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:I removed it because there is only some article with a name, but not a single document was provided. Going by this article, the name "Republic of Turkmenistan" existed after independence in 1991 and according to the UN, starting from 1992 it was already just Turkmenistan. If you think we should go into this much details about it, I will correct that part accordingly. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 19:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
:I removed it because there is only some article with a name, but not a single document was provided. Going by this article, the name "Republic of Turkmenistan" existed after independence in 1991 and according to the UN, starting from 1992 it was already just Turkmenistan. If you think we should go into this much details about it, I will correct that part accordingly. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 19:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
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::{{tq|I removed it because there is only some article with a name, but not a single document was provided.}} If you're questioning the reliability of the source itself, you can bring it up at [[WP:RS/N]]. The published source I cited, along with several others given on the talk page, are enough to verify that the name ''Republic of Turkmenistan'' was used initially. —[[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] ([[User talk:Sangdeboeuf|talk]]) 19:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
::{{tq|I removed it because there is only some article with a name, but not a single document was provided.}} If you're questioning the reliability of the source itself, you can bring it up at [[WP:RS/N]]. The published source I cited, along with several others given on the talk page, are enough to verify that the name ''Republic of Turkmenistan'' was used initially. —[[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] ([[User talk:Sangdeboeuf|talk]]) 19:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
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::: {{ping|Sangdeboeuf}} I've managed to find the actual declaration. Except it wasn't a declaration, like in other post-soviet countries, it was a constitutional law. This law is actually available offline only (though it doesn't matter, [[WP:OFFLINE]]), but there is a text on the wiki: https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Конституционный_закон_Туркменистана_о_независимости_и_основах_государственного_устройства_Туркменистана_от_27.10.1991 It establishes that country changes its name from the Soviet one to just "Turkmenistan". Thus your "source" is incorrect and should be deleted, replacing with actual law (published in "Ведомости Меджлиса Туркменистана, 1991 г.", № 15, page 152). [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 21:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
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::: {{ping|Sangdeboeuf}} So be it, but how should I correct it? Just stating that the name ''Republic of Turkmenistan'' was used from 1991 till 1992 is enough? [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 21:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:::: {{ping|Sangdeboeuf}} I've provided you the link so you would be able to read the text, not for the usage of this link as a source. The real document is in "Ведомости Меджлиса Туркменистана, 1991 г.", № 15, page 152, as I've mentioned above. Please, refer to [[WP:OFFLINE]] rules if you have any problems with this. Because of my work, I can have an access to the copy of the document, though it isn't available online (at least I wasn't able to find any online version) and I am in no position to publish it myself. I confirm that the text is identical to that in the link above. So please, correct the information in the article, though I am ready to rewrite it myself when possible. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 16:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:::: {{ping|Sangdeboeuf}} Nevermind what I said above, I found the original online. Here is the source: http://www.turkmenlegaldatabase.info/ru And if you have trouble searching, here is the direct link from this page: http://www.turkmenlegaldatabase.info/ru/documents.download/id/22155.html [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 16:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC) By the way, Turkmen Ministry of justice also has it^ http://minjust.gov.tm/mcenter-single-ru/285 albeit with some changes that were made in 2017, but these changes have nothing to do with the article 1 of the law. Nevertheless, you can use any source you like, they are as official as possible. [[User:Faust-RSI|Faust-RSI]] ([[User talk:Faust-RSI#top|talk]]) 16:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC) |
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May 2020
[edit]I was about to block you for edit-warring, nut noticed that you have formally not been warned, and decided to give you one chance to stop. One more revert will get your account blocked.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Now I had to start a topic about you at WP:ANI, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User: Faust-RSI and civility, please respond there if you wish to.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello, I'm Sangdeboeuf. I noticed that you recently made an edit to Turkmenistan in which your edit summary did not appear to describe the change you made. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. In your edit of 19:00, 24 May 2020, you did not simply separate "independence and acceptance to the UN", you removed sourced information about the (former) name of the country, which is the subject of an ongoing discussion, without explaining why. Please stop your disruptive edit-warring. Thank you. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 19:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- I removed it because there is only some article with a name, but not a single document was provided. Going by this article, the name "Republic of Turkmenistan" existed after independence in 1991 and according to the UN, starting from 1992 it was already just Turkmenistan. If you think we should go into this much details about it, I will correct that part accordingly. Faust-RSI (talk) 19:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
I removed it because there is only some article with a name, but not a single document was provided.
If you're questioning the reliability of the source itself, you can bring it up at WP:RS/N. The published source I cited, along with several others given on the talk page, are enough to verify that the name Republic of Turkmenistan was used initially. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 19:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)- @Sangdeboeuf: I've managed to find the actual declaration. Except it wasn't a declaration, like in other post-soviet countries, it was a constitutional law. This law is actually available offline only (though it doesn't matter, WP:OFFLINE), but there is a text on the wiki: https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Конституционный_закон_Туркменистана_о_независимости_и_основах_государственного_устройства_Туркменистана_от_27.10.1991 It establishes that country changes its name from the Soviet one to just "Turkmenistan". Thus your "source" is incorrect and should be deleted, replacing with actual law (published in "Ведомости Меджлиса Туркменистана, 1991 г.", № 15, page 152). Faust-RSI (talk) 21:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Sangdeboeuf: I've provided you the link so you would be able to read the text, not for the usage of this link as a source. The real document is in "Ведомости Меджлиса Туркменистана, 1991 г.", № 15, page 152, as I've mentioned above. Please, refer to WP:OFFLINE rules if you have any problems with this. Because of my work, I can have an access to the copy of the document, though it isn't available online (at least I wasn't able to find any online version) and I am in no position to publish it myself. I confirm that the text is identical to that in the link above. So please, correct the information in the article, though I am ready to rewrite it myself when possible. Faust-RSI (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Sangdeboeuf: Nevermind what I said above, I found the original online. Here is the source: http://www.turkmenlegaldatabase.info/ru And if you have trouble searching, here is the direct link from this page: http://www.turkmenlegaldatabase.info/ru/documents.download/id/22155.html Faust-RSI (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC) By the way, Turkmen Ministry of justice also has it^ http://minjust.gov.tm/mcenter-single-ru/285 albeit with some changes that were made in 2017, but these changes have nothing to do with the article 1 of the law. Nevertheless, you can use any source you like, they are as official as possible. Faust-RSI (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Sangdeboeuf: I've managed to find the actual declaration. Except it wasn't a declaration, like in other post-soviet countries, it was a constitutional law. This law is actually available offline only (though it doesn't matter, WP:OFFLINE), but there is a text on the wiki: https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Конституционный_закон_Туркменистана_о_независимости_и_основах_государственного_устройства_Туркменистана_от_27.10.1991 It establishes that country changes its name from the Soviet one to just "Turkmenistan". Thus your "source" is incorrect and should be deleted, replacing with actual law (published in "Ведомости Меджлиса Туркменистана, 1991 г.", № 15, page 152). Faust-RSI (talk) 21:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
May 2020
[edit]Your recent editing history at Turkmenistan shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
You have made five reverts (undoing another's contribution in whole or in part) in the last 24 hours. Kindly self-revert or expect a report at WP:AN3. Thank you. Sangdeboeuf (talk) 19:38, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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