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== Proposed merge of [[Biophysical environment]] into [[Natural environment]] ==
==Name change==
Change name to "Natural environment (Earth)" and resolve the merge dispute.
[[User:Ccoatsworth|Ccoatsworth]] ([[User talk:Ccoatsworth|talk]]) 04:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
==Merge [[nature]] and [[natural environment]]==
(Similarities came up at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Nature.2Fenvironment.2Fbiotope]) The content and coverage seem very similar - I can't see any reason to have two articles. No suggestion as to what is the best title.[[Special:Contributions/87.102.43.94|87.102.43.94]] ([[User talk:87.102.43.94|talk]]) 15:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Agree - very similar content. [[User:JascalX|JascalX]] ([[User talk:JascalX|talk]]) 23:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

==Don't merge [[nature]] and [[natural environment]] articles==
[[Special:Contributions/96.41.164.58|96.41.164.58]] ([[User talk:96.41.164.58|talk]]) 07:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
The term "Nature" includes outer space, other planets, the solar system, other solar systems, the universe, physics etc. The term "Natural environment" is generally used to describe the environment of the planet [[Earth]].
:Do you have any citation or reference to support this? /[[User:Natox|Natox]] ([[User talk:Natox|talk]]) 18:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
::I am about to remove the merge proposal template. It's been seven weeks now. For further reasoning, pleas see recent thread at [[Talk:Nature]]. Thanks. ... [[User:Kenosis|Kenosis]] ([[User talk:Kenosis|talk]]) 05:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

...D.G.DeL-Dorchester Mass Environment[[User:D.G.DeL-Dorchester Mass|David George DeLancey]] ([[User talk:D.G.DeL-Dorchester Mass|talk]]) 13:29, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

==Definition, again==

I see that this discussion page reflects lack of satisfaction with definition since at least 2005, but I still find it is not satisfactory yet. As a reflection I propose to compare '''natural environment''' with '''ecosystem''', and try to establish the differences between them. I also propose a quotation from [[Donald Symons]]: "An environment is not really natural or unnatural, but rather each of its aspects varies along a continuum of naturalness.
"--[[User:Auró|Auró]] ([[User talk:Auró|talk]]) 22:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

:: Natural environment being a sub classification of environment, the first consideration should be to examine the environment definition. I have done it, and found that it can be improved. Since it is not logical to discuss about the [[environment (biophysical)]] article from here, I close this talk, and will start a new one there.--[[User:Auró|Auró]] ([[User talk:Auró|talk]]) 11:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

== Environment ==

Environment is the that affects especially the circumstances and conditions of life of people or society as a whole. The totality of the natural, social and cultural values of a place and a particular time, that influences human life and future generations. That is, it is not just the space in which life unfolds but also covers living things, objects, water, soil, air and the relationships between them. The World Environment Day is celebrated on June 5. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/190.242.127.218|190.242.127.218]] ([[User talk:190.242.127.218|talk]]) 19:35, 24 October 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:There is a [[wikipedia:disambiguation|desambiguation page]] for [[environment]], containing the different meanings that the word can have, and linking to the pertinent pages.--[[User:Auró|Auró]] ([[User talk:Auró|talk]]) 21:04, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

== Swiss Alps ==

Re the caption to the image of [[Bachalpsee]] in the [[Swiss Alps]]. I checked (googled) and found that this area is farmed meadow land ([[Alpine pasture|summer pasture]]) for cows, and maybe other animals. [[User:Rwood128|Rwood128]] ([[User talk:Rwood128|talk]]) 23:59, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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Widely overlapping concepts, even similar definitions:
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
*"A biophysical environment is a biotic and abiotic surrounding of an organism or population"
*"The natural environment encompasses all living and non-living things occurring naturally"
Where both "biotic" and "living" are linked to [[Life]]. [[User:Fgnievinski|fgnievinski]] ([[User talk:Fgnievinski|talk]]) 04:00, 1 June 2023 (UTC) [[User:Fgnievinski|fgnievinski]]
:I've completed the merge, but there was almost nothing there of value. Little was referenced; what was reference wasn't supported by the references, or was off topic (''related topics'' section). {{merge done}} [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 21:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


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Reading the introductory section, the text at the end of the last paragraph is cut off, missing, or otherwise incomplete. (There isn't even punctuation.) It's some sort of sentence about soil comparisons, but can't tell more beyond that:
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"If, for instance, in an agricultural field, the [[Mineralogy|mineralogic composition]] and the [[Soil structure|structure]] of its soil are similar to those of an undisturbed forest soil, but the structure is quite different and more different" [[User:Hollyfeld|Hollyfeld]] ([[User talk:Hollyfeld|talk]]) 00:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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:The problem seemed to have been the unexplained addition of the final three words at some stage. I have removed them. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 05:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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Proposed merge of Biophysical environment into Natural environment

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Widely overlapping concepts, even similar definitions:

  • "A biophysical environment is a biotic and abiotic surrounding of an organism or population"
  • "The natural environment encompasses all living and non-living things occurring naturally"

Where both "biotic" and "living" are linked to Life. fgnievinski (talk) 04:00, 1 June 2023 (UTC) fgnievinski[reply]

I've completed the merge, but there was almost nothing there of value. Little was referenced; what was reference wasn't supported by the references, or was off topic (related topics section).   checkY Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 21:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Introductory section unfinished

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Reading the introductory section, the text at the end of the last paragraph is cut off, missing, or otherwise incomplete. (There isn't even punctuation.) It's some sort of sentence about soil comparisons, but can't tell more beyond that:

"If, for instance, in an agricultural field, the mineralogic composition and the structure of its soil are similar to those of an undisturbed forest soil, but the structure is quite different and more different" Hollyfeld (talk) 00:12, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem seemed to have been the unexplained addition of the final three words at some stage. I have removed them. HiLo48 (talk) 05:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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