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Use
Someone might want to add that it is used in Verdi's Requiem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.178.3 (talk • contribs) 11:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Etymology
More than most brass instruments, the cimbasso deserves an etymology section I think... the tortured history of the term is covered in detail in both the Meucci article and Bevan's The Tuba Family tome. I hope to do this in the next day or two. — Jon (talk) 00:40, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Construction section
A TODO to self/others, requires more refs/checking. The construction section (dealing with the modern instrument) can have more details about physical characteristics and measurements, e.g. bore & bell diameters, mouthpiece receivers, etc. A bit about the F vs. the bigger CC and BB♭ instruments, still made. Since they're usually played by tuba players (particularly in the US), there has been some demand for a bigger instrument with a more "conical feel" in tension with Verdi's intended trombone-like cylindrical bore sound. This made some manufacturers cater to both needs, for example Červený manufacture two cimbassi in F: the CVT 576-51C with a 0.598" bore and 10" bell, presumably aimed at a bass trombonist since it's listed in the "Valve trombones" section of their catalogue, and the CFC 652-5I with a tuba-like bore of 0.717" and larger 11" bell with much wider flare, listed with the tubas.[1] More detail about valves; mostly built with rotary valves, Haag no longer make the 5-Hagmann cimbasso (Why? I emailed Fabian, he said that tuba players complained that the valves were too slow); yet Mattis Cederberg loves his one!* Pistons valves are uncommon; that said, British cimbasso maker Mike Johnson uses the piston valve compensation system common in British band tubas to make compensating four-valve models, and "double" models in compensating E♭ (the 4th valve providing the low B♭, and the compensation dispensing with the need for a 5th valve).[2] It might be worthwhile (or at least fun) to mention that LA tubist Jim Self had a euphonium-like compact design of F cimbasso built from a Yamaha F tuba, which was somewhat inevitably christened the "Jimbasso".[3] — Jon (talk) 01:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Brass Instruments (PDF). Kraslice, Czech Republic: V.F. Červený & Synové. 2021. p. 17–18. Retrieved 15 August 2022.
- ^ "MJC Cimbassi". Mike Johnson Custom Instruments. Retrieved 15 August 2022.
- ^ "Jim Self's Instruments". Basset Hound Music. 2017. Retrieved 15 August 2022.