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== Barry Seal == |
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Barry seal was not a CIA agent. His page even explicitly "debunks" that he was in the CIA. [[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:8CF0:6680:D944:DFA0:EC07:FA2A|2603:7000:8CF0:6680:D944:DFA0:EC07:FA2A]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:8CF0:6680:D944:DFA0:EC07:FA2A|talk]]) 20:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC) |
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{{hat|Trolling. [[User:ValarianB|ValarianB]] ([[User talk:ValarianB|talk]]) 18:13, 20 August 2020 (UTC)}} |
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The Bill Clinton page is locked, which is understandable, however only biased contributors are allowed to edit. In mid August, pictures were released of Bill Clinton on a flight with Jeffrey Epstein, and one in particular shows Clinton receiving a massage from a 22 year old girl. Also, after stringent denials of ever having gone on a flight on Epstein's plane, flight logs have shown his name in the logs 26 times. Finally, witnesses have claimed to have seen Bill Clinton on Epstein's private island at least once. |
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? [[User:Nohorizonss|Nohorizonss]] ([[User talk:Nohorizonss|talk]]) 14:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Are these things ever going to be added to this page? Would they be added to Donald Trump's page if he had the same pictures, behavior or accusations released about him? Things like this are precisely why Wikipedia is not allowed to be used as a citation source for collegiate level, or even high school papers. Their credibility is abysmal due to overwhelming bias. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2001:16A2:8E4D:8900:6048:8036:B023:73A|2001:16A2:8E4D:8900:6048:8036:B023:73A]] ([[User talk:2001:16A2:8E4D:8900:6048:8036:B023:73A#top|talk]]) 11:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Very biased article, plainly authored by political operatives. == |
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There is no mention of major events like the Waco siege... or anything else that might tarnish an election brochure. This is a biography that reads like a North Korean biography of Kim Jong Un <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:E caroline|E caroline]] ([[User talk:E caroline#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/E caroline|contribs]]) 17:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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In the section titled "2016 presidential election and after", in the 4th paragraph, there is a sentence that contains the statement "both Bill and Hillary endorsed her and appraised Biden for his years in public service". The word "appraised" should be changed to "praised" [[User:Jlunbeck|Jlunbeck]] ([[User talk:Jlunbeck|talk]]) 21:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC) |
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: Be [[WP:BOLD]] and make or propose changes. The article is here for you to edit. —[[User talk:Eyer|<span style="color:hotpink;"><b>Eyer</b></span>]] <small>(If you [[H:TP#Replying to an existing thread|reply]], add <code><small>{{reply to|Eyer}}</small></code> to your message to [[WP:ECHO|let me know]].)</small> 17:56, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
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{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:PianoDan|PianoDan]] ([[User talk:PianoDan|talk]]) 18:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:This is a biography of Bill Clinton the man, it is not an article that has the room to cover every facet of his presidency, that is why we have sub-articles and other places to gather all the information. The [[Waco siege]], for example, is mentioned at [[Timeline of the Bill Clinton presidency (1993)]]. [[User:ValarianB|ValarianB]] ([[User talk:ValarianB|talk]]) 18:11, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
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== Someone needs to re-add the relations with Jeffery Epstein section == |
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==Moscow Peace Conference== |
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I recovered parts of it but it’s slightly scrambled and needs to be fixed. |
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There are several reports that Bill Clinton went to a Moscow Peace Conference in January 1970 then went on a 40-day train trip behind the Iron Curtain and stayed with the founders of the Czech Communist Party. |
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In the early 2000s, Clinton took flights on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet in connection with Clinton Foundation work |3833| According to Epstein's attorney Gerald B Letcount, Epstein was "part of the original group that conceived of the Clinton Gional Initiative*|3e5) In 2002, a spokesperson for Clintan praised Epstein as 'a committed philanthropist" with "insights and generosity"* While Clinton was president Epstein visited the White House at least 17 times. P/Ja) Years later, Epstein was convicted on sex trafficking charges. Clinton's office refused a stutement in 2019 saying. |
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If true it was likely part of his post graduate study, there is no record of his having been active on their behalf. However, this information should be verified and properly sourced, so as to give a complete picture. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:9486:636D:EEEC:6296|2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:9486:636D:EEEC:6296]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:9486:636D:EEEC:6296|talk]]) 22:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC) |
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*President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York. In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took four trips on Jeftrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Cinton Foundation. Staff, supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on evory leg of every trip. […] Has not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade. |
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[[Special:Contributions/98.117.183.124|98.117.183.124]] ([[User talk:98.117.183.124|talk]]) 02:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:Yes this needs to be re added. Not sure why it was removed as its all cited [[Special:Contributions/86.147.54.20|86.147.54.20]] ([[User talk:86.147.54.20|talk]]) 22:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:If I recall correctly, that there was anything nefarious about Clinton's trip was a middling conspiracy theory pushed largely by [[Bob Dornan]]. Young men in the 70s disillusioned with America's war stance may indeed speak to communists abroad. It isn't, and wasn't, shocking or noteworthy. [[User:ValarianB|ValarianB]] ([[User talk:ValarianB|talk]]) 13:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC) |
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Should it be (briefly) mentioned in the last paragraph of the lead that he campaigned for both of Hillary's presidential campaigns? That seems like a major and notable enough part of his post-presidency to be mentioned I think. [[User:Basil the Bat Lord|Basil the Bat Lord]] ([[User talk:Basil the Bat Lord|talk]]) 12:33, 13 November 2020 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/2804:1b3:9603:1cd2:4008:b069:e174:4a73|2804:1b3:9603:1cd2:4008:b069:e174:4a73]] ([[User talk:2804:1b3:9603:1cd2:4008:b069:e174:4a73|talk]]) 19:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Portal at the bottom links == |
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I'm not sure if this is the page where I should put this, but in the Bill Clinton portal at the bottom of pages about him, in the family section-- the link for Charlotte Mesvinsky, his granddaughter, goes straight to Chelsea Clinton. I don't see why the granddaughter needs her own wikipedia page, but shouldn't the link go to the family subheading on Chelsea Clinton's page? That's the only place on the page where the grandchildren are mentioned (the other two are redlinked for some reason though.) |
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[[User:Nibby the Bird|Nibby the Bird]] ([[User talk:Nibby the Bird|talk]]) 02:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC) |
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== Disbarred? == |
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Bill Clintons links with Epstien have been removed. These were all cited links. Is Wiki Censoring?? [[User:Tobyonekanoby|Tobyonekanoby]] ([[User talk:Tobyonekanoby|talk]]) 23:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done''': it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> —[[User talk:Eyer|<span style="color:hotpink;"><b>Eyer</b></span>]] (he/him) <small>If you [[H:TP#Replying to an existing thread|reply]], add <code><small>{{reply to|Eyer}}</small></code> to your message.</small> 23:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Why is Clinton linked to the category of disbarred American Lawyers? It's very publically discussed that he did NOT get disbarred (and the article does not even try to make any mention of it at all), but that he was suspended in Arkansas and retired his license for the Supreme Court before they could decide over disbarring him. To put him into that category seems dishonest/ignorant at best and malicious at worst. Even IF there is reason to call him disbarred, why would he be linked to such a category before the article lays out such a reason? |
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Barry Seal
[edit]Barry seal was not a CIA agent. His page even explicitly "debunks" that he was in the CIA. 2603:7000:8CF0:6680:D944:DFA0:EC07:FA2A (talk) 20:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Should picture be updated
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In the section titled "2016 presidential election and after", in the 4th paragraph, there is a sentence that contains the statement "both Bill and Hillary endorsed her and appraised Biden for his years in public service". The word "appraised" should be changed to "praised" Jlunbeck (talk) 21:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Done PianoDan (talk) 18:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Someone needs to re-add the relations with Jeffery Epstein section
[edit]I recovered parts of it but it’s slightly scrambled and needs to be fixed.
In the early 2000s, Clinton took flights on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet in connection with Clinton Foundation work |3833| According to Epstein's attorney Gerald B Letcount, Epstein was "part of the original group that conceived of the Clinton Gional Initiative*|3e5) In 2002, a spokesperson for Clintan praised Epstein as 'a committed philanthropist" with "insights and generosity"* While Clinton was president Epstein visited the White House at least 17 times. P/Ja) Years later, Epstein was convicted on sex trafficking charges. Clinton's office refused a stutement in 2019 saying.
- President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York. In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took four trips on Jeftrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Cinton Foundation. Staff, supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on evory leg of every trip. […] Has not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade.
98.117.183.124 (talk) 02:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes this needs to be re added. Not sure why it was removed as its all cited 86.147.54.20 (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
In the External Links section, the Bill Clinton template appears first and then in related articles without need!
2804:1b3:9603:1cd2:4008:b069:e174:4a73 (talk) 19:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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Bill Clintons links with Epstien have been removed. These were all cited links. Is Wiki Censoring?? Tobyonekanoby (talk) 23:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add
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