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Many thanks for your expansion here! The article has been rather pitiful, and there is still a lot to do. Is there any chance of you adding more? It's not an area I am familiar with. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 00:59, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
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: Thank you! You're absolutely right about the state of the article. Thanks for your contributions to it as well. I plan on adding more to the article eventually, but not at the moment. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 04:35, 19 July 2017 (UTC)


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== Question regarding title on the kings ==
Sorry about that. This is indeed part of a quote. [[Special:Contributions/85.193.218.178|85.193.218.178]] ([[User talk:85.193.218.178|talk]]) 16:43, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
:No need to apologize. Cheers! [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 18:11, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


I will write this guessing you can read Korean. 왕의 이름을 넣을 때 고려, 조선에서는 중국 왕조처럼 태조, 태종, 세종과 같이 묘효 (temple name) 을 일반적인 명칭으로 사용하나 고구려, 백제는 다른데, 이럴 경우 후대 (고려시절로 추정되는) 만들어진 명칭을 사용하는 것이 옳다고 봅니까? 아니면 최대한 당시 (고구려 시절) 사용된 명칭을 사용해야 한다고 봅니까? 묘효를 따를 경우 동명성왕이 맞고, 역사적 배경과 실재 고구려에 사용된 표기는 추모, 추모왕, 추모성왕인데, 어떤 쪽으로 하는 것이 맞다고 생각하시나요? 더불어 고구려는 중국이 자칭 문명의 중심 (중화) 라는 걸 인정하지도 않은 국가라서 중국 식으로 묘효를 따를 필요가 있는지도 의문이고요. What's the Wikipedia rule on naming the king? Do you know any? [[User:Kadrun|Kadrun]] ([[User talk:Kadrun|talk]]) 06:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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: Hi Kadrun. Please see [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility)]]. I think the key point is "most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English". [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 21:24, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

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I am here to ask you for some help. In fact, I'm asking the same thing to several other administrators about the same matter at hand.
About four months ago, the article [[Goguryeo]] has been protected due to vandalism, disruptive editing, and edit warring. After a couple of weeks after the protection was broken, two new editors started to vandalize the same article.
To introduce you to the situation: they edited out the statements to misrepresent the cited sources, multiple credited sources were entirely removed, and original research has been included to substitute the removal.
The two editor(s) in question are: [[User:Zanhe]] and [[User:Koraskadi]]
I have been reverting the article back to the last editorial completed by [[User:Failosopher]] since the breakout of the situation.


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1- "Goguryeo (고구려; 高句麗; [ko.ɡu.ɾjʌ], 37 BCE–668 CE), also called Goryeo (고려; 高麗; [ko.ɾjʌ]), was a '''Korean''' kingdom[4][5][6]"
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== Religion in korea ==
The two editors mentioned above are constantly removing the bolded word; which goes against these three supporting articles cited.
"Koguryo". Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved October 15, 2013.
States that Goguryeo as one of the three Kingdoms of Korea
Byeon, Tae-seop (1999) 韓國史通論 (Outline of Korean history), 4th ed, Unknown Publisher, ISBN 89-445-9101-6.
Emphasizes Goguryeo as one of the most powerful Korean State that arose throughout history
"Complex of Koguryo Tombs". UNESCO World Heritage Centre. Retrieved 2013-10-24.
The current article simply talks about its geographical location. However, the article stated that Goguryeo was Korean when it was retrieved.


Why you change my revision? Actually No religion in Korean mean non formal religion. And other religion like Protestanism, Buddhism and Catholicsm is formal religion. I mean 56,1% Korean people is non formal religion and practical Korean belief like Korean Buddhism, Confucianism and Korean Shamanism. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 03:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
2- "Goguryeo has been described as an '''empire''' by many scholars", "Goguryeo was a powerful empire and one of the great powers in East Asia"


"No religion" in korean is not enough for describe mean Korean religion. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 04:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Phrases in relation to the bolded word are getting removed alongside their supporting citations. This is a completely clear example of vandalism.
신형식 (2003). 高句麗史. Ewha Womans University Press. p. 56. ISBN 9788973005284. Retrieved 12 September 2017.


: No, "no religion" means no religion.[https://kosis.kr/statHtml/statHtml.do?orgId=101&tblId=DT_1PM1502][https://translate.google.com/?sl=ko&tl=en&text=%EC%A2%85%EA%B5%90%EC%97%86%EC%9D%8C&op=translate] [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 04:43, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
이덕일; 박찬규 (2007). 고구려 는 천자 의 제국 이었다. 역사의아침. ISBN 9788995884973. Retrieved 12 September 2017.


They re still practical Korean religion culture even they re not formal organization. Then how you explain, Korean funeral for "no religion" ? Korean Buddhism, Confucianism, and Shamanism don't need formal istitution. That what i said Korean folk religion same as like in china and vietnam. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 06:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Roberts, John Morris; Westad, Odd Arne. The History of the World. Oxford University Press. p. 443. ISBN 9780199936762. Retrieved 15 July 2016.


: Please [[WP:PROVEIT|prove it]]. Thank you. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 06:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Gardner, Hall. Averting Global War: Regional Challenges, Overextension, and Options for American Strategy. Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 158–159. ISBN 9780230608733. Retrieved 15 July 2016.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_South_Korea please read more this article. Only 12% people in Korean that said they re atheist. Someone muat change and explain more detail about no religion in south Korea. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 07:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Laet, Sigfried J. de. History of Humanity: From the seventh to the sixteenth century. UNESCO. p. 1133. ISBN 9789231028137. Retrieved 10 October 2016.


: Please read [[WP:UGC]]. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 08:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
Walker, Hugh Dyson. East Asia: A New History. AuthorHouse. pp. 6–7. ISBN 9781477265178. Retrieved 20 November 2016
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All these sources explicitly describe Goguryeo as an empire or have been described to have developed into an empire. In fact, the main thesis of the first two articles is about Goguryeo being an Empire. The same sources also state that Goguryeo is Korean, but they were not cited for the quality mentioned above for the current editorial.
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The editorial that I have been reverting back into was the protected version; which was constructed by a series of discussions and debates with various editors and administrators including us. Something has to be done about the vandalists or the article in question. For the greater good, I ask you for your help once again, but I will decrease the burden by asking many others. Thank you. [[User:Wandrative|Wandrative]] ([[User talk:Wandrative|talk]]) 17:49, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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The Korean "clan"s didn't came from other country. Only "people" and "surname"s came from other country. Thanks. --[[User:Garam|Garam]] ([[User talk:Garam|talk]]) 11:23, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

:Go ahead. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 09:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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Hey,
Why did you make this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3AJoseon_caste_system&oldid=prev&diff=1189305733] revert? The bullet points on the last two seem out of place—[[user:blindlynx|blindlynx]] 01:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

:''Cheonmin'' encompassed ''nobi'' and ''baekjeong''. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 04:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::that is in no way made clear with the bullets. consier:

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:{{Reply to|Garam}} I see what you mean. Personally, I think that "Korean-language ''clan names'' of Chinese origin" (or "Korean clan names of Chinese origin") would be more suitable and accurate, because ''bon-gwan'' are clan names, not surnames. I'm too busy these days to edit much or keep up with what's going on, so by all means, please feel free to edit these articles as you please. Cheers! [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 20:34, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
::Then, I suggest you create new category "Korean clans based in China" (it comes from [[:Category:Lists of clans based in Korea]]) under this category. Thanks. --[[User:Garam|Garam]] ([[User talk:Garam|talk]]) 06:05, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
:::{{Reply to|Garam}} They're not ''based in'' China though. I think you might have a slight misunderstanding of what "based in" means. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 07:42, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
:::: Well, some Korean surname is still based in China region, such as [[:Category:Clans based in Shandong]], [[:Category:Clans based in Jiangsu]] , and [[:Category:Clans based in Guangzhou]]. Thanks. --[[User:Garam|Garam]] ([[User talk:Garam|talk]]) 07:50, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::{{Reply to|Garam}} True, but the vast majority are based in Korea. I think the main disagreement between us is whether a ''bon-gwan'' is a "clan name" or a "surname". "Gong clan of Qufu" is a clan name. "Gong" is a surname. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 08:01, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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*Surname (e.g. Korean-language surnames of Chinese origin)
  *Bon'gwan (e.g. Gong clan of Qufu‎)
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::::::First, do you agree with this category type? And how do you think about reusing the existing category name "Korean clans of Chinese origin"? In other words, this is means, similar to [[WP:ROBIN]],
:::::#Move [[:Category:Korean clans of Chinese origin]] → [[:Category:Korean-language surnames of Chinese origin]]; without leaving a redirect behind
:::::#Create new [[:Category:Korean clans of Chinese origin]]
:::::: Thanks. --[[User:Garam|Garam]] ([[User talk:Garam|talk]]) 08:38, 24 February 2018 (UTC)


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{{Reply to|Garam}} Oh, I see what you mean now. I was confused because I wasn't aware of the original state of [[:Category:Korean-language surnames of Chinese origin]] before a user added clan names to it, and that was why I moved it to [[:Category:Korean clans of Chinese origin]]. I realize now that [[:Category:Korean-language surnames of Chinese origin]] originally only had actual surnames such as "Namgung" and "Zhuge", and no clan names. I am very sorry for the misunderstanding. Please go ahead with your plan. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 09:16, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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: Please see the categories now. Are you agree with it? Thanks. --[[User:Garam|Garam]] ([[User talk:Garam|talk]]) 09:54, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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::{{Reply to|Garam}} Yes. Looks good to me. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 09:59, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

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I will write this guessing you can read Korean. 왕의 이름을 넣을 때 고려, 조선에서는 중국 왕조처럼 태조, 태종, 세종과 같이 묘효 (temple name) 을 일반적인 명칭으로 사용하나 고구려, 백제는 다른데, 이럴 경우 후대 (고려시절로 추정되는) 만들어진 명칭을 사용하는 것이 옳다고 봅니까? 아니면 최대한 당시 (고구려 시절) 사용된 명칭을 사용해야 한다고 봅니까? 묘효를 따를 경우 동명성왕이 맞고, 역사적 배경과 실재 고구려에 사용된 표기는 추모, 추모왕, 추모성왕인데, 어떤 쪽으로 하는 것이 맞다고 생각하시나요? 더불어 고구려는 중국이 자칭 문명의 중심 (중화) 라는 걸 인정하지도 않은 국가라서 중국 식으로 묘효를 따를 필요가 있는지도 의문이고요. What's the Wikipedia rule on naming the king? Do you know any? Kadrun (talk) 06:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here's evidence that the highest title Chumo had during the time of Goguryeo was the Holy.[1][2]

Hi Kadrun. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility). I think the key point is "most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English". Bamnamu (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Religion in korea

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Why you change my revision? Actually No religion in Korean mean non formal religion. And other religion like Protestanism, Buddhism and Catholicsm is formal religion. I mean 56,1% Korean people is non formal religion and practical Korean belief like Korean Buddhism, Confucianism and Korean Shamanism. Cahyand (talk) 03:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"No religion" in korean is not enough for describe mean Korean religion. Cahyand (talk) 04:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, "no religion" means no religion.[1][2] Bamnamu (talk) 04:43, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They re still practical Korean religion culture even they re not formal organization. Then how you explain, Korean funeral for "no religion" ? Korean Buddhism, Confucianism, and Shamanism don't need formal istitution. That what i said Korean folk religion same as like in china and vietnam. Cahyand (talk) 06:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please prove it. Thank you. Bamnamu (talk) 06:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_South_Korea please read more this article. Only 12% people in Korean that said they re atheist. Someone muat change and explain more detail about no religion in south Korea. Cahyand (talk) 07:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:UGC. Bamnamu (talk) 08:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Go ahead. Bamnamu (talk) 09:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Joseon caste system

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Hey, Why did you make this [3] revert? The bullet points on the last two seem out of place—blindlynx 01:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cheonmin encompassed nobi and baekjeong. Bamnamu (talk) 04:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
that is in no way made clear with the bullets. consier:
Joseon caste system
Class Hangul Hanja Meaning
Yangban 양반 兩班 two classes of rulers
Jungin 중인 中人 middle people
Sangmin 상민 常民 commoners
Cheonmin 천민 賤民 lowborn
Baekjeong 백정 白丁 untouchables
Nobi 노비 奴婢 slaves (or "serfs")

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