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*'''Oppose''' the replacement of ''Cabinet'' with ''government'' but '''support''' the numbering part of the proposal. All these articles are specifically about the cabinets <u>as that term is used in English</u>, one aspect of government <u>as that term is used in English</u>. [[Government of Italy|Government]] is a broader topic ''in English''. What the correct term is in Italian is irrelevant as this English WP. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 11:39, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''' the replacement of ''Cabinet'' with ''government'' but '''support''' the numbering part of the proposal. All these articles are specifically about the cabinets <u>as that term is used in English</u>, one aspect of government <u>as that term is used in English</u>. [[Government of Italy|Government]] is a broader topic ''in English''. What the correct term is in Italian is irrelevant as this English WP. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 11:39, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
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**@[[User:DeCausa]]: You are probably unaware of the fact that all governments of Italy since 1945 have already been moved to the "Xxxx format" and that several similar articles include "government", not "cabinet" (see [[:Template:EU governments]]). "Government" is perfectly OK for "cabinet" in English, otherwise we would not have [[:Template:Governments of Ireland]] and several other examples. However, it is true that we should have a naming convention on governments (it is not OK to have some articles on governments named with the "Xxxx government" and others with the "Xxxx cabinet" format). --[[User:Checco|Checco]] ([[User talk:Checco|talk]]) 13:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
**@[[User:DeCausa]]: You are probably unaware of the fact that all governments of Italy since 1945 have already been moved to the "Xxxx format" and that several similar articles include "government", not "cabinet" (see [[:Template:EU governments]]). "Government" is perfectly OK for "cabinet" in English, otherwise we would not have [[:Template:Governments of Ireland]] and several other examples. However, it is true that we should have a naming convention on governments (it is not OK to have some articles on governments named with the "Xxxx government" and others with the "Xxxx cabinet" format). --[[User:Checco|Checco]] ([[User talk:Checco|talk]]) 13:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
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***[[WP:OTHERCONTENT]]. None of that changes my view. In English, "X Government" for a list of cabinet members, which all of these articles are, is misleading and I oppose it. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 14:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC) |
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- Parri Cabinet → Parri government
- Bonomi III Cabinet → Third Bonomi government
- Bonomi II Cabinet → Second Bonomi government
- Badoglio II Cabinet → Second Badoglio government
- Badoglio I Cabinet → First Badoglio government
- Mussolini Cabinet → Mussolini government
- Facta II Cabinet → Second Facta government
- Facta I Cabinet → First Facta government
- Bonomi I Cabinet → First Bonomi government
- Giolitti V Cabinet → Fifth Giolitti government
- Nitti II Cabinet → Second Nitti government
- Nitti I Cabinet → First Nitti government
- Orlando Cabinet → Orlando government
- Boselli Cabinet → Boselli government
- Salandra II Cabinet → Second Salandra government
- Salandra I Cabinet → First Salandra government
- Giolitti IV Cabinet → Fourth Giolitti government
- Luzzatti Cabinet → Luzzatti government
- Sonnino II Cabinet → Second Sonnino government
- Giolitti III Cabinet → Third Giolitti government
- Sonnino I Cabinet → First Sonnino government
- Fortis II Cabinet → Second Fortis government
- Fortis I Cabinet → First Fortis government
- Tittoni Cabinet → Tittoni government
- Giolitti II Cabinet → Second Giolitti government
- Zanardelli Cabinet → Zanardelli government
- Saracco Cabinet → Saracco government
- Pelloux II Cabinet → Second Pelloux government
- Pelloux I Cabinet → First Pelloux government
- Di Rudinì V Cabinet → Fifth di Rudinì government
- Di Rudinì IV Cabinet → Fourth di Rudinì government
- Di Rudinì III Cabinet → Third di Rudinì government
- Di Rudinì II Cabinet → Second di Rudinì government
- Crispi IV Cabinet → Fourth Crispi government
- Crispi III Cabinet → Third Crispi government
- Giolitti I Cabinet → First Giolitti government
- Di Rudinì I Cabinet → First di Rudinì government
- Crispi II Cabinet → Second Crispi government
- Crispi I Cabinet → First Crispi government
- Depretis VIII Cabinet → Eighth Depretis government
- Depretis VII Cabinet → Seventh Depretis government
- Depretis VI Cabinet → Sixth Depretis government
- Depretis V Cabinet → Fifth Depretis government
- Depretis IV Cabinet → Fourth Depretis government
- Cairoli III Cabinet → Third Cairoli government
- Cairoli II Cabinet → Second Cairoli government
- Depretis III Cabinet → Third Depretis government
- Cairoli I Cabinet → First Cairoli government
- Depretis II Cabinet → Second Depretis government
- Depretis I Cabinet → First Depretis government
- Minghetti II Cabinet → Second Minghetti government
- Lanza Cabinet → Lanza government
- Menabrea III Cabinet → Third Menabrea government
- Menabrea II Cabinet → Second Menabrea government
- Menabrea I Cabinet → First Menabrea government
- Rattazzi II Cabinet → Second Rattazzi government
- Ricasoli II Cabinet → Second Ricasoli government
- La Marmora III Cabinet → Third La Marmora government
- La Marmora II Cabinet → Second La Marmora government
- Minghetti I Cabinet → First Minghetti government
- Farini Cabinet → Farini government
- Rattazzi I Cabinet → First Rattazzi government
- Ricasoli I Cabinet → First Ricasoli government
- Cavour IV Cabinet → Fourth Cavour government
– In line with what was already established in Talk:Meloni government, all Italian governments should have the same title format. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:21, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support as the correct term in Italian is governo, not gabinetto and for obvious reasons of consistency, per nominator. --Checco (talk) 07:48, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose the replacement of Cabinet with government but support the numbering part of the proposal. All these articles are specifically about the cabinets as that term is used in English, one aspect of government as that term is used in English. Government is a broader topic in English. What the correct term is in Italian is irrelevant as this English WP. DeCausa (talk) 11:39, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- @User:DeCausa: You are probably unaware of the fact that all governments of Italy since 1945 have already been moved to the "Xxxx format" and that several similar articles include "government", not "cabinet" (see Template:EU governments). "Government" is perfectly OK for "cabinet" in English, otherwise we would not have Template:Governments of Ireland and several other examples. However, it is true that we should have a naming convention on governments (it is not OK to have some articles on governments named with the "Xxxx government" and others with the "Xxxx cabinet" format). --Checco (talk) 13:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERCONTENT. None of that changes my view. In English, "X Government" for a list of cabinet members, which all of these articles are, is misleading and I oppose it. DeCausa (talk) 14:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- @User:DeCausa: You are probably unaware of the fact that all governments of Italy since 1945 have already been moved to the "Xxxx format" and that several similar articles include "government", not "cabinet" (see Template:EU governments). "Government" is perfectly OK for "cabinet" in English, otherwise we would not have Template:Governments of Ireland and several other examples. However, it is true that we should have a naming convention on governments (it is not OK to have some articles on governments named with the "Xxxx government" and others with the "Xxxx cabinet" format). --Checco (talk) 13:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)