User talk:Ronavni

Good evening! I noticed you made some changes to Bailey Willis. I thought they were very interesting. I made some stylistic and grammar changes to make it read slightly better. Thank you for the contribution!

Thank you RedBeardBandit, I really need this kind of correction in English. Thanks again.

November 2020

Hello Ronavni. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Ronavni. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Ronavni|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Praxidicae (talk) 16:03, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Praxidicae this is a preliminary response to Your message, until I'll read all this carefully and will consult with other editors. I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits - Absolutely not!!! This is my first new article in the English WikipediA, as you can read in my personal User page. Till this last edit, I only added chapters or other additional significant texts to exist articles in the English WikipediA. I mainly edit in the Hebrew WikipediA and only from last April. Maybe I was not aware of several rules here, but to blame me with a so .... charge, makes me incredibly sad. Yes, I know Michel Platnic personaly and his work from a very close sight, and follow his career, but as I already declared I have got nothing for my edit. I'll try to follow the instructions that was written here by you and other, and hope to revive this important article soon. Thanks! Ronavni (talk) 22:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Great, then what is your connection to Platnic? Praxidicae (talk) 22:11, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Praxidicae I am away for a few days and use only my cellular. I'm using now a laptop of a friend to give a speed response and later, as I mentioned above, I'll learn all your comments in aim to clear the fog. In brief, a friend of mine, Moti Dariel who is an artist by himself, met Platnic in Gordon gallery in Tel Aviv and was impressed very much from his art. He told me about this and showed me part of his works. I was impressed too. As Dariel knew that I am active as an editor in the Hebrew WikipediA, he realized that there is no article about him in the Hebrew WikipediA, and he asked me if it possible to write an article in the Hebrew Wikipedia. I agreed with enthusiasm and after I finished, We both thought that it worth also an article in the English Wikipedia. We made together a research with a little help of Platnic himself, and I enjoied every minute during the research and the edit. As I already declared, no compensation was involved during all this and after. It was and is a pure interest in art and writing Wikipedia articles. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 16:09, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Praxidicae In anticipation of your response and mine, I provide some verifiable facts that may make it easier for you to correct your impression: I am a retired scientist (Ph.D in Phisic Geography, from BGU) and formerly Chief Internal Auditor of Ben Gurion University (1997-2018) and subsist comfortably on my and my wife’s pensions. In my 50 years’ career I have never had need or time or inclination to seek additional financial remuneration from other sources, (in general but of course especially in the years in my sensitive position as the CIA of BGU - that's the reason why I taught more than 20 years voluntarily to avoid conflict of interest). I still teach at the university voluntarily without getting any direct or indirect compensation, only satisfaction. I'm going to do a deep revision of the article, taking into account all of your comments. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Michel Platnic

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Ronavni

Thank you for creating Michel Platnic.

User:Vexations, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

please check the Shpilman Prize, I think there's an error.

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Vexations (talk) 17:33, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vexations: thank you for your comment, I will work on this very soon, and for all other coments inside the article. I must say that I hardly accept the comment:"non-primry source needed" because I think that most of the sources under this comment are secondary, but I am going to be advised by others. Thank you again, Ronavni (talk) 22:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Ronavni, what we call a primary versus a secondary source varies a bit, and I sometimes see it conflated with independent source. I try to use it in the sense of WP:SECONDARY: primary sources lack analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis. Vexations (talk) 13:35, 9 January 2021 (UTC)ץ

@Vexations: Yes, you are right. Most of the references that are under the comment "non-primary source needed" are in fact secondaries. They are not a manuscript of the person of the article, but a manuscript of another one, that had heard him, and wrote in his own words a secondary impression or testimony. I analyzed during my research works at the university many historical documents, and I have a close understanding about this matter. Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 15:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Amplification

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I edited your entry by removing all wikilinks except earthquake and I added an anchor to the specific section. Please consider adding the reference to the earthquake article, if it seems appropriate.

Thank you. Leschnei (talk) 11:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

OK Leschnei, now I understood, and made the correct extension - I hope. Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 18:19, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Looks good! I removed the link to Earthquake to fit the 'one blue link' thing above. Leschnei (talk) 21:44, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Leschnei, I usually work at the Hebrew Wikipedia, and there the rules are a little different, so every time that I try to edit in the English Wikipedia, I learn more. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 10:03, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I think that it would be very hard to work on two different Wikipedias - the guidelines vary so much. I have enough trouble just getting it right in one language! Leschnei (talk) 14:46, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Leschnei I appreciate your attitude, Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 14:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)