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An IP is editwarring to insert a file that seems to be a copyrights violation and has no educational value since it is not representative of Nahua people. It seems likely to be an image from an 19th century publication aiming to show the racial inferiority of indigenous peoples.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 13:15, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- How so? It looks like a bog standard photo from the era to me. I have uploaded some old photos, are they racist? Darkness Shines (talk) 22:09, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- It is not a bog standard photo from the period as anyone who knows the period in Mexico and how Nahua people looked and lived like can tell you. It looks more like they are dressed up for a minstrel show. It is not representative at all of any group of Nahua people now, then or ever. As you may know in the late 1800s there was a general consensus that non-white people were savages. And as you also may know sometimes they tried to prove this by showing them in degrading or absurd situations or costumes, or by exhibiting them as animals. This looks very much like one such situation. I am trying to find out whether this photo has ever been used in any work about the Aztecs or Nahuas and in what context. If the photo had any educational or informational value that could be verified we could include it in the body, but it has nothing to do in the infobox whatsoever.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:00, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Don't get me wrong here mate, obviously the pic is not representative of the people, but a lot of indigenous people wore western/the latest fashions back then. I just do not see it as racist. But again you are correct in that it has zero educational value. I see no reason to have it in the article at all as it is not at all representative of the people. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:11, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- The picture is of Maximo and Bartola two siblings suffering from Microcephaly who were hired by Barnum and Bailey's circus where they were billed as the "Last Aztecs". The picture in formal dress is from a staged "wedding ceremony" where the "Aztecs" were married as allegedly Aztecs customarily had brother sister marriages.[1][2] Quite sickening really, that they were treated in this way. More scikening still that these images are being passed around today as "Aztecs" on right wing extremist websites.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 03:46, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
- It is not a bog standard photo from the period as anyone who knows the period in Mexico and how Nahua people looked and lived like can tell you. It looks more like they are dressed up for a minstrel show. It is not representative at all of any group of Nahua people now, then or ever. As you may know in the late 1800s there was a general consensus that non-white people were savages. And as you also may know sometimes they tried to prove this by showing them in degrading or absurd situations or costumes, or by exhibiting them as animals. This looks very much like one such situation. I am trying to find out whether this photo has ever been used in any work about the Aztecs or Nahuas and in what context. If the photo had any educational or informational value that could be verified we could include it in the body, but it has nothing to do in the infobox whatsoever.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:00, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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