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|designer = [[Sandy Douglass]] |
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|location = [[United States]] |
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|year = 1945 |
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|no built = 4,000 |
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|builder = [[Douglass & McLeod]]<br>[[Clark Boat Company]]<br>[[W. D. Schock Corp]]<br>[[Northwest One Design]]<br>[[Great Midwest Yacht Company]] |
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|draft = {{convert|4.50|ft|m|abbr=on}} with the [[centreboard]] down |
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|displacement = {{convert|515|lb|kg|0|abbr=on}} |
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|hull type = [[Monohull]] |
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|construction = [[Fiberglass]] |
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|sailplan = [[Fractional rig]]ged [[sloop]] [[Masthead sloop]] |
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The '''Thistle''' is a high-performance [[One-Design|one-design]] [[Dinghy racing|racing dinghy]], also used for [[Dinghy sailing|day sailing]], popular in the [[United States]]. The Thistle was designed by [[Gordon K. (Sandy) Douglass]] who later designed the [[Highlander (dinghy)|Highlander]] and [[Flying Scot (dinghy)|Flying Scot]]. (These names commemorate Douglass’s [[Scotland|Scots]] heritage.) Starting in 1945, 4040+ boats have now been built. Their construction originally used molded [[plywood]]. The builders started using [[Glass-reinforced plastic|Glass-reinforced polyester]] or "fibreglass" in the late 1950s. The current hull configuration uses a glass-reinforced polyester molded boat with wooden rails, centre board trunk, thwart, fore grating, and [[aft]] grating. The [[spars]] were once made from spruce, but are now of entirely [[extrusion|extruded]] aluminum construction. |
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The '''Thistle''' is an American [[Planing (boat)|planing]] [[sailing dinghy]] that was designed by [[Sandy Douglass]] as a [[one-design]] [[Sailing (sport)|racer]] and first built in 1945.<ref name="Data">{{cite web|url= https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/thistle|title= Thistle sailboat |access-date= 2 October 2020|last= McArthur| first= Bruce |work= sailboatdata.com|year= 2020|archive-url= https://archive.today/20201002224254/https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/thistle|archive-date= 2 October 2020 |url-status= live}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url= https://sailboatdata.com/designer/douglass-gordon-k-sandy|title= Gordon K. (Sandy) Douglass 1904 - 1992 |access-date= 2 October 2020|last= McArthur| first= Bruce |work= sailboatdata.com|year= 2020|archive-url= https://archive.today/20201003145531/https://sailboatdata.com/designer/douglass-gordon-k-sandy|archive-date= 3 October 2020 |url-status= live}}</ref><ref name="Sherwood">Sherwood, Richard M.: ''A Field Guide to Sailboats of North America, Second Edition'', pages 84-85. [[Houghton Mifflin Company]], 1994. {{ISBN|0-395-65239-1}}</ref> |
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The Thistle Class Association,[http://www.ThistleClass.com] with fleets across the United States, holds local, regional, and national regattas throughout the year. All Thistles are built to the same lines by authorized builders. Class rules limit innovations in rigging, restrict sail purchases, and prohibit electronic navigation gear. Old and new boats are evenly matched, with the owner of Thistle number 1 winning the national championship in 1990. Newer fibreglass hulls tend to "soften" over a period of 20 years, depending on use. "Softer" boats are still fast, but not competitive at the very highest level. |
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==Production== |
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Thistle hulls are relatively light for their size; they have no decking or spray protection, which saves weight. The sail plan is large for a boat of this size, consisting of a [[bermuda rig|marconi rig]] with a [[mainsail|main]], [[jib]], and symmetrical [[spinnaker]]. The sail plan is larger for the boat’s weight than in many other dinghies, which makes Thistles perform extremely well in light wind. Their hulls have wide, rounded bottoms, allowing the boats to [[planing (sailing)|plane]] in winds as low as {{convert|10|kn|mph km/h}}. It is not uncommon to see Thistles efficiently making their way, while other dinghys of similar design are becalmed. |
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The design was originally built by [[Douglass & McLeod]] in the [[United States]], but the company went out of business in 1971. Since then production has passed to several American builders, including the [[Clark Boat Company]], [[W. D. Schock Corp]], [[Northwest One Design]] and the current builder since 1975, [[Great Midwest Yacht Company]]. More than 4,000 boats of this design have been completed.<ref name="Data"/><ref name="Sherwood"/><ref>{{cite web|url= https://sailboatdata.com/builder/douglass-mcleod|title= Douglass & McLeod|access-date= 2 October 2020|last= McArthur| first= Bruce |work= sailboatdata.com|year= 2020|archive-url= https://archive.today/20201002224410/https://sailboatdata.com/builder/douglass-mcleod|archive-date= 2 October 2020 |url-status= live}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url= https://sailboatdata.com/builder/clark-boat-company|title= Clark Boat Company|access-date= 2 October 2020|last= McArthur| first= Bruce |work= sailboatdata.com|year= 2020|archive-url= https://archive.today/20201002224359/https://sailboatdata.com/builder/clark-boat-company|archive-date= 2 October 2020 |url-status= live}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url= https://sailboatdata.com/builder/schock-wd|title= Schock W.D.|access-date= 2 October 2020|last= McArthur| first= Bruce |work= sailboatdata.com|year= 2020|archive-url= https://archive.today/20200718211515/https://sailboatdata.com/builder/schock-wd|archive-date= 18 July 2020 |url-status= live}}</ref><ref name="Official">{{cite web|url= http://www.nowwebsites.net/|title= Great Midwest Yacht Designs|access-date= 2 October 2020|author= Great Midwest Yacht Company |work= nowwebsites.net|archive-url= https://archive.today/20201002225126/http://www.nowwebsites.net/|archive-date= 2 October 2020|url-status= live}}</ref> |
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W. D. Schock Corp records indicate that they built 250 boats between 1959 and 1975.<ref name="Prod">{{cite web|url= http://wdschock.com/history/boatlist.htm|title= Boats built by W.D. Schock|access-date= 9 August 2022|author= W. D. Schock Corp|author-link= W. D. Schock Corp|work= wdschock.com|archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20100221183356/http://wdschock.com/history/boatlist.htm|archive-date= 21 February 2010|url-status= dead}}</ref> |
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Thistles are generally raced with a three-person crew: a skipper, a middle, and a forward person. The optimal total crew weight is generally {{convert|450|to|480|lb}} depending on wind. The crew weight, however, is generally not the deciding factor in determining the outcome of the races. In fact, class rules do not limit crew weight. In all but the strongest winds, an experienced two-person crew can manage the boat. [[hiking (sailing)|Hiking]] straps are permitted for either droop or straight leg hiking, but a [[Trapeze (sailing)|trapeze]] is not. The class is generally family friendly, though experienced sailors will still be challenged at the higher levels of competition. |
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==Design== |
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The Thistle is used as the baseline for the U.S. version of the [[Portsmouth yardstick]] system for handicapping small boats in mixed-class fleets. |
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The Thistle is a recreational [[sailboat]], with the earlier production models made from molded [[plywood]] and the more recent models built predominantly of [[fiberglass]], with wood structural members and trim. The seats are a fiberglass-sandwich construction, and provide built-in flotation. It has a [[Fractional rig|fractional]] [[sloop]] rig with [[aluminum]] spars and three spreader bars. The hull has no decks, a [[plumb stem]] and [[Transom (nautical)|transom]], a transom-hung [[rudder]] controlled by a [[tiller]] and a retractable, drum-mounted [[centerboard]]. It displaces {{convert|515|lb|kg|0|abbr=on}}.<ref name="Data"/><ref name="Sherwood"/> |
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The boat has a [[Draft (hull)|draft]] of {{convert|4.50|ft|m|abbr=on}} with the centerboard extended and {{convert|6|in|cm|abbr=on}} with it retracted, allowing [[Beaching (nautical)|beaching]] or ground transportation on a [[Boat trailer|trailer]].<ref name="Data"/> |
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=== National Championships ===<ref>http://www.thistleclass.com/home/media-resources/official-documents/nationals-trophies-list</ref> |
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For sailing the design is equipped with symmetrical [[spinnaker]] of {{convert|220|sqft|m2|abbr=on}} and built-in flotation.<ref name="Sherwood"/> |
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The design has a [[Portsmouth Yardstick]] racing average handicap of 83.0 and is normally raced with a crew of three [[sailor]]s, although it has a capacity of six people.<ref name="Sherwood"/> |
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! Year !! Carron 1st !! Seneca Bowl 2nd !! Fairhope 3rd !! St Pete Trophy 4th !! Richmond 5th |
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==Operational history== |
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| 1946 || Gordon Douglass || || || || |
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By 1994 the design was being raced in more than 150 fleets.<ref name="Sherwood"/> |
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| 1947 || J. Lovett || || || || |
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In a 1994 review Richard Sherwood wrote, "the Thistle was influenced by English dinghy design and is similar to the International 14, another racing dinghy with a plumb bow and flat run. Originally, boats were of molded wood. Racing crew is three, but the Thistle will carry six. She will fit into a garage. The Thistle has a lot of sail and a lot of speed. Class rules are strict. Gear that may be technically legal but provides an advantage is not allowed ... The Thistle is the boat used as the primary yardstick for Portsmouth Numbers."<ref name="Sherwood"/> |
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| 1948 || Gordon Douglass || || || || |
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===Racing=== |
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{{Main|List of Thistle (dinghy) championships}} |
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| 1949 || W. Lawson || || || || |
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| 1950 || F. Marquardt|| || || || |
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*[[List of sailing boat types]] |
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| 1951 || Gordon Douglass || || || || |
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'''Similar sailboats''' |
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*[[International 14]] |
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| 1952 || J. Hendricksen || || || || |
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| 1954 || H. Boston || || || || |
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| 1955 || Gordon Douglass || || || || |
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| 1957 || J. Hendricksen || Samuel Merrick || || || |
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| 1958 || J. Jennings || Howard W. Mead || || || |
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| 1959 || J. Jenkins || J. Jennings || Charles Morgan || W.D. Mangold || |
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| 1960 || Bruce Goldsmith || Howard L. Boston || Jerry Jenkins || Ed Walsh || |
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| 1961 || Ed Walsh || Bruce Goldsmith || James Hendricksen || John Proctor || |
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| 1962 || P. Bordes || A. Walter Stubner || James Miller || Elmer Richards || Lee Sutton 510 |
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| 1963 || E. Walsh || Jack Wanenmacher || Dennis Posey || Bob Duff || Jon Carriel 821 |
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| 1964 || P. Bordes || Jon Carriel || Dennis Posey || Walt Stubner || Bruno Markeliunas 1234 |
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| 1965 || P. Bordes || Dennis Posey || Nils Dailey || Jim Fairclough || John Proctor 1222 |
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| 1966 || W. Stubner || Tom Wilson || Charles Wiley || P. Bordes || Nils Dailey 1399 |
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| 1967 || P. Bordes || Bill Alexander || Tom Wilson || William Poole || Ed Fracker 1109 |
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| 1968 || D. Clark || Ed Fracker || Tom Wilson || William Alexander || Chuck Steigerwald 1619 |
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| 1969 || J. Miller || Bob White || Lewis Wake || Ned Lockwood || Dennis Clark |
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| 1970 || K. Foster || Dennis Clark || Charles Steigerwald || Bob White || Charlie Pollak 1708 |
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| 1971 || R. Meissner || James Miller || Ted Fontelieu || Charlie Pollak || Gene Wood 3003 |
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| 1972 || Charles Steigerwald || Bob White || Dennis Clark || Rod Glover || Fuller Moore 3152 |
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| 1973 || J. Foster || Christopher Pollak || Mark Gilliland || James Miller || Ron Meissner 3170 |
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| 1974 || T. Dykstra || Ron Rostofer || Chris Pollak || Fuller Moore || Steve Klotz 1 |
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| 1975 || T. Dykstra || Cliff Seigh || Walt Stubner || Ron Rostorfer || Jerry Pignolet 2830 |
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| 1976 || Mark Gilliland || Larry Klein || Andy Barnes || Jack Bauer || Bob White 124 |
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| 1977 || Rorbert White || Mark Gilliland || Jack Bauer || Jim Moyer || Dave Ullman 3485 |
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| 1978 || Andy Barnes || Champ Clover || Mark Gilliland || Jack F. Bauer || Mark Laura |
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| 1979 || Christopher Pollak || Brent Barbehenn || Greg Fisher || Example || Example |
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| 1980 || Dave Ullman || Example || Greg Fisher || Example || Example |
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| 1981 || Christopher Pollak|| Andy Fox || Brent Barbehenn || Example || Example |
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| 1982 || Brent Barbehenn || Andy Fox || Example || Example || Greg Fisher |
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| 1983 || Greg Fisher || Example || Example || Brent Barbehenn || Example |
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| 1984 || Brent Barbehenn || Greg Fisher || Example || Example || Example |
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| 1985 || David Dellenbaugh || Chris Klotz || Example || Example || Example |
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| 1986 || Example || Greg Fisher || Chris Klotz || Example || Example |
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| 1987 || Greg Fisher || David Dellenbaugh || Example || Example || Brent Barbehenn |
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| 1988 || Greg Fisher || Example || Example || Example || Example |
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| 1989 || David Dellenbaugh || Example || Example || Brent Barbehenn || Example |
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| 1990 || Chris Klotz || Example || Example || Example || Example |
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| 1991 || David Dellenbaugh || Ched Proctor || Example || Example || Example |
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| 1992 || David Dellenbaugh || Alex Smigelski || Example || Example || Example |
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| 1993 || Bill Draheim || Bill Wilson || Example || Example || Alex Smigelski |
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| 1994 || David Dellenbaugh || Ched Proctor || Marty Seelig || Sjoerd-Jan Vanderhorst || Chirs Klotz |
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| 1995 || Jack Franco || Bryce Dryden || Bill Draheim || John Lovett || Chirs Klotz |
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| 1996 || David Dellenbaugh || Mike Ingham || Bryce Dryden || Ched Proctor || Brad Thompson |
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| 1997 || Mike Ingham || Ched Proctor || George Szabo || Example || Chris Klotz |
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| 1998 || Bryce Dryden || Mike Ingham || Joe Burcar || Ched Proctor || Eric Gesner |
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| 1999 || Bryce Dryden || Brad Thomson || Jack Finefrock || Terry Lettenmaier || Eric Gesner |
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| 2000 || Mike Ingham || Doug Kaukeinen || Bruce King || Eric Gesner || Bryce Dryden |
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| 2001 || Bruce King || Mike Ingham || Chris Murphy || Jack Finefrock || Erik Goethert |
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| 2002 || Mike Ingham || Bruce King || Blair Dryden || Eric Gesner || Terry Lettenmaier |
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| 2003 || Brent Barbehenn || Mike Ingham || Eric Gesner || Blair Dryden || Craig Koschalk |
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| 2004 || Eric Gesner || Bruce King || Skip Dieball || Mike Ingham || Craig Koschalk |
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| 2005 || Mike Ingham || Bruce King || D. Dellenbaugh || C. Koschalk || Paul Abdullah |
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| 2006 || Greg Fisher || Skip Dieball || Paul Abdullah || Kyle Finefrock || Chris Murphy |
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| 2007 || Mike Ingham || Scott Griffin || Terry Lettenmaier || Greg Fisher || Lloyd Kitchin |
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| 2008 || Greg Fisher || Mike Ingham || Paul Abdullah || Brad Thompson || Example |
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| 2009 || Dave Dellenbaugh || Brain Kitchen || Mike Ingham || Brent Barbehenn || Charles Kreitler |
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| 2010 || Mike Ingham || Greg Griffin || Greg Fisher || Brent Barbehenn || Greg Griffin |
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| 2011 || Skip Dieball || Mike Ingham || Allan Terhune || Chris Murphy || Paul Abdullah |
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| 2012 || Allan Terhune || Skip Dieball || Mike Ingham || David Tillson || Brent Barbehenn |
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| 2013 || Allan Terhune || Skip Dieball || Steve White || Chris Murphy || Sam Ingham |
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| 2014 || Lloyd Kitchin || John Baker || Skip Dieball || Mike Ingham || Scott Griffin |
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| 2015 || Mike Ingham || Paul Abdullah || Greg Griffin || Greg Griffin || John Baker |
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| 2016 || Mike Ingham || Paul Abdullah || Kyle Finefrock || John Baker || Mike Gillum |
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| 2017 || Mike Ingham || Paul Abdullah || Brent Barbehenn || Ben France || Samuel Ingham |
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| 2018 || Brad Russell || Dave Dellenbaugh || Dan Hesse || Paul Abdullah || Matt Fisher |
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| 2019 || Greg Griffin || Scott Meyer || Paul Abdullah || Jesse Shedden || Doug Kaukeinen |
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==External links== |
==External links== |
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*{{Commons category-inline|Thistle-class sailing dinghy}} |
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*[http://www.thistleclass.com/ Thistle Class Association web site] |
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*[http://www.lycracing.com/ LYC Racing builds Thistle Sailboats] |
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGzjmT92K7Y Thistle Sailing in Jacksonville video on Youtube] |
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{{Douglass & McLeod}} |
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Development | |
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Designer | Sandy Douglass |
Location | United States |
Year | 1945 |
No. built | 4,000 |
Builder(s) | Douglass & McLeod Clark Boat Company W. D. Schock Corp Northwest One Design Great Midwest Yacht Company |
Boat | |
Displacement | 515 lb (234 kg) |
Draft | 4.50 ft (1.37 m) with the centreboard down |
Hull | |
Type | Monohull |
Construction | Fiberglass |
LOA | 17.00 ft (5.18 m) |
LWL | 17.00 ft (5.18 m) |
Beam | 6.00 ft (1.83 m) |
Hull appendages | |
Keel/board type | centreboard |
Rudder(s) | transom-mounted rudder |
Rig | |
Rig type | Bermuda rig |
Sails | |
Sailplan | Fractional rigged sloop Masthead sloop |
Mainsail area | 136 sq ft (12.6 m2) |
Jib/genoa area | 55 sq ft (5.1 m2) |
Spinnaker area | 220 sq ft (20 m2) |
Total sail area | 191 sq ft (17.7 m2) |
Racing | |
D-PN | 83.0 |
The Thistle is an American planing sailing dinghy that was designed by Sandy Douglass as a one-design racer and first built in 1945.[1][2][3]
Production
[edit]The design was originally built by Douglass & McLeod in the United States, but the company went out of business in 1971. Since then production has passed to several American builders, including the Clark Boat Company, W. D. Schock Corp, Northwest One Design and the current builder since 1975, Great Midwest Yacht Company. More than 4,000 boats of this design have been completed.[1][3][4][5][6][7]
W. D. Schock Corp records indicate that they built 250 boats between 1959 and 1975.[8]
Design
[edit]The Thistle is a recreational sailboat, with the earlier production models made from molded plywood and the more recent models built predominantly of fiberglass, with wood structural members and trim. The seats are a fiberglass-sandwich construction, and provide built-in flotation. It has a fractional sloop rig with aluminum spars and three spreader bars. The hull has no decks, a plumb stem and transom, a transom-hung rudder controlled by a tiller and a retractable, drum-mounted centerboard. It displaces 515 lb (234 kg).[1][3]
The boat has a draft of 4.50 ft (1.37 m) with the centerboard extended and 6 in (15 cm) with it retracted, allowing beaching or ground transportation on a trailer.[1]
For sailing the design is equipped with symmetrical spinnaker of 220 sq ft (20 m2) and built-in flotation.[3]
The design has a Portsmouth Yardstick racing average handicap of 83.0 and is normally raced with a crew of three sailors, although it has a capacity of six people.[3]
Operational history
[edit]By 1994 the design was being raced in more than 150 fleets.[3]
In a 1994 review Richard Sherwood wrote, "the Thistle was influenced by English dinghy design and is similar to the International 14, another racing dinghy with a plumb bow and flat run. Originally, boats were of molded wood. Racing crew is three, but the Thistle will carry six. She will fit into a garage. The Thistle has a lot of sail and a lot of speed. Class rules are strict. Gear that may be technically legal but provides an advantage is not allowed ... The Thistle is the boat used as the primary yardstick for Portsmouth Numbers."[3]
Racing
[edit]See also
[edit]Similar sailboats
References
[edit]- ^ a b c d McArthur, Bruce (2020). "Thistle sailboat". sailboatdata.com. Archived from the original on 2 October 2020. Retrieved 2 October 2020.
- ^ McArthur, Bruce (2020). "Gordon K. (Sandy) Douglass 1904 - 1992". sailboatdata.com. Archived from the original on 3 October 2020. Retrieved 2 October 2020.
- ^ a b c d e f g Sherwood, Richard M.: A Field Guide to Sailboats of North America, Second Edition, pages 84-85. Houghton Mifflin Company, 1994. ISBN 0-395-65239-1
- ^ McArthur, Bruce (2020). "Douglass & McLeod". sailboatdata.com. Archived from the original on 2 October 2020. Retrieved 2 October 2020.
- ^ McArthur, Bruce (2020). "Clark Boat Company". sailboatdata.com. Archived from the original on 2 October 2020. Retrieved 2 October 2020.
- ^ McArthur, Bruce (2020). "Schock W.D." sailboatdata.com. Archived from the original on 18 July 2020. Retrieved 2 October 2020.
- ^ Great Midwest Yacht Company. "Great Midwest Yacht Designs". nowwebsites.net. Archived from the original on 2 October 2020. Retrieved 2 October 2020.
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External links
[edit]- Media related to Thistle-class sailing dinghy at Wikimedia Commons