Talk:Total Beverage: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Latest revision as of 08:49, 11 July 2023

This article was nominated for deletion on 2006 June 6. The result of the discussion was merge and redirect to Total Wine & More.

Request edit

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

I was hoping Wikipedia would have information about Total Beverage in Colorado, one of the biggest liquor stores in this state (link https://www.totalbev.com/). However, the total Beverage page just redirects to an east coast company. I don't think this is right? At minimum, the page should not redirect to another (unrelated) company. COBeerFan (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There was an article for Total Beverage about 12 years ago. But as the discussion below shows, a decision was taken at WP:AFD to delete the page and subsume its contents into another article, the one that this redirect now goes to. It is unclear whether these are two separate companies. This will have to be looked into. spintendo 23:44, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merge and redirect to Total Wine & More. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Total Beverage

Not notable company, does not meet WP:Corp, the only reason I have heard of it is because I used to live in Maryland. MilesToGo 01:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It's a real store. If this were a store in the Star Trek universe, it would be speedily kept. Let's keep this if only to help prevent fiction from becoming more important than reality in Wikipedia. Erik the Rude 03:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Total Wine & More. Company does no exist anymore so a merge rather than keep. - Peripitus (Talk) 04:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Peripitus. JIP | Talk 08:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Total Wine & More, defunct companies are not exactly notable in its own article, unless they were a multinational corporation. --Ter e nc e Ong 14:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per above. —M e ts501^talk 17:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect per above. savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 17:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Follow up to request

According to this diff the Total Beverage company (TB) was acquired by Total Wine and More (TWM) in 1998. This in turn led to the article being merged and this redirect page being created. This rests on the supposition that there was only one TB – the one in Maryland. But there may have been two TB's, one in Maryland (TB-MD) and one in Colorado (TB-CO). If this is true, there are two possibilities:

TB's Wikipedia page in 2006 was for TB-MD, and it was merged with TWM when that company purchased TB-MD.
TB's Wikipedia page was for TB-CO, and editors who agreed to the merge at the time were unaware of this, inadvertently merging TB-CO with TWM.

In any event, the article now is not TB-CO. Were TB-CO to have a Wikipedia page in the future, I believe that there would be grounds for deleting the redirect and letting TB-CO have the TB name. spintendo 01:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
 {{oldafdfull|date=2006 June 6|result='''merge and redirect to [[Total Wine & More]]'''|page=Total_Beverage}}
-== {{request edit}} ==
+==Request edit==
+{{edit COI|A}}
 I was hoping Wikipedia would have information about Total Beverage in Colorado, one of the biggest liquor stores in this state (link https://www.totalbev.com/). However, the total Beverage page just redirects to an east coast company. I don't think this is right? At minimum, the page should not redirect to another (unrelated) company. [[User:COBeerFan|COBeerFan]] ([[User talk:COBeerFan|talk]]) 19:46, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
+:There was an article for ''Total Beverage'' about 12 years ago. But as the discussion below shows, a decision was taken at [[WP:AFD]] to delete the page and subsume its contents into another article, the one that this redirect now goes to. It is unclear whether these are two separate companies. This will have to be looked into.  '''<span style="font-size:75%;border:3px solid red;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;font-variant:small-caps">&nbsp;spintendo&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 23:44, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
+<div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background-color: #F3F9FF; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
+:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span>  Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).  No further edits should be made to this page.  ''
+<!--Template:Afd top
+Note:  If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to re-nominate an article for deletion, you must manually edit the AfD nomination links in order to create a new discussion page using the name format of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PAGENAME (2nd nomination)]].  When you create the new discussion page, please provide a link to this old discussion in your nomination. -->
+The result of the debate was '''merge and redirect''' to [[Total Wine & More]]. [[User:King of Hearts|King of]] [[User:King of Hearts|<span style="color:red;">&hearts;</span>]] [[User talk:King of Hearts|<span style="color:red;">&diams;</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/King of Hearts|<span style="color:black;">&clubs;</span>]] [[Special:Emailuser/King of Hearts|<span style="color:black;">&spades;</span>]] 04:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
+===[[Total Beverage]]===
+Not notable company, does not meet [[WP:Corp]], the only reason I have heard of it is because I used to live in Maryland. [[User:MilesToGo|MilesToGo]] 01:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Keep.'''  It's a real store.  If this were a store in the Star Trek universe, it would be speedily kept.  Let's keep this if only to help prevent fiction from becoming more important than reality in Wikipedia. [[User:Erik the Rude|Erik the Rude]] 03:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' to [[Total Wine & More]]. Company does no exist anymore so a merge rather than keep. - [[User:Peripitus |Peripitus]] [[User talk:Peripitus|(Talk)]] 04:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' per Peripitus. [[User:JIP|<span style="color:#CC0000;">J</span><span style="color:#00CC00;">I</span><span style="color:#0000CC;">P</span>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 08:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' to [[Total Wine & More]], defunct companies are not exactly notable in its own article, unless they were a multinational corporation. --[[User:Terence Ong|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terence Ong|nc]][[User talk:Terence Ong|e Ong]] 14:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Merge''' per above. &mdash;'''[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">''e''</span>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]'''<small><sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]</sup></small> 17:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+*'''Merge and redirect''' per above. [[User:Savidan|savidan]]<sup>[[User_talk:Savidan|(talk)]] [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">(e@)</span>]]</sup> 17:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
+:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.  <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.'' <!--Template:Afd bottom--></div>
+===Follow up to request===
+According to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Total_Wine_%26_More&diff=next&oldid=58042669&diffmode=source this diff] the ''Total Beverage'' company (TB) was acquired by ''Total Wine and More'' (TWM) in 1998. This in turn led to the article being merged and this redirect page being created. This rests on the supposition that there was only one TB – the one in Maryland. But there may have been ''two'' TB's, one in Maryland (TB-MD) and one in Colorado (TB-CO). If this is true, there are two possibilities:
+# TB's Wikipedia page in 2006 was for TB-MD, and it was merged with TWM when that company purchased TB-MD.
+# TB's Wikipedia page was for TB-CO, and editors who agreed to the merge at the time were unaware of this, inadvertently merging TB-CO with TWM.
+In any event, the article now is not TB-CO. Were TB-CO to have a Wikipedia page in the future, I believe that there would be grounds for deleting the redirect and letting TB-CO have the TB name.  '''<span style="font-size:75%;border:3px solid red;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;font-variant:small-caps">&nbsp;spintendo&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 01:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)