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The result of the discussion was: '''delete'''. —&thinsp;[[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]]&thinsp;<small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 09:01, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete.''' Unmaintained portals with blank subpages are just... <br />(•_•) <br /> ( •_•)>⌐■-■ <br /> (⌐■_■) ''Unethical.'' <br /> &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[WP:WikiProject Connecticut|☖]]</sup></span> 13:22, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' Unmaintained portals with blank subpages are just... <br />(•_•) <br /> ( •_•)>⌐■-■ <br /> (⌐■_■) ''Unethical.'' <br /> &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[WP:WikiProject Connecticut|☖]]</sup></span> 13:22, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
:* {{ping|MJL}} '''''YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!''''' <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 18:18, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
:* {{ping|MJL}} '''''YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!''''' <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 18:18, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - This portal has 24 daily pageviews, as opposed to 2865 for the parent article, but the portal isn't maintained. Responding to [[User:MJL]], copyright violation is a breach of scholarly ethics. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:44, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - This portal has 24 daily pageviews, as opposed to 2865 for the parent article, but the portal isn't maintained. Responding to [[User:MJL]], copyright violation is a breach of scholarly ethics. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:44, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - Abandoned draft of a portal, 62 [[Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Ethics| subpages]], created 2007-08-08 23:44:47 by [[User:Gregbard]]. Never went alive. Nothing to keep. Don't lure the readers with a set of blank pages. Portal:Ethics. [[User:Pldx1|Pldx1]] ([[User talk:Pldx1|talk]]) 13:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 09:01, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Ethics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Mini-portal abandoned since 2009. Redundant to head article Ethics and navbox Template:Ethics.

Created[1] in August 2007‎ by Gregbard (talk · contribs), who has been blocked since 2014 for copyvios.[2] The lead of WP:POG has said since late 2006 "Do not create a portal if you do not intend to assist in its regular maintenance", but that has not happened here. The portal has been abandoned since its creator added sub-pages in 2009.

Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Ethics show lots of sub-pages, but most of them are balnk, and have been since creation:

Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article head article Ethics and navbox Template:Ethics.

Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).

  1. mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it by right-clicking on this link to Template:Ethics, open in a private/incognito tab, and mouseover any link.
  2. automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it by right-clicking on this link to the article Ethics, open in a private/incognito tab, and click on any image to start the slideshow.

Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.

Maybe someday someone will build and maintain a portal which actually adds value for readers. But if so, they will do better to start afresh, rather than building on these 10-year-old content forks.

So I propose that this portal and its sub-pages be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:51, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.