughly if you have the time or alternately please ask another Wikipedian to take a look at the article as I have spent a lot of time trying to perfect this and follow Wikipedia's guidelines. I do believe it should be passed through based on it's merits and the fact that it does meet all the applicable thresholds.
:Yes, and? I removed that text and a few other paragraphs and now the highest percent match is 7%, matching little more than a phrase. As I said in the decline, it reads like the rest is copied from somewhere, I just don't know where. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 22:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your consideration.
::Much of it seems to be a close paraphrasing of https://pmbb.med.upenn.edu/research.php - and the headings in the draft are copied verbatim, particularly the headings in question format, such as "Can genes help calculate your cancer risk?". ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 22:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Stefan
[[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 06:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Sorry I didn't notice you had removed text. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 22:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
::::No worries, and apologies for the tone... that's what happens when I edit after bed time! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC) {{bcc|Theroadislong}}
:{{u|Bruinsects}}, funny you writing today, because about 12 hours ago I was looking at the decline on your draft and wondering if it was the right call. I see that another reviewer has marked your page as under review, and they're a solid reviewer, so I would wait for their response (which I expect to be much more fair). No guarantees as to whether it will be accepted, but it's very likely you'll receive better feedback. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:07, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Indeed, and I don't necessarily disagree with rejection of the draft until it gets rewritten. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::This is a case of [[WP:TNT]]. Typical crap masquerading as notability, with an overwhelming number of citations that have nothing at all to do with the subject. It's like someone told an AI "paraphrase this page and find sources". The org likely is notable, but that draft certainly doesn't demonstrate it. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 19:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Fair enough, once I get home I'll nuke it. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:BunnysBot]] ==
Hey ::{{ping|Primefac}} Thanks so much for your reply. I wish I was writing to you with the situation resolved but I have to say I am even more perplexed today than I was yesterday. It seems like the draft was edited significantly by the other editor you mentioned who put it under their review yesterday. He or she removed over 20 of the sources I had cited and I thought that editor was still working on the draft so I did not contribute at all in the last 24 hours as I wanted to be respectful and wait for them to finish what they were doing. However, I see now that another Wikipedian has come along and submitted the article for review and then another one declined the article yet again. The reason given, once more, plainly does not make any sense at all. I understand fully that Wikipedia must have strict guidelines and policies in place because otherwise people would write all sorts of untruths and nonsense that would go unchecked. I love the contributory nature of Wikipedia and respect the democracy of it all but that said, it seems totally unethical to have a clearly established set of criteria published on Wikipedia as a guideline for notability at [[WP:MUSICBIO]] and then have those very specific guidelines totally thrown out and ignored by multiple administrators. The subject of my draft clearly meets 8 of the 12 criteria for notable musicians and this has been established by reliable and independent sources, some of which have now been removed by the last editor who may or may not have been finished making adjustments to the draft. All and all, this has been extremely frustrating as I have been making an honest and sincere effort to contribute to Wikipedia in a proper manner and it seems as if the actual guidelines of the site itself are not being followed by admins. All I am looking for is a fair shake but my time and efforts keep getting dismissed with reasons that fly in the face of logic and reason. Any further help you can offer to resolve this would be so very appreciated. Thanks again. Stefan [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 07:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:::@Primefac:--''Common sense is increasingly becoming uncommon''.IDOH alone knows why he choose to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ian_Erix&diff=821856104&oldid=821764835 remove] the ''under-review'' tag, given that I was actively cleaning-up the draft and even by the wordings of the template, 12 hours has not passed from my last edit.I was actually preparing a detailed reply as to my removal of a chunk of sources along with some additional comments on the state of the draft when I noticed IDOH's de-marking and Chetsford's subsequent review.(I don't blame C at all:)).Anyways, the draft looks like borderline stuff to my eyes.[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 09:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:::@Bruinsects:-- Your re-insertion of the bunch of near-worthless source(s) will further hamper the prospects of the draft, ''for'' no fly-by reviewer will wade through fifty non-reliable half-spammy sources to find one/two rel. source(s) and accept on the basis of those.[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 09:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi ::{{ping|Winged Blades of Godric}}, I did not reinsert sources as an affront to your efforts but as you know another editor came in and declined the draft after your revisions, before you were finished, and I didn't even know if you were going to come back to the article at that point so I thought it was best to undo then. I've just read some of your notes though and I am taking them into consideration and trying to improve the draft based on your criticisms. I do believe there are still at least a few sources you removed that are valid and prove notablity. I hope that perhaps with the shortening of the article that will become more clear and succinct and I will address it as best I can upon my revision. Thanks for your help. Stefan [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 10:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
::::Yeah{{U|Bruinsects|,}} I understood the motivation behind your re-addition of sources:) But as I said, that was unhelpful.Anyways, feel free to list the sources that you feel were wrongly removed and I will be happy to give an explanation.Happy editing! Cheers![[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 11:04, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


Hi Primefac -- Could you have another look at this one, please. It seems to be creating blank pages in error as well as doing a great many cosmetic edits of little or no obvious value. Cheers, [[User:Espresso Addict|Espresso Addict]] <small>([[User talk:Espresso Addict|talk]])</small> 16:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi ::{{ping|Winged Blades of Godric}}! Oh gosh, I can hardly see straight after all the time I spent on this. I've tried so very hard to fix this properly to the very best of my ability using your recommendations and criticisms as well as those from previous editors. I have added a few new sources that I was able to find and I did also put back a few others that I feel are still relevant and believe should be able to stand up more closely to scrutiny since the draft is shortened and much more concise. I hope you will agree and I'd like to thank you for all the time you must have spent on your last edit. After reading through the [[WP:MUSICBIO]] very closely again, I submit that the subject of this draft should meet the notability guidelines on the following merits:
:Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye on the message you left on their talk page. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:Noting that I have fixed the issue of page creations. I plant to some supervised runs for the cosmetic issue. Sorry again! <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#2c5282">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 12:33, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
1- Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
::Glad to hear it. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Primefac|Primefac]] I have a quick question. Do [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/General fixes#Template Redirects (TemplateRedirects)|Template Redirects]] Gen fixes come under cosmetic or not. [[WP:Redirect#Template redirects]] does not clearly state if it is needed or just helpful. Simply stating, does [[Special:Diff/1262465414|this]] come under cosmetic or not. AWB did not automatically skip it, despite a cosmetic only skip option being enabled, hence the confusion. Thanks! <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#2c5282">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 13:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes, changing a template redirect is considered cosmetic, so that diff would be considered to be one. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::I see. Will try to prevent such edits coming forward. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#2c5282">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 13:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::{{U|Bunnypranav}}, the bot's four most recent edits ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Between_Peasants&diff=prev&oldid=1262466240], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=North_Carolina_Commission_of_Indian_Affairs&diff=prev&oldid=1262466213], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=French_railway_metrics&diff=prev&oldid=1262466147], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Reich_law&diff=prev&oldid=1262466105]), made two hours after the above response, appear to be cosmetic. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::<s>{{u|Bunnypranav}}, could you please indicate which CW errors were ''supposed'' to be fixed in those four edits? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)</s> {{small|I didn't think to look at the timestamps, striking comment/question. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:27, 13 December 2024 (UTC)}}
::::::::@[[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] The edits were made on the 11th, before I found this malfunction. Above replies of mine were on the 12th. The bot has not edited a mainspace page at all on the 12th. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#2c5282">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 01:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::My mistake; I read the date wrong. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 01:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)


== No consensous on [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_4#Module:User:Mr._Stradivarius/sandbox2|Mr. Stradivarius/sandbox2]] ==
2- Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.


I don't see how a "No consensus" result was in that discussion. 2vs1 for deletion should at least resulted in a relisting. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 19:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
3- Has received coverage of international tour in at least one sovereign country.
:I took all three discussions into consideration, given they were all making essentially the same argument with the same replies. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::Well, one editor chose not to comment on this one, while they did on the other two. Seeing as how this is an unused sandbox that the author themselves didn't even comment, while in the other two, the author did, it seems their choice not to keep this one, was not by mistake. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 19:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


== A word of thanks ==
4- Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels.


... for dealing with my numerous though very similar OS requests at all hours! '''[[User:JayCubby|<span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span>]][[User talk:JayCubby|<span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span>]]''' 17:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
5- Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film
:Always happy to help. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 22:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
==Happy Holidays to you and yours==
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:Aww, thanks! I'll have the HoF stuff sorted hopefully this week. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::So much appreciated. You're the Best! [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> (UTC) 17:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


==Io Saturnalia!==
6- Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.


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7- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] ([[User talk:Ealdgyth|talk]]) 15:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


== Hello ==
Kindest Regards and thanks for all your help, Stefan [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 11:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)


Please remove all of my rights permanently. Thank you! [[User:Iwaqarhashmi|Iwaqarhashmi]] ([[User talk:Iwaqarhashmi|talk]]) 16:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello again ::{{ping|Primefac}}
:I cannot ''permanently'' remove your rights, but I have removed them as requested. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 16:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Sorry to keep bothering you but it feels as if this review process is dragging on for an unusually long time, unnecessarily. I know you restored a deleted article from several years ago for comparison to my draft as per the request of [[User :Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] and Mr. McClenon was kind enough to create a teahouse discussion about it at[[WP:THQ|the Teahouse]] but it seems to just be sitting there idly now without much feedback at all. I wholeheartedly agree with other editors that previous versions of the draft and previous articles may not have been up to par but I maintain that the most current draft I wrote now does clearly show that the subject meets several of the WP MUSICBIO thresholds so I truly do not understand why this is not an easy pass? Any assistance you can provide in getting a fair and speedy decision here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stefan. [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 22:40, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! [[User:Iwaqarhashmi|Iwaqarhashmi]] ([[User talk:Iwaqarhashmi|talk]]) 16:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::[[User:Bruinsects]] - At this point I have to advise you to read [[WP:BLUDGEON|the essay advising against bludgeoning the process]]. You appear to be [[WP:FORUMSHOP|forum shopping]] in continuing to [[filibuster]]. It isn't "taking an unusually long time". On the contrary, reviewers have been extraordinarily patient in providing you with timely comments on your draft. You say that the discussion at [[WP:THQ|the Teahouse]] is just "sitting there idly without much feedback at all". No. You may be saying that because you don't like the feedback, which criticized the quality of the sources. By continuing to go on and on, in repeated lengthy posts (and you have been advised to be concise), you are just annoying multiple editors. The review process is not so much "dragging on" as being dragged by your persistence. I may comment more later, but you are getting many timely responses, and continuing to [[WP:BLUDGEON|bludgeon the process]]. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 01:23, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


== Request for Comment on Talk Discussion ==
Mr. Mclenon,[[User:Robert McClenon]] Your accusation that I am blungeoning anyone is simply untrue and disingenuous. I reached out to [User:Primefac]] for advice because he had been kind enough to give me some tips in the past as I have been trying to learn all the ways of Wikipedia. I was eagerly anticipating impartial replies from other editors at the Teahouse discussion you created but it's been over 48 hours and nobody new has participated. The only one initial reply came from Chetsford who already declined an old draft that was since replaced and his commentary was actually critical of your judgement in asking to have the previously deleted articles restored in the first place as he stated "the AfC criteria specifically excludes reviewers from acting on information other than that which is contained in the draft". I may be persistent in my belief that the subject of my draft clearly meets WP MUSICBIO but I have always been respectful in my replies and have not blungeoned, filibustered or forum shopped. In fact, this is the ONLY place I have posted since the first review of my draft and I dont believe it's inappropriate to courteously have asked a more experienced editor like Primefac for some advice. [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 04:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
:To clarify, my commentary was not intended to be critical of [[User:Robert McClenon]]. This is the version [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft:Ian_Erix&oldid=821894939] of the article I declined and I stand by that decline ''of this version''. I can't speak in depth to any past or subsequent versions as I haven't looked at them closely and am unlikely to do so. However, just on a very cursory glance of the references listed in the current draft, there are clearly issues as I just see a wall of demonstrably non-RS sources like axs.com and zip.fm.co.jp. If this band does meet one of the criteria of [[WP:MUSICBIO]], I'd suggest re-submitting the article as a two or three sentence stub that simply establishes that fact, with adequate reliable sourcing like major news outlets, scholarly journals, published books, or official charts (not iTunes copyright notices, blogs, fan sites, press releases on Broadway World, etc.).<br/>The reality is that reviewers are humans, not robots or computer algorithms, and spend most of their time declining articles from garage bands and weekend novelists. When you submit a thousand word article - 90% of which is unsupported by anything resembling RS - it just looks fishy and is likely to get declined, even if there may be a sentence buried deep inside of it establishing its acceptability under MUSICBIO. That may not be fair or judicious but at the end of the day this is Wikipedia, not the European Court of Human Rights. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 05:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


Hello :-)
Thank you for the clarification. [[User:Chetsford]] Everything you say makes perfect sense and I get that all reviewers are only human and can only spend so much time doing this work. It must be unimaginably frustrating declining trivial drafts over and over again that don't meet notability guidelines or even come close in many cases. I do get that this is not the European Court Of Human Rights, LOL, thanks for the chuckle! But that said, this is a democracy of sorts and nobody is being forced to volunteer their time on Wikipedia to be a reviewer so I feel that if you are going to voluntarily take on this righteous task, and someone like me waits for 2 months to have their first draft reviewed, than you should at the very least receive the courtesy of having your writings fully reviewed and the sources checked, even if it is long-winded. Again, I know this is not a court of law but could you imagine if a person was convicted after the defense only presented 1/3 of their case and called 1/3 of their witnesses? I know it's not the same but I am sure you can get where I am coming from with the analogy. In this situation, my draft could even potentially be dismissed erroneously by an editor like you, who seems like a perfectly reasonable and fair minded person. But since you don't recognize some references, you mentioned Zip FM at your cursory glance, you like many others will assume it is fluff. However, Zip FM is a major national radio station in Japan. One of the biggest in that country with millions of listeners. I wouldn't expect you to know that off hand but I imagine there must be some guidelines in place for editors to check what references are notable before they are just nonchalantly dismissed. Billboard Magazine has plenty of articles about Zip Fm in particular. See here: https://books.google.com/books?id=HwoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA66&dq=zip+fm+japan&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4uZDrlITZAhWywVkKHW5QDlAQ6AEIKzAB#v=onepage&q=zip%20fm%20japan&f=false and here https://books.google.com/books?id=vwcEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=zip+fm+japan&source=bl&ots=g3cMj5PCNx&sig=hXUmbePBM1DKT5GNCTcDYfHUPRo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiq0airmITZAhUFk1kKHXMoAd8Q6AEIWzAH#v=onepage&q=zip%20fm%20japan&f=false - And the subject of my draft had a #5 song on their charts in August 2017 which I cited in my draft and thereferoe he meets the threshold of being on a national radio playlist as per [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. While I realize that some sources I have listed on my draft are stronger than others for proving notability, I read that it is okay to use secondary, supporting and auxiliary sources to establish some content that has been reported about the subject in the article even if that specific content does not go toward establishing his notability as long as other sources do merit the subjects inclusion in Wikipedia. Again, the fact that he has had a gold record, been on national radio playlists and music charts, has had his music featured in a major TV show, released more than 2 albums on a major label etc. should be enough to establish the notability according to [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. Have I understood this wrong? [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 07:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
:I've looked at this draft more times than I can count, and quite honestly it's such a borderline case that I'm going to take {{u|Winged Blades of Godric|Godric's}} cue and accept the draft. I make no guarantees how well it will go, but at the moment we're getting precisely nowhere. For what it's worth, I don't think that Bruinsects has been bludgeoning the process, but they definitely should have been slightly less verbose in their replies (in various locations) and less... persistent... there is no rush to get drafts accepted, and honestly I think if they had stepped back for a week or two, let the air clear, and ''then'' asked about improvements we'd all be less anxious about the whole thing. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 14:13, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
:Bruininsects - I'm sorry I didn't read your entire reply, however, vis a vis Zip FM ... the website of the Japanese radio station to which you're referring is zip-fm.co.jp. That's not what you referenced. You referenced zip.fm.co.jp. We can only review what you've written, not what you meant to write. Zip.fm.co.jp is ''not'' a reliable source. [[User:Chetsford|Chetsford]] ([[User talk:Chetsford|talk]]) 16:08, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
::Agree with PFac's accept.Have reverted to a better-version.[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">~ ''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 16:28, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
My deepest apologies if I have been too verbose or overzealous at times [[User:Primefac]]. After nearly two months in the draft queue, I was simply eager to move on from my first draft subject and I am sorry to all involved if I advocated too strongly for anyone's liking. In response to [[User: Chetsford]] that was just a one letter typo in the reference title, the url did link properly to zip-fm.co.jp but your point is well taken. Thank you [[User: Primefac]] for passing the draft through today. I am a bit confused though by [[User:Winged Blades of Godric]] who it seems reverted back to a previous version after the articles acceptance. The current article is now missing sources and says "citations needed". Is it safe to assume it is okay for me go back in there now and insert the citations? Thanks. [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects|talk]]) 21:44, 1 February 2018 (UTC)


May I respectfully request your comment/opinion on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/List_of_reviewers_by_subject#Probationary_Reviewers_on_the_%22List_of_reviewers_by_subject%22 this] Talk discussion? I would ask you directly, here, but I figured I should place it in a more public space should someone else have the same question as me. Thank you :-) [[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]] ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 23:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
== First adminship anniversary! ==
:Replied there. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 07:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


== Happy Holidays! ==
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'''Hello Primefac:''' Enjoy the '''[[Christmas and holiday season|holiday season]]'''&#32;and '''[[winter solstice]]''' if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, [[User:KatnissEverdeen|<span style="color:#7F00FF">'''Katniss'''</span>]] [[User talk:KatnissEverdeen|<span style="color:#FF007F"> ''May the odds be ever in your favor'' ♥</span>]] 16:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:19, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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"Congrats" [[User:Lacypaperclip|Lacypaperclip]] ([[User talk:Lacypaperclip|talk]]) 20:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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:Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)


== Situational question ==
==Deletion of IEEE article history==
*Every* revision of [[Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers]] for the last 14 years is a copyright violation? This is extremely unusual. Could you explain why you had to delete the article this way? --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 19:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::It was copied directly from the IEEE website, and despite the age I highly doubt the IEEE is copying their own information from us. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:19, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::{{tps}} And on top of that, it has no encyclopedic value because it was incredibly promotional (see deleted revisions containing "we strive", "we do" etc...) <span style=font-size:11px>[[User:Chrissymad|<span style="color:#614051">CHRISSY</span><span style="color:#301934;font-size:11px">'''MAD'''</span>]] <span style="color:#9090C0;letter-spacing:-2px;font-size:9px">❯❯❯</span>[[User talk:Chrissymad|<span style="color:#614051;font-size=11px">¯\_(ツ)_/¯</span>]]</span> 19:23, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{tps}} I provided a second set of eyes for Primefac on this. He is correct. This was a copyright violation since 2004. We come across old copyvios somewhat frequently, and unfortunately we have to hide the revision history once we are aware of it. [[William H. Keeler]] is one where Diannaa had to hide almost 12 years worth of history at my request (pre-admin days). It is unfortunate, but it is the standard practice on en.wiki for dealing with copyright violations, even if they are longstanding. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 19:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:::I had never seen so many revisions deleted before. I can't see them, that's why they are deleted. Glad we have more oversight than the Hawaii civil defense system. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 19:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::::See [[Padmashali]] for another example. Nearly 11 years:)[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 11:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


Have a question about a situation I've run across and would like guidance. Not sure if its a "Take to AN for clarification from two accounts, report both users for possible meat or possible noncontributing behavior, or an ignore it for odd but not actionable behavior at this time" situation.
== harassment has started or continued ... ==


Person A created their account in November, made 6 edits to their userpage, and has since made 388 edits to Person B's sandbox. Person B (created Dec 2022) is still actively editing, made 20 or so edits to mainspace a year or two ago, but has made 5900+ edits to their own sandbox. When I asked Person A last month if there was any connection between the two accounts or that was also their account, I received no response. I have not asked Person B anything since they haven't done anything questionable other than the predominate sandbox editing.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lacypaperclip&oldid=820995719]


Your, or any TPS thoughts on this situation? Thanks, happy holidays! [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 18:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi Primefac, could block and/or squash this ASAP? Perhaps have some "Checkuser" could check it's ip, and see by the location, who the person might possibly be, to see who the sockpuppet could possibly be?
:My immediate thoughts are that it is/was two students working on a school project. I would probably ask B what their intentions are, especially if they're not actually editing other than their userspace. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, their sandbox content didn't give me the impression of student project since it was a Big Brother reality show type of page in Spanish with contestant details and tables with elimination status by week. I've run into a fair number of student assignments here and I can typically identify those by their language, focus, and the not infrequent "In Conclusion" section. I'll ask Person B to clarify their intent and connection to Person A and see if I get any response. Thank you. [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 21:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== Happy holidays! ==
Thanks! [[User:Lacypaperclip|Lacypaperclip]] ([[User talk:Lacypaperclip|talk]]) 20:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} Blocked the account, nuked their edits/page creations. --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 20:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


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Primefac, from working at TFD to ArbCom to your duties as a 'crat, you do a lot around here and it is noticed and appreciated! Thank you for finally completing the merge of {{tl-r|clickable button 2}} to {{t|clickable button}}, thank you for all of the by-its-nature very hidden [[WP:OS]] work you do, and I have enjoyed working with you to sort out [[User:Primefac/TLTs|the TLTs which might need renaming]]. And a special shout out to making the desperately-needed [[Special:Diff/1254628566|move]] of {{tl-r|pp}} to {{t|Protection padlock}}. Best to you and yours in 2025, and happy holidays! <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 05:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{lang|gla|Mòran taing}}, my friend. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 07:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


==Yo Ho Ho!==
Chinneylove Eze is a Nigerian movie producer [[User:Babatunde Adeniyi|Babatunde Adeniyi]] ([[User talk:Babatunde Adeniyi|talk]]) 21:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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:That's cool. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 22:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|talk]]) is wishing you [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Seasons Greetings]]! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's [[Solstice]] or [[Christmas]], [[Diwali]], [[Hogmanay]], [[Hanukkah]], [[Lenaia]], [[Festivus]] or even the [[Saturnalia]], this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br />
== Template protection (2) ==


<small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{[[WP:SUBST|subst]]:[[User:WereSpielChequers/Dec19b]]}} to your friends' talk pages</small>.
Can you explain why you protected [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3ABibliowiki&type=revision&diff=821200398&oldid=821019883 this]? I don't know of any relevant vandalism problems. (please use {{tl|ping}} if you respond here.) ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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:{{u|Koavf}}, there has been a huge increase in the amount of drive-by template vandalism, and in an effort to cut down on the amount of gigantic phalluses (phallusi?) that pop up on pages I [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#A_proposal_to_permanently_semi-protect_the_Template_space|started a discussion]] about semi-protecting high-transclusion templates, and the general consensus is to go for it. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 00:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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What's the rationale for which ones are protected? [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiProject_Futurama&action=history This one] hadn't been edited in four years. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 00:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:See my reply above. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 00:42, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah sorry didn't fully read it before leaving here. I won't argue it. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 00:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Aye, no worries, you're clearly not the only one! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 01:00, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
What transclusion count or other metric are you using to identify a template as "high-usage"? [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 04:00, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:250+ transclusions. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
::Not 200+? [[Template:WikiProject Frank Zappa|One of the protected templates]] I came across has 201 transclusions. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 00:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
:::The original list was 200+, but I trimmed it down to only 250+. If any slipped through that was unintentional. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 05:06, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
::::I've only checked this template because it was near the top of the list in the protection log. The templates that immediately follow it are {{tl|WikiProject Graffiti/class}}, {{tl|WikiProject Hazara}} and {{tl|WikiProject Galicia}}, with transclusion counts of 233, 233 (again) and 237 respectively. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 05:22, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

== Template protection (3) ==

Hi, would you be able to unprotect [[Template:Language families]], [[Template:Pama–Nyungan languages]] and [[Template:Tourism in Kerala]]? The situation is more or less the same as the Indonesian languages template from a few days ago. Thanks! – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 13:21, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:And can I also add [[Template:Sign language navigation]], [[Template:Languages of Nigeria]] and [[Template:Languages of China]]. Cheers! – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 13:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
::{{done}}. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Appreciated! – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 13:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

== Histmerge request ==

Hi. Thanks for the histmerge for [[Polo Reyes]]. Could you see if a histmerge is also possible for [[Draft:Devin Clark (fighter)]] and [[Devin Clark (fighter)]], which was also created by a copy-paste move of an AfC draft, which resulted in the AfC submission being declined? [[User:Bennv3771|Bennv3771]] ([[User talk:Bennv3771|talk]]) 15:43, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}}. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:54, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
::Wow you work fast. Thanks again. [[User:Bennv3771|Bennv3771]] ([[User talk:Bennv3771|talk]]) 16:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

== Why semi-protect this template? ==

Primefac, I was surprised to see you semi-protect [[Template:WikiProject Citizendium Porting]] "to combat systematic vandalism" when it has never experienced any vandalism. Indeed, the only edits since 2010 were related to a deletion nomination. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:grey;">[[User:RockMagnetist|RockMagnetist]]([[User talk:RockMagnetist|talk]])</span> 18:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:See [[#Template protection (2)]] above. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 18:29, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

== Draft:Rosen Heights - Fort Worth, Texas - community on North Side) ==

I've reapplied the copyvio review of [[Draft:Rosen Heights - Fort Worth, Texas - community on North Side)]]. I see your point that the copied information is within quotes, and if this were a single long quote in the middle of an otherwise reasonably written article, I'd agree. But this makes up nearly the entire article, the article is a copy and past of the URL mentioned. I'm not asking that it be speedily deleted but am noting the copyright violation to the submitter.--[[User:MadeYourReadThis|MadeYourReadThis]] ([[User talk:MadeYourReadThis|talk]]) 21:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|MadeYourReadThis}}, fair enough, and in reading the decline reason "the whole thing is one big quote" does fall within the |cv| decline. Thanks. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 21:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

== Unprotect Haryana template==
Please unprotect the Haryana template. I wish to make some additions, forts, stepwells, etc. I do not have wikipedia account and not willing to register also but I do make edits from time to time as you can see from my talk page. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.182.84|202.156.182.84]] ([[User talk:202.156.182.84|talk]]) 22:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}}. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 22:21, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

== Swiss flag in infoboxes ==

Hi, I noticed the Swiss flags are quite large in the infoboxes for nation at xxx games pages. Is there away to reduce the sizing? [[User:Sportsfan 1234|Sportsfan 1234]] ([[User talk:Sportsfan 1234|talk]]) 22:42, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
:On another note, is it possible to add a link to closing ceremony flag bearers? [[User:Sportsfan 1234|Sportsfan 1234]] ([[User talk:Sportsfan 1234|talk]]) 22:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
::It's the downside of having the Swiss flag being square. I suppose we could add in a size param to the template, but then we'd have to retrofit all hundred-odd instances of the flag. Not sure if it's worth it for that.
::As for flag bearers, wouldn't it be possible to just add "(Opening)" and "(Closing)" to the param, e.g. {{para|flagbearer|Joe Bloggs (Opening)(br)Jane Doe (Closing)}}? Otherwise, yes, it's possible, but it seems a little unnecessary? Willing to discuss it further though. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 22:55, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
:::I agree regarding the Swiss flag. It isn't a big problem, but its huge lol.
:::As for the flag bearers, that is fine (this is what was done for Sochi), but the infobox does not link to the closing flag bearers page. I think it would be best if we had two lines one for the opening and one for the closing. Most, if not all countries have different flag bearers. [[User:Sportsfan 1234|Sportsfan 1234]] ([[User talk:Sportsfan 1234|talk]]) 23:18, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
::::Ah, didn't realize that we started doing separate pages (I took a look at 2004 Summer and it just had the Opening). Yeah, I'll code something up. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 23:29, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::Perfect thank you! [[User:Sportsfan 1234|Sportsfan 1234]] ([[User talk:Sportsfan 1234|talk]]) 01:06, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

== Request on 00:23:24, 22 January 2018 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Comics Creator Pages ==
{{anchor|00:23:24, 22 January 2018 review of submission by Comics Creator Pages}}
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Hi, this is the first page about someone I've tried to create, so I'm still getting the hang of things...

I see that you said it was denied on the basis of primary sources, but I'm trying to understand what exactly I was supposed to do differently? I got nearly all the information from interviews, which were either through larger publications like newspapers, or comic book news websites. Wouldn't the most reliable source of information be directly from the person's own words in interviews? There are many other sites that have written things about him, like the "most villains on a cover" piece, but those speak primarily to details like the release dates of his work, and not anything about him personally.

If the article were to only list information such as that (the books he has worked on and nothing else about him personally), while it would probably make for a far less interesting article, would that have a higher likelihood of approval, since none of the information was actually spoken by the person the article is about?

Sorry for the confusion, just trying to understand where I went wrong and how to fix it, because I put a lot of work into this as my first attempt at an article.
Thanks.
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:{{u|Comics Creator Pages}}, the issue with using [[WP:PRIMARY|PRIMARY]] sources like interviews is that it's not independently verified. An interview is fine for verifying something like a birth date or other non-contentious material, but (to use an example from the draft) saying "Riches designed the costumes for X, Y, and Z" and ''only'' referencing his artwork is not verification; all it shows is that he ''designed'' the art (which anyone can do) and there is no indication that said artwork was actually ''used''. I could write the plot lines for a hundred episodes of ''Dr Who'' but if they're never used on the show they're just fan fiction.
:To ping on your second paragraph, we're not here to make "interesting" articles, but factually accurate ones. Sometimes that means it is "boring", but if Riches is as well-known as the current draft makes him out to be, then there should be no issue with finding sourcing in reliable, independent works. But at the end of the day, if you cannot find a non-primary source for verification, and someone ''might'' say "I don't think this is true", then the information should probably not be included on the page. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:55, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

==Crystalball==
Hmm...[[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KDS4444|Predictions and all.....]]Remember it?[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 14:13, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:Yup, entirely unsurprising. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 14:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
::{{bcc|Winged Blades of Godric}}On that subject, though, [[Special:Diff/821952321|this]] seems a bit like gravedancing, no? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:::That was a nice template:) never knew about it! And, yeah, that was badly-worded.What seems to be the case is that (in all probabilities) he has used throw-away accs. prior to the PE-Saga.The part. account was netted only because he re-choose to use it, very recently, after keeping it dormant for years, once his using it to cast a !vote in his own-nom-AFD was met.[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 15:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

==Railway in Haryana==
Hi, I was wonder why my edits were revdel'd on the [[Railway in Haryana]]. All I did was added sections, and ce'd it a bit. I never even noticed the copyvio bit. [[User:Scope creep|scope_creep]] ([[User talk:Scope creep|talk]]) 16:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:Sometimes copyvios don't show up on the report. I've done about 15 this morning already, but I seem to recall this one I had to manually input the URL into the copyvios tool to get a match. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 16:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
::I never saw it, but why was my revisions revdel'd, is it not wide of the mark? None of the stuff I did, which were section heads, were copyvio? :::I looking more for the reason. It has happened to me before, with Diannaa, removing huge chunks of articles, which I don't mind. But all did I did was approve it out of Afc, and add section heads. There shouldn't be any revdel next to my edits. [[User:Scope creep|scope_creep]] ([[User talk:Scope creep|talk]]) 16:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Because the offending text was present before you edited, and removed after you finished editing. ''All'' revisions holding copyright violations are removed. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 16:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
::::Right, of course it must work that way. Reet. [[User:Scope creep|scope_creep]] ([[User talk:Scope creep|talk]]) 16:55, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
==pings==
Can anon editors ping others using {ping}, {u}, {re} or something like that? Neither [[WP:ECHO]], nor [[mw:Help:Echo#Technical details]] are clear about it. —<span style="font-size: 104%; letter-spacing:1.5pt;"><span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran[[User talk:Usernamekiran|<span style="letter-spacing:1pt;">'''(talk)'''</span>]]</span></span> 22:57, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
::<small>pinging myself at {{u|Usernamekiran}}, while logged out.[[Special:Contributions/117.200.192.24|117.200.192.24]] ([[User talk:117.200.192.24|talk]]) 22:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)</small>
:::I just pinged myself as an anon. Anon can ping. <small>Echo {{ping|Usernamekiran}}</small>—<span style="font-size: 104%; letter-spacing:1.5pt;"><span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran[[User talk:Usernamekiran|<span style="letter-spacing:1pt;">'''(talk)'''</span>]]</span></span> 23:03, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
::::One cant ping their own account. :-/<br />I apologise for using your talkpage as testwiki. Kindly dont get mad at me. I did it for the sake of science. See you around. {{p|:)}} <br />—<span style="font-size: 104%; letter-spacing:1.5pt;"><span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran[[User talk:Usernamekiran|<span style="letter-spacing:1pt;">'''(talk)'''</span>]]</span></span> 23:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::Science is always an acceptable excuse! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
::::::{{p|:d}} —<span style="font-size: 104%; letter-spacing:1.5pt;"><span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran[[User talk:Usernamekiran|<span style="letter-spacing:1pt;">'''(talk)'''</span>]]</span></span> 20:00, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

==[[Rovshan Muradov]]==
Hi [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Primefac| Primefac]. I saw yesterday you deleted a page I had created. Could you please tell me the reason why it was speedily deleted? There were written "variety reasons". Can I still edit that? Or can I now create a new page with the same name and upload new content? Thanks.[[User:Emmmka|Emmmka]] ([[User talk:Emmmka|talk]]) 07:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Emmmka
:{{u|Emmmka}}, the primary reason why I deleted the page was that it was copied directly from another website. Wikipedia takes [[WP:copyright violations]] very seriously, and if the violation is serious enough the entire page is deleted. You are welcome to recreate the page, but you ''must'' write it in your own words.
:As you rewrite your page, please remember to write everything from a [[WP:neutral point of view|neutral point of view]]. Superlatives like "prestigious institution" and mission statements should rarely if ever be used. Just something to keep in mind. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 12:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

== 197.211.32.0/19 block ==

Hi Primefac. Thanks for reblocking the range. Since you aren't a CU, I think you should use something other than {{tl|CheckUser block}} as the block reason. Also, a hard block with ACC ignore doesn't make sense. Accounts created by ACC wouldn't be able to edit without IPBE, which we don't (and most can't) grant. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 04:16, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
:The edits were a continuation of the previous CU block, so I figured that the original block reason was sufficient. I'll ask around and see what the others think. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:39, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
::Hey Primefac (CC: {{ping|JJMC89}}, I just got pointed on to this from ACC. Honestly, I could care less about the CU block as you modified it, not made it, my major concern is the introducing of the hardblock. There appears to be a crapload (to put it lightly) of collateral damage that will be hit by this. If there is a legitimate reason, then I understand, but I have to admit I'm curious what reason that would be. My email is open if it's private info. -- [[User talk:DeltaQuad|<span style="color:white;background-color:#8A2DB8"><b>Amanda</b></span>]] <small>[[User:DeltaQuad|(aka DQ)]]</small> 07:36, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
:::{{u|DeltaQuad}}, when I was making the block it ''felt'' like there was too much collateral for the OS-related issues I was finding, but I couldn't find a small enough range that would adequately cover it. I think single-IP blocks will be used on this range when it happens again. I've unblocked. Thanks for the input. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

== Thanks 2 ==

I'm placing this here because I can't comment at [[User talk:Diannaa]]. I seem to be locked out there for some odd reason. I had never used that template before, and when I saw what it produced I immediately modified the offending link so it wasn't visible or would work. When I checked the results of that edit, I saw that there was still a huge template and immediately decided to just delete the whole thing. I did that, saved my work, but when I checked, you had just done it at exactly the same time. Now it's gone, and that's what I wanted. Sorry about that, and thanks for doing it. No offense intended. -- [[User:BullRangifer|BullRangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer|talk]]) 17:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
:No worries, I figured that happened. Sometimes people copy the template and don't remember to comment it out with either {{tag|nowiki|open}} or {{t|t}}. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 18:09, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
:: I thought I had, but then realized I had only done it with the one in the text. The actual template was still working very well, even creating its own separate section. I realize now why I can't access those edits. You did that too. Cool. -- [[User:BullRangifer|BullRangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer|talk]]) 18:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

== A kitteh for you! ==

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Favrite kitteh is here to thank you for your work clearing out [[:Category:AfC submissions declined as copyright violations]]. Kthxbai ~~

— [[User:Diannaa|Diannaa]]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;([[User talk:Diannaa|talk]]) 11:58, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
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== [[Template:Wikidata icon]] ==

Hi! Regarding your close at [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_January_16#Template:Wikidata_icon]], you wrote that
:{{tq|This template is contrary to some of the guidelines set down by Wikipedia (including [[WP:EGG]] and [[MOS:ICONS]]), and those advocating for keeping it did not address those main points when discussing the issue}}.

However, I directly addressed the [[MOS:ICONS]] point in a response to James Allison:
:{{tq|According to MOS:ICONS "Repeated use of an icon in a table or infobox" is considered an appropriate use. That probably also extends to lists, by analogy. It might also have uses on talk pages and project pages, which MOS doesn't apply to.}},
which nobody made any come-back to. As for [[WP:EGG]], that is specifically about textual piped links taking a reader to "somewhere other than where they thought it would", and to somewhere that does not make sense in the context. Neither of those two was the case here. As Doc James pointed out, there is little surprise induced by the icon:
:{{tq|When you hover over it, it says from Wikidata. Thus not seeing it as a significant concern.}}

Since the number of opinions for and against the template were otherwise more or less balanced, can I put it to you that a more appropriate close would have been "No consensus", with an admonition that the template, if used at all, should only be used in the circumstances permitted by [[MOS:ICONS]] ? [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|talk]]) 13:33, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
:Hmm, you make some valid points. I'll amend my close. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 15:41, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

== Target change ==

Hey, Prime. What's wrong with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:TheMagnificentist&diff=prev&oldid=822973428 my edit]? I changed the target for privacy reasons. Some editors who renamed have also done the same. — <span style="background:#0F4D92;color:white;padding:1px 10px;">[[User:Zawl|<span style="color:white;font-variant:Small-caps;">'''Za'''</span>]][[User talk:Zawl|<span style="color:white;font-variant:Small-caps;">'''wl'''</span>]]</span> 16:52, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
:Well, mostly it's an improper cross-namespace redirect (user pages should really only redirect to other user pages). You're welcome to [[WP:U1|U1]] the page, which will redlink any non-custom sigs you've placed using the old account. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

== Redirect log ==

Hi Primefac, Greetings. I saw you have closed some of the redirect discussion and wonder you could assist me. I tried to look for redirect log on "Public log" page and cant find "redirect" there. Is there a log page, I could find the redirect log based based on search on editor to view page redirect and the date or redirected. Thank you in advance of your assistance. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 21:19, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|CASSIOPEIA}}, I do apologize, but I have no idea what this is in reference to. That being said, there is no "log" for redirects - just page creations and [[Special:Tags|tag logs]] (search for "redirect" to see the various filters). [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:06, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} The only {{tq|redirect discussion}} is [[WP:RFD]] and there are logs like [[Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_January_30|this]]..link to log should be on the talkpage of the redirect..dunno whether that's what you're looking for though [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 13:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, was thinking that could be a possibility, but I haven't closed an RFD in ages. I'll wait for their reply. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Hi Primefac and {{ping|Galobtter}}, Thank you for the reply. 2 incidents made me asked the question. (1) when working on the counter vandalism on Huggle yesterday, I found out there are a numbers of pages created, without much content and events future, and immediately redirect to a related general namespace. As a new page reviewer, I reverted the edit and tag AfD. While I was doing the reverting, it was redirect back without I notice. And since I was a redirect tag, I withdraw the AfD - see here [[Super Bowl LVII]] which will be held in the year of 2023 redirect to [[Super Bowl]] - [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Bowl LVII]]. (2) I also know that editor example here is [[User:Rickyc123]] created a page without content / only a few words and redirect to a general related namespace and when other editor create the page, the Rickyc123 redirect again which involved copy and delete and the creator of the page became his for his has create such no content redirect close to hundreds of them - see his page creation log for his has previous copied and pasted draft content from other editor to make his page while the draft page being waiting for review (evident is collected and proved). We could know the page is redirect by which editor by view the contribution page but I am not sure we could know the page being redirect to other pages have a log. And also, if we dont know which editor doing the redirect, how would we find out which editor did the redirect? Could a log could find redirect to and from a page to another? All this redirect pages with much content and fails GNG and they are not on [[WP:RFD]]. I have another question as well, could a page redirect without even sits on the review log? I chain of thoughts is that because the redirect page is not a reviewed page but is a name page which sits aside where the nobility is not meet. As I dont know all the policies or process in Wikipedia and might even misunderstand some for such I seek your advise. Thank in advance. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 14:11, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
::::{{tpw}}I'm a bit unsure as to your exact query but [[WP:WLH]] may be of some help.Regards:)[[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 15:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::Okay, let's see if I can pick this apart.
:::::*Huggle sometimes gives you a "vandalous" edit that is actually ''reverting'' the vandalism (yesterday an editor [[Special:Diff/822976483|mistook vandalism for an actual edit]] and self-reverted). It happens.
:::::*As I mentioned, there are a number of Tags that relate to redirects. Some of them tell you when a redirect is removed, some tell you when a redirect is created./
:::::*[[WP:RFD]] is indeed the venue to request deletion of redirects. If you're using Twinkle it will automatically send it to the correct location.
:::::*Future events that ''will definitely happen'' in the next few years such as Super Bowls, Olympics, etc, are perfectly acceptable to create as redirects (assuming it's not something silly like [[Super Bowl C]]). While mass-creation of such redirects isn't exactly desirable, it's not strictly prohibited (but that's also what RFD exists for).
:::::Hopefully I covered the majority of what you were concerned about. If you have other/further questions feel free to ask. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 19:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


::::::: Hi Primefact, Thank you for the explanation. I have further questions

:::::::# If an event would eventually happen, then a editor (say editor A) COULD create an article and immediately redirect to a general related article. What when another editor (say editor B) remove the redirect tag and created the content with all the [[WP:RS]] as the event is on the news now, and submitted the article. The attribution of that article should be editor A or B?
:::::::# What happen if editor create an article and immediately redirect to another general related page - say this time is about footballer which "might/with potential" be drafted to be one of the club, but the nobility has yet to be meet during that time of editor A creation, could this allow to be done? Thanks in advance of the assistance. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 19:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

== More template stuff ==


[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|talk]]) 07:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Hey- I had a go at clearing up the header of the AfC feedback page. The link inviting users to leave feedback from [[Template:AfC talk]] currently uses: <nowiki>{{leave feedback/link|page=Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation|text=leaving us some feedback}}</nowiki>, whereas the link on the feedback page itself uses <nowiki>{{leave feedback|format=link|page=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation|feedbackpage=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/feedback|text=click here|plain=yes}}</nowiki>. What's the difference between [[Template:leave feedback]] and [[Template:leave feedback/link]]? As far as I can tell, the second code (from the feedback page) wikilinks the user's talk page in the section title and the first does not. Am I missing something or am I good to replace the first with the second? Sorry if this doesn't make much sense. [[User:Jcc|jcc]] ([[User talk:Jcc#top|tea and biscuits]]) 20:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{small|For what it's worth, I haven't forgotten about this, but I've been putting out fires and this is a little lower on the priority totem pole. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 14:15, 1 February 2018 (UTC)}}
::Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 07:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


== Kineso tape ==
== Follow Up ==
Hi - you asked to reference the company re Kinesio tape - I can only find "leading US Brand" don't know if this will suffice. If not happy for you to delete again! [[User:Hellinadustcart|Hellinadustcart]] ([[User talk:Hellinadustcart|talk]]) 11:37, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
:Looks better, thanks. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:37, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


What up Primefac! So thankful you responded to my question a while back about switching my name on my Wiki page. Can you {{t|help me}} with a {{subst:Requested move ...}} for my page [[Rawsrvnt]] to now be [[Eddy Puyol]] as I’m no longer rockin under Rawsrvnt? Thanks! [[User:Rawsrvnt|Rawsrvnt]] ([[User talk:Rawsrvnt|talk]]) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
== Bea Miller ==
:Answered at [[User_talk:Rawsrvnt#Help_me!]] (and fixed wikilinks). [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 13:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Good morning Primefac, if today is February 1, 2018 in some parts of the world, then ''[[Spectrum (Bea Miller album)|Spectrum]]'' will not be released in January 2018. Can you please change this back to 2018 at [[Bea Miller]], or something other than January 2018? --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 16:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{fixed}}. I think the addition of the month got caught up in some other stuff I was reverting; wasn't my intention to have it in there. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 17:37, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


== Season's Greetings ==
== A suggested task for PrimeBOT ==


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:Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 07:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== Happy Holidays ==
== 16:13:05, 1 February 2018 review of submission by Dean.Connor ==
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:Thanks! [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 14:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== Declined history merge of [[Chris Koclanes]]/[[Draft:Chris Koclanes]] ==
Hi Primefac,


Hello Primefac, I noticed you declined the history merge, but now that lists me as the page creator when the creation should rightfully be attributed to @[[User:Assadzadeh|Assadzadeh]]. I draftified the article as it was an unreferenced BLP and then requested the cross-namespace redirect be deleted. Is there any way to fix this? [[WP:IAR]]? [[User:Svampesky|<span style="color: #008080">Svampesky</span>]] ([[User talk:Svampesky|<span style="color: #008080">talk</span>]]) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. We have resubmitted our profile page for "Dean Connor" and have added reliable sources from external websites. We are creating this page for our CEO at Sun Life Financial. Please let us know if we need to add anything else to his profile.
:Meh... who creates an article isn't always who edits the page first, but sure, I'll go back to your R2 and delete those. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 20:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== My talk page reverts ==
Thank you!


Hi! You have called me out for reverting edits on pages like [[Talk:Legality of conversion therapy]]. Although that one looks benign, it's part of a pattern of disruptive editing by [[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:B500:5D4:0:0:0:0/64|2603:7000:B500:5D4:0:0:0:0/64]] which led to them being blocked for three months. Their use of talk pages does not line up well with [[WP:TALK]]. For example, see [[Talk:List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage#Large_table_on_talk_page]]. Currently they are evading their three month block by using a mobile address range: [[Special:Contributions/2600:1017:B800:0:0:0:0:0/40|2600:1017:B800:0:0:0:0:0/40]]. I can stop reverting borderline talk page edits, but I thought you might like some of the context. [[User:Ttwaring|Ttwaring]] ([[User talk:Ttwaring|talk]]) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Dean.Connor|Dean.Connor]] ([[User talk:Dean.Connor|talk]]) 16:13, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
:Okay, if you are reverting socking/block evasion, please make sure to use that in your edit summary; otherwise, it looks like you are simply removing talk page sections that might not be perfectly formatted. Thank you for the explanation. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac#top|talk]]) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::Will do. Thanks for the very quick reply! [[User:Ttwaring|Ttwaring]] ([[User talk:Ttwaring|talk]]) 14:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:21, 25 December 2024


cand q

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Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:

What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you mean the article and not the DYK hook itself (which has nothing to do with infoboxes). I suppose the article doesn't really tell me anything about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024, which... I guess is a good thing? I don't see any evidence of warring or dispute over the infobox. Primefac (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I meant the hook mentioning 5 composers whose talk pages might tell you something about the degree of disagreement. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not think to look at every talk page, will do so in the near future but I will be largely unavailable for probably 24 48 hours. Primefac (talk) 12:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
How about now? - November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in music. Regarding my (archived question), I found one so far who looked deeply into the matter, Simonm223. There are two composers on the Main page today, Siegfried Thiele and Aaron Copland. I find the response of my friend Jerome Kohl to a question on Copland's article talk promising. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is quite refreshing to see discussions on talk pages that are civil, even if the participants disagree. I believe I said something similar in the last round of elections, but it does appear that the age of edit warring over infoboxes has passed. While it's probably not a hill I would die on, I will admit that I like seeing an infobox at the top of biographies, if only to get those "fast facts" about a subject, so to see them in all of these pages shows that general opinions may be shifting from those of a decade ago. Primefac (talk) 17:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - I agree. A few editors of a few FAs don't agree, and they revert a new set of people each year who are used to infoboxes and never heard of a conflict, - I was one of those in 2012 ;) - Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As it should be. That sounds like a delightful day. Primefac (talk) 11:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very interesting! Primefac (talk) 13:01, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your term on the Arbitration Committee has been extended

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The Electoral Commission is pleased to announce that your term has been extended for a one-year term to the Arbitration Committee effective January 1, 2025. Congratulations on the appointment.

On behalf of ElectCom: —CYBERPOWER (Merry Christmas) 13:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. Primefac (talk) 15:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, Primefac! Maliner (talk) 22:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 11:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
congratulations. Crafterstar (talk) 19:24, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Primefac (talk) 19:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:The Penn Medicine BioBank

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Earwig showed 94.7% copyright violation on Draft:The Penn Medicine BioBank copied from https://pmbb.med.upenn.edu/publications.php Theroadislong (talk) 22:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and? I removed that text and a few other paragraphs and now the highest percent match is 7%, matching little more than a phrase. As I said in the decline, it reads like the rest is copied from somewhere, I just don't know where. Primefac (talk) 22:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Much of it seems to be a close paraphrasing of https://pmbb.med.upenn.edu/research.php - and the headings in the draft are copied verbatim, particularly the headings in question format, such as "Can genes help calculate your cancer risk?". ~Anachronist (talk) 22:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I didn't notice you had removed text. Theroadislong (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, and apologies for the tone... that's what happens when I edit after bed time! Primefac (talk) 12:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC) [reply]
Indeed, and I don't necessarily disagree with rejection of the draft until it gets rewritten. Primefac (talk) 12:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a case of WP:TNT. Typical crap masquerading as notability, with an overwhelming number of citations that have nothing at all to do with the subject. It's like someone told an AI "paraphrase this page and find sources". The org likely is notable, but that draft certainly doesn't demonstrate it. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, once I get home I'll nuke it. Primefac (talk) 19:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Primefac -- Could you have another look at this one, please. It seems to be creating blank pages in error as well as doing a great many cosmetic edits of little or no obvious value. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 16:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep an eye on the message you left on their talk page. Primefac (talk) 17:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noting that I have fixed the issue of page creations. I plant to some supervised runs for the cosmetic issue. Sorry again! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:33, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear it. Primefac (talk) 13:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac I have a quick question. Do Template Redirects Gen fixes come under cosmetic or not. WP:Redirect#Template redirects does not clearly state if it is needed or just helpful. Simply stating, does this come under cosmetic or not. AWB did not automatically skip it, despite a cosmetic only skip option being enabled, hence the confusion. Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, changing a template redirect is considered cosmetic, so that diff would be considered to be one. Primefac (talk) 13:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Will try to prevent such edits coming forward. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bunnypranav, the bot's four most recent edits ([1], [2], [3], and [4]), made two hours after the above response, appear to be cosmetic. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bunnypranav, could you please indicate which CW errors were supposed to be fixed in those four edits? Primefac (talk) 20:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC) I didn't think to look at the timestamps, striking comment/question. Primefac (talk) 12:27, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95 The edits were made on the 11th, before I found this malfunction. Above replies of mine were on the 12th. The bot has not edited a mainspace page at all on the 12th. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 01:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake; I read the date wrong. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how a "No consensus" result was in that discussion. 2vs1 for deletion should at least resulted in a relisting. Gonnym (talk) 19:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I took all three discussions into consideration, given they were all making essentially the same argument with the same replies. Primefac (talk) 19:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, one editor chose not to comment on this one, while they did on the other two. Seeing as how this is an unused sandbox that the author themselves didn't even comment, while in the other two, the author did, it seems their choice not to keep this one, was not by mistake. Gonnym (talk) 19:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A word of thanks

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... for dealing with my numerous though very similar OS requests at all hours! JayCubby 17:55, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to help. Primefac (talk) 22:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays to you and yours

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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 17:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Aww, thanks! I'll have the HoF stuff sorted hopefully this week. Primefac (talk) 17:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So much appreciated. You're the Best! Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 17:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Io Saturnalia!

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Io, Saturnalia!
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 17:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

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Please remove all of my rights permanently. Thank you! Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot permanently remove your rights, but I have removed them as requested. Primefac (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 16:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comment on Talk Discussion

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Hello :-)

May I respectfully request your comment/opinion on this Talk discussion? I would ask you directly, here, but I figured I should place it in a more public space should someone else have the same question as me. Thank you :-) MWFwiki (talk) 23:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. Primefac (talk) 07:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays!

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Thanks! Primefac (talk) 17:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Situational question

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Have a question about a situation I've run across and would like guidance. Not sure if its a "Take to AN for clarification from two accounts, report both users for possible meat or possible noncontributing behavior, or an ignore it for odd but not actionable behavior at this time" situation.

Person A created their account in November, made 6 edits to their userpage, and has since made 388 edits to Person B's sandbox. Person B (created Dec 2022) is still actively editing, made 20 or so edits to mainspace a year or two ago, but has made 5900+ edits to their own sandbox. When I asked Person A last month if there was any connection between the two accounts or that was also their account, I received no response. I have not asked Person B anything since they haven't done anything questionable other than the predominate sandbox editing.

Your, or any TPS thoughts on this situation? Thanks, happy holidays! Zinnober9 (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My immediate thoughts are that it is/was two students working on a school project. I would probably ask B what their intentions are, especially if they're not actually editing other than their userspace. Primefac (talk) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, their sandbox content didn't give me the impression of student project since it was a Big Brother reality show type of page in Spanish with contestant details and tables with elimination status by week. I've run into a fair number of student assignments here and I can typically identify those by their language, focus, and the not infrequent "In Conclusion" section. I'll ask Person B to clarify their intent and connection to Person A and see if I get any response. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays!

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A golden Wikipedia logo with stars, balloons, and the words "New Year" Happy holidays and a prosperous 2025! 17, 19
Some prime numbers for you enjoyment

Primefac, from working at TFD to ArbCom to your duties as a 'crat, you do a lot around here and it is noticed and appreciated! Thank you for finally completing the merge of {{clickable button 2}} to {{clickable button}}, thank you for all of the by-its-nature very hidden WP:OS work you do, and I have enjoyed working with you to sort out the TLTs which might need renaming. And a special shout out to making the desperately-needed move of {{pp}} to {{Protection padlock}}. Best to you and yours in 2025, and happy holidays! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mòran taing, my friend. Primefac (talk) 07:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yo Ho Ho!

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★Trekker (talk) 07:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 07:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow Up

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What up Primefac! So thankful you responded to my question a while back about switching my name on my Wiki page. Can you {{help me}} with a {{subst:Requested move ...}} for my page Rawsrvnt to now be Eddy Puyol as I’m no longer rockin under Rawsrvnt? Thanks! Rawsrvnt (talk) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Answered at User_talk:Rawsrvnt#Help_me! (and fixed wikilinks). Primefac (talk) 13:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

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Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
Thanks! Primefac (talk) 07:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays

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Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Abishe (talk) 13:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 14:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Declined history merge of Chris Koclanes/Draft:Chris Koclanes

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Hello Primefac, I noticed you declined the history merge, but now that lists me as the page creator when the creation should rightfully be attributed to @Assadzadeh. I draftified the article as it was an unreferenced BLP and then requested the cross-namespace redirect be deleted. Is there any way to fix this? WP:IAR? Svampesky (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meh... who creates an article isn't always who edits the page first, but sure, I'll go back to your R2 and delete those. Primefac (talk) 20:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My talk page reverts

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Hi! You have called me out for reverting edits on pages like Talk:Legality of conversion therapy. Although that one looks benign, it's part of a pattern of disruptive editing by 2603:7000:B500:5D4:0:0:0:0/64 which led to them being blocked for three months. Their use of talk pages does not line up well with WP:TALK. For example, see Talk:List_of_countries_by_age_at_first_marriage#Large_table_on_talk_page. Currently they are evading their three month block by using a mobile address range: 2600:1017:B800:0:0:0:0:0/40. I can stop reverting borderline talk page edits, but I thought you might like some of the context. Ttwaring (talk) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if you are reverting socking/block evasion, please make sure to use that in your edit summary; otherwise, it looks like you are simply removing talk page sections that might not be perfectly formatted. Thank you for the explanation. Primefac (talk) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. Thanks for the very quick reply! Ttwaring (talk) 14:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]