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i had removed "tramadol" from the list of things that have a less severe withdraw. it is now being shown that due to tramadol also being a SNRI and having a similar withdraw effects as SSRI discontinuation syndrome and often taking up to a month for all symptoms to subside, while on average, opiate withdraw will be done in less than a week. |
i had removed "tramadol" from the list of things that have a less severe withdraw. it is now being shown that due to tramadol also being a SNRI and having a similar withdraw effects as SSRI discontinuation syndrome and often taking up to a month for all symptoms to subside, while on average, opiate withdraw will be done in less than a week. |
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There should be a section called: "In popular culture", where there should be stated that Doctor House, the character of the series of the same name played by Hugh Laurie, is addicted to Vicodine. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/176.83.70.198|176.83.70.198]] ([[User talk:176.83.70.198#top|talk]]) 21:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: Do it! --[[Special:Contributions/91.201.74.58|91.201.74.58]] ([[User talk:91.201.74.58|talk]]) 14:58, 26 February 2018 (UTC) |
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::No, not here. Vicodin is [[hydrocodone/paracetamol]] and it's already mentioned there. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 15:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC) |
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The Vicodin brand has been discontinued by Abbott and Abbvie. How should we treat this in the article? Mostly remove mention of it? [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 ]]</small></sup> 23:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC) |
The Vicodin brand has been discontinued by Abbott and Abbvie. How should we treat this in the article? Mostly remove mention of it? [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 ]]</small></sup> 23:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC) |
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:Thanks! I was looking for information about the makers of Vicodin and the brand. |
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:This is a weird place to find this information, It seems that the [[Category:Redirects_from_trade_names_of_drugs|WP policy to fixate on the generic names]] while ignoring the trade names accomplishes the objective of avoiding promotion (partially) at the cost of erasure regarding the economic aspects of the drug and its promotion, which turns out to be a huge factor in their rise to popularity. History sections on current articles seem like the appropriate place to add this information to. |
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:Regarding the actual question. Removing something because it has been discontinued is a very bad idea, it should be moved to the history section. [[User:TZubiri|TZubiri]] ([[User talk:TZubiri|talk]]) 02:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC) |
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I've removed the prominent lede sentence and info box references to those brand names, which the average layman has never heard of, and replaced them with the well known brands Norco and Vicodin. all sources remained intact (there was no need to replace them). '''Wikipedia is not a free advertising platform for pharmaceutical companies.''' [[User:Firejuggler86|Firejuggler86]] ([[User talk:Firejuggler86|talk]]) 23:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC) |
I've removed the prominent lede sentence and info box references to those brand names, which the average layman has never heard of, and replaced them with the well known brands Norco and Vicodin. all sources remained intact (there was no need to replace them). '''Wikipedia is not a free advertising platform for pharmaceutical companies.''' [[User:Firejuggler86|Firejuggler86]] ([[User talk:Firejuggler86|talk]]) 23:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC) |
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Follow-up: Upon further review of article history, the edits that introduced these changes appear to have been in good faith and without direct conflict of interest; ''however'', I still andfeel the prominence of these obscure brands of patented-formulations of an old and common drug to be undue, and - with ALL DUE RESPECT to medical professionals and the enormous breadth of much appreciated expert knowledge that such editors bring to the encyclopedia - they are exposed to near constant pharmaceutical promoting by drug companies' sales reps (who are not medical professionals, so incedentally the perception of what are the common brands for medications expectedly becomes skewed by the POV pushed by the drug companies sales reps. [[User:Firejuggler86|Firejuggler86]] ([[User talk:Firejuggler86|talk]]) 00:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{Re|Firejuggler86}} Those brand names are combinations. The infobox for this article should list the brand names for the single medication. The prominence doesn't seem relevant. The AHFS Monograph lists Hysingla ER, Zohydro ER. --[[User:Whywhenwhohow|Whywhenwhohow]] ([[User talk:Whywhenwhohow|talk]]) 04:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC) |
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: There is a separate article for the combination [[Hydrocodone/paracetamol]] --[[User:Whywhenwhohow|Whywhenwhohow]] ([[User talk:Whywhenwhohow|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC) |
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[edit]The last paragraph of the History section should be deleted. It's a bunch of supposed etymologies for various drugs, most of them not relevent in this article. It's poorly written, and there are no references cited. Not relevent, not encyclopedia, and not verified. It goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk • contribs) February 13, 2013
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[edit]i had removed "tramadol" from the list of things that have a less severe withdraw. it is now being shown that due to tramadol also being a SNRI and having a similar withdraw effects as SSRI discontinuation syndrome and often taking up to a month for all symptoms to subside, while on average, opiate withdraw will be done in less than a week.
Vicodin
[edit]The Vicodin brand has been discontinued by Abbott and Abbvie. How should we treat this in the article? Mostly remove mention of it? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 23:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was looking for information about the makers of Vicodin and the brand.
- This is a weird place to find this information, It seems that the while ignoring the trade names accomplishes the objective of avoiding promotion (partially) at the cost of erasure regarding the economic aspects of the drug and its promotion, which turns out to be a huge factor in their rise to popularity. History sections on current articles seem like the appropriate place to add this information to.
- Regarding the actual question. Removing something because it has been discontinued is a very bad idea, it should be moved to the history section. TZubiri (talk) 02:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Article was being used to advertise the latest patented-formulation brand names (Clarification: NOT necessarily intentionally on the editor's part)
[edit]I've removed the prominent lede sentence and info box references to those brand names, which the average layman has never heard of, and replaced them with the well known brands Norco and Vicodin. all sources remained intact (there was no need to replace them). Wikipedia is not a free advertising platform for pharmaceutical companies. Firejuggler86 (talk) 23:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Follow-up: Upon further review of article history, the edits that introduced these changes appear to have been in good faith and without direct conflict of interest; however, I still andfeel the prominence of these obscure brands of patented-formulations of an old and common drug to be undue, and - with ALL DUE RESPECT to medical professionals and the enormous breadth of much appreciated expert knowledge that such editors bring to the encyclopedia - they are exposed to near constant pharmaceutical promoting by drug companies' sales reps (who are not medical professionals, so incedentally the perception of what are the common brands for medications expectedly becomes skewed by the POV pushed by the drug companies sales reps. Firejuggler86 (talk) 00:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Firejuggler86: Those brand names are combinations. The infobox for this article should list the brand names for the single medication. The prominence doesn't seem relevant. The AHFS Monograph lists Hysingla ER, Zohydro ER. --Whywhenwhohow (talk) 04:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- There is a separate article for the combination Hydrocodone/paracetamol --Whywhenwhohow (talk) 04:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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