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== Sources, and accuracy of information. == |
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==More POV== |
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I'd like to ask two questions related to this article. I just updated the city management, but there is no source for the current city clerk except my own knowledge since it is not listed on any web page. Would we be allowed to use publicly accessible council meeting minutes or agendas? Both of these would be able to verify that Molly Perry is the current city clerk. |
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The introduction sounds like it was written by the mayor or something. "Home to the 10th best university," etc. etc. I'm going to clean this up a bit and if I go overboard feel free to change some of it back. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:70.38.5.59|70.38.5.59]] ([[User talk:70.38.5.59|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.38.5.59|contribs]]) 19:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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I'd also like to talk about the accuracy of information on this page with regards to term numbers. Irvine imposed term limits in 2014, but they are '''not retroactive'''. Because of this qualification I believe that there is inaccuracy or even disinformation in the terms box. For example, it lists this as Christina Shea's first term as mayor, but it is not. She served two terms before the term limits were imposed, and even the source cited by this box (https://ballotpedia.org/Christina_Shea) notes that "Shea previously served as mayor of Irvine from 1996 to 2000." Which would actually make this her realistic third term, but first post-term limits. How do we want to handle this? |
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==History== |
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Irvine was largely controlled by the Irvine family until the death of Myford Irvine in 1959. Irvine's death was rules a suicide although he was shot repeatedly. Irvine had been involved with a development at the property of what became Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas and was known to have Mafia ties, including Mickey Cohen. He begged his estate for millions in cash on short notice shortly before his death. The land was soon bought by Kirk Kerkorian, who made a fotune leasing it to the casino. http://time-proxy.yaga.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,837338,00.html <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:71.107.248.127|71.107.248.127]] ([[User talk:71.107.248.127|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/71.107.248.127|contribs]]) 09:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2022 == |
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=="Notable natives and residents" is way too big== |
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For a small city this is mildly interesting but for a large city it's not useful. According to guidelines this should be broken in a seperate article ([[WP:USCITY#Notable natives and residents]]). Also, although some have references do they say they currently live within the city boundaries. --[[User:MarsRover|MarsRover]] ([[User talk:MarsRover|talk]]) 03:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Wild Rivers Waterpark is one of the top employers in Irvine and should be added to the list, they hire over 1200 employees. [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:E00:52D0:C03B:3019:A12F:A1E6|2600:8802:E00:52D0:C03B:3019:A12F:A1E6]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:E00:52D0:C03B:3019:A12F:A1E6|talk]]) 04:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC) |
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:Because of the large number of notable people, I agree that there should be a separate article (like the one on Orange County people). While they do not have to currently live in Irvine, they should either be a native or a resident, as the section name notes. The references should state that they have a connection to Irvine, but I have not checked them. Maybe those should be reviewed first. Thanks, [[User:Alanraywiki|Alanraywiki]] ([[User talk:Alanraywiki|talk]]) 03:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> 💜 <span style="border:solid 1px; border-radius:7px;background:#226;border-color:#338">[[User:Melecie|<span style="color:#edf"> '''m'''elecie </span>]]</span> [[User talk:Melecie|<span style="color=#edf">'''t'''alk</span>]] - 04:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC) |
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::I checked a few of the entries. Most have some link to Irvine but it’s too broad. Maybe the ex-mayor is notable but it just seems redundant having him there. A baseball player that at some point went to UCI for a few years. A guitarist for 80s hair band that grow-up in Irvine but wasn't born there. Even if someone wants to gather all the people that had something to do with Irvine, a "category" would be better. --[[User:MarsRover|MarsRover]] ([[User talk:MarsRover|talk]]) 07:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Hello there, I thought I'd chime in since I have spent the last few months editing and verifying the information in the "Notable natives and residents" section. First off I would like to support a page of this subject, however I am open to it either remaining on the [[Irvine, California]] page or becoming a separate page on its own. In regards to the individual's connection to Irvine, I have made sure that each person either grew up in Irvine or currently resides in the town. Those that did not meet the aforementioned qualifiers were given a "citation needed" tag besides their name. In my opinion I feel that those two qualifers are accepable to place an individual in the Irvine "Notable natives and residents". I am open to discussion with anyone would like to further debate aspects this section. Thanks! --[[User:Djrun|Djrun]] ([[User talk:Djrun|talk]]) 18:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2022 == |
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Lee Harvey Oswald stationed at El Toro Marine Base (which isn't even in the city of Irvine); wow that's a stretch! [[User:Nicvalbuena|Nicvalbuena]] ([[User talk:Nicvalbuena|talk]]) 21:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[[User:Inthetechworld|Inthetechworld]] ([[User talk:Inthetechworld|talk]]) 03:36, 12 August 2022 (UTC) |
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==Larry Ford== |
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The current chief of police is "Michael Kent" |
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The following historical event in Irvine is sourced from a [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources|reliable, third-party, published source]] (the [[New York Times]] and [[Los Angeles Times]]), provides a [[Wikipedia:Relevance_of_content#Use_summary_style|short summary]] of the event with a link to the main article, and is a [[Wikipedia:Relevance_of_content#Content|factor that has influenced the subject's history]]. |
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<blockquote>In March 2000, [[anthrax]] containers were found buried in the [[Woodbridge, Irvine, California|Woodbridge]], [[Irvine, California|Irvine]] yard of Dr. [[Larry C. Ford]], a biomedical researcher who specialized in infectious diseases. [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0DEED8173EF930A35752C1A9649C8B63] This prompted city officials close an elementary school and evacuate 48 Woodbridge families (about 250 residents) in the immediate area while they performed a thorough search of Ford's home. [http://educate-yourself.org/ct/irvinecanistersandbioweapons10mar00.shtml] Ford committed suicide after his business partner, James Patrick Riley, chief of Biofem, Inc. was shot and wounded near the [[Irvine Spectrum]] by a masked gunman.</blockquote> |
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So why do people keep removing it? -[[Special:Contributions/75.50.111.95|75.50.111.95]] ([[User talk:75.50.111.95|talk]]) 22:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2022 == |
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:The two other editors along with I have removed it because it puts [[WP:UNDUE|undue weight]] on, as [[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] put it in his edit summary, a ''very minor events that did not shape the history of Irvine the way the others in this section did''. The event, while notable enough for a standalone article, is not notable enough for inclusion within the city of Irvine article. The event did not result in any long-term or notable change to the city. -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] ([[User talk:Gogo Dodo|talk]]) 04:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC) |
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==Geography== |
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Linking Cox Automotive [[User:LikoHus|LikoHus]] ([[User talk:LikoHus|talk]]) 21:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC) |
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== Should we identify "Irvinite" as the City's "official" demonym? == |
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I changed the location of Santa Ana from Northeast to Northwest and changed Laguna Woods to South east from South. I hope the move didn't shake anybody up. Would anybody consider inserting the Irvine villages map pdf? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MrEdxoxo|MrEdxoxo]] ([[User talk:MrEdxoxo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrEdxoxo|contribs]]) 02:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I recently added "Irvinite" to the demonym section in this article's infobox alongside "Irvinian." However, all official city documents that use a demonym for Irvine residents (which is slightly rare, as most people just use the term "Irvine resident" during city council discussions) that I have seen have used the term "Irvinite." The best example I can give is how, in the message written by City Manager Oliver Chi at the beginning of every issue of the City's official magazine, Inside Irvine, there is a banner in big text saying "Hello, Irvinites!" (here is a [https://online.flippingbook.com/view/988592596/4/ link] to the current issue for proof). Furthermore, it has been used in [https://irvine.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=68&event_id=2429&meta_id=154075 this memo] written by current Irvine Councilmember [[Kathleen Treseder]], hinting at "Irvinite" being the preferred demonym at least in the official capacity of the City Manager and a City Council member. Is there anything we should do in the infobox to indicate this? [[User:JaySVMS|JaySVMS]] ([[User talk:JaySVMS|talk]]) 09:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==Points of Interest== |
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:I think these are decent starts, but more sources would help. This also needs to be added and sourced within the article before adding to the infobox. Good work! [[User:Glman|glman]] ([[User talk:Glman|talk]]) 13:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
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I added Blizzard Entertainment to points of Interest mostly because It is stationed here and is a nearly world reknowned company, If you find it isnt fit to be in the Points of Interest area you may feel free to remove it. -- [[User:Dobat]] 8 December 2009 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 16:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Blizzard Entertainment is already listed in the Business section, so I removed it from Points of interest. Thanks, [[User:Alanraywiki|Alanraywiki]] ([[User talk:Alanraywiki|talk]]) 16:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Ah forgive me then I didn't notice that there. Thank you for clearing it up. [[User:Dobat]] 8 December 2009 |
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==Freight Rail== |
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I added a small section on freight rail in the article due to its importance and availability of information. Before removing it, please reply to this so it can be discussed. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tex KT|Tex KT]] ([[User talk:Tex KT|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tex KT|contribs]]) 22:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Downtown Irvine== |
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The picture posted is not Downtown Irvine, but rather the Irvine Business Complex, half ot this "Business Complex" is in Newport Beach. The "real" downtown Irvine lies off the I-5 and 133 fwy's. It is factually incorrect to claim that this image is representative of "Downtown Irvine." <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:208.127.143.44|208.127.143.44]] ([[User talk:208.127.143.44|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/208.127.143.44|contribs]]) 01:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:There is no "downtown Irvine". The city is a collection of planned localities, not an organic or historic center which radiates outward into suburbs. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 02:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC) |
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== Structure == |
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Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per [[List of United States cities by population]]) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline]]. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? [[User:Onel5969|Onel5969]] ([[User talk:Onel5969|talk]]) 16:24, 12 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:Sounds unproblematic to me. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 16:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC) |
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Hey. I was thinking that you can discuss the different bike trails and places to hike in Irvine. Such as the Shady Canyon Trail or the Quail Hill Trail. I also feel like some of the information may need to be a little updated. Thanks! [[User:Alichoroomi]][[User talk:Alichoroomi|Alichoroomi]] ([[User talk:Alichoroomi|talk]]) 01:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC) |
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I'd like to ask two questions related to this article. I just updated the city management, but there is no source for the current city clerk except my own knowledge since it is not listed on any web page. Would we be allowed to use publicly accessible council meeting minutes or agendas? Both of these would be able to verify that Molly Perry is the current city clerk. |
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I'd also like to talk about the accuracy of information on this page with regards to term numbers. Irvine imposed term limits in 2014, but they are '''not retroactive'''. Because of this qualification I believe that there is inaccuracy or even disinformation in the terms box. For example, it lists this as Christina Shea's first term as mayor, but it is not. She served two terms before the term limits were imposed, and even the source cited by this box (https://ballotpedia.org/Christina_Shea) notes that "Shea previously served as mayor of Irvine from 1996 to 2000." Which would actually make this her realistic third term, but first post-term limits. How do we want to handle this? |
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Sources, and accuracy of information.
[edit]I'd like to ask two questions related to this article. I just updated the city management, but there is no source for the current city clerk except my own knowledge since it is not listed on any web page. Would we be allowed to use publicly accessible council meeting minutes or agendas? Both of these would be able to verify that Molly Perry is the current city clerk.
I'd also like to talk about the accuracy of information on this page with regards to term numbers. Irvine imposed term limits in 2014, but they are not retroactive. Because of this qualification I believe that there is inaccuracy or even disinformation in the terms box. For example, it lists this as Christina Shea's first term as mayor, but it is not. She served two terms before the term limits were imposed, and even the source cited by this box (https://ballotpedia.org/Christina_Shea) notes that "Shea previously served as mayor of Irvine from 1996 to 2000." Which would actually make this her realistic third term, but first post-term limits. How do we want to handle this?
Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2022
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Wild Rivers Waterpark is one of the top employers in Irvine and should be added to the list, they hire over 1200 employees. 2600:8802:E00:52D0:C03B:3019:A12F:A1E6 (talk) 04:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 💜 melecie talk - 04:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2022
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Inthetechworld (talk) 03:36, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
The current chief of police is "Michael Kent"
- Done —Sirdog (talk) 05:03, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
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Linking Cox Automotive LikoHus (talk) 21:45, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Should we identify "Irvinite" as the City's "official" demonym?
[edit]I recently added "Irvinite" to the demonym section in this article's infobox alongside "Irvinian." However, all official city documents that use a demonym for Irvine residents (which is slightly rare, as most people just use the term "Irvine resident" during city council discussions) that I have seen have used the term "Irvinite." The best example I can give is how, in the message written by City Manager Oliver Chi at the beginning of every issue of the City's official magazine, Inside Irvine, there is a banner in big text saying "Hello, Irvinites!" (here is a link to the current issue for proof). Furthermore, it has been used in this memo written by current Irvine Councilmember Kathleen Treseder, hinting at "Irvinite" being the preferred demonym at least in the official capacity of the City Manager and a City Council member. Is there anything we should do in the infobox to indicate this? JaySVMS (talk) 09:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think these are decent starts, but more sources would help. This also needs to be added and sourced within the article before adding to the infobox. Good work! glman (talk) 13:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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